Why is there no "great" universal camera app? - Sprint Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Replacing TouchWiz with the clean new look of lollipop is something I wish I could do, but some missing features ruin it for me! Crashes, GPS problems, and especially the camera.
I take a lot of pictures, and I enjoy the Samsung Camera. Having to use Google Camera is just.. bleh. It's simple. WAY too simple.
Why is there really no solid, universal camera application? There are many camera apps on the play store, but I've tested almost all of them, and they ALL lack something important.
Has anyone else desired a powerful universal camera application?
Or know of one that isn't missing any key features.

Try open camera? I love it. Doesn't have beauty face and extra modes but as far as an actual camera for free it's great Imo
I'm assuming you talking about running a non-touchwiz rom that doesn't come with the Samsung camera.?
Surely you can find an apk for a compatible version. ?

The latest stable version of cyanogenmod 13 in the original android section is running pretty stable for me. No GPS problems or crashes. Just make sure to turn off the automatic brightness since that's a bit wonky.
As far as camera apps. Try a better camera or ABC I think it's called. It's pretty feature packed.

Snapcamera. Hands down the best out of the box in terms of features and control over settings. Now, the proprietary camera app that Samsung bundles has lower level access to the hardware that no 3rd party developer can tango with...yet. The low light options work the sensor differently from what I understand (takes multiple high speed images and composites them, that's why it tells you to hold still when snapping the shot). That being said, if you hate touchwiz, which I do, run with CM13, grab Snapcamera, be happy.

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any camera focus avancements

Just wondering if anyone has figured out why the camera on aosp Roms focuses for some and not for others. I've had the problem right from the very first aosp flash I did. Maybe a full data wipe and adb side load would help? I know there's a script work around but it doesn't make sense that it works for some and not others. Not to me anyways. But great job on the Roms. Really liking them and thanks.
bowhunt2005 said:
Just wondering if anyone has figured out why the camera on aosp Roms focuses for some and not for others. I've had the problem right from the very first aosp flash I did. Maybe a full data wipe and adb side load would help? I know there's a script work around but it doesn't make sense that it works for some and not others. Not to me anyways. But great job on the Roms. Really liking them and thanks.
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The problem exist because of the differences in the Nexus 4 camera and the one in our phone. Because LG hasn't released open source drivers for our phone's camera (and/or doesn't see the monetary benefit in supporting 3rd party development) LGOG developers appear to be stuck using and trying to adapt the software from the Nexus 4. The camera will focus during the first launch of the camera apk then be unable to focus until the process is killed completely and restarted.
Those who are reporting that their camera works just fine in an AOSP ROM are one of the following: Those who have applied the kill / relaunch script, those who only tested their camera on first launch, or those who are so accustomed to crappy phone cameras that they consider anything greater than a completely blurry mess to be "in focus."
I often wondered if it was really working for some. But thanks for the info and I guess I will just try to stay patient. Hopefully there is an improvement soon. The camera takes great photos on lifeless but I really like the aosp Roms.

LG G3 D851, CyanogenMod, Camera quality is much lower than stock Android

I flashed my G3 to have the latest (when I flashed it) CyanogenMod (Version: 12.1-20151023-NIGHTLY-d851 ). Since then, I've been loving my G3. However, I'm having some problems with the camera. I've tried the default camera app CM uses, and then with OpenCamera. My pictures are just generally very low-quality compared to stock Android.
I've tried: Bumping up the image quality in Open Camera's settings. (settings -> photo settings -> Image Quality)
Waiting longer for the camera to focus.
Double and triple-checking the resolution. (Images are correct resolution, but are blotchy and/or fuzzy.)
It doesn't seem to be any of those, but I'm fairly new to the Android crowd.
I will provide photos for comparison, but not of the same object. (I haven't taken photos of much more than my cat, so bear with me.) Both before and after installing CyanogenMod, pictures of my cat turn out lower-quality than of other things. This may be because of a noise algorithm that has issues with fur, but what do I know? Seriously, I'm super new.
Here's an Imgur album (Two pictures): imgur (dot) com /a/AxAhT
I know Imgur compresses images or whatever, but the difference is pretty clear. I couldn't find anything else I had taken pictures both before and after installing CyanogenMod. I have a picture of gummy worms from before, but that doesn't help without an after.
Any other relevant questions, I can probably answer.
Go on apk mirror and search CyanogenMod camera (the one plus one ) it works perfect (good quality ) after try flashing Androidcid-MOD-G3_20150511_V11-SPARTAN.zip and choose your aroma.
From what I understand stock camera is better because of proprietary files that are not present in CM. So if camera quality is a priority, stock is the way to go. I love CM Official, but I'm trying out stock based roms for this reason.
