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This app popped up on Engadget in September & instantly captured my attention.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/22/iphone-awareness-app-selectively-filters-outside-noises-into-yo/
What it does is it uses your phone's mic to allow sounds above a certain threshold through to your headphones when you're blasting your music. This would be incredibly helpful for my work, where I sometimes blast my music & don't notice when people are knocking on my cube.
Anyway, the people who developed this app said that they'd release an Android version, but they haven't released any updates since its release. Does anyone know of a similar app in the market? I've searched many times & come away empty.
Anyone interested in developing a similar app?
Thanks!
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This app popped up on Engadget in September & instantly captured my attention.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/22/iphone-awareness-app-selectively-filters-outside-noises-into-yo/
What it does is it uses your phone's mic to allow sounds above a certain threshold through to your headphones when you're blasting your music. This would be incredibly helpful for my work, where I sometimes blast my music & don't notice when people are knocking on my cube.
Anyway, the people who developed this app said that they'd release an Android version, but they haven't released any updates since its release. Does anyone know of a similar app in the market? I've searched many times & come away empty.
Anyone interested in developing a similar app?
Thanks!
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Check this out....http://www.ear-project.com/
I've tried that app, but to be honest with you, I have no idea what that is or does. It seems like it's a simple volume profile program a la AudioManager.
What I'm looking for is an app that will feed outside sounds into my headphones. Thanks!
I am interested on this, and found this thread while searching.
I've just posted a question about the feasibility of this on a Galaxy S audio dev thread.
I also emailed Essency, makers of Awareness, to ask about their Android progress.
If it can be done, and Essency don't do it, I will give it a go.
Audio capabilities on Android have been behind iPhone dramatically until 2.3 where things got better.
I doubt it will be possible to have direct monitoring of the mic working across all phones, but it should be possible to do it in the digital domain, but there may be latency compared to the iPhone version.
Update:
Example of feeding the input buffer to the playback buffer:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/...rom-microphone-to-speaker-directly-on-android
Android Awareness!
Hi Guys,
thanks for the interest in Awareness, I just want to confirm an Android version is currently in production.
I apologise for the delay, we originally intended to release an Android version last year but our developers advised at the time that it just wasn't possible to come up with one version that was compatible with all handsets.
There are 2 reasons why there is nothing comparable on the market at the moment, firstly, as easy as the concept sounds, its not that easy to implement on any handset (iOS or Android), there are quite a few technical challenges to overcome that elongate development and seriously challenges its viability from a commercial standpoint. We could have had different 9 apps in the time it took to develop Awareness...
Secondly, we applied for a worldwide patent on Awareness nearly 2 years ago to protect the significant investment and hard work that's gone into making it a reality.
So please be patient a little longer, its been a long haul for all of us but I promise you will not be disappointed with the results.
In the meantime if any of you have any suggestions or tips regarding Android, don't hesitate to get in touch, they'd be much appreciated.
Alex
It seems like there are a dozen new Android phones and tablets coming out every week from unknown manufactures. Most of these are cheap Chinese devices, but they're not all junk, and smaller manufacturers from other countries get thrown into the mix as well. Right now, any discussion of these devices ends up in the Android General forums for lack of a better home. This makes these forums quite crowded with orphaned-device-specific posts, and useful general posts hard to find.
I suggest an new forum section for off-brand or generic devices. This section should have four sub-forums: phone general, tablet general, phone development, and tablet development. This would give these low-volume devices a home and declutter Android General significantly. It may even cut down on the requests for dedicated forums for obscure devices.
Not a bad idea actually. I like it, though not sure what the admin will think. I've suggested your idea to them and linked here, so we'll see what they say
Yea, I'm going to go ahead and throw my support behind this as well. Considering there's a new Android device released every week, it seems prudent to give those few users a spot to call there own.
I also support this, especially since I'm unable to afford larger-brand products, so I own a Coby MID1125 Kyros tablet and would love for there to be space specifically for it.
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I own a Coby MID1125 Kyros tablet and would love for there to be space specifically for it.
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Just to clarify, it would be a space for your Coby and other low-volume devices as well. It should be easier for you to find coby-specific posts there though.
Nice idea. If there were any type of voting going on then I'd be raising my hand straight away. This would surely benefit both the users without specific forums and the general lurkers, like myself.
