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WM6 for T-Mobile Dash - UI Test Build - BETA

Yes this is the real thing!
I can't believe how long it took for this to get out to the public finally. This is works (so far for over 1 week) great on my T-Mobile Dash. I didn't need to CID unlock it or anything (though i believe I tried application unlock app and that didn't seem to have worked). This is T-Mobile branded so if you have a different carrier there MAY be some modification required for proper function...though I wouldn't really know since I use T-Mobile -
This thing has it all working so far except the T-Zones in WINWAP. It tells you this version of WinWAP is not supported by tmo..if you are testing you are using an unregistered version and you should contact your test lead to get it registered...No biggie because you can access your account info via the new IE browser.
The new IE Browser is quicker and more functional in general. You also get Live! Search for 411 directory (which can dial/add to contacts directly from there!!!!) also Satellite and road map/GPS/directions/traffic... oh yes no bull... It has Windows LIVE! messenger and email integration to your home screen which is still buggy (gives error and you need to change to another home screen). Tmobile Blue home screen works fine...though there is a BETA stamp in the lower right corner (Also a big red UI TEST BUILD notice when you turn on the phone...oh well).
Anyways...I'm sure you've read all about the new features forever and been pissed that a couple of leaks for other version were out but not our beloved Dash. Here it is guys...Oh yes not a virus either.
Just one bit of advice. BE PATIENT DURING THE UPGRADE !!! It may look like it freezes at some points, but trust me it didn't.
File named RUU_Excalibur_TMO_US_1.20.531.1_4.1.13.34_02.79.90_Test.exe and it is 44.7 MB
Since I can't attach it here to the post I am posting the link to a torrent site which I've...yeah...well it's there and it works:
http://www.demonoid.com/files/details/1061423/4574331/
If for some reason the link doesn't work go to the main webpage and search...if you STILL can't find it...you don't need to be upgrading your phone - you'll probably break something lol

fo a second there i thought you had a different beta rom this has already been posted but thanks anyways!

thanks for posting a link, but this has been discussed in this forum for two weeks and there are a few threads that discuss different aspects of this rom. you really should do a little research as you will find fixes for a few of the small bugs you are no doubt experiencing

argh...I searched and didn't see any thread clearly saying there was something for the excalibur...maybe I should have looked closer. Sorry guys, but hey - it's another source to download it from I guess. Hopefully someone finds this useful.
Didn't mean to make it seem like I released something "newer" -
oh well - This site rox

Stock Droid Incredible Calculator question

Hey guys I noticed this this morning while doing a calculation. I am using the stock calculator that came with my Droid Incredible. I've not done any rooting or anything like that. When I enter 365.2 - 358.8 I get the total of 6.3999999999 instead of 6.4 like I should.
Is anyone else getting such calculations?
I've not been able to reproduce this using any other combination of numbers, although occasionally it will produce a something like this: instead of saying 3.4 it will say 3.4000000000. It doesn't do it to every value, but occasionally.
Any thoughts?

Wow, that is just FREAKY!! Same thing on mine! Guess I shouldnt use it for math class huh!

It just has something to do with how computers calculate math. Almost all computers will have problems with some calculations, for example, if you go to Google.com and type in something like 1-.9999999 or 999999999999999-999999999999998 it will give you a wrong answer. But yeah, lol, I wouldn't use this phone on tests or homework unless you don't have anything else around.

amdpimp said:
Hey guys I noticed this this morning while doing a calculation. I am using the stock calculator that came with my Droid Incredible. I've not done any rooting or anything like that. When I enter 365.2 - 358.8 I get the total of 6.3999999999 instead of 6.4 like I should.
Is anyone else getting such calculations?
I've not been able to reproduce this using any other combination of numbers, although occasionally it will produce a something like this: instead of saying 3.4 it will say 3.4000000000. It doesn't do it to every value, but occasionally.
Any thoughts?
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Well for what it's worth, 6.3999999~ is the same thing as 6.4

That is true about the rounding. I was actually heavily tempted to remove the stock calculator if I found find a better version on the Market.
Oh, and just for comparison sake, the stock calculator on the Moto Droid displays it correctly as 6.4

RealCalc Scientific Calculator in the Market works great.. and it gives you that 6.4 you are looking for..