Liberr said:
From what I understand stock camera is better because of proprietary files that are not present in CM. So if camera quality is a priority, stock is the way to go. I love CM Official, but I'm trying out stock based roms for this reason.
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This makes a lot of sense, actually. Camera quality isn't a huge priority. I rarely use it, and am going to get a GoPro fairly soon. I just wasn't sure what was causing the issue. I love CM too much to give it up for better quality photos.
Semi on-topic: With this Nightly build of CM, my phone seems to shut down at random (though fairly rarely), and become unresponsive. I have to remove the battery and re-insert it before I'm able to power on my phone. This didn't happen with stock Android, so I'm fairly certain it's a CM thing. Is it that the Nightlies are generally unstable? Is there a stable version I can switch to?
Would I be able to copy my current 'data' folder (apps and their sign-in info, as far as I can tell) to the stable CM version and cut out all the extra setup time of re-downloading and signing into my apps?
I have a love/hate relationship with CM. On one hand it's buttery smooth when it works, but frequent (for me) random reboots kill it. They always seem to happen at the most inopportune times. I haven't been able to find an AOSP rom that doesn't have this symptom either.
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Best LG G3 D855 AOSP CAMERA

Hi, I am looking for the best camera app for my D855 with Dirty Unicorn 7.1.2. Can you help me? there is an original camera's porting for aosp?
gianm.93 said:
Hi, I am looking for the best camera app for my D855 with Dirty Unicorn 7.1.2. Can you help me? there is an original camera's porting for aosp?
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what should i do?
Impossible.
I have tried htc 10 camera port, snap camera hdr, google camera. They are all the same. The best alternative is lg g2 camera port. You can see the difference in low light conditions.
This one:
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=146615
You have to downgrade your display resolution to 1920x1080 @ 420 dpi.
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This one:
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=146615
You have to downgrade your display resolution to 1920x1080 @ 420 dpi.
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Why I have to downscale the screen resolution?
tylerberk said:
Impossible.
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Why the porting is impossible?
gianm.93 said:
Why the porting is impossible?
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LG didn't release the sources.
Why there is LG G2 camera ported (without certain features, but it is), and there aren't any g3 camera port :/
TheBerebian said:
Why there is LG G2 camera ported (without certain features, but it is), and there aren't any g3 camera port :/
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Because no one did it. You can try.
gianm.93 said:
Why I have to downscale the screen resolution?
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Because G2 has a full hd display and this app comes from it.
If you run it on a qhd display like the G3 one you wiil encounter an incorrect visualization.
It's easy to change the resolution and dpi
using terminal emulator,if the phone is rooted
Coolgoly said:
Because G2 has a full hd display and this app comes from it.
If you run it on a qhd display like the G3 one you wiil encounter an incorrect visualization.
It's easy to change the resolution and dpi
using terminal emulator,if the phone is rooted
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Easy DPI Changer works as well, and it is best to use lg g3 on 1080p res makes the phone much more fast and stable.
Hi, I also miss the superior quality of camera from stock ROM. I was trying to follow some tutorials on porting vendor apps to AOSP (getting the camera apk file, some libraries, framework files and permission files and compiling them all together), but it never worked with the camera. Sadly, I'm pretty sure that if it was possible, somebody smarter would have already done it. With LG being jerks and not releasing the sources, we most likely won't get the stock camera on AOSP, ever. That being said, I can think of four possible ways of dealing with the situation.
First, use stock ROM only. Yes, I know, that sucks. Or stock based ROM such as Fulmics, if you really think there is a difference between these two.
Second option is multirom. I was using it for last few months with LineageOS as primary and stock as secondary ROM, and everytime when I knew I would be taking some photos (when I went to concerts/holidays/celebrations/some unusual stuff), I booted to stock ROM and was good to go.
Third option is to have a TWRP backup of your current system and of stock ROM and restoring the backup of the ROM you want to use (AOSP for daily usage, stock for the days you know you'll be using your camera a lot). The previous (multirom) option is faster and easier to manage, and you can always add new ROMs and experiment as you wish. However, it requieres a custom recovery and I wasn't able to pass SafetyNet test with multirom and LineageOS with Magisk. Also, multirom makes a little bit of a mess at your /system partition. This third option (backing up/restoring system in TWRP) takes longer, the backups are large, but I'm liking that a bit more for some reason - it feels "cleaner" and more transparent to me.
