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Question about importing..

Ok, this is for all you guys who have imported before. i have never by the way. When the phone arrives and you insert your sim card, att/tmobile for example. will the phone automatically pick up the required signals to stay on your carrier and not roam to another? or do you have to set it to us what you want only?
Also one of the reasons i am choosing this phone is to have a phone that will be ready and capable of handling att's eventual takeover of tmobile. I would imagine that you will have to get an att sim card when that happens. But it is nice to be prepared Thanx
EDIT> NEW QUESTION ADDED....
Ok I should have asked this but it just crossed my mind.lol.. Since the phone is being imported will everything work correctly?Will I get the Us version of the market, etc?
Also is anyone else afraid of day one bugs?

yes, it's governed by the sim card. you put in an at+t sim card, it'll look for an at+t signal. same with tmobile.
eric b

Well, the T-mobile SIM card will connect you to the T-mo network. The opposite for AT&T SIM card
It has pentaband HSPA+ though, so you'll get full speed with both networks.

Lol ok, seems simple enough. What confused me was i remember on my nexus s, there was a clickable box that allowed me to switch between the two. So i figured id ask
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BiGMERF said:
Lol ok, seems simple enough. What confused me was i remember on my nexus s, there was a clickable box that allowed me to switch between the two. So i figured id ask
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I think you mean Data Roaming?
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akash3656 said:
I think you mean Data Roaming?
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Lol. Its been about 4 months since i had mines.. Isnt it under network operators?
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BiGMERF said:
Lol. Its been about 4 months since i had mines.. Isnt it under network operators?
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lol look at that picture then re-phrase your question...
And I'm sure you're thinking of just enabling data roaming. Just remember that if you're using a T-mo SIM card, your phone can't just magically start using AT&T for no reason...

BiGMERF said:
Lol. Its been about 4 months since i had mines.. Isnt it under network operators?
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Sure, you could click Network operators and see both networks listed. You would be denied from connecting to the network that doesn't match your SIM though.
Is the knownledge really so bad about GSM in the US that this seems like some kind of dark magic? It must really suck to be so controlled by the carriers whim. You can see it like terrestrial TV. When searching for channels you will pick up all channels that are broadcast (providing the signal is good enough) but you can't actually watch them unless you pay for them.

blunden said:
Sure, you could click Network operators and see both networks listed. You would be denied from connecting to the network that doesn't match your SIM though.
Is the knownledge really so bad about GSM in the US that this seems like some kind of dark magic? It must really suck to be so controlled by the carriers whim. You can see it like terrestrial TV. When searching for channels you will pick up all channels that are broadcast (providing the signal is good enough) but you can't actually watch them unless you pay for them.
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Yes, it is this bad. No one knows how it works. Not their fault, its the fact that they think that the carriers are the ones that make the phones and give them to consumers, rather than the consumers purchasing phones and using the carriers as dumb network providers.

Ok. Ok... I figured it to be that way, but i wanted to make sure. Like i said i have never imported :/
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BiGMERF said:
Ok. Ok... I figured it to be that way, but i wanted to make sure. Like i said i have never imported :/
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Just remember, it doesn't matter where in the world the phone comes from. If it supports the bands for the Network/SIM you're using, just put in your SIM and don't worry about it lol. Don't think of it as being an "international" phone. Its just a GSM phone.

BiGMERF said:
Ok, this is for all you guys who have imported before. i have never by the way. When the phone arrives and you insert your sim card, att/tmobile for example. will the phone automatically pick up the required signals to stay on your carrier and not roam to another? or do you have to set it to us what you want only?
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I was on T-mobile USA a few years ago when living in the States; started off with pre-paid and moved to a contracct plan. From what I remember, the pre-paid SIM cards don't let you roam on Cingular/AT&T but the contract SIM would. It depends on inter-carrier arrangements so it's best to ask a T-mobile rep about this.
And in doubt, I'd suggest disabling data roaming if you're in area where you can't reliably connect to your normal carrier!

