After upgrading to Lollipop FOB6 firmware using full odin and then rooting and installing TWRP, I have never been able to successfully restore a backup, ever!
From reading the dev forums it seems no one else has been able to do so either. Does anyone know what the heck is going on? Is there any toggle (like compression?) that we cant use?
This is a bit of a pain but not the end of the world. Certainly makes me hesitate to mess around with new roms though if I cant go back to my solid daily without having to start from scratch.
khanam said:
After upgrading to Lollipop FOB6 firmware using full odin and then rooting and installing TWRP, I have never been able to successfully restore a backup, ever!
From reading the dev forums it seems no one else has been able to do so either. Does anyone know what the heck is going on? Is there any toggle (like compression?) that we cant use?
This is a bit of a pain but not the end of the world. Certainly makes me hesitate to mess around with new roms though if I cant go back to my solid daily without having to start from scratch.
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I think what is going on is that the directory structure in Lollipop is a little different from the one in Kitkat. To give you an example, the user installed applications in Kitkat are placed under /data/app like this:
/data/app/com.my.application.apk
But in lollipop the same app is installed as:
/dats/app/com.my.application.apk/base.apk
So a backup taken from your data partition in Kitkat cannot be readily restored in Lollipop. The directory structure is just wrong and nothing works. The solution is for someone to ether write a conversion script or for the TWRP people to incorporate such a script in their future releases.
najoor said:
I think what is going on is that the directory structure in Lollipop is a little different from the one in Kitkat. To give you an example, the user installed applications in Kitkat are placed under /data/app like this:
/data/app/com.my.application.apk
But in lollipop the same app is installed as:
/dats/app/com.my.application.apk/base.apk
So a backup taken from your data partition in Kitkat cannot be readily restored in Lollipop. The directory structure is just wrong and nothing works. The solution is for someone to ether write a conversion script or for the TWRP people to incorporate such a script in their future releases.
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Thats true - I did read about that. And that would definitely explain being unable to restore a kitkat rom.
However, I cant even restore a lollipop backup after flashing a different lollipop rom! Even if they are both derived from the same FOB6 base! That is what is even more confusing. Try it - backup, wipe all the partitions except int and ext sd of course and then try to restore... it just doesnt work!
Way I dit it just use factory reset only don't wipe anything specialy internal storage and don't use format. While restoring TWRP formats partition that been restored. I'm using TWRP 2.7.2.0
I've had no problem restoring from a TWRP Backup on Lollipop numerous times.
najoor said:
I think what is going on is that the directory structure in Lollipop is a little different from the one in Kitkat. To give you an example, the user installed applications in Kitkat are placed under /data/app like this:
/data/app/com.my.application.apk
But in lollipop the same app is installed as:
/dats/app/com.my.application.apk/base.apk
So a backup taken from your data partition in Kitkat cannot be readily restored in Lollipop. The directory structure is just wrong and nothing works. The solution is for someone to ether write a conversion script or for the TWRP people to incorporate such a script in their future releases.
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I noticed that in every folder in /data/app/ there is an apk called base and a folder lib, can i backup just the apk? Or when i need to share an apk or take an apk i need to take also rhe lib?
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I've had no problem restoring from a TWRP Backup on Lollipop numerous times.
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What is your TWRP version? Also, did you do any wipes before you fully restored a backup?
khanam said:
After upgrading to Lollipop FOB6 firmware using full odin and then rooting and installing TWRP, I have never been able to successfully restore a backup, ever!.
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Does yours ever end up losing touch screen sensitivity when you restore a backup? Mine always looks like it has fully restored everything, but then no response to screen taps.
senozlu1 said:
Way I dit it just use factory reset only don't wipe anything specialy internal storage and don't use format. While restoring TWRP formats partition that been restored. I'm using TWRP 2.7.2.0
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Oh I'll try this and report back. Thanks
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What is your TWRP version? Also, did you do any wipes before you fully restored a backup?