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This is a great idea, many "off-brand" or "cost-effective" device development ends up in the Android OS fora scattered randomly.
this would be a great organizational addition for future posts and back-cleaning other forums.
XDA has always been a developers forum. We add devices depending on the amount of development and how good the device is. We don't support Chinese knock devices at all as they are not official devices with official firmware versions. Half the time a Chinese knock off will state it has certain hardware and it really doesn't. Remember only recently have we even added non HTC devices.
Well the admin thought this was a good idea and will be implemented in a day or so
I created this thread as a way for everyone to get to know each other by name. We're a tight knit group of users in here, and I thought it would be appropriate for us to know each other by name. In the recent weeks, I've noticed an increase in bickering. Experience has taught me that when people know each other on a name to name basis, it creates a more personal atmosphere, where people are less likely to show disrespect to one another.
As your Moderator, my goal in the forums is to create a peaceful atmosphere, where people aren't at each other's throats. It takes away from the true purpose of XDA, and also pushes people away. Let's all work together to improve the overall atmosphere of these forums. After all, we're all here for the same reason; a passion for development, cell phones, and sharing thoughts and ideas.
I'll start, my name is Ann
My contact details are in my profile, please feel free to contact me with any questions or concerns.
Business card
I m Nour Essawy, from Cairo - Egypt, 1st Droid was HTC Desire Z , awesome device, Sense is delicious however it drains the RAM as well as the battery, Screen sunlight resistance goes for Sammy as well as performance. QWERTY + Droid is my favorite. Ex IT - Support , Ex Business solutions support , Now as Social media specialist
My name is Tyler. I'm an android vet when it comes to applying mods and roms and whatnot, but when it comes to the guts of the stuff, I'm no good. I tried compiling a build of ICS for my nook color, but even that was beyond me. This is my fifth android device. After a Moto Milestone and Droid 3, this is my first phone with an actual unlocked bootloader that I didn't have to jump through hoops to root (never buying moto again). So that's been nice. I look forward to working with you folks.
Hey guys! My name is Andrew
First Android device here in the Captivate Glide I am learning how to do the little things in Dev and hopefully in time will just continue learning ...
My name's Rohit. The captivate glide is my second android device, behind Desire HD (still have it). I owned an iPod which I messed around with, going to the roots and such. Moving to android gave me more control over the phone than I had with the iPod. I know a little about editing widgets for android as well as figuring out problems which occurs.
the name is Gabriel. Been an Android user since 2010, most of my devices are Samsung so I am comfortable flashing ROMs/Kernels for these devices. I also used Sony Ericsson and HTC devices. My device history below:
Captivate I896 & I897
HTC Desire
Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc
Samsung Infuse 4G I997R
Samsung Galaxy S2 LTE I727R
Samsung Galaxy S Glide I927R
I always stick on stock ROMs. But since I've been tied through developers' work, I have dedicated time to test their ROMs/kernels, use them until I know it is capable of being a daily driver, then go back to stock....
Santiago Console
Buenos Aires - Argentina
List of Devices:
T-Mobile G1 - SOLD
HTC Merge - SOLD
Galaxy S Glide (Rogers version of the Captivate Glide)
Alex
Berlin, Germany
I went from my, like 4 years old, HTC Dream to the Glide(which was so hard to root in comparison to the Glide). Also I like how I'm not the only one who owned a HTC Dream before <3
Hope to see some nice ROMs in the future
Hello from Fabrizio,
Rome - Italy.
Captivate Glide is my first android ever and i'm totally in love with it.
Mike from Toronto, Canada.
Had a Xperia x10 that went from 1.6 to 2.3, and got the Glide after. I still have a want for a physical qwerty. Glide is rooted and running custom OSI Mood ROM from Carpe.
I run a QA dept for a mobile app company and I have a lot of devices at my work (Nexus, Note, HTC's, Xperia's, etc..) and I still like my Glide over all of them.
I don't post much, but read a lot. I find people tend to post too much about nothing.
I also have an Asus Prime.
Looking forward to having ICS come out!
Darian
from South Carolina, USA
This is my first Android Device. I'm enamored with the flexibility of both the OS and the hardware.
Previous devices of any importance were a WinMo 6.5 LG eXpo and before that a feature phone LG Vu, over the course of the past 7 years. This community is important to me from both a support and a customizing aspect. Thanks!
