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[Q] To Root or not Root?

let me give you some background info. I have owned my (AT&T) glide for less than a month coming from a overclocked milestone with CM7. Almost everyday I turn my computer on I go to XDA and skim over the rooting guides and the custom roms available. And then I read the "Read Before Updating" thread that says ICS is coming and it puts me off again. Even though my phone is unlocked and outside of the US now, so I not 100% certain I'll get anything. Every day I also check for updates on my phone, force check and everything.
So my question to you guys is this: Shall I patiently continue to wait it out in the fruitless hope something may well happen in the next month or two or bite the bullet and loose the bloatware now? I'm sure its a question on the minds of many glide owners right now

I put CWM + Osimood on mine just to get rid of the US-Centric bloatware, and am liking the cleanness of it. As you're in the UK too one thing you might sway you is that Osimood is based on Rogers which allows you to switch off 4G to save battery.

Why wait? Once it's out, it's pretty good chance it will be available here (or samfirmware). If you waited, would you even be able to get the AT&T OTA update through your UK operator? I would think you'd have to be on the AT&T home network to get the OTA.
But then again, it would take Samsung forever to finally get the ICS out for the CG.

lost_ said:
Why wait? Once it's out, it's pretty good chance it will be available here (or samfirmware). If you waited, would you even be able to get the AT&T OTA update through your UK operator? I would think you'd have to be on the AT&T home network to get the OTA.
But then again, it would take Samsung forever to finally get the ICS out for the CG.
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Agreed since you are not in the States and on the AT&T Network I would Root and install a clean Rom with no BLoatware. Then when we get the ICS you simply flash it.

Thanks for the replies guys
When I check for an update it does say it checks the AT&T server, whether its actually checking the AT&T server or its just a generic message and it actually checks my provider server who knows.
Think I'm going to bit the bullet and get it rooted today

Go for it! There's so much more you can do when you're rooted. I'll never go back.

Pablo 13 said:
Thanks for the replies guys
When I check for an update it does say it checks the AT&T server, whether its actually checking the AT&T server or its just a generic message and it actually checks my provider server who knows.
Think I'm going to bit the bullet and get it rooted today
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Root and flash or only root? Might as well jump all in while your getting your feet wet!

dudejb said:
Root and flash or only root? Might as well jump all in while your getting your feet wet!
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More than likely both
Just rooted it now, (well halfway there) seemed pretty easy to do, at least easier than my last phone.
when you flash the rom over you you do it in PDA section too or another option?
Just gonna download super user, ti backup, and a few other root only apps, have a quick play then flash to something else

Pablo 13 said:
More than likely both
Just rooted it now, (well halfway there) seemed pretty easy to do, at least easier than my last phone.
when you flash the rom over you you do it in PDA section too or another option?
Just gonna download super user, ti backup, and a few other root only apps, have a quick play then flash to something else
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If you did Clock work mod the instructions are:
1. Launch odin (v1.82 tested)
2. Boot your phone in "Download mode"
3. Select PDA in odin and choose the file "CWMR_recovery.tar.md5"
4. ONLY "auto reboot" must be check !!
Then just put aradat's kernel via CWM and your rooted. That is what I started with. Now I just flash everything with CWM and no longer touch Odin.

Right all fully rooted up.
In CWM it asks what device and only gives the choice of epic 4g and i9000 I tried the later and attempted to back up my current Rom and got and explanation mark in a triangle and a droid on my screen. not much happened for a few mins so i pulled the battery and rebooted it.
Any idea which I should select?
Thanks for all the help BTW

Pablo 13 said:
Right all fully rooted up.
In CWM it asks what device and only gives the choice of epic 4g and i9000 I tried the later and attempted to back up my current Rom and got and explanation mark in a triangle and a droid on my screen. not much happened for a few mins so i pulled the battery and rebooted it.
Any idea which I should select?
Thanks for all the help BTW
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Where does it ask you that? I did not get any prompts. I just went to flash from SD card and then chose the file I wanted to flash. Took a few minutes then the flash was complete and on reboot it took a little while in setting everything up and then I got the Google prompt for an account to use. Oh and if you say thanks feel free to use the thank you button.

Probably talking about the CW App on the Market (not supported, don't use it!)

Sorry for confusing you, not in recovery, in Rom manager.
Ive actually put mine down now and just spent the last few hours trying to root my girlfriend's HTC Sensation, which has been a bit more long winded.

Nice gl have fun!
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[Q] Trouble with OTA, can't find answer anywhere

Howdy all,
This here is my first post, and I'm pretty new to the android world as I just recently switched from the iphone to the GS3.
I have my phone rooted and had CWM installed, and some of the bloatware apps disabled. I tried to get the latest OTA from ATT and it wouldn't install with CWM. I went back to the stock recovery and re-ran the update. It got about 31% into the update and stopped, restarted, and said the update was interrupted. Then I tried the newest CWM (6. whatever) and that didn't work either. I've also enabled all the bloatware. Lastly, I tried Kies and it says that my phone is up to date even though I know the update was not applied.
I've searched high and low for the answer to this and can't find anything. I'm at the point where, since I'm new to the android scene, I'd like to get my phone back to the factory settings (unrooted and such) but I can't even find clear instructions on how to do that, either.
I'm used to the ease of jailbreaking the iphone, then restoring it via itunes whenever needed, but it seems that it may not be that simple with the GS3.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.