Does yours ever end up losing touch screen sensitivity when you restore a backup? Mine always looks like it has fully restored everything, but then no response to screen taps.
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Mine just fails. But then again I've been wiping the partitions before restoring. Maybe that impacts it?
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khanam said:
Mine just fails. But then again I've been wiping the partitions before restoring. Maybe that impacts it?
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One of the devs, who runs the Lollipop ROM I've been using, warned against restoring data. He suggested backing up apps + data through Titanium Backup instead. Maybe it depends on the ROM?
najoor said:
I think what is going on is that the directory structure in Lollipop is a little different from the one in Kitkat. To give you an example, the user installed applications in Kitkat are placed under /data/app like this:
/data/app/com.my.application.apk
But in lollipop the same app is installed as:
/dats/app/com.my.application.apk/base.apk
So a backup taken from your data partition in Kitkat cannot be readily restored in Lollipop. The directory structure is just wrong and nothing works. The solution is for someone to ether write a conversion script or for the TWRP people to incorporate such a script in their future releases.
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Hi
I have a rooted S4 running Carbon. Im using TWRP 2.8.5.0 and can backup and restore any
KK rom with no issues. I can flash Lollipop and backup but it will not restore this backup.
Its says restore successful but then just boots back into recovery. If someone could resolve
this it would be great
Hello all,
TB doesn't seem to pick up the apk file when backing up which is quite frustrating. Does anyone have a solution?
i had backup using TWRP 2.8.7.0 my stock TW lollipop rom...Now i had flashed Dirty Unicorns v9.5...If i wanted to goto stock rom that nandroid backup wont work??? thats what people are complaining over here??
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Hey guys,
I have kind of a serious issue right now. I used Touch Recovery 5.8.0.2 and made a full backup today of my whole ROM (2.5GB) before trying out some mods which eventually didn't work. So I decided to wipe and restore the backup I made. No matter what I do I cannot get it to restore my data partition properly. I keep getting "Error while restoring /data!" message, however it does the boot image and system fine but doesn't continue to cache and sd-ext because of the failed data. Whenever I boot it up, some of my apps are missing from the home screen and practically all of them are not working when I launch them (force close). I also get boot up error of Google+ force close, among a bunch of other issues. This is happening even when I try to restore an older backup as well. My device is not working state right now and although I can just restore the stock images to get it working again, it is urgent that I restore my data ASAP! I tried wiping several times and even using the non-touch 5.5.0.4 recovery to restore and same thing keeps happening.
Any help would be highly appreciated!
Please don't tell me my backup is corrupt
Update 1: Eventually I gave up and started from scratch but I have confirmed already this happened on a fresh backup as well, at this time we are trying to figure out what is causing this so I can go back to safely backing up and restoring backups.
Update 2: We have test builds of TWRP Recovery that may have resolved this issue! We need testers!
Please see this post: Link Here
Update 3: We have test builds of ClockworkMod Recovery 6 that may have resolved this issue as well! We need testers!
Please see this post: Link Here
***Always see last few posts on the thread for updates on what we discovered just in case I don't update the OP***
Unfortunately I also have the same error today!
Please help us out.
JayantSparda said:
Unfortunately I also have the same error today!
Please help us out.
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is your phone encrypted?
are you running stock recovery?
are you running a stock Rom?
have you done a factory reset yet?
Hi Spectre85,
My phone did fine yesterday, I was running AOPK Milestone 3 with FAUX123 kernel.
But when I woke up, my phone looked like it's battery was emtpy.
- When I plugged the phone with the charger, I started the phone again.
- Unfortunately my phone keep looping at the Google screen over and over.
So I pulled the battery and put the battery back again in the phone.
- I went to the bootloader and went to CWM recovery.
Deleted Data, Cache and Dalvike cache.
- Tried to retrieve my backup rom, but keep getting this "Error while restoring /data!" message.
I've tried to install other roms as well, but I still keep getting the bootloop at the Google screen.