hircus said:
I was on T-mobile USA a few years ago when living in the States; started off with pre-paid and moved to a contracct plan. From what I remember, the pre-paid SIM cards don't let you roam on Cingular/AT&T but the contract SIM would. It depends on inter-carrier arrangements so it's best to ask a T-mobile rep about this.
And in doubt, I'd suggest disabling data roaming if you're in area where you can't reliably connect to your normal carrier!
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There was a reason why I wasn't posting anything here. I knew stuff in US was a bit different....... So like what hircus said, ask a T-mobile rep.....
In Malaysia where I live, the only contract phones that actually sell in great numbers is the iPhone. Our contracts plans are quite bad and buying an unlocked phone and putting your own SIM card is a cheaper on the long run. Oh, (not too sure for the iPhone), in Malaysia when you buy a phone on contract, the phone is not "locked" to a specific carrier... go figure......

Ok I should have asked this but it just crossed my mind.lol.. Since the phone is being imported will everything work correctly?Will I get the Us version of the market, etc?

yes, the market is sim card dependent you'll get the US market and services (like google voice), no worries.

this is the best news for all T-MOBILE customers ever.

soon we won't have to go through all the nonsense, not having the right bands for our phones.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/23/t-mobile-lost-more-customers-in-q4-will-launch-lte-in-2013-with/

Never thought I'd see the day I would actually be able to use my Nokia E63 on 3G bands...its only 5 years late lol.
Now I'm a bit confused...if they use the AWS band for LTE, what about our phones that use AWS for HSPA+?

Our phone doesn't support att's lte but it does support 1900mhz 3g/4g
Newer Tmo phones will have lte most likely
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zander21510 said:
Never thought I'd see the day I would actually be able to use my Nokia E63 on 3G bands...its only 5 years late lol.
Now I'm a bit confused...if they use the AWS band for LTE, what about our phones that use AWS for HSPA+?
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The phones will probably use multiple bands at the same time ... hspa+ on one and LTE on another. Right now our SGS2 gets dual band hspa+

Cool deal. Although the best news ever for me, as a T-mobile customer, would be something along the lines of "Dear Loyal 10 year T-mobile customer, we are proud to inform you that your bill will be FREE forever, thank you for your continued loyalty."

I was thinking that T-Mobile have a sharing agreement with Sprint with in regards to LTE. I'm liking this plan much better with finally joining other 3G phones. I'm probably going to pick up an old 3 unlocked phone as a back up now in the near future.
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guys... you do know that LTE data packets are not the same as 3G data right?
so even if they are on 1900 radio frequency it does not mean they can get 3G 1900 on LTE 1900 and vice versa
the guy that wrote that piece of engadget was totally wrong in assuming that

yeah...I've owned a few phones, my E63 never received 3G under Tmo, it was a UMTS 850 / 1900 device, it worked with AT&T just fine. My N1 and NS were HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100; both supposedly only compatible with T-Mo's AWS. And our t989 is HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100...working with both Tmo and ATT's 3g UMTS/HSDPA/HSPA+.
LTE is a completely different technology by my understanding...if they use the AWS band for LTE...phones like the Nexus S and One would cease to work on 3g, correct?

zander21510 said:
LTE is a completely different technology by my understanding...if they use the AWS band for LTE...phones like the Nexus S and One would cease to work on 3g, correct?
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using your assumption
if they use AWS band 1700 + 2100 for LTE like they are doing in Canada (Rogers, Bell, Telus) then yes, it will mean AWS phones made for HSPA 1700 / 2100 will not work on those 3 networks
because the technology is different, and thus data packets are different, even if they are on the same radio frequency
luckily in the case of the SGH-i727 counter part of our phone, is enough to flash it with the correct modem to get HSPA AWS instead of LTE AWS
however the case with the 1900 LTE frequency, does not enable current 1900 HSPA phones to work on LTE

This is a double edged sword. It will draw 10's of thousands, if not 100's of thousands of iPhones users to T-Mo with the promise of cheaper plans. Then they will congest the network, T-Mo will raise prices to increase bandwidth and we all loose out.