Hi, I'm Austin... From Fredericktown Mo USA
This is MY second android device (not counting the two of my parents)
I had,
Iphone 3g (horrible)
HTC aria (awesome little thing)
Traded that for iphone 3gs
Traded that for my glide
I also have a Samsung Captivate and Moto Atrix 4g in my family...
I try not to post too much, but if there's a question that I have, or someone has a question that I have the answer to, I'm not shy.
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Darian
from South Carolina, USA
This is my first Android Device. I'm enamored with the flexibility of both the OS and the hardware.
Previous devices of any importance were a WinMo 6.5 LG eXpo and before that a feature phone LG Vu, over the course of the past 7 years. This community is important to me from both a support and a customizing aspect. Thanks!
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Haha! LG vu. I had that phone... It was a pretty cool little device! (ever notice that the scrolling was backward?)
I had an android like ui on my vu.
Its cool to see that other people had that phone too.
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Hi All. My Name Is John and I live in Montreal Canada.
I used to have a Samsung Omnia running Windows 6.1 Phone and before that an Axim X51V. Got Tired of crappy touch screens so I told myself I needed a Physical Keyboard so Hello Glide!
I also work in QA for a Computer company Though I deal in the Microsoft Certification of our drivers.
I installed a Rom on my X51V from XDA many years ago and now with my Glide. I like learning how things work and would like to get into making some Roms as I do have some programming skills but I have never done anything like this. I downloaded the Development kit but I am not sure how to use It I am used to Windows Visual Studio for Work.
Hey there
Hello everyone, the name's Alexander.
The Glide is my first real android device. I previously used hand-me-downs, most notably an HTC Kaiser. Before that an HTC Wizard. On the Wizard I used custom ROMs from XDA, and on the Kaiser I was able to run Android thanks to the great work of the developers here!
I have a background in communication & multimedia design, and have been a bit of a whiz-kid for as long as I can remember. I don't know anything solid about the nuts and bolts of Android specifically, and consider myself much more a tinkerer and designer rather than any kind of developer. So all I can offer are tips and suggestions on making the user experience better through theming, widgets, and so on. On the technical side I can hold my own, but generally with Android consider what I say as "good guesses" unless otherwise stated!
I can, however, really understand the excitement AND frustration that go along with any development-process. In part due to my own experience, but also second-hand as many of my friends are computer engineers.
I hope to be of some help to the lovely folks here at XDA!
Hi, Salaam, my name is Muzammil, living in Ajman, United Arab Emirates.
Samsung Captivate Glide is my first Android device, also bought the Galaxy S II, but that's mom's phone.
Have pretty much single handedly maintained this phone's Wikipedia article, with photos and text. If anyone wants to make it better, please contribute
Appaware
http://appaware.com/user/4f64a47681188edb4600016f
LinkedIn
http://www.linkedin.com/in/mmuzammils
Google+
https://plus.google.com/115055220406235410003/about
Hi, Shalom, my name is Itai from Israel.
I don't have the phone of yet but hope to get it really soon.
I'm using my Nokia N97 and want to change real bad
Hello, This is Vinay, from Bangalore - India.
Captivate Glide is my first Android Phone and very happy with the device from past 6 months.
I am basically an Mechanical Engineer. I am not into programming and writing codes.
Am ready to try and feedback on the Mods/kernels/Roms that the Developers are ready to offer to the XDA Community.
I can understand the work, time and patience that the ppl put across in any development process. Appreciate the work guys!!
Heavily try different App's widgets available in the market.
I can support in general usage issues and suggestions.
Always happy to learn and share.
Hey guys, Paul from London here.
Had my AT&T branded Captivate Glide for a few weeks now. Really like it lots, although I'm itching for some ICS action, but have so far managed to hold out from rooting and flashing it just yet due to the possible official upgrade
Its my third Android device my last being a Motorola Milestone that I had overclocked and flashed a few ROMs on. Ended up running CM7 in the end which I was pleased with, although the battery life left me wanting.
Backflip anyone?
Harry from NJ here. Upgraded to Cappy Glide from the Motorola Backflip running CM7. The Backflip had a great keyboard but was was slow and old (like me!).
Anyone else had a Backflip?