On a serious note, I use handy calc, it's really nice and can graph functions too

The stock calc apparently has no way to save to memory... Kind of weird even for a very basic calculator.
If it does via some weird keystroke, I have never figured it out.

Try doing a trig function on the calculator...
Its USELESS.
Well, if you've memorized radian conversions, you can possible use it, but, its like needing an abacus to use a calculator...not worth it.
Why they didn't set it to use DEGREES for angles is beyond me...and there doesn't appear to be an option of switching it either.
Any of you geniuses figure out a way to make it work, ....
...or is the phone's calculator just a fake feature, and I should just down load one that works?
- Teeej
Droid Incredible
Verizon

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Divide all results by zero.

LOL
That's tooooo funny. Makes you wonder if a simple calculator program can't do that math correctly, what else is going on behind the scenes.
Could this be a clue to the mysterious battery drainage problem under Android?
So here's what I got from HTC when I filed a ticket over it:
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Dear Teesh,
Thank you for contacting us about this problem in the calculator application. I actually had one other email about this with another person several months ago, and what we determined was that it was an Android issue. I tested the math on one each of every Android phone we have and was able to recreate the issue. I also, when I was not at work, tested it with a friend's Android device that was not an HTC phone; same result. It appears to be something in the way that the base Android calculator is written; I sent the information up to the proper departments to see what could be done about it, but once the request goes up I don't get any direct response to it. I will again send up the information just in case; I remember posting on the code.google.com page about it when it happened, although I can't find that post now. Interestingly, if the remainder is greater than or equal to .5 it will show the correct answer. I apologize for any inconvenience you may have experienced, and I hope that it is something resolved in the near future.
To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number 10USCW39ENA000982.
Sincerely,
Philip
HTC