The last option is to be on AOSP and use a camera app of your choice which you find has the best quality. I was experimenting with this a lot and tried dozens of camera apps (including the LG G2 camera port). Honestly, most of the photos were about the same quality. Even the G2 camera wasn't better than the rest I tested. I also compared the test pictures to stock camera (yes, I took the time to reboot to my secondary ROM for every test I was making at that time) and I was very sad that nothing was close to the stock camera quality. LG really does some magical post processing which works like a charm and looks really good. Anyways, after the tests I decided to stick with Snap Camera HDR. It has a trial and a paid version on the Play Store, in case you want to give it a shot. At good light conditions, the photos are actually comparable to stock camera. There is tons of settings to play with. It has a special "LG mode", which actually works even on AOSP ROMs and enables some LG specific features. It can also record 4K videos with stabilization. If you give it a try and really look into the settings (I recommend going also to the developer's website, where every option in the settings is described), you might end up with decent stock camera replacement. It took me about an hour to go through all the settings, but I'm fairly satisfied with the photos now. Although it has been last updated almost a year ago on the Play Store, there is a much more recent beta version here on the xda forums.
tl;dr I believe that porting stock camera app to AOSP is impossible. If you want stock camera quality, you really have to use stock ROM one way or another (either be on stock, or have a stock ROM TWRP backup and restore it whenever you want to take a good photo, or use multirom to switch your current ROM more quickly). If you want to use AOSP exclusively, I recommend Snap Camera HDR.
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Second option is multirom. I was using it for last few months with LineageOS as primary and stock as secondary ROM, and everytime when I knew I would be taking some photos (when I went to concerts/holidays/celebrations/some unusual stuff), I booted to stock ROM and was good to go.
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There's another option similar (or not) to multirom:
For installing multiple ROMs I use DualBootPatcher, a great method devised originally for the SGS4, but available for a number of devices now, including our G3. I highly recommend it, it seems cleaner than multirom to me and more user friendly. It is possible to flash ROMs from within the app (they have to be patched first, this also happens inside the app, hence the name), backup, restore and more. There may be some hiccups now and then, but all in all it works smoothly.
Just search the LG G3 forums for DualBootPatcher, there's a thread with download links, description and how-to.
LG G3 AOSP Camera Comparison
felmaster said:
Hi, I also miss the superior quality of camera from stock ROM. I was trying to follow some tutorials on porting vendor apps to AOSP (getting the camera apk file, some libraries, framework files and permission files and compiling them all together), but it never worked with the camera. Sadly, I'm pretty sure that if it was possible, somebody smarter would have already done it. With LG being jerks and not releasing the sources, we most likely won't get the stock camera on AOSP, ever. That being said, I can think of four possible ways of dealing with the situation.
First, use stock ROM only. Yes, I know, that sucks. Or stock based ROM such as Fulmics, if you really think there is a difference between these two.
Second option is multirom. I was using it for last few months with LineageOS as primary and stock as secondary ROM, and everytime when I knew I would be taking some photos (when I went to concerts/holidays/celebrations/some unusual stuff), I booted to stock ROM and was good to go.
Third option is to have a TWRP backup of your current system and of stock ROM and restoring the backup of the ROM you want to use (AOSP for daily usage, stock for the days you know you'll be using your camera a lot). The previous (multirom) option is faster and easier to manage, and you can always add new ROMs and experiment as you wish. However, it requieres a custom recovery and I wasn't able to pass SafetyNet test with multirom and LineageOS with Magisk. Also, multirom makes a little bit of a mess at your /system partition. This third option (backing up/restoring system in TWRP) takes longer, the backups are large, but I'm liking that a bit more for some reason - it feels "cleaner" and more transparent to me.
The last option is to be on AOSP and use a camera app of your choice which you find has the best quality. I was experimenting with this a lot and tried dozens of camera apps (including the LG G2 camera port). Honestly, most of the photos were about the same quality. Even the G2 camera wasn't better than the rest I tested. I also compared the test pictures to stock camera (yes, I took the time to reboot to my secondary ROM for every test I was making at that time) and I was very sad that nothing was close to the stock camera quality. LG really does some magical post processing which works like a charm and looks really good. Anyways, after the tests I decided to stick with Snap Camera HDR. It has a trial and a paid version on the Play Store, in case you want to give it a shot. At good light conditions, the photos are actually comparable to stock camera. There is tons of settings to play with. It has a special "LG mode", which actually works even on AOSP ROMs and enables some LG specific features. It can also record 4K videos with stabilization. If you give it a try and really look into the settings (I recommend going also to the developer's website, where every option in the settings is described), you might end up with decent stock camera replacement. It took me about an hour to go through all the settings, but I'm fairly satisfied with the photos now. Although it has been last updated almost a year ago on the Play Store, there is a much more recent beta version here on the xda forums.
tl;dr I believe that porting stock camera app to AOSP is impossible. If you want stock camera quality, you really have to use stock ROM one way or another (either be on stock, or have a stock ROM TWRP backup and restore it whenever you want to take a good photo, or use multirom to switch your current ROM more quickly). If you want to use AOSP exclusively, I recommend Snap Camera HDR.