Hey all. Not new to android at all, but new to HTC brand. My new friends jollywhitefoot and ielvis helped me get rooted with almost no problem day 1 ownership a couple weeks ago and I haven't had any operational problems. Loving the new phone!
Now my next issue, and luckily the only other one for the moment. Being a historical Sammy owner, my wife & kids gave me an awesome Gear S watch for Father's Day. I did quite a bit of reading and really thought it wasn't a huge deal to make it work on non-Samsung for those of us who understand rooting & file modifying. Almost all of my attempts came from here, especially paying attention to post #'s 212 & 227 as those were referenced tons in the ongoing comments thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gear-s/general/tutorial-install-gear-manager-connect-t2934307
Unfortunately, I simply can't get it to connect at all. I am still within the return window for the watch, but [A] I love it and it was a nice family gift. Has anyone come across a specific set of step-by-step instructions for the latest rev of the M9? I'm guessing there have just been some firmware & OS upgrades over time as that original thread is quite old. Advice??
Thanks again in advance.
~Vol
Probably best to hang out in that thread. I know from past experience that these kinds of things take time and experimentation. When S-Voice first came out, people were trying to get it to work on other phones, and it would work for a while, then Samsung would patch it so it didn't. Like Apple, they seem to prefer to keep you in their walled garden in they can.
First time I'm leading such a thing so mods, if there's a better way to lead people to the right thread, please let me know!
I've started a XZ1 & XZ1 Compact bounty thread for getting a reward pool up for anyone who can find a locked bootloader root method, TA backup & restore method or any other way to root and retain DRM features. Thought it would be great to have the bounty in a single thread for both the normal size XZ1 and XZ1 Compact since both models are very similar and obtaining root usually comes in pairs anyway since the Z1 and Z3 days.
Aside from the XZ1 and XZ1 Compact having great on-paper specs and being very appealing, I'm also fed up that the latest Xperia model where root and retain DRM is possible is the 1 year old XZ!! I'm sure some of you share the same feelings too!
When i get mine i am up for testing.
XZ1Compact is a junk i returned it sorry.
Ok, so.. this is my first time being interested in a Sony device. Long time LG user here, and I'd be all over the V30 if T-Mobile didn't lock the bootloader down. Is the purpose for this bounty solely to retain DRM keys after the bootloader unlock? I see the XZ1 is part of the Sony Open source project where they let you unlock the bootloader. I only want to root this phone for v4a and adaway.
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Is the purpose for this bounty solely to retain DRM keys after the bootloader unlock?
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Your question is answered in the thread the OP linked to, aka the bounty thread.
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Your question is answered in the thread the OP linked to, aka the bounty thread.
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My apologies. I was too vague in my original question. I was hoping for specifics pertaining to this model, the XZ1 Compact. I'm well aware of the proprietary Sony software lost by removing DRM keys. I know after several reviews I've read that the XZ1 does lack a couple of features that it's bigger brother.
Another question. If Sony has this open source platform set up specifically for developers to create ROM's based on this XZ1 Compact, why would Sony hinder the performance and features by not allowing you to keep the DRM keys when unlocking the bootloader in a simple fashion?
Please don't respond if my questions upset you. I've read the posts and I'm posting questions here because I'm genuinely interested in this.
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My apologies. I was too vague in my original question. I was hoping for specifics pertaining to this model, the XZ1 Compact. I'm well aware of the proprietary Sony software lost by removing DRM keys. I know after several reviews I've read that the XZ1 does lack a couple of features that it's bigger brother.
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Can you elaborate on what you want to know? You said you are already aware of feature loss, so what sort of specifics are you talking about?
As you said, the XZ1 Compact does not have any additional features that the bigger brother XZ1 doesn't, hence whatever DRM-reliant features are lost in the absence of DRM keys on the XZ1, the same goes for the XZ1 Compact.
Sony has never really published a list of features that will be broken, they're somewhat (purposefully) vague on this part.
The bounty thread mentions some of the most prominent features that are impacted, I urge you to take a look. As I had mentioned in my previous reply, it also answers your original question regarding the scope and goal of the bounty.
Another question. If Sony has this open source platform set up specifically for developers to create ROM's based on this XZ1 Compact, why would Sony hinder the performance and features by not allowing you to keep the DRM keys when unlocking the bootloader in a simple fashion?
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That is a question only Sony knows the answer to.