Don't our T989's have LTE ready to go (for the most part)? I am trying to upload a screenshot but xda is saying it has an improper file extension... *#2263#
Angstig gepost van mijn Galaxy SII

Yes! Now i will be able to purchase and use international phones. Great news!
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gallaxxeess said:
This is a double edged sword. It will draw 10's of thousands, if not 100's of thousands of iPhones users to T-Mo with the promise of cheaper plans. Then they will congest the network, T-Mo will raise prices to increase bandwidth and we all loose out.
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but if it means I can download faster than 2mbs consistently and our 3g will be compatible with the rest of the world.... awesome

hompsar said:
Don't our T989's have LTE ready to go (for the most part)? I am trying to upload a screenshot but xda is saying it has an improper file extension... *#2263#
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no LTE is only build in on the i727 our T989 is missing the LTE chip, the i727 can run AWS when flashed with a proper Tmo radio
ugotproblemz said:
Yes! Now i will be able to purchase and use international phones. Great news!
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no, world phones are not compatible unless they have AWS 1700
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but if it means I can download faster than 2mbs consistently and our 3g will be compatible with the rest of the world.... awesome
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there will be no iPhones in Tmo until they release an AWS 1700 version of it, if ever

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Sorry, but that LTE menu is false hope. It's been researched.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1417095

Getting LTE to Work on Note 2 N7100 on ATT (Help!)

Okay, I just got a Note 2 N7100, I was using an iphone 4 before and basically swaped out the sims and HSPA + is working and I can make calls etc. However LTE is not showing up.
When I check network discovery there are two ATT networks the one lets me connect without any issues second one doesn't. So What can I do here to enable LTE ?
Thanks

N7100 is 3G/hspa+ only
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Um..
If you just google search the N7100 it says LTE 700mhz/2100mhz band
The N7105 should be the none LTE version Even on engadget.com/2012/09/12/galaxy-note-2-fcc/ N7105 = None LTE version

ATT uses 1700/2100 LTE. See something missing?
Besides, I'm pretty sure no country outside of the US uses the same bands for LTE that ATT uses.
The ATT iPhone 5 does not work on LTE outside of the US either.

IF ATT uses 1700/2100 then
Wi-Fi (802.11a/b/g/n)
Bluetooth 4.0 technology
Model for AT&T: 4G LTE (700, 2100 MHz)3; UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
Model for Verizon: 4G LTE (700 MHz)3; CDMA EV-DO Rev. A (800, 1900 MHz); UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
Data only4
Taken directly from Apple's Ipad 3 4G Site
States 700/2100 So...

Not only that, the LTE chip is not there. Germany has it but it will not work on ATT. Anyway, who cares? I have 3G now and it works fine for me. I can live without LTE.

Pretty sure the bands are different for the international version vs the us version which is why it wasn't a world release.

So wait now the n7100 doesn't have lte chip? It's not about who cares it was stated it did when I purchased the unit. So yeah.. everyone screams it has it so what's the real deal now

It does have LTE but on a band which is used on a different carrier. It's like unlocking an iPhone and putting it on tmobile. You will only have 2g service because tmobile uses a band different than AT&T for their 3G which isn't compatible with the phone.

No LTE for USA .mmm Yah , guess once its bought most will settle and argue that "I dont use it" or "I don't need it". Keep convincing yourself the $700+ was worth the jump. Check the shootout and spec vids happenin. This "update" is like the 4 to 4s iphone. Note 3 will be the upgrade.
Still rocking the N7000/i5 combo
Last few Iphone 4 then galaxy Note Intl version running 4.04 with Speedmod rom, now i5. Note 2 Pass. <flame suit initiated>

In other words if you go to the UK or where ever you purchased the phone from you will have LTE there. But not on AT&T unless they use the same frequency as whatever carriers are overseas.