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Snap Camera would look good on good light conditions but the actual problem starts with low light, Snap camera adds too much noise on photos compared to LG Camera Port, LG camera port is also great on good light conditions. Any camera app can seem close to stock on good light but real comparison should be made on low light. None of them is comparable to stock LG G3 camera of course, i think laser autofocus and object tracking don't work in any of them.
Check my comparison below(On Snap Camera, LG mode and noise reduction enabled):
https://yadi.sk/d/wEn4oOTw3JxEik
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Hi, I also miss the superior quality of camera from stock ROM. I was trying to follow some tutorials on porting vendor apps to AOSP (getting the camera apk file, some libraries, framework files and permission files and compiling them all together), but it never worked with the camera. Sadly, I'm pretty sure that if it was possible, somebody smarter would have already done it. With LG being jerks and not releasing the sources, we most likely won't get the stock camera on AOSP, ever. That being said, I can think of four possible ways of dealing with the situation.
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You know how to port the Stock Music player of Fulmics 7.5 to AOSP?
I am on Resurrection Remix 7.1.2
I was looking for best camera without any problems
Finally i installed Google Camera. Works fine
Not the best quality but is ok
vampirakos said:
I am on Resurrection Remix 7.1.2
I was looking for best camera without any problems
Finally i installed Google Camera. Works fine
Not the best quality but is ok
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Try Snap Camera, or Open Camera.
What about Snapdragon Camera? There is a versione for Nougat that we could use?
Try Footej Camera

About to get this phone and have a few questions.

Hello all. just looking for some wise advice.
1: I see a lot of talk about rooting the phone. Is the just for the installation of a custom ROM, or for better functionality? I don't need cool heavy metal ROM surfaces my desktop is all black with all buttons hidden.
2: I saw no mention of bloatware, but generally speaking, how pure of an android experience is this? Can I simply uninstall whatever programs I want?
3: Any comments on the voice activation and and ease of use?
I basically need a gutsy daily driver, with good photo capabilities, (I also take photos at night as a part of my security job at a factory, and sometimes the photos for california License plates which are white reflect a lot of light and blur out on my Motorola Moto X pure), that I can give commands to while I am driving to take pictures and make calls, and check messages.
Is this the phone ror me?
Thanks!
1)Stock Rom behave as good as any custom rom. Most of the time people root their phone to have extra permission they may need to run apps that need it
2)You can remove every single piece of bloatware using ADB, no root needed
3)Works fine and is quite fast
Photos on stock rom are not Flagship level but neither crap.
For good photo capabilities I suggest you to use google camera with camera2 api enabled. The best way to achieve this is with magisk I think since with it you can hide root from various apps too while be able to enable camera2 api. But beware you should be on a firmware that a patch is available to make gcam working with it (library things.. Xiaomi changes things there a lot).
Or maybe you'd prefer a china based miui rom since the stock cam quality is better on china firmware. But for that prefer roms like xiaomi eu (because the stock china miui is in chinese and apps are default chinese apps)

Question AOSP vs MIUI based ROMs

I tried searching this forum before asking, so forgive me if someone has already asked this before. I want opinions from users who tried both AOSP and MIUI based ROMs. I wanted to know which is more stable/feature rich and better. If you hate or are strongly against MIUI and hence will never use it that is fine, but I am more interested in those who don't have such a negative opinion of MIUI and I want an honest and fair comparison of the two types of ROMs.
I am currently on ArrowOS and it is pretty decent. However, it does have some minor bugs and inconveniences. The main one is that the default Google phone app has issues with incoming calls - I cannot hear the other person on incoming calls until I activate speakerphone. Also, I believe some features are missing in AOSP based ROMs such as Dolby audio, and some other niche features. Also, it is quite unfortunate that AOSP based ROMs cannot take full advantage of the cameras and are limited to 12 Megapixels only and some camera features are missing.
Now, I wanted to know if I can have full camera functionality in MIUI based ROMs? Does it also have the same kind of incoming call bug? And lastly, can I still install GCam on MIUI based ROMs and get the best of both worlds, that is use MIUI camera app and GCam as well? Your advice and suggestions will be greatly appreciated!
I'm gonna copy>paste my answer from another thread:
This answer probably is going to sound harsh, but it is truth (at least for me hahaha).
I've tried literally every custom rom from here (and also a few ones that are baked outside XDA, i.e. HOS, the Android 12 build, etc) and yeah, not even one custom rom gets near the stability, compatibility and battery life of MIUI.
I don't like MIUI at all, but the battery consuption and stability is the best to be used as a daily driver. I hate when I want to do something on my daily basis and then I fail to do it because I'm using a custom rom, for example: bluetooth issues when connecting the phone with my car, video calls having audio issues, low volume on calls, etc) or just taking a photo.