However, from a purely speculative viewpoint, it seems they think that binding some of their proprietary features to DRM keys is a way of protecting their IP.
Your phone won't actually be rendered useless after losing your DRM keys per se, you just lose the ability to utilize some of their more "advanced" toys like low light noise reduction algorithms and X-Reality, which are definitely nice to have but not "essential" features.
For AOSP ROMs, for example, Sony still provides bare bone driver support for the display and camera - perfectly functional, just not exceptional.
They opened up their phones to developers in the name of mutual benefit, but of course we know that it's more for their own sake than ours.
As for the lack of DRM-bound features in an unlocked open world, I suppose it's just their way of saying those assets are off limits, and to discourage average consumers from messing with their phones and driving up the cost and complexity of support.
Then again, just think for a minute. This is Sony we're talking about. Sony history is practically made up of anti-consumer-friendly practices with locked down, proprietary everything.
Just be grateful they're even doing this open devices thing, citizen scum dear users, and pray they don't hinder it any further.
Then again, just think for a minute. This is Sony we're talking about. Sony history is practically made up of anti-consumer-friendly practices with locked down, proprietary everything.
Just be grateful they're even doing this open devices thing, citizen scum dear users, and pray they don't hinder it any further.
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Yeah, I completely agree. I only blame Apple for this. They've always been supreme dictator over iOS and I think larger companies like Samsung with their locked bootloaders on carrier phones and Verizon - which has no reason to lock theirs down are following suit because they can.
Ahh well, I appreciate your response. I just read an article the other day - the top three phones that are Dev friendly are the OnePlus 5T, Google Pixel and Huawei Mate 9. I'd go that route, but they are all larger phones. Guess I'm just hoping for something that doesn't exist (still!)
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Yeah, I completely agree. I only blame Apple for this. They've always been supreme dictator over iOS and I think larger companies like Samsung with their locked bootloaders on carrier phones and Verizon - which has no reason to lock theirs down are following suit because they can.
Ahh well, I appreciate your response. I just read an article the other day - the top three phones that are Dev friendly are the OnePlus 5T, Google Pixel and Huawei Mate 9. I'd go that route, but they are all larger phones. Guess I'm just hoping for something that doesn't exist (still!)
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I had exactly your doubts but...well its not KitKat time anymore, Android Oreo is pretty much a complete OS to me...and yeah not having adblock sucks but at least I can still use AdGuard...I'm not a teenager anymore and so I wouldn't have time to mess with my phone anyway, at least not like with my previous Nexus 5...I bought xz1 Compact and have no regrets, seriously....at this point, if not for adblock, I don't have any other reason to want to root my phone...I guess I'm getting old lol
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I had exactly your doubts but...well its not KitKat time anymore, Android Oreo is pretty much a complete OS to me...and yeah not having adblock sucks but at least I can still use AdGuard...I'm not a teenager anymore and so I wouldn't have time to mess with my phone anyway, at least not like with my previous Nexus 5...I bought xz1 Compact and have no regrets, seriously....at this point, if not for adblock, I don't have any other reason to want to root my phone...I guess I'm getting old lol
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So.. I just turned 40 this year. I've been playing around with Android phones now since the HTC Eris back in 2009 (yikes!!). I travel a lot for work and carry two pair of headphones with me. One pair of IEM's and one pair of large wireless cans. The IEM's are mostly used out of convenience and sound quality.. cans when I don't want something stuck in my ear. Anyway, the point to my rambling, is back in the Samsung days, I was introduced to something called "Voodoo Sound". It was created by a dev on XDA to manipulate the hardware settings (particularly the hardware gain) for users audio. It was amazing. The point of it was to boost the volume so you could CUT frequencies on an EQ and still keep the NORMAL volume of the phone. I see so many people on here complaining to other users about why they want to boost the volume, when that's not what they are doing at all. I fell in love and held on to old phones to keep from giving that feature up. Then, it slowly vanished and Viper4Android was released by a bunch of Chinese devs. I eventually switched over. I can't live without v4a. It makes up for the shortcomings in my IEM's.