Maybe this thread will help: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1896773

Thanks! I'd still like to know how to restore to complete factory.

The ota is failing because of the frozen bloatware. There's a guide I wrote in the general section explaining how to go from rooted stock to rooted ota.

gunnyman said:
The ota is failing because of the frozen bloatware. There's a guide I wrote in the general section explaining how to go from rooted stock to rooted ota.
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I was able to apply the OTA with bloatware frozen. It will fail if it's been removed, but freezing (through Titianium Backup) didn't break the process for me.

drothenberger said:
I was able to apply the OTA with bloatware frozen. It will fail if it's been removed, but freezing (through Titianium Backup) didn't break the process for me.
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ahh that's what I did differently. I got rid of it. Thanks

slicetwo said:
Thanks! I'd still like to know how to restore to complete factory.
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Download the unrooted, completely stock LG1 image from here: http://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=SGH-I747
Flash that with Odin, then boot and install the OTA as normal. In the end, you'll be at LH9 completely stock, with the stock recovery and no root. If that's really what you want.

drothenberger said:
Download the unrooted, completely stock LG1 image from here: [/url]
Flash that with Odin, then boot and install the OTA as normal. In the end, you'll be at LH9 completely stock, with the stock recovery and no root. If that's really what you want.
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thank you so much. honestly, right now i think i should learn more about android and everything before i start really messing with it. it seems a lot different and, perhaps, more complicated and delicate than just jailbreaking an iphone, and right now, i just want a fully working phone that i don't need to worry about.
i really appreciate your help. thank you.
also, i never had any bloatware frozen except from the disable action in the application manager, it still never worked. thanks to everyone else who replied with some assistance.
UPDATE: I followed your directions, and went to check the ABOUT section of the phone. It still says my kernel is a USER one. My wife's un-messed-with GS3 does not say that. I think I may have missed something.

slicetwo said:
thank you so much. honestly, right now i think i should learn more about android and everything before i start really messing with it. it seems a lot different and, perhaps, more complicated and delicate than just jailbreaking an iphone, and right now, i just want a fully working phone that i don't need to worry about.
i really appreciate your help. thank you.
also, i never had any bloatware frozen except from the disable action in the application manager, it still never worked. thanks to everyone else who replied with some assistance.
UPDATE: I followed your directions, and went to check the ABOUT section of the phone. It still says my kernel is a USER one. My wife's un-messed-with GS3 does not say that. I think I may have missed something.
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If you want to go back to stock and get update just use Kies.
Open Kies ( do not connect phone yet)
From Tools open Firmware Upgrate and Initalization
In model write exacly w/o quotes " SGH-I747" click OK
then write your Serial Number from under battery all capital letters click ok.
Put phone in download mode ( like for ODIN) click ok.
On next screen you see info about deleting data and if you want to procced. click OK
and connect phone you have in download mode to PC.
Follow instruction
After you get software installed this will look like new phone you get from store. Get update and enjoy.

Anyone have this issue?

So last night, I guess my phone was trying to download and install security update from samsung and failed. My battery died later cause it was low and after I recharged my phone and turned it on, my phone literally took a crap. Everything crashes even settings. Cant send a text out. Bluetooth wont turn on etc.
Now after I back up my photos somehow, what would be the best way to restore to keep root and CWM?
Settings-restore?
dl note 3 os then flash with CWM?
Thanks guys.

Hmmmm
steve45058 said:
So last night, I guess my phone was trying to download and install security update from samsung and failed. My battery died later cause it was low and after I recharged my phone and turned it on, my phone literally took a crap. Everything crashes even settings. Cant send a text out. Bluetooth wont turn on etc.
Now after I back up my photos somehow, what would be the best way to restore to keep root and CWM?
Settings-restore?
dl note 3 os then flash with CWM?
Thanks guys.
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I did have a similar issue. My quick fix wasn't so quick though. I completely formatted, flashed stock ROM back, chainfire root, CWM to bootloader then you're free. I got my files from galaxynote3root.com
Sent From My Hyperdrive Note 3 SM-G900T

Jack Ketch said:
I did have a similar issue. My quick fix wasn't so quick though. I completely formatted, flashed stock ROM back, chainfire root, CWM to bootloader then you're free. I got my files from galaxynote3root.com
Sent From My Hyperdrive Note 3 SM-G900T
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So its weird, after I let the phone stay on for like an hour, everything seems to load properly and nothing crashes. Planning on reformatting, but I am kind of worried on why this happened. I am on stock rom.

steve45058 said:
So its weird, after I let the phone stay on for like an hour, everything seems to load properly and nothing crashes. Planning on reformatting, but I am kind of worried on why this happened. I am on stock rom.
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It's possible during your update critical files were missed do to power loss and were replaced on reboot? I unfortunately was not able to get passed the bootscreen to recovery or the system itself. So i was forced to divert back to stock firmware and start from the beggining. So if you run into any more issues you might start there. If you kept root all should be well i believe. :good:

Jack Ketch said:
It's possible during your update critical files were missed do to power loss and were replaced on reboot? I unfortunately was not able to get passed the bootscreen to recovery or the system itself. So i was forced to divert back to stock firmware and start from the beggining. So if you run into any more issues you might start there. If you kept root all should be well i believe. :good:
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Well my phone didn't die when it was updating, the update failed well before that. I was just saying that after it did die and I turned it on, everything went downhill from there. Really weird

steve