MIUI covers all those little points, and at the end of the day, is the only rom that fullfill all my needs. I personally use eu (the weekly release), as it is just an optimized version of MIUI, but yeah, I still dream on the day that a custom rom gets to the same level of stability and compatibility as MIUI. I TRULY love pixel like roms, but I just don't wan't to sacrifice stability or just simply downgrade the cam quality just for that.
And if I really need to chose a custom rom, I'll pick Lineage, it's the best custom rom out there, has awesome battery life, extra features and the rom/mantainers are not just going to stop developing the weekly nightlies just because they get tired of it. On second place there is HOS, the only issue with HOS that I had is that the thermals of my phone gets real high when I play games (this does not happen with other roms).
=)
Here's the thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/best-custom-rom.4275947/page-6
Kimbaroth said:
I'm gonna copy>paste my answer from another thread:
This answer probably is going to sound harsh, but it is truth (at least for me hahaha).
I've tried literally every custom rom from here (and also a few ones that are baked outside XDA, i.e. HOS, the Android 12 build, etc) and yeah, not even one custom rom gets near the stability, compatibility and battery life of MIUI.
I don't like MIUI at all, but the battery consuption and stability is the best to be used as a daily driver. I hate when I want to do something on my daily basis and then I fail to do it because I'm using a custom rom, for example: bluetooth issues when connecting the phone with my car, video calls having audio issues, low volume on calls, etc) or just taking a photo.
MIUI covers all those little points, and at the end of the day, is the only rom that fullfill all my needs. I personally use eu (the weekly release), as it is just an optimized version of MIUI, but yeah, I still dream on the day that a custom rom gets to the same level of stability and compatibility as MIUI. I TRULY love pixel like roms, but I just don't wan't to sacrifice stability or just simply downgrade the cam quality just for that.
And if I really need to chose a custom rom, I'll pick Lineage, it's the best custom rom out there, has awesome battery life, extra features and the rom/mantainers are not just going to stop developing the weekly nightlies just because they get tired of it. On second place there is HOS, the only issue with HOS that I had is that the thermals of my phone gets real high when I play games (this does not happen with other roms).
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Here's the thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/best-custom-rom.4275947/page-6
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Thanks for the reply! Yes I read your post on that other thread as well and it was a very good post. I feel that your observation is accurate. MIUI based ROMs seem to give us the most stability and feature set. Unfortunately AOSP ROMs have things lacking that MIUI ROMs have by default like the Camera. I think this is making me inclined to install a MIUI ROM I guess.
A quick follow up question: Can I install GCam on the Xiaomi.eu ROM? The only feature I want from GCam is the "photosphere" mode.
litetaker said:
A quick follow up question: Can I install GCam on the Xiaomi.eu ROM? The only feature I want from GCam is the "photosphere" mode.
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You can try that by yourself, there are a lot of gcam variants, better download a couple of them and try one by one: https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/
litetaker said:
I tried searching this forum before asking, so forgive me if someone has already asked this before. I want opinions from users who tried both AOSP and MIUI based ROMs. I wanted to know which is more stable/feature rich and better. If you hate or are strongly against MIUI and hence will never use it that is fine, but I am more interested in those who don't have such a negative opinion of MIUI and I want an honest and fair comparison of the two types of ROMs.
I am currently on ArrowOS and it is pretty decent. However, it does have some minor bugs and inconveniences. The main one is that the default Google phone app has issues with incoming calls - I cannot hear the other person on incoming calls until I activate speakerphone. Also, I believe some features are missing in AOSP based ROMs such as Dolby audio, and some other niche features. Also, it is quite unfortunate that AOSP based ROMs cannot take full advantage of the cameras and are limited to 12 Megapixels only and some camera features are missing.
Now, I wanted to know if I can have full camera functionality in MIUI based ROMs? Does it also have the same kind of incoming call bug? And lastly, can I still install GCam on MIUI based ROMs and get the best of both worlds, that is use MIUI camera app and GCam as well? Your advice and suggestions will be greatly appreciated!
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Overall, I'd also rather have Vanilla Android.
But I do like Xiaomi's added permission-manager, which restricts Apps further, Dolby Atmos (Much better than Moto Dolby, and Razer Dolby in AOSP ROMs), and the MIUI Camera App.
Yes, you can use Gcam on MIUI as well. The ports have gotten good.