[Q] Chinese DHD is making my life miserable

This is a long rant manifested by my anger from the last few days event dealing with BestBuy China and HTC
I've tried to summarize my problem at the bottom if you don't feel like reading through the horrors of buying a smartphone in mainland China.
Story
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I recently decided to say goodbye to my samsung galaxy spica when it was stolen a few days ago. I live and study in China so I head over to BestBuy to get myself a new phone (yes, china has BestBuy). Once I enter the store and announce that I am in a search for a cellphone I am swarmed by five or six cellphone experts. I love android so I tell them I want the HTC desire HD; this temptress of a phone which appeals to my most inner desires. The best buy cellphone guys assures me that the phone is in English and that everything will be to my satisfaction. It is a fine day for spending credit and I am psyched as I draw my golden credit card from my back pocket as a modern warrior. I swipe my card elegantly and fast, as if I am a man who have made purchases of this magnitude many times before. I tell the lady behind the counter, who by the way does not speak a word English:
"Today is the day I am reborn!!"
I grab my newly purchased baby and throw myself into a taxi. I force the phone out of its wrappings and switch it on as soon as I'm done telling the taxi driver to take me home. The HTC logo appears "quietly briliant" it proclaims. After a few seconds of that the phone asks me weather I want English or Chinese? As my English is substantially better than my Chinese I went with English, cool enough! As I get home in range of my wireless I enter my google account details and I'm set! I tell this baby to automatically sync everything I got. I receive my first email after only 3 minutes of syncing and can see my entire inbox, really cool! My contacts and calendar is probably right around the corner but since it's kind of late I go to bed, I'm a very happy first time HTC customer and I dream a happy dream about flowers.
You can probably guess that this is the paragraph where it all turns to ****. Correct. I wake up and find that neither my contacts nor calendar have been synced. Probably a glitch. I enter the sync settings and find that my google account isn't there. Probably something I've missed. I press "Add account" and find that there is no option to add an google account at all, not cool. I search high and low for an answer, read cryptic texts translated by the mighty google translate. People keep saying to just look press "add account" and add my google account and follow the on screen instructions. Since I know I'm following the instructions correctly I just figure I give HTC a call to finally just fix this minor issue. I hit up HTC Hong Kong (HTC China doesn't have a English site so it's hard to navigate). They tell me that I have a Simplified Chinese rom. Ok, well that figures, I think to myself.. So how can I sync my google account? "I'm sorry sir that's not possible, you can however try to sync your gmail account to Microsoft outlook 2003/2007 and manually sync contacts every time you connect to your computer."
(excuse my language but I don't know any other way to express my feelings at that time other than...) "What the ****!?"
Is it not an android device I am wielding in my hand? Do I need a workaround to sync my google account? The tech support-guy asks for my email "to check if my device has that function (read: sync google accounts)" and he will contact me later. Turns out I can sync my contacts and calendar semi effectively through exchange activeSync. Alright, not exactly what I wanted but, pheeeew!! I can work with this.
I start customizing my DHD and think to myself, would it not be nice with some apps to go with this phone? Yeah, it would! I head over to the android market and install all the apps I could ever dream of. No wait, where is the android market? Oh there it is.. it's just called 'HTC Marketplace', figures, since this is an HTC device I'm holding. I head over to the HTC Marketplace.
HTC Marketplace greets me:
"I will provide you with the best application to your specific device, son!"
"Great, like apps that are customized to fit the DHD?"
"No, apps that are in Chinese."
"Oh, so how do I access my regular apps, like barcodescanner, facebook, youtube, spotify, etc? You know, the good ol' apps I've come to love over the years?"
"Sorry son, I don't know why, but that's just impossible for me to do for you, because my programming tells me I hate you"
Since HTC marketplace hates my guts I hit up HTC tech support again. My conversation goes a little like this:
"Hello, I'm having trouble with the android market"
"Yes, you want access the android market?"
"Yes"
"I'm sorry to inform you that you that you cant access the android market, but you can however access the beautiful world of 'HTC marketplace', a world of possibilities and anime!"
"I wish I bought an iPhone 4..."
Yeah well, I guess it just wasn't meant to be, I should just return the DHD to bestbuy and order one from America or europe. What do you know? In China there is no such thing as a return policy. And the cellphone guys who told me I would be more than happy with my new DHD can't understand why I possibly can be unhappy with it and they suggest stuff like "Go on the internet", "Try calling HTC and ask them to open your phone for american internet access" and my favorite "You can call and send messages? Yes? Then no problem with your phone, go home"
So now I'm stuck with the most expensive phone I've ever purchased which China ruthlessly ripped the heart and soul out of, only to sell it to me and tell me the phone is more than good enough since it can make calls and send messages.
Sure to say, I had the worst day..
I should have ordered from Hong Kong.
/rant
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Problem
In short, I have a Chinese DHD without the ability to access the android market and it is generally crippled. This is apparently because of the Traditional Chinese rom it comes with. I would ultimately like to have a generic/stock DHD rom (I'm not quite sure what you call them but vanilla, out of the box, etc in world wide english) and I have no idea if this is possible or where to start my journey towards fixing this.
I've been reading about rooting for two days now and I still am unsure as to what I should do and where to start. Please, help a fellow out, I'm having a really bad week.
My phone:
Android version: 2.2.1
Build number: 1.75.1400.4
Software number 1.0.0.A9191
(If you need any other info from me please do tell me)

Impossible to do anything, as rooting not possible.
Chinese user with a HongKong DHD
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

In theory, you could install WWE (world wide english) stock ROM, but unfortunatelly, not with your software version as it is not rootable yet

Bloody hell that sounds bad, is this will all Chinese Desire HDs then? It's almost like one of those knock-off phones although you have purchased it genuinely. Don't know how things work in China but if you cant root it then give HTC a call and demand a replacement from Europe/America.
Again, don't know how things work in China but i would so furious that i would cancel my credit card and tell them to go screw themselves. Speak to a lawyer if you intend to do that..

if you really cant give the phone back, try to sell it.
perhaps anyone else will buy it.
than get one from europe or the US.
thats so damn pity, caus the phone os realy godlike i think.
if u cant sell it and dont have enuff money for a new nice phone, wait a little until an root hack for your version comes out.
thats really bad, i know
sry m8!

Just wait around for the root to come out for the software just like the rest of suckers who updated! ;p

Would the Goldcard method work here?

It should in theory work. I'm not sure you need root access to just flash a ROM from a different region. I did it on my previous Desire which I got from Hong Kong. Flashed a WWE ROM when Froyo was released.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

The problem is with Google, not China or HTC. Just like most of the 3rd world countries can't buy anything on the Android Marketplace (nevermind that fact that we cant even develop a paid app to publish on the market).

hehehehe ... i just read through your rant ... made quite a read .. ok now to fix your problem
Root your phone .. its no biggie follow this link and you will be all set
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=841076
next go to the development section , choose a rom of your liking .. suggest android revolution hd or leedroid .... read instructions and flash your phone .. .that should pretty much fix your problem ... do let us know how it went
Edit: Oops just saw that your build is 1.75 ... Sorry mate , no root for the phone at the moment

Maybe you should re-read his post, especially the end.
The latest HTC update has been applied, there is no root or ENG HBOOT options at the moment.