Have you guys have any advice for me?
spectre85 said:
is your phone encrypted?
are you running stock recovery?
are you running a stock Rom?
have you done a factory reset yet?
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For me, no, no (CWM Touch 5.8.0.2), yes (stock rooted 4.0.4), no but my goal is to restore my data not erase it.
I had this happen to me before, what I did was flash a factory image through fast boot and it was fine after.
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Thanks guys..I flashed the factory image through Fastboot mode and the phone works perfectly again! Too bad I lost all my data, but I'm happier that I have my phone fully functional again
You can't access your backup right? There's no way you can copy the file to your desktop?
mohitrocks said:
You can't access your backup right? There's no way you can copy the file to your desktop?
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I did copy it. I have full access to the file. Also, just fyi my goal here is not just to get to working state (I'm aware of the stock images) but to actually recover my data. My phone is currently on stock images completely blank and working now.
Fast boot flash the nand images just like u did the stock ones.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
bwcorvus said:
Fast boot flash the nand images just like u did the stock ones.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
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Nanadroid files can be flashed in fastboot? Are you sure? First time I'm hearing this. Doesn't fastboot need .img files? These are .tar files.
Open it up and see if its image...sorry all my recoveries use images.
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bwcorvus said:
Open it up and see if its image...sorry all my recoveries use images.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
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I guess it depends on the recovery version you use. I remember older versions actually had .img files. However 5.5.0.4 and Touch 5.8.0.2 both have ext4.tar files.
Which version of recovery do you use?
If you have root, you can restore your data partition using Titanium Backup. Use "Export from Nandroid Backup" within TB, select the nandroid backup and then select all apps that you want to restore
Immix said:
If you have root, you can restore your data partition using Titanium Backup. Use "Export from Nandroid Backup" within TB, select the nandroid backup and then select all apps that you want to restore
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Interesting...will this include settings as well like my home screen icon/widget layout, wallpaper, etc?
open1your1eyes0 said:
Interesting...will this include settings as well like my home screen icon/widget layout, wallpaper, etc?
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Yes. Titanium Backup can restore all your system apps as well as downloaded apps from a nandroid backup. Not as clean as a nandroid restore from CWM but essentially the same thing. But try to see if Titanium Backup can extract your nandroid backup. It all depends on what exactly went wrong with your nandroid backup to begin with. I don't think it restores cache. So not sure about wallpaper.
Immix said:
Yes. Titanium Backup can restore all your system apps as well as downloaded apps from a nandroid backup. Not as clean as a nandroid restore from CWM but essentially the same thing. But try to see if Titanium Backup can extract your nandroid backup. It all depends on what exactly went wrong with your nandroid backup to begin with. I don't think it restores cache. So not sure about wallpaper.
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You're right. This works great for restore data to select apps (got my notes and game saves back). I think the icon layout is held in the launcher settings, I'm about to try and restore the data to the launcher app and see what happens. I'm making a CWM backup of first of my current state (that's assuming this backup will actually work).
EDIT: Yes! That did it! Widgets position weren't saved but it's ok I only had a few so I manually put them back. Thank you! I never knew TB had the ability to work with nandroid backups.
I guess this now just leaves me figuring out what went wrong with the CWM backup. It happened twice (I have two backups from the same day that won't restore). Does anyone else use CWM Touch 5.8.0.2 and have successful backups? I would experiment to see if it works now but I don't want to end up with a corrupt backup and redo everything again.
Yes with me its the same thing my data its corrupt is even worse every time I do a nanobackup and restarted my phone the phone freezes on the boot logo and I have to go back to recovery trying to use my backups but I can't so I have to flash a new from again and start from the beginning again!!!! Anybody here has the same experience with that ???
So AGAIN, I'm having the same issue. This time on a recovery 5.5.0.4 that used to work for me when I originally got my phone. I think either my data partition might be too big or something but this really needs to fixed pronto. Anyone know how to contact Koush directly in regards to this matter?