Recommended Stable Google Camera Port Versions
A list of suggested / recommended and known to be stable Google Camera apks.
www.celsoazevedo.com
BSG GCam APKs - Google Camera Port
Modified Google Camera app by BSG.
www.celsoazevedo.com
Arnova8G2 GCam APKs - Google Camera Port
Modified Google Camera app by Arnova8G2.
www.celsoazevedo.com
Arnova8G2 (Beta) GCam APKs - Google Camera Port
Modified Google Camera app by Arnova8G2 (Beta).
www.celsoazevedo.com
Calling works normal on MIUI. Call Recording too.
litetaker said:
I tried searching this forum before asking, so forgive me if someone has already asked this before. I want opinions from users who tried both AOSP and MIUI based ROMs. I wanted to know which is more stable/feature rich and better. If you hate or are strongly against MIUI and hence will never use it that is fine, but I am more interested in those who don't have such a negative opinion of MIUI and I want an honest and fair comparison of the two types of ROMs.
I am currently on ArrowOS and it is pretty decent. However, it does have some minor bugs and inconveniences. The main one is that the default Google phone app has issues with incoming calls - I cannot hear the other person on incoming calls until I activate speakerphone. Also, I believe some features are missing in AOSP based ROMs such as Dolby audio, and some other niche features. Also, it is quite unfortunate that AOSP based ROMs cannot take full advantage of the cameras and are limited to 12 Megapixels only and some camera features are missing.
Now, I wanted to know if I can have full camera functionality in MIUI based ROMs? Does it also have the same kind of incoming call bug? And lastly, can I still install GCam on MIUI based ROMs and get the best of both worlds, that is use MIUI camera app and GCam as well? Your advice and suggestions will be greatly appreciated!
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i've used most of custom roms and just like the user above, I switched back to miui (weekly xiaomi eu). I found some annoying issues in every single rom, like random reboots while using LTE, and high idle batery drain.
Aosp roms are more clean and smooth, but they lack of the stability of Miui and some features like the MEMC, dobly, game mode, etc.
So, in the mean time I will stay on miui
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i've used most of custom roms and just like the user above, I switched back to miui (weekly xiaomi eu). I found many issues in every single rom, like random reboots while using LTE, and high idle batery drain.
Aosp roms are more clean and smooth, but they lack of the stability of Miui and some features like the MEMC, dobly, game mode, etc.
So, in the mean time I will stay on miui
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I'm also on Xiaomi.eu Weekly. I've seen your question here on XDA about the random reboots, but I don't know a solution to your problem.
I've only stayed on a single AOSP ROM for max. 2 days before switching to other AOSP ROMs, but I only experienced 1 crash during Android Setup, I think.
I only used 4G/LTE internet, no calls as far as I know.
I tried many aosp custom roms and went back to stock Miui. High end phones have extra features like Dolby atmos which improves sound quality a lot and no custom rom sounds as good as Miui, and some very useful built in features like timing AOD which is very convenient,... I feel like Aosp custom roms would be better for mid range phone like Redmi notes, Poco F3 is powerful enough to be smooth even in Miui
Hey,
I just switched to MiuiMiX, most things are great. But there are some things that are missing, and I hope you can help me .
First, the most important thing, navigation gestures with third party launcher. Is there an efficient way to make gestures works with third party launcher (I use Niagara Launcher, and it worked great with AOSP ROMs), I tried many things, but none worked or in a bad way, annoying to use the stock launcher while I paid for Niagara launcher which is perfect for me. The other problems aren't really caused by MIUI, or I just need some adaptation, or else...
Otherwise, what do you recommend for MIUI based ROM ?
I don't care a whole lot for the Xiaomi Miui based roms to clunky to bloated and slow compared to lets say Arrow is clean fast and battery life is much better , even Xiaomi.eu version is bloated in my opinion, themes , miui music app and video and the the built in Avast scanner all crap! but to each his own .
jefffrom said:
I don't care a whole lot for the Xiaomi Miui based roms to clunky to bloated and slow compared to lets say Arrow is clean fast and battery life is much better , even Xiaomi.eu version is bloated in my opinion, themes , miui music app and video and the the built in Avast scanner all crap! but to each his own .
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That is a fair point but overall I still find MIUI to be the better ROM than AOSP ROMs.
I agree that MIUI has more bloat and a lot more pre-installed system apps. But I don't think it is slow at all. It is absolutely snappy and just as fast as AOSP ROMs. Battery life, I personally do not see any significant difference between the two. In fact I probably experienced more idle battery drain on ArrowOS and sometimes the phone was unable to go into deep sleep mode on ArrowOS.
But the main reason I prefer MIUI ROMs compared to AOSP even though my previous phone was a Pixel 2 and I really appreciate clean stock Android is because a lot of features are lost when I go to AOSP ROMs that I cannot justify it! Why use a ROM that takes away a lot of the features that came with the phone? I paid for all those features and I would like to use them.