A little update
I've been emailing HTC asking them to fix (read: let me return) the phone ever since I realized I wouldn't be able to return the phone to BestBuy and I just got a call from HTC.
First a guy who could only speak Chinese called, sure to say that wasn't a very productive conversation as my Chinese is very basic. I then recieve a second call late at night from someone at the Hong Kong office who speaks English. After about 5 minutes of telling me that he understood my situation, could feel my pain, was sympathetic to my problem and would do everything in his power to help solve it, I thought things were looking up! The conversation progresses like this but gradually he starts saying stuff like "help you make use of your device as best as we can" and "make it easy for you to operate". This was when I realized this person was not going to help me. I knew that if he was going to actually help he would have told me by now that I could return the phone, not this about "easing me into the phone". Finally the guy gets to the point and says "But although we understand your problem, there is nothing wrong with the hardware itself and we can not help you return the phone. Your perceived problem is with the software."
Christ..
To this I of course reply "Even though the problem is software related it's not any less of a problem, it has rendered the phone completely useless to me and I don't think the phone fulfilles the vision I got after reading reviews and watching the ads before buying it" ...And here we go again with the appoligizes and general willingness to help me use the phone as it currently is. He even asked me which applications I was missing so he could try and find Chinese "replacement apps", or Chinese apps that would fulfill my needs.
I'm not giving up yet, I'm sure HTC is willing to help me with this if I could only reach the right people in the organization. This is has turned into a genuine nightmare first time experience with HTC..
@RED_ I think this is how all Chinese DHD works, yes. And I don’t think I want to risk seeing the inside of a Chinese prison by cancelling my credit card although it is very tempting :\
@Eddie1506; tranceonline; momavujistic; irteza_h, I guess I have to wait for someone with the know-how to make my version rootable. I’m turning off automatic updates on my phone to prevent it from further updating.
@leppie, I can’t even access the free applications. I think HTC (or google) made this ‘HTC marketplace’ to be accepted by the government. When I was speaking with HTC today I asked why there was no access to the android market in the first place. They told me “because your phone is Chinese and the market you can access is specialized to your location and the customers in that location”. Which I think means that they can’t sell phones with the open android market in China because of government restrictions. The real android market works down here though, I could access it through on my European Samsung Galaxy.
andyharney said:
Would the Goldcard method work here?
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olivierlee said:
It should in theory work. I'm not sure you need root access to just flash a ROM from a different region. I did it on my previous Desire which I got from Hong Kong. Flashed a WWE ROM when Froyo was released.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
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Are you guys saying it might work? If there's a chance I will try. How can I test this? Or is it safest to wait for someone to come up with a way to root this device?
How long does it generally take for a new root technique to be ready? Also, I've seen people complaining because they updated to version 1.72 or something. I have 1.75, does this mean 1) that I have to wait a lot longer or maybe 2) that my phone has some kind of special software?

hey there,
after reading your messages through this morning and everything, you should be able to flash a WWE Rom using this guide --> here <--
i hope this helps you liberate your DHD, if you need any help with this guide let me know ill guide you through
its the goldcard method.

Yep, try the goldcard method. If it works you'll get a WWE Desire HD. Not sure you need to do all these. You might just try to create a goldcard, have it in your phone, and just run any WWE RUU you want. I'd stay away from the 1.72 one as it seems to be causing alot of problems. However you might not be able to buy apps from the market since buying paid apps from the market is not possible from China. See http://market.android.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=143779 .
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

well there is a liberated market somewhere on the forums for DHD

your phone was 'harmonised' by the communist government
I think you really should gain root access to your device and flash a customised ROM on it, in *should* solve your problem. though you probably want to have a backup before you do so

To be honest scientist, i wish you read earliar he cant root a 1. 75 rom. So he'll have to use the goldcard method
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

His best option is as suggested by flo. Just hours ago a method has been released which will allow him to downgrade to the wwe stock rom 1.32 version. From there he can root and install a custom rom, or if preferred simply keep it at stock and update it to wwe 1.72 version. As far as market restrictions go it is possible to use "market enabler" hacks to allow paid access to the market anywhere.