But the Band support is ATT's Bands?? It's not a different band ATT uses 700/2100 And the N7100 Supports 700/2100
When I search for networks I spot 2 separate ATT networks one I can connect to but the other won't let me.

N-7100 - 4G Network - LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 2100
I717 - 4G Network - LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 1700 / 2100
Do you have an AT&T LTE data plan and LTE sim card?

Here's the plan I have for ATT
It's the Iphone 4 (3G) Unlimited (Grand fathered in with 3g sim card not 4g) Originally from my iphone 4
It could explain the other ATT network it picks up and won't let me connect could be the 4g and I'm on the 3G sim/Plan from good old Unlimited Days?

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So the 1700 is missing from the 1700/2100 so that's the kicker isn't it. hum.
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That, or whoever sold it to you lied and it doesn't have an LTE chip

So Do you need a 4G Sim and Plan to use 4G?
I figured since the device supported it I'd pop in my Iphone 4(3G Sim) Grandfathered in on the Unlimited Data plan into the phone and Get 4G. But The device picks up 2 separate ATT networks but I can only connect to 1

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These are 4G LTE sim cards

CreepyDroid said:
N7100 is 3G/hspa+ only
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Are sure 3g network works on the Note II in the US?

Nyxagamemnon said:
So Do you need a 4G Sim and Plan to use 4G?
I figured since the device supported it I'd pop in my Iphone 4(3G Sim) Grandfathered in on the Unlimited Data plan into the phone and Get 4G. But The device picks up 2 separate ATT networks but I can only connect to 1
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Umm... Of course you need LTE plan and sim card to get LTE service working. You don't put dvd in blu-ray player and expect blu-ray quality, do you? =p
Anyways, even if change your plan and sim I doubt you will be able to connect LTE. On the brighter side, once you switch to LTE you won't get throttled until 5gb data usage. =)
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Yes 3G works on the Note 2 I stuck my old 3G Sim blue one in there it's on HSPA+, I'm going to go get a ATT 4G sim card and see what happens.
The specs say it supports ATT 4G LTE network.
Will update

[Q] VERIZON NOTE 4 working in Europe or no?

Hi guys
I have an opportunity to buy a VERIZON NOTE 4 from USA,but since I'm from Europe I'm wondering if it will work with no problems in Europe (including 4G) and is it unlocked?
Thank you in advance

Where do you live in Europe?
my home country uses 1800 mhz for LTE and Verizon note does not have that.
However you should be be getting HSPA+ pretty much everywhere.

I live in MACEDONIA and I'm on ONE mobile carrier.

juno106 said:
I live in MACEDONIA and I'm on ONE mobile carrier.
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Yep same like Poland 1800mhz for LTE from what I am reading you will get HSPA+ but prob not LTE.

If it's not the development edition BL is not unlocked and Sim does not come unlocked normally, but it's possible it may have been unlocked.
I would say if it's not the Dev. Edition you are making a $700 gamble because as of now we don't even have root on retail version.

xxxtncxxx said:
If it's not the development edition BL is not unlocked and Sim does not come unlocked normally, but it's possible it may have been unlocked.
I would say if it's not the Dev. Edition you are making a $700 gamble because as of now we don't even have root on retail version.
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you mean Dev Edition is not unlocked? it should be.
Retail edition is factory unlocked any sim will work,should be same with dev ed.

So WILL 4G LTE ,WORK HERE IN EUROPE OR NO? You are confusing me a bit.I really don't know what is that HSPA+ !!!
Or maybe I should buy T-Mobile NOTE 4?