Need some help moving forward with rom installation. Have been reading and playingback guides and articles in the last few days on rooting and roms. Just rooted AT&T S3 I747 ver. 4.1.2 and have access to SU. Installed Revovery Tools from DsLNeXuS and Titanium Backup Pro. Made a backup with Recovery Tools and stopped.
I'm going back and forth between guides noticing some of them were written over a year ago. Have been using these guides below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Flashing_Guide_-_Android
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1802160
Questions. Are Recovery Tools and Titanium Backup Pro used for the same purpose? Is the toolkit below an alternative to both these tools, RT and TBP?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746665
Do I need to run RUU flashing?
Thanks.
Thanks.
Recovery backups are for if something happens to your phone you can restore phone its original sate by choosing backup from recovery.
With Titanium Backup you can backup your applications and data. Tomorrow if you install a new ROM you can just restore applications along with data from Titanium Backup.
When you flash anew ROM you will loose all your current apps and Titanium Backup is used to restore them.
Thanks. Sounds like I don't need to have both recovery programs but Titanium Backup will do.
When backing up apps is it necessary to back up all the at&t apps?
I am still at a lost with RUU. Do I still need to Flash RUU?
thanks.
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camb003 said:
Thanks. Sounds like I don't need to have both recovery programs but Titanium Backup will do.
When backing up apps is it necessary to back up all the at&t apps?
I am still at a lost with RUU. Do I still need to Flash RUU?
thanks.
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You use titanium backup for backing up apps and the associated data (logins, settings, game progress, etc). For installing custom ROM you need a custom recovery such as CWM or TWRP. Samsung stock firmware uses ODIN vice RUU.
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aybarrap1 said:
You use titanium backup for backing up apps and the associated data (logins, settings, game progress, etc). For installing custom ROM you need a custom recovery such as CWM or TWRP. Samsung stock firmware uses ODIN vice RUU.
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So I'm hearing "restoring data from one rom to another can cause problems". This will be my first rom install. I've already backed up all apps and data. Do I have to pick and choose which apps I want to restore after flashing a new rom?
Thanks in advance.
camb003 said:
So I'm hearing "restoring data from one rom to another can cause problems". This will be my first rom install. I've already backed up all apps and data. Do I have to pick and choose which apps I want to restore after flashing a new rom?
Thanks in advance.
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It could cause problems. If it occurs, it is usually when switching from a Touchwiz ROM to an AOSP ROM and vice versa. If you are going from stock TW to a custom ROM based off stock (or AOSP to AOSP), you will likely have few to no issues. App compatibility with a new android version is another matter (I.e. ICS to JB 4.2). It could happen over changes in android versions but it is not likely and even less so over minor variations (4.2 to 4.3 for example).
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camb003 said:
So I'm hearing "restoring data from one rom to another can cause problems". This will be my first rom install. I've already backed up all apps and data. Do I have to pick and choose which apps I want to restore after flashing a new rom?
Thanks in advance.
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Restoring "System" data from another ROM will usually give you problems.
Also, it might be a good idea to copy your EFS folder from the root of your phone, using a file explorer program, to your SD card or computer before you start flashing ROMs, as most people who later had data connection problems (lost their IMEI numbers) never got around to doing it.
shortydoggg said:
Restoring "System" data from another ROM will usually give you problems.
Also, it might be a good idea to copy your EFS folder from the root of your phone, using a file explorer program, to your SD card or computer before you start flashing ROMs, as most people who later had data connection problems (lost their IMEI numbers) never got around to doing it.
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Any file explorer program recommendations to copy EFS folder?
Are "custom ROM based off stock" and "Samsung based ROM" the same thing?
I am currently running AT&T Android Version 4.1.2, Baseband I747UCDMG2. Can you recommend a couple of known stable Samsung based ROMs?
On backing up apps and data. When preparing for the very fist ROM flash, does it make sense to not backup all the bloatware apps AT&T has in 4,1,2.?