This sounds like good news!
Yesterday when I wrote the original reply I was kind of drunk and it was 6am I think so I'm just rewriting the entire reply. For all it shortcomings when it comes to smartphones, China do have a lot of opportunities for people (like me) who want to stay out all night singing karaoke and eating popcorn. Anyway, I think the best approach, instead of asking any of you to hold my hand through this is that I just post what I think I should do and then you can tell me if I'm way off target.
Is this correct?
Step 1 - making a goldcard
I think you are saying that I need to make a goldcard and for that I follow the 'creating a goldcard' over at modaco.com. It looks quite straightforward so I don't think this will be a problem. However, I need to venture out into China and find a real SDcard with an adapter (guess I'm heading over to BestBuy again)
Question: In the downgrading thread it says to "Use MMC2!!", what does that mean?
Step 2 - Downgrading
I've extracted the downgrade folder conveniently to d:\downgrade and will open cmd and type inn all the commands I have no idea what actually does (I'm used to this ). Then I will look for "#" and proceed. I will copy PD98IMG.zip to the goldcard and hopefully there will be some instructions of some kind that I can follow.
Step 3 - profit?
If all this works what should I do next? Or more, where am I? What will happen after this? Do I have a stock rom now? And can I just stop there and update the rom and be happy? I do plan to root my device some time later, but for now I will be more than super happy just to have a wwe stock rom with no root, fully updated with the android market. Am I far off?

Success! Got myself a goldcard!
Now what do I do with it? (for real, it's not really clear in any of the guides what I should do with the goldcard microSD). Do I put it into the phone?

[INFO] XDA File Server for DEV's and users!

Hi,
On the 14th of March i started a new project called XDA File Server. The purpose of the site is to host files for Dev's and give users a nice spot where they can find them. And so far it's been busy! 1,7TB has been uploaded allready and 11000+ vistors and more then 11000 files served!
The server it self runs on a 100mbit optic fiber line and should provide a decent speed to most people.
On the moment you'll find ROMS for the asus transformer, lg optimus 2x and xperia s (orginal firmware on the moment), i'm still expanding but it takes time and money! Hope you guys/girls like it !
the url: http://www.xdafileserver.nl
You can also follow me on xdafileserver on twitter.
Korumera

*bump*
I'm still working on a easy and clean design so dont panic when you see one design first and a few seconds or minutes an other one, the downloads will go on.
Some stats so far:
almost 1000 unique vistors in only 3 days! 190GB downloaded so that's nice too. If any other dev's need xs let me know. I'll add some stock roms as well by gee one for restoring

Stock recovery might be a good addition as well.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk

Thanks for the tip
I'll find a good version and add it

Actually now that i think about it a good selection of tools like nvflash, adb, nachoroot, vipermod, drivers, superwipe, CWM 3.something and 5.something, Rogue recovery, other stuff that might be useful. Sort of like a one stop shopping kinda place.

This is such an awesome gesture. Thank you!
Another suggestion: Maybe you can have some pages (or the main pages) on your site link through coralcdn.org by appending .nyud.net to the domain part of your URL. By doing this, for public content, HTTP requests are automatically redirected through a custom peer-to-peer network using DNS and distributed amongst a huge number of caching proxies, reducing the load on the original server as well as bringing content closer (network topologically) to the requester.
Note: I am not connected to coralcdn.org in any way.

Dreamboxuser said:
Actually now that i think about it a good selection of tools like nvflash, adb, nachoroot, vipermod, drivers, superwipe, CWM 3.something and 5.something, Rogue recovery, other stuff that might be useful. Sort of like a one stop shopping kinda place.
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Good idea! I'll msg most of these dev's if they are ok with the mirror ( think they are but it's nice to do). And i'll make a folder for these things.
I'm still working on the site to make it as fast as possible for users that are on the other side of the world, but it's not going to be routed trough any dns service of anykind it's on a 100mbit fiber line it should be fast enough and it should support proper download managers (so you could resume).
I'll show some stats from this week later on

I'm in indonesia if that's far enough away for ya. Sometimes it drops out but that's at my end and it still maxes out my 3g.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk

Ok i've added some other developers roms to the server and i've registerd a new url for it you can now bookmark
http://www.xdafileserver.nl for all your roms!
If you are a dev or know one that needs a place to host their roms let them contact me and i'll see what i can do.
@Moderator Is it possible to sticky this topic? makes it much easier for me to keep people informed!