juno106 said:
So WILL 4G LTE ,WORK HERE IN EUROPE OR NO? You are confusing me a bit.I really don't know what is that HSPA+ !!!
Or maybe I should buy T-Mobile NOTE 4?
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No it wont also tmobile usa wont give you 4G.
Hspa+ is faster then 3G but slower then 4G LTE.
You will get edge and hspa+ and maybe 3G.
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I just talked to my mobile operator ONE here in Macedonia and they confirmed that their 4G frequencies are BEND 3- 1800mhz mostly and only their base uses BEND 20-800mz.
They said that T MOBILEs NOTE 4 LTE 4G will be compatible with their frequencies.
Here are USA TMOBILE's NOTE 4 frequencies ,copied from their website:
International:
Quad Band GSM; LTE: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17; UMTS: Band I (2100), Band II (1900), Band IV (1700/2100), Band V (850)
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and the is from VERIZON's NOTE 4:
Network: LTE Band 13/4 (700/1700 MHz), CDMA/1xEVDO Rev. A (800/1900 MHz); Global Network: EDGE/GSM (850/900/1800/1900), HSPA/UMTS(850/900/1900/2100)
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SO IS "T-MOBILE'S NOTE 4" LTE/4G ,COMPATIBLE WITH 1800MHZ ON MY MACEDONIAN CARRIER, OR IT IS SAME AS VERIZONS NOTE 4 LTE/4G AND THEY ARE BOTH NOT COMPATIBLE HERE IN EUROPE????
Thank you again,but I'm confused

Thank you PATT2K for your reply,but T-MOBILE's NOTE 4 LTE supports BAND 3 which is 1800MHZ,and that the frequency that my carrier ONE uses here in Macedonia?Or that is not 4G????This is pic of the back cover for T-MOBILE's NOTE 4 that I found .Look at OTHER LTE frequencies....BAND 3-1800MHZ
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juno106 said:
Thank you PATT2K for your reply,but T-MOBILE's NOTE 4 LTE supports BAND 3 which is 1800MHZ,and that the frequency that my carrier ONE uses here in Macedonia?Or that is not 4G????This is pic of the back cover for T-MOBILE's NOTE 4 that I found .Look at OTHER LTE frequencies....BAND 3-1800MHZ
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Hmm I am not sure exactly 100% you should ask someone in T-Mobile Forums.

patt2k said:
No it wont also tmobile usa wont give you 4G.
Hspa+ is faster then 3G but slower then 4G LTE.
You will get edge and hspa+ and maybe 3G.
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It seems that you are right.I just received a message on Facebook from T-MOBILE saying that they DON'T SUPPORT LTE on BAND 3-1800MHZ ,so I guess It won't work here in Europe.
This is what they wrote to me:
"Thanks for reaching out! Our version of the Note 4 doesn't have band 3: https://support.t-mobile.com/community/phones-tablets-devices/android/samsung-galaxy-note-4 *SL"
It seems that it is the same whether I buy it from Verizon or Tmobile!But are you sure that at least Verizons NOTE 4 HSPA+ and 3G will work here in Macedonia?
My carrier is ONE and it works on GSM 900/1800mhz ...... 3G 1900/2100 and 4G 1800mhz !!!!!!!
http://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html

T-Mobile changed their mind now...hahahaha.Now they sent me new mesage ,after I sent them pic with specs of their NOTE 4 ,saying they appologize and that their version supports BAND 3 1800MHZ.......hahaha

Like i said you will get hspa+
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Google Pixel Xl vs Verizon Pixel XL bands

Are the bands on both the same or different. The Verizon Pixel XL seems to be lacking band 12. Can someone confirm?

They are the same....you can purchase a phone from google and it will still work with verizon and get all the benefits as you would with a vzw phone..

The verizon pixel xl does not have LTE Band 12 per Verizon's website. If I buy the Verizon version can I use it on ATT or Tmobile? Thanks

This is the link.https://www.verizonwireless.com/smartphones/google-pixel-xl/. No Band 12. So i was just curious has Verizon DISABLED BAND 12. If thats the case that is a HUGE TURNOFF.

It also seems there are MORE BANDS on the Google Pixel. The VZW pixel is missing bands 7, 12, 17, 25, 26, 29 30?