Thanks in advance.
camb003 said:
Any file explorer program recommendations to copy EFS folder?
Are "custom ROM based off stock" and "Samsung based ROM" the same thing?
I am currently running AT&T Android Version 4.1.2, Baseband I747UCDMG2. Can you recommend a couple of known stable Samsung based ROMs?
On backing up apps and data. When preparing for the very fist ROM flash, does it make sense to not backup all the bloatware apps AT&T has in 4,1,2.?
Thanks in advance.
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1. Root explorer is good. But it's a paid app.
2.Yes
3. S3Rx, Dandroid, Intergalactic, and Graviton are some excellent touchwiz ROMs.
4. Do not restore system apps!!
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DMF1977 said:
1. Root explorer is good. But it's a paid app.
2.Yes
3. S3Rx, Dandroid, Intergalactic, and Graviton are some excellent touchwiz ROMs.
4. Do not restore system apps!!
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Thanks.
I currently have Recovery Tools, Titanium Backup and ROM Manager installed.
Do Recovery Tools ans ROM Manager do the pretty much the same thing? I see a lot of info for ROM manager. Will I be able to do everything by keeping only one(ROM Manager?)?
Is it better to always flash from external SD card instead of internal?
Slim Bean
Figured it out. Running Slim Bean 4.2.2.build.8-OFFICIAL. Don't think I can ever go back. Well worth contribution to developer.
So I'm updating to the latest version of the @Danvdh AOSP GPE ROM, and I want to know / make sure this is the right / best way.
got the latest version of the ROM and flashing w TWRP,
so I made a Nandroid backup, and I backed up all my apps w TiBU (Titanium Backup),
Next I would do a full wipe (system & delvic), flash the new rom, then restore all my apps with TiBU right?
What about the system settings? is there a way to back them up so that I can just "restore" them.
If I make a full backup with TiBU and restore it would it attempt to restore the previous version of the ROM, or would because they are diff versions would it just fail? Or is it something I just have to reset everything. And obviously I have to redo my screens and stuff,
Is there any way to save my settings for gravity box and xposed framework?
and feel free to inform me of anything else I want to make sure to do, no matter how obvious it may seem.
This is my only device so I need to make sure I get it right the first time and as quickly as possible.
Thanks.
MoodSwinger
BTW I posted this in "general" on purpose hoping it would be useful for anyone else updating or clean flashing betw ROMs
For titanium backup, if your mods are in xposed and gravity box, backing up with titanium backup will retain all the settings in those apps, so once you restore them, everything will be back the way you want it. Same thing for the home screens, just back up the launcher app. I personally don't like restoring data on system apps since they tend to go awry, that's why I use a different launcher.
After you do a full wipe and clean install, you can also go back to TWRP and restore only the data from the Nandroid backup. I don't do that because, again, it might cuz unwanted bugs and more annoyance.
I dirty flashed 4.4.3 on top of my 4.4.2 rom since I was too lazy to set everything up again, and so far I haven't seen any bug. You might wanna consider that route.
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Exactly the info I was looking for thanks so much.
And just to be clear, when you say "dirty" flash, you mean just thru TWRP like you would an update.zip, or Xposed or Gravity Box, correct? just put on SD and flash and go.
Yes. Basically flash it on top of the existing software. It's usually not recommended as data may be corrupted having been overridden, but 4.4.3 is just a small update over 4.4.2 so I guess it's okay.
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I'm wondering if I can use a Nandroid backup to restore KitKat after I flash a Lollipop update in TWRP? I need KK for work apps but wanted to play with LP at home and was just wondering if a person could flip flop back and forth using Nandriod back ups.
Also while reading to research this I saw where people were having issues flashing the LP OTA from KK 4.4.4 via TWRP because of the software was being reported as the wrong version of Android (4.4.3) on the tablet. It appears that this was resolved with the updated version of TWRP so I installed the latest version 2.8.6.0.