Ugg getting annoyed tried 15 times to download mar 27 cm9.
Keeps saying file is finished at like 15 megs.
Is there anything going on or is it just me?
edit: seems my 3g doesnt like your server. On a landline it seems to be working well.

Nopes it's running on full speed on the moment. But i'm going to change setup soon so perhaps that will fix it for you
oh and for those on 3g try: THIS and let me know of that works

Moving to a more appropriate place

I find your project very useful.
Do you consider including other devices as well?

Hi
Yes that's the general idea indeed. But i'm starting up slowly with some dev's and adding more while to goes on. First wanna see how much data this is gonna take .
A member of team xperia is uploading some files and is gonna use it for the 2011 range (and the comming 2012) after that i'll find and ask a galaxy 2 dev if he want's to mirror/host the files on my server

Just a note that the word 'you' on the website's main banner should read 'your'. As if you don't have enough to do.
Thanks for your work and such a cool idea for a Site.
Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk 2 Beta-4

Ok thanks
haven't checked the text yet and gonna rewrite it soon. I'm working on an different site (same layout) but more options!

Hi,
Sorry for the bump (@mod's is it possible this get's a sticky), i would like to know which phone you would like to see next on www.xdafileserver.nl

Korumera said:
Hi,
Sorry for the bump (@mod's is it possible this get's a sticky), i would like to know which phone you would like to see next on www.xdafileserver.nl
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Nexus S?
Sent from my ice cream powered Nexus S

I can't figure out how to get this file: http://xda.servebeer.com/TF101/Stock Roms by gee one/With Root/ics_92117_stock_EBT_SOS.zip
It's from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1552303

Hi
Try this link HERE
let me know!

wamt to root my amazon fire tv

i just bought a amazon tv fire and want to root it but when i plug it in for the first time it wants to download a software update after finding my network..how do i get around that...i know its a series 3 and is rootable..are there any videos on how to root this device..any help would be appreciated thanks....

jackal2403 said:
i just bought a amazon tv fire and want to root it but when i plug it in for the first time it wants to download a software update after finding my network..how do i get around that...i know its a series 3 and is rootable..are there any videos on how to root this device..any help would be appreciated thanks....
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http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-setup-a-new-fire-tv-without-blocking-root/

jackal2403 said:
i just bought a amazon tv fire and want to root it but when i plug it in for the first time it wants to download a software update after finding my network..how do i get around that...i know its a series 3 and is rootable..are there any videos on how to root this device..any help would be appreciated thanks....
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don't let it update and dont use Wifi. Start it up and when you get the wifi selection option, give it the ethernet connection till you see the word checking for updates, as soon as you see it, remove the ethernet and you should see a login screen. Go ahead login and root/block updates and downgrade and then go back up. the link given above should help.

I just picked mine up from BB and got a big fat "NO" on the root serial number check on aftvnews. Does that mean there's no shot for me- or can I still hook it up without internet and see what's up?
edit: fired it up and saw the german language option which I guess means no root for me

Hag77 said:
I just picked mine up from BB and got a big fat "NO" on the root serial number check on aftvnews. Does that mean there's no shot for me- or can I still hook it up without internet and see what's up?
edit: fired it up and saw the german language option which I guess means no root for me
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return it back to bestbuy. Go looking for series 3. There are plenty out there. I just saw two of those series in Los Angeles Best Buy.

navigates said:
return it back to bestbuy. Go looking for series 3. There are plenty out there. I just saw two of those series in Los Angeles Best Buy.
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I thought about that- but I'm also wondering just how important is the extra storage space to me. Perhaps more than I think.. Also- the other problem is that they're actually pretty hard to find in stock around here. I had to order online and do store pick up just to make sure it would be there when I got there. Assuming I do visit some other stores and try to grab one- is there something I can see in the serial number which will tell me it's a series 3? I looked at the decoder on aftvnews I don't see anything about series, but there is a number that shows the revision.. Same thing as series? Thanks

