Hi there!
I am about to upgrade to Lollipop, two good months after it's officially out for our M8s. Unless I missed something, the wonderful s2s module seems to be discontinued and I am desperately looking for an alternative.
There are a lot of apps around that let you lock the screen reacting to gestures or just by launching them, but all of them are implemented by using the "Lock screen" device administrator, which literally locks the screen. This means that if you need your phone 10 seconds later, you have to unlock with your pattern or PIN again. This seems to be because of an intentional restriction in Android, and I couldn't find any root application circumventing it.
I found this Xposed module, but people write in the thread that it doesn't work with Xposed for Lollipop.
Does anybody have a better solution? Did you all give up the possibility of sleeping your phone with a gesture without locking it?
On body detection works good for that. Phone won't lock if you set a pin until you place it down for a few minutes.
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Cool, I didn't know of this feature! Thanks!
But does this really solve the problem? If an app with device administrator permissions explicitly locks the screen I guess it will be locked anyway, won't it?
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I asked similar question in the main forum, that I would like to know can this tool help the "sleeping issue".
This app can bypass the lock screen when returning from sleeping, so this is not for who wants to use password lock.
Hmmm.. good question. I'll try and get it and find out!
Sleep issue has been fixed. We should see the update this week.
Well, you can set your Thrive to not have a lock screen natively. There's no need for another app.
And no, it doesn't help with the sleep issue. I've had my lockscreen deactivated since day one and still had the issue. It's an issue with the sleep state that causes it. Advanced WiFi Lock (which allows the screen to turn off, but actually prevents the tablet from going to sleep) was the only thing that prevented the SOD for me.
But rushless is right. There's an update coming that will fix it soon.
Just curious about what kind of security people use to unlock their phones. I played with the face unlock when I first got the GN but eventually got too impatient. I'm trying to decide if continuing to "Improve face matching" will eventually make it fast almost every time, or if I should just go ahead and switch to pattern or pin.
If you lock your phone, I found face unlock minimize touching the screen and thus less blur on screen
But sometimes I feel face unlock delay my logging into the phone in case I want to do something quick.... I still prefer pattern unlock
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I used to have no pin because I like the stock lockscreen and being able to put SMS phone etc in the slide to unlock. Now that aokp has the option for both I use pin and lockscreen. Feels like iPhone lock exactly
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I use pattern..but not for security reasons at all. I got tired of pocket dialing people.
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Pin. When you think of the personal information on a smartphone it is a little scary. I have droidlost installed for added protection, but I'll only use a pin because anything else is just to insecure. Most pattern locks can be guessed by smudges on the screen in just a few attempts. Face unlock can be cracked with a bad facebook pic.
While face unlock can be hacked with a picture, no one that finds your lost phone is going to know what you look like. I always thought that was an interesting criticism of the face unlock. My friends might be able to hack into my phone, but that's not really who I'm trying to secure it from.
I also used to only use slide, but I have recently become more and more aware of how much information is available to anyone holding my phone. I think identity theft would be pretty easy if I lost it
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Pin. When you think of the personal information on a smartphone it is a little scary. I have droidlost installed for added protection, but I'll only use a pin because anything else is just to insecure. Most pattern locks can be guessed by smudges on the screen in just a few attempts. Face unlock can be cracked with a bad facebook pic.
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Yeah, pin and password are the only two that are very secure, but I just use slide. My mentality is, I'd be much more concerned if someone got ahold of my wallet with all my cash, ids, cards, etc, but I don't put a lock on that. I just keep it with me all the time, same as my phone. I've never lost either and don't plan to! But I do have SeekDroid just in case.
Face Unlock, just so that when I get into the homescreen, JuiceDefender has turn on my Data Connection. Oh, and too impress friends too
Face Unlock.
It is much better than nothing and I don't want to key in the PIN every time the screen is locked.
I never carry my own photo with me other than the one on my driver license which I confirmed would not unlock my phone. So I don't see why people say Face Unlock is useless.
I use a pattern, get it wrong and I have a picture of you emailed to me.
I used slide to unlocked before I installed cerberus, might as well use the features.
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While face unlock can be hacked with a picture, no one that finds your lost phone is going to know what you look like. I always thought that was an interesting criticism of the face unlock. My friends might be able to hack into my phone, but that's not really who I'm trying to secure it from.