So the problem is, with all these locked bootloader phones, I can't put v4a on the phone. I usually just keep using the older phone anyway until I can't stand the sluggish performance anymore and then start hunting for a new phone. The monkey wrench this go around is that work makes me carry an iphone as well as my personal.. so I'm trying to find an all around good phone that's compact. I got real excited about this XZ1 Compact until I saw some users complaining about battery life. I am extremely hard phone a phone battery. The 3300mah battery in the ginormous V20 I have now will last me about 6 hours while traveling on the plane, through airports, etc.
My dream phone would be a utilitarian design, waterproof, good battery, good camera, small, and rootable so I can put v4a (and prob adaway). It's crazy to me how Sony is the only manufacturer that dabbles with small phones now. Sammy tried it with the S5 mini, etc years ago, not nothing since.
Having since reading this thread is just another roadblock keeping me from going out to my local Best Buy today and just buying this phone and being done with it. I'd be worried about losing these DRM keys that effect camera performance. I love taking photos while traveling of the things I see and sharing them with family.
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Having since reading this thread is just another roadblock keeping me from going out to my local Best Buy today and just buying this phone and being done with it. I'd be worried about losing these DRM keys that effect camera performance. I love taking photos while traveling of the things I see and sharing them with family.
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It really is a douche move by Sony to render the camera completely useless after unlocking the bootloader.
Before the X-series line, at least with my own experience with the Z-series, UB affects the camera by disabling low-light noise reduction, but doesn't cause it to only take green pictures, it was still functional.
Well, the potentially good news is that a dev on XDA has created a DRM patch for the XZ Premium, which has similar platform configurations to the XZ1 and XZ1 Compact, and the dev mentioned in the bounty thread that he's working on bringing compatibility to the XZ1 family.
If you'd like, you can support him and make a donation pledge to incentivize him and/or other devs to find a solution.
Alternatively, the very same dev who created a DRM patch for the XZP also found some third party camera apps that works, presumably before he developed the fix.
See here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/xz-premium/how-to/tip-camera-fix-unlocked-rooted-sony-t3647333
Or, you can just flash a AOSP build.
Or, as you are contemplating, just skip Xperias altogether. It's a world of compromises, unfortunately.
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My dream phone would be a utilitarian design, waterproof, good battery, good camera, small, and rootable so I can put v4a (and prob adaway). It's crazy to me how Sony is the only manufacturer that dabbles with small phones now. Sammy tried it with the S5 mini, etc years ago, not nothing since.
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Nobody gets that!!!! I wanted the Z2 3 years ago but it went extinct before i bought it and now i finally bought xz1 for the same reason!! utilitarian design, waterproof, good battery, good camera, small, and rootable so I can put some other stuff. Only Sony is doing that and i get so many looks for my new phone -
Sony?? why?? wait sony still makes phones??
I am like Duh!!!
I have been using moto forever and i loved the original RAZR that came in 2011 - best size and form factor ever!!
Next to that i only liked the brick shape of sony, xz1 seems so nice for that
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My dream phone would be a utilitarian design, waterproof, good battery, good camera, small, and rootable so I can put v4a (and prob adaway). It's crazy to me how Sony is the only manufacturer that dabbles with small phones now. Sammy tried it with the S5 mini, etc years ago, not nothing since.
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Nobody gets that!!!! I wanted the Z2 3 years ago but it went extinct before i bought it and now i finally bought xz1 for the same reason!! utilitarian design, waterproof, good battery, good camera, small, and rootable so I can put some other stuff. Only Sony is doing that and i get so many looks for my new phone -
Sony?? why?? wait sony still makes phones??
I am like Duh!!!
I have been using moto forever and i loved the original RAZR that came in 2011 - best size and form factor ever!!
Next to that i only liked the brick shape of sony, xz1 seems so nice for that
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Nobody gets that!!!! I wanted the Z2 3 years ago but it went extinct before i bought it and now i finally bought xz1 for the same reason!! utilitarian design, waterproof, good battery, good camera, small, and rootable so I can put some other stuff. Only Sony is doing that and i get so many looks for my new phone -
Sony?? why?? wait sony still makes phones??
I am like Duh!!!
I have been using moto forever and i loved the original RAZR that came in 2011 - best size and form factor ever!!
Next to that i only liked the brick shape of sony, xz1 seems so nice for that
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These are my only reasons for going to iOS + jailbreaks when the iPhone 6 came out. Apple is the only one who comes out with flagship compacts year after year, Sony tries but fails with camera every year :/