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I thought about that- but I'm also wondering just how important is the extra storage space to me. Perhaps more than I think.. Also- the other problem is that they're actually pretty hard to find in stock around here. I had to order online and do store pick up just to make sure it would be there when I got there. Assuming I do visit some other stores and try to grab one- is there something I can see in the serial number which will tell me it's a series 3? I looked at the decoder on aftvnews I don't see anything about series, but there is a number that shows the revision.. Same thing as series? Thanks
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The Serial number sould be 70900305 or 303. Get the point. ? Its still easily available here in the Los Angeles Area. It will require some effort but I'm sure you will get it. As for the benefits for root each one has their own advantages. For me these are to name a few.
1. Extra Space once I run out. I really don't think I'll need it.
2. USB Drive. This too I don't need as I use the network.
3. QuickSupport (TeamViewer) This is the most important as I can help fix my parents and family's firetv remotely as only with root you can get remote view.
4. md.emu and other emulators which are paid in google play. (Enjoy playing the nintendo and sega master system) to revive old days.
5. Custom Rom (around the corner) not needed now.
6. Kodi Icon on home screen. Nice to have but not needed.
7. Suspend and Restart in Kodi (Very useful features)
I'm sure here are others features that I've missed or don't know off but if given a choice, I'd rather spend the extra effort but get a rooted one. I have one extra rooted one in 'my doomsday bunker as I always have a feeling I may mess mine up or brick it up one day.

Thanks for the advice- so are you saying the 6th digit should be a 3 as in "series 3" or as aftvnews describe it "hardware revision"? I'm a little confused since their advice seems to indicate that factory software is based on the manufactured date which are the 9-12 digits..
Either way- I'm going to go around to a few more stores that may have them in stock and punch them into the decoder and see if I get lucky.. If not, I'm not terribly disappointed. With the unrooted unit I picked up earlier today I've managed to install Kodi, and "add the app" to home screen with the ikono TV / llama trick. Again, I'd love to have root and extra storage so I'll see what I can do- but this seems like it's gonna be a really solid device.. I tested some uncompressed high-bit rate stuff and it played flawlessly.. If only it could pass through HD audio- then it would just be darn near 100% perfect..

Hag77 said:
Thanks for the advice- so are you saying the 6th digit should be a 3 as in "series 3" or as aftvnews describe it "hardware revision"? I'm a little confused since their advice seems to indicate that factory software is based on the manufactured date which are the 9-12 digits..
Either way- I'm going to go around to a few more stores that may have them in stock and punch them into the decoder and see if I get lucky.. If not, I'm not terribly disappointed. With the unrooted unit I picked up earlier today I've managed to install Kodi, and "add the app" to home screen with the ikono TV / llama trick. Again, I'd love to have root and extra storage so I'll see what I can do- but this seems like it's gonna be a really solid device.. I tested some uncompressed high-bit rate stuff and it played flawlessly.. If only it could pass through HD audio- then it would just be darn near 100% perfect..
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yes. Don't follow the decoder. The decoder says the Series 2 is good as well but I couldn't get those to bypass the initial check. By Series 3 yes I mean the 6th digit 305 or 303 or 304 sets are good in my personal experience. I've done quiet a few. I also tried looking for you yesterday in my local best buy (91303) but they didn't have it in stock. Had you asked a few days earlier. I would have saved one for you instead of returning it. Next time I see a correct series, I'll pick up a few for the community incase someone needs them. . Good luck and let me know if you need any help.

Hey man- thanks for convincing me to stick with the idea of going after an old one! I drove to a BB a little further away and it was worth it. They had two, and one was a 3 series! I punched it up on the decoder also and it says it should be rootable- woohoo! I won't have a chance to know for sure until this evening when I can plug it in and play with it- but it looks like I'm good. Just need to make sure I follow the steps right and not let the darn thing update.