For a quick comparison VZW pixel https://www.verizonwireless.com/smartphones/google-pixel-xl/ Google pixel specs https://madeby.google.com/phone/specs/

Maybe VZW just isn't stating those bands are available.

They have a habit of Blocking Bands from My past experience. So I am just curious if they are doing it again.

The difference in bands between the google store version and the vzw version
Google store pixel lte bands: FDD LTE: B 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/13/17/20/25/26/28/29/30 TDD LTE 41
VZW pixel LTE BANDS 2,3,4,5,7, 13, 20,28 Missing BANDS 1,8, 12, 17, 25,26,29 and 30.

zboy2 said:
For a quick comparison VZW pixel https://www.verizonwireless.com/smartphones/google-pixel-xl/ Google pixel specs https://madeby.google.com/phone/specs/
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The difference in bands between the google store version and the vzw version
Google store pixel lte bands: FDD LTE: B 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/13/17/20/25/26/28/29/30 TDD LTE 41
VZW pixel LTE BANDS 2,3,4,5,7, 13, 20,28 Missing BANDS 1,8, 12, 17, 25,26,29 and 30.
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Per PC Mag's Review....
Our Pixel XL review unit is the one sold through Verizon, but it's technically unlocked and has no branding on its body. It supports GSM (850/900/1800/1900), CDMA (800/1900), HSDPA (850/1700(AWS)/1900/2100), and LTE bands (1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/13/17/20/25/26/28/29/30/41). That means you can use it on every major carrier in the US.
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Well, As soon as I get my hands on my pixel XL (VZW purchased) I'll throw my test t-mobile sim in it. With that SIM in my older 6P it'll jump on Band 12 right away. My VZW note 7 will register with the TMO sim. But has no band 12, And barely hangs on to band 4 due to crappy tmo coverage at my house. But Band 12 is there. So it'll quickly tell us if the VZW variant has Band 12 disabled with the TMO sim.

Dont believe PC mag. They said verizon pixel bootloader was unlocked too. Another guy here said that on ATT the verizon Pixel is only getting H+.

Got my pixel XL. Threw my tmobile test sim in it. It does have Band 12 enabled. So I'd venture to say it has all the bands that the google sold version does.
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So did you guys elaborate more on that? Any more info about supported bands?
I found a good priced unlocked XL on craigslist from VZW, but still not sure if it will fully work with T-Mobile and will have all the updates on time.

I bought mines from Verizon and paid it off outright. Works perfectly fine on T-Mobile, didn't even have to change the APN.
As for updates, I'm not sure. I had an update available when my Verizon sim was in but it disappeared after popping my TMO sim in.
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cvsolidx17 said:
I bought mines from Verizon and paid it off outright. Works perfectly fine on T-Mobile, didn't even have to change the APN.
As for updates, I'm not sure. I had an update available when my Verizon sim was in but it disappeared after popping my TMO sim in.
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So if I have the phone in hands and/or know serial number, is there a way to check what bands are supported?

worry said:
So if I have the phone in hands and/or know serial number, is there a way to check what bands are supported?
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Not sure. The only thing I can guarantee about the Verizon model is that it is fully compatible with T-Mobile's bands. Even WiFi calling works
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Probably Verizon it's just talking about their bands on their site. They don't even mention bands 3 and 20 for roaming in Europe that very clearly the Verizon Pixel will support...

Verizon Employee here, I'm not aware of band 12 being disabled as it would be a first per the note 7 comment I know that people have taken it to Tmobile with no issues. Checked mine band 12 available.
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Virus1x said:
Verizon Employee here, I'm not aware of band 12 being disabled as it would be a first per the note 7 comment I know that people have taken it to Tmobile with no issues. Checked mine band 12 available.
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cvsolidx17 said:
I bought mines from Verizon and paid it off outright. Works perfectly fine on T-Mobile, didn't even have to change the APN.
As for updates, I'm not sure. I had an update available when my Verizon sim was in but it disappeared after popping my TMO sim in.
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That update was a WiFi patch nothing more.

The phone is the exact same. No changes.