So will this work or am I stupid for thinking it would?
thanks,
fasthair
I think just to be safe it would be better to reflash the KK firmware and then restore from the nandroid. I've never tried it, so I could be wrong. I would wait for someone with direct knowledge of the process to chime in so you don't brick.
Obviously you'd need to backup the nandroid data somewhere other than the tablet because it would be wiped when you reflash.
Another option could be using the factory images, assuming you bootloader is already unlocked (probably is if you're rooted/etc). When I upgraded from 4.4.4 to 5.0/5.0.1/5.0.2 I removed the -w flag from the batch file that wipes data. I don't know if you can use factory images to go backwards without wiping. I know you can use the factory images to go back, but not sure if you can do it without wiping.
Again, I'd wait for someone with experience chime in before trying anything if you aren't sure.
You can go back and forth no problem. Just don't mix the system and data partitions. They need to stay together. 4.4 system files with 4.4 data files.
Aerowinder said:
You can go back and forth no problem. Just don't mix the system and data partitions. They need to stay together. 4.4 system files with 4.4 data files.
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Just so I'm clear on this "don't mix data" part. The Nandroid backup will keep these data partitions separate in the separate backup folders if I'm not mistaken correct?
Thanks to both of you for the help.
fasthair
fasthair said:
Just so I'm clear on this "don't mix data" part. The Nandroid backup will keep these data partitions separate in the separate backup folders if I'm not mistaken correct?
Thanks to both of you for the help.
fasthair
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Yes it will. I meant that if you restore the system partition (from 4.4 to 5.0 or vice versa) that you need to restore data with it (and boot).
If you were on 5.0, and wanted to go back to 4.4, but only did a restore on the system partition, you will probably bootloop.
system, data, boot all must stay together.
Why not use multirom? Works flawless for me.
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pargas said:
Why not use multirom? Works flawless for me.
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I hadn't really thought about multirom to be honest.
Thanks everyone for your replies. I flashed LP after backing up my stuff. For whatever reason I couldn't get it to flash in TWRP using the update file Google pushed to my device some time back. Even after installing the latest greatest 2.8.6.0 it still came back with the error about the wrong version (4.4.3 in my case) being on my N7. So a fresh flash of LP with a wipe and I'm good to go.
Must admit I kind of like LP all though I'm not crazy about all of the white ever where or how it a takes 3 or 4 clicks to do what was 1 or 2 clicks on KK. Plus Plus I think KK was much better to look at instead of this Material Design UI but it is what it is. Going to have to go hunting around here for a transparent theme for the Google Search so I can have my transparent search bar and app drawer back. Anyone know of one?
Anyway thanks for the help everyone,
fasthair
Hi everyone. My phone doesn't boot up after restoring twrp backup. Yesterday I made a Full backup and now if I try to restore that my phone just go into a bootloop. How can I resolve this problem?
mr.banana said:
Hi everyone. My phone doesn't boot up after restoring twrp backup. Yesterday I made a Full backup and now if I try to restore that my phone just go into a bootloop. How can I resolve this problem?
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It depends on a lot of factors.
What ROM, what TWRP version, what partitions did you back up, etc.
If you want to get your phone working, you can flash any ROM of your choice from TWRP or restore stock image.
indian84 said:
It depends on a lot of factors.
What ROM, what TWRP version, what partitions did you back up, etc.
If you want to get your phone working, you can flash any ROM of your choice from TWRP or restore stock image.
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TWRP Version is the last one (I think). I backup every partition so I made a full backup of everything. The rom Is the simple aosp. I very want back all my stuff
mr.banana said:
TWRP Version is the last one (I think). I backup every partition so I made a full backup of everything. The rom Is the simple aosp. I very want back all my stuff
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Backing up all the partitions was the mistake.
Getting your stuff back looks difficult.
If you flash ROM using TWRP, your media files and anything stored on your phone won't be deleted.
But all your apps and stuff will be lost.