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Hey man- thanks for convincing me to stick with the idea of going after an old one! I drove to a BB a little further away and it was worth it. They had two, and one was a 3 series! I punched it up on the decoder also and it says it should be rootable- woohoo! I won't have a chance to know for sure until this evening when I can plug it in and play with it- but it looks like I'm good. Just need to make sure I follow the steps right and not let the darn thing update.
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If you live close to 91303, I can help you out. If you aren't good at it, I can put up the firmwares till the bootmenu for you. If you want the files. PM me. I have all of them on my hdd. They all are available anyways but took me a while to collect them all. Finally if you want to send it in to me with shipping both ways, I'll do it for you. Either way congrats. but by knowing the times of your reply, you may be on the east coast
Remember its the ethernet trick of removal when checking for updates for series 3 and that is the only way now. Ensure you block on router first as well before you start. If you have mcaffee anti virus, ensure you disable it on your pc as tw_3.apk is detected as a virus. Keep all ducks in order. Its not hard if you know what your doing. You will have to downgrade and root again and block updates again before you go back up to prior to the bootmenu. After unlock, you can go to rbox' boot menu with recovery with the latest rooted firmware. Finally I suggest install google play with market helper 1.1 to make apps compatible. In the end use SDCard Pro which costs about 2.50 on google play to clean out the orphans and recover some captured disk land space.
Good Luck and its nice that you took that effort. Its totally worth it. When I first started doing this, I didn't know of the auto update to non root version and didn't block anything and lost my root. I since then sold my non rooted on ebay and repurchased it. I now have an extra in my bunker.

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If you live close to 91303, I can help you out. If you aren't good at it, I can put up the firmwares till the bootmenu for you. If you want the files. PM me. I have all of them on my hdd. They all are available anyways but took me a while to collect them all. Finally if you want to send it in to me with shipping both ways, I'll do it for you. Either way congrats. but by knowing the times of your reply, you may be on the east coast
Remember its the ethernet trick of removal when checking for updates for series 3 and that is the only way now. Ensure you block on router first as well before you start. If you have mcaffee anti virus, ensure you disable it on your pc as tw_3.apk is detected as a virus. Keep all ducks in order. Its not hard if you know what your doing. You will have to downgrade and root again and block updates again before you go back up to prior to the bootmenu. After unlock, you can go to rbox' boot menu with recovery with the latest rooted firmware. Finally I suggest install google play with market helper 1.1 to make apps compatible. In the end use SDCard Pro which costs about 2.50 on google play to clean out the orphans and recover some captured disk land space.
Good Luck and its nice that you took that effort. Its totally worth it. When I first started doing this, I didn't know of the auto update to non root version and didn't block anything and lost my root. I since then sold my non rooted on ebay and repurchased it. I now have an extra in my bunker.
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Thanks dude. Before going over to the dark side with my iphone I had about 5 different android phones and rooted/rom'd every single one of em.. So although this seems maybe a little bit more involved I think I'll be alright- but your tips are much appreciated and I may hit you up on PM if I run into any troubles. What are your thoughts on the all-in-one tools/scripts here on the forums that will root, install CWM, etc?

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Thanks dude. Before going over to the dark side with my iphone I had about 5 different android phones and rooted/rom'd every single one of em.. So although this seems maybe a little bit more involved I think I'll be alright- but your tips are much appreciated and I may hit you up on PM if I run into any troubles. What are your thoughts on the all-in-one tools/scripts here on the forums that will root, install CWM, etc?
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I really use a combination. I have a directory for downgrade and just follow through the instructions. I've saved up the files in the respective directories in my PC as \downgrade and then as \latest before the bootmenu and then \final with boot menu. (I know the naming is a little whacked but it works for me)
In the instructions they don't say to put the rom.zip in the folder so I manually put it. If you need all the files, I can package it up for you. We will have to figure out how to send it over to you. through teamviewer / dropbox or some other way.
as for automation scripts, I don't use any. I just have batch files to install all the apks. I also install google play and the llama automation scripts and then import it in Llama.
In the end I use adbfire only to restore the kodi backup which has all the nuances from helix and elmero's fixes. and then replace the icons of ikono.tv.
I haven't had the need to extend my drive but have a hub waiting for future if I need it.
* Don't forget to disable using the com = disable command.

Phew... Did it- man that was a heck of a process.. Had to do all the downgrade/upgrade/boot menu, etc etc etc but it's finally done and I'm all up to date! I could probably do it again in half the time now that I've done it once, but that first time was a real doozy.. I pretty much just stuck to the atvf guides. Thanks again for the tips / advice.

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Phew... Did it- man that was a heck of a process.. Had to do all the downgrade/upgrade/boot menu, etc etc etc but it's finally done and I'm all up to date! I could probably do it again in half the time now that I've done it once, but that first time was a real doozy.. I pretty much just stuck to the atvf guides. Thanks again for the tips / advice.
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Great. Congrats !! Its surely not for the faint of heart. and most mess it up. Ensure you block the updates on the router and through pm disable.