For me camera is very very important and I was undewhelmed by GCam. I really wanted the proper functionality of stock MIUI camera. And the good news is I can install GCam on MIUI ROMs too to get the best of both worlds!
For me, the following is a small selection of features that are better on MIUI ROMs than AOSP:
Better Camera; there is no sound issue with incoming calls (was a problem on ArrowOS), better screen recorder features with floating controls, better screen casting functionality, useful built-in apps like voice recorder, notes, compass, weather app, also the calculator app and clock app are better and more feature rich than Google's equivalents
You can force dark mode on apps, which is really useful for those apps that don't have dark mode or make dark mode a paid feature
Dolby Atmos, MEMC, floating windows, one handed mode and other useful features not in AOSP ROMs
I personally prefer the layout of the notification panel in MIUI more than Stock Android. In fact, I liked Samsung One UI's implementation of the notification panel more than Google's stock implementation. Brightness slider is at the bottom to be more easily accessible, the settings icon is on the top so I do not have to expand the quick toggles to get that icon unlike in Stock Android.
And honestly, once I have the phone all setup it looks great! Nowadays Android skins are relatively mild unlike the heavy handed UIs like TouchWiz and HTC Sense of the past. Even the latest MIUI looks fairly mild and after everything is setup there is not a lot of difference compared to Stock Android in appearance. In fact it looks a bit better than the very spartan Stock Android look. Even the Settings app is nicer with the bigger icons and fonts. So I am quite happy with the Xiaomi.eu ROM.
I hope this comparison of MIUI ROM vs AOSP interface is useful to others if they want to get an overview of what you get from MIUI ROMs compared to AOSP.
litetaker said:
That is a fair point but overall I still find MIUI to be the better ROM than AOSP ROMs.
I agree that MIUI has more bloat and a lot more pre-installed system apps. But I don't think it is slow at all. It is absolutely snappy and just as fast as AOSP ROMs. Battery life, I personally do not see any significant difference between the two. In fact I probably experienced more idle battery drain on ArrowOS and sometimes the phone was unable to go into deep sleep mode on ArrowOS.
But the main reason I prefer MIUI ROMs compared to AOSP even though my previous phone was a Pixel 2 and I really appreciate clean stock Android is because a lot of features are lost when I go to AOSP ROMs that I cannot justify it! Why use a ROM that takes away a lot of the features that came with the phone? I paid for all those features and I would like to use them.
For me camera is very very important and I was undewhelmed by GCam. I really wanted the proper functionality of stock MIUI camera. And the good news is I can install GCam on MIUI ROMs too to get the best of both worlds!
For me, the following is a small selection of features that are better on MIUI ROMs than AOSP:
Better Camera; there is no sound issue with incoming calls (was a problem on ArrowOS), better screen recorder features with floating controls, better screen casting functionality, useful built-in apps like voice recorder, notes, compass, weather app, also the calculator app and clock app are better and more feature rich than Google's equivalents
You can force dark mode on apps, which is really useful for those apps that don't have dark mode or make dark mode a paid feature
Dolby Atmos, MEMC, floating windows, one handed mode and other useful features not in AOSP ROMs
I personally prefer the layout of the notification panel in MIUI more than Stock Android. In fact, I liked Samsung One UI's implementation of the notification panel more than Google's stock implementation. Brightness slider is at the bottom to be more easily accessible, the settings icon is on the top so I do not have to expand the quick toggles to get that icon unlike in Stock Android.
And honestly, once I have the phone all setup it looks great! Nowadays Android skins are relatively mild unlike the heavy handed UIs like TouchWiz and HTC Sense of the past. Even the latest MIUI looks fairly mild and after everything is setup there is not a lot of difference compared to Stock Android in appearance. In fact it looks a bit better than the very spartan Stock Android look. Even the Settings app is a nicer with the bigger icons and fonts. So I am quite happy with the Xiaomi.eu ROM.
I hope this comparison of MIUI ROM vs AOSP interface is useful to others if they want to get an overview of what you get from MIUI ROMs compared to AOSP.
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Nice, I'm have some lags with MiuiMiX... And MIUI is still very limited with some things... It's a choice to make AOSP and MIUI have advantages and disadvantages..
litetaker said:
That is a fair point but overall I still find MIUI to be the better ROM than AOSP ROMs.
I agree that MIUI has more bloat and a lot more pre-installed system apps. But I don't think it is slow at all. It is absolutely snappy and just as fast as AOSP ROMs. Battery life, I personally do not see any significant difference between the two. In fact I probably experienced more idle battery drain on ArrowOS and sometimes the phone was unable to go into deep sleep mode on ArrowOS.
But the main reason I prefer MIUI ROMs compared to AOSP even though my previous phone was a Pixel 2 and I really appreciate clean stock Android is because a lot of features are lost when I go to AOSP ROMs that I cannot justify it! Why use a ROM that takes away a lot of the features that came with the phone? I paid for all those features and I would like to use them.
For me camera is very very important and I was undewhelmed by GCam. I really wanted the proper functionality of stock MIUI camera. And the good news is I can install GCam on MIUI ROMs too to get the best of both worlds!
For me, the following is a small selection of features that are better on MIUI ROMs than AOSP:
Better Camera; there is no sound issue with incoming calls (was a problem on ArrowOS), better screen recorder features with floating controls, better screen casting functionality, useful built-in apps like voice recorder, notes, compass, weather app, also the calculator app and clock app are better and more feature rich than Google's equivalents
You can force dark mode on apps, which is really useful for those apps that don't have dark mode or make dark mode a paid feature
Dolby Atmos, MEMC, floating windows, one handed mode and other useful features not in AOSP ROMs
I personally prefer the layout of the notification panel in MIUI more than Stock Android. In fact, I liked Samsung One UI's implementation of the notification panel more than Google's stock implementation. Brightness slider is at the bottom to be more easily accessible, the settings icon is on the top so I do not have to expand the quick toggles to get that icon unlike in Stock Android.
And honestly, once I have the phone all setup it looks great! Nowadays Android skins are relatively mild unlike the heavy handed UIs like TouchWiz and HTC Sense of the past. Even the latest MIUI looks fairly mild and after everything is setup there is not a lot of difference compared to Stock Android in appearance. In fact it looks a bit better than the very spartan Stock Android look. Even the Settings app is nicer with the bigger icons and fonts. So I am quite happy with the Xiaomi.eu ROM.
I hope this comparison of MIUI ROM vs AOSP interface is useful to others if they want to get an overview of what you get from MIUI ROMs compared to AOSP.
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some very valid points my friend but you got to ask yourself do the positives outweigh the negatives ? I will agree miss the stock camera and Atmos but dam everything else just works better..I just can't deal with the bloat of the stock rom.
jefffrom said:
some very valid points my friend but you got to ask yourself do the positives outweigh the negatives ? I will agree miss the stock camera and Atmos but dam everything else just works better..I just can't deal with the bloat of the stock rom.
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I have hidden away the bloat completely. I don't see any major negatives with this ROM so far.
In my opinion, if you want to save some time then don't think about flashing custom ROM in the initial days of purchase. Just stick with preloaded stock ROM so that you can enjoy the fancy features which lure you into buying that phone. Flashing is an addiction after some time and there are tons of ROMs which get regular updates that will keep busy in flashing ROMs. I think the thumb rule should be to wait until 1 year (typical warranty period and end of regular update cycle from OEM) before flashing any custom ROMs. After that, you will definitely enjoy ASOP ROMs.
I always go away from miui due to security and privacy concerns + the bloated applications and the ads. I have found ARROWOS and HOS to be working the best on PocoF3, keep in mind miui has higher antutu scores because it has a specific profile for bench-marking called "nolimit"
Noe367 said:
Hey,
I just switched to MiuiMiX, most things are great. But there are some things that are missing, and I hope you can help me .
First, the most important thing, navigation gestures with third party launcher. Is there an efficient way to make gestures works with third party launcher (I use Niagara Launcher, and it worked great with AOSP ROMs), I tried many things, but none worked or in a bad way, annoying to use the stock launcher while I paid for Niagara launcher which is perfect for me. The other problems aren't really caused by MIUI, or I just need some adaptation, or else...
Otherwise, what do you recommend for MIUI based ROM ?
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There is a guide thread open on how to use gestures with any launcher, you need magisk, and Nav Remover Module
ketanmore said:
In my opinion, if you want to save some time then don't think about flashing custom ROM in the initial days of purchase. Just stick with preloaded stock ROM so that you can enjoy the fancy features which lure you into buying that phone. Flashing is an addiction after some time and there are tons of ROMs which get regular updates that will keep busy in flashing ROMs. I think the thumb rule should be to wait until 1 year (typical warranty period and end of regular update cycle from OEM) before flashing any custom ROMs. After that, you will definitely enjoy ASOP ROMs.
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Many Roms have semi automated updates. Arrow for example has 1 button to check for an update and then pops another to install the available update. That's it, everything is done in the background, you can use your phone as usual. Restart whenever it's convenient for you and you are done. Just like in stock MIUI
Zimmster said:
Many Roms have semi automated updates. Arrow for example has 1 button to check for an update and then pops another to install the available update. That's it, everything is done in the background, you can use your phone as usual. Restart whenever it's convenient for you and you are done. Just like in stock MIUI
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Is it straightforward to install updates for ArrowOS with Magisk root? Or will it block updates or something?

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