I also used to only use slide, but I have recently become more and more aware of how much information is available to anyone holding my phone. I think identity theft would be pretty easy if I lost it
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Actually it would be very easy to find out. Most lockscreens will splash contact information. If you find my phone you will have my name, work phone number, and multiple email addresses. That is at least three ways to google and find pictures for most people. I would argue that this is the most insecure method possible to lock up your device.
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str355 said:
I use a pattern, get it wrong and I have a picture of you emailed to me.
I used slide to unlocked before I installed cerberus, might as well use the features.
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how do you get the phone to send you the pic?
I like to use the pattern, but it gets annoying when I'm just sitting at home texting back and forth, as I have to unlock it every single time. I end up turning the security off lol. Sometimes I'm good and turn it back on when I leave the house.
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how do you get the phone to send you the pic?
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It's the cerberus app.
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Actually it would be very easy to find out. Most lockscreens will splash contact information. If you find my phone you will have my name, work phone number, and multiple email addresses. That is at least three ways to google and find pictures for most people. I would argue that this is the most insecure method possible to lock up your device.
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After enabling Face Unlock, when I touch the power button, I can only see the date, time, and the network name. There is no personal information at all.
Amowagou said:
After enabling Face Unlock, when I touch the power button, I can only see the date, time, and the network name. There is no personal information at all.
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Under security settings click 'Owner info' to turn it on. Shows whatever message you want to the hopefully honest person who finds your phone. Only hitch is that if the phone is plugged in it just says "charging xx%" rather than the message. Don't know if that is a bug or if Google just figured that if your phone is plugged in it is probably not lost.
I'm using a PIN because I installed unlock with WiFi and it requires it. When I'm on a registered WiFi network I just slide to unlock.
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Pin. When you think of the personal information on a smartphone it is a little scary. I have droidlost installed for added protection, but I'll only use a pin because anything else is just to insecure. Most pattern locks can be guessed by smudges on the screen in just a few attempts. Face unlock can be cracked with a bad facebook pic.
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also, i feel that pattern unlock can be easily seen & remembered by people standing behind you even from quite a distance, as compared to pin/password lock
No. I'm ugly enough and don't need to be reminded of it constantly.
Neat trick though.
i wish there is a slide --> pattern unlock. i want the quick camera access and pattern
This has been discussed before, but hasn't been talked about for Marshmallow. Plus everything about this seems abandoned. It is quite unfortunate. It is very convenient to be able unlock my phone just by putting it over a nfc tag. I was able to do this on kitkat with an xposed module, but since development stopped on that module, it hasn't been possible. The module allowed me to scan an nfc tag while the screen was off and Tasker would dismiss the passcode and lockscreen. It would unlock directly to the home screen. If nobody else has any idea on how to do this, I guess I can try learning xposed and continue development on that module, but it definitely seems over my head since I've never made an xposed module before.
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This has been discussed before, but hasn't been talked about for Marshmallow. Plus everything about this seems abandoned. It is quite unfortunate. It is very convenient to be able unlock my phone just by putting it over a nfc tag. I was able to do this on kitkat with an xposed module, but since development stopped on that module, it hasn't been possible. The module allowed me to scan an nfc tag while the screen was off and Tasker would dismiss the passcode and lockscreen. It would unlock directly to the home screen. If nobody else has any idea on how to do this, I guess I can try learning xposed and continue development on that module, but it definitely seems over my head since I've never made an xposed module before.
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seconding this.
I used it to turn off or on my Hue Lights! THAT was the way its supposed to work, the closest I had to flipping the switch
Hi to everyone
After the latest update which was the security patch from october, my Z Play has a Bug. Locking screen was set to unlock from fingerprint or pin code. After the update screen can be unlocked just simply swiping it or with fingerprint. Do someone know how this problem can be fixed? It is really awkward. Thanks
Do you have on body detection active?
I thought that this is serious bug, but I completely forgotten that I had activated OBD which can activate phone if it "sense" that it is in your hands...
It's not enabled anything like that in settings.
And it can be unlocked by anyone, at least 2 of my college mates without anything enabled by/for them.
I have same problem !!
So what to do ? After a restart it works then fails
Unless I'm missing the point of smart lock. Pressing the unlock button and/or using your fingerprint takes the same amount of time and effort.
Am I missing the obvious? Smartlock seems useless
Hand76 said:
Unless I'm missing the point of smart lock. Pressing the unlock button and/or using your fingerprint takes the same amount of time and effort.
Am I missing the obvious? Smartlock seems useless
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When I'm home, I just push the button with my right thumb and swipe up with my left index finger, and I'm in.
it's instantaneous
Easy Peasy
Hand76 said:
Unless I'm missing the point of smart lock. Pressing the unlock button and/or using your fingerprint takes the same amount of time and effort.
Am I missing the obvious? Smartlock seems useless
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I used for some time smartlock (because Pixel was paired with a smartband), so if it's connected, it was set to unlock in this case without password or fingerprint.
Otherwise, if we use fingerprint it take half second to unlock, so it's almost the same, but each user can decide what is more comfortable for him.
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When I'm home, I just push the button with my right thumb and swipe up with my left index finger, and I'm in.
it's instantaneous
Easy Peasy
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But you could use a fingerprint unlock and do the exact same thing in the exact same amount of time
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But you could use a fingerprint unlock and do the exact same thing in the exact same amount of time
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This is also pointless Because, we should not complain if now the fingerprint has reached a good level of speed, while, when the Pixel 6 was released many people complained because of slowness or reliability.
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This is also pointless Because, we should not complain if now the fingerprint has reached a good level of speed, while, when the Pixel 6 was released many people complained because of slowness or reliability.
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So getting back to my main point, you agree now that smart lock is useless?
I just want to make sure I'm not missing something here. I don't see the point in a lock screen if the phone is......Wait for if..... Already unlocked
Hand76 said:
So getting back to my main point, you agree now that smart lock is useless?
I just want to make sure I'm not missing something here. I don't see the point in a lock screen if the phone is......Wait for if..... Already unlocked
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You may need to use gloves or other conditions where you cannot unlock the phone, then smart-lock might be useful. But as you say, in normal condition takes almost the same time. Then what is the point? You ask to remove a function that might be useful to others? Just don't use it if you don't like.
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But you could use a fingerprint unlock and do the exact same thing in the exact same amount of time
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Except I don't use fingerprint unlock. I swipe a pattern.
So faster for me in that instance
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You may need to use gloves or other conditions where you cannot unlock the phone, then smart-lock might be useful. But as you say, in normal condition takes almost the same time. Then what is the point? You ask to remove a function that might be useful to others? Just don't use it if you don't like.
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Never said to remove anything but a lock screen on an unlocked phone.
That's not a reasonable request?
Smartlock doesn't seem to work all the time, my Pixel 5 often demands my fingerprint
V0latyle said:
Smartlock doesn't seem to work all the time, my Pixel 5 often demands my fingerprint
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Anyway through root to get rid of the lock screen when the device is in a safe unlocked state?
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Anyway through root to get rid of the lock screen when the device is in a safe unlocked state?
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I'm sure there is, I have no idea how
On a side note, Google changing the screen to wake with a single tap instead of double tap is equally annoying and leads to the screen accidentally turning on all the damn time. Including in your pocket.
This only started on Android 12. Talk about fixing something that wasn't broken
Iv never used smart lock myself
Hand76 said:
Anyway through root to get rid of the lock screen when the device is in a safe unlocked state?
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I'm sure there is, I have no idea how
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One of these methods may work gents
How can I (en-/dis-)able the lockscreen via Automate/Tasker/etc?
The usual things (integrated solutions or the many ideas I found online) do not work. I don't want to permanently disable it but I am absolutely annoyed to constantly have to unlock it while i'm just at home. I want Automate to have it off while...
forum.xda-developers.com
73sydney said:
One of these methods may work gents
How can I (en-/dis-)able the lockscreen via Automate/Tasker/etc?
The usual things (integrated solutions or the many ideas I found online) do not work. I don't want to permanently disable it but I am absolutely annoyed to constantly have to unlock it while i'm just at home. I want Automate to have it off while...
forum.xda-developers.com
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Ty so much for this.. But from his description
"You phone will never be locked"
I see how this is keeping the device unlocked (for a certain period of time) but how does the device auto lock when leaving a trusted site?
For me I have several trustes sites already with profiles made in Tasker.
My default (outside/not at home) would be where I would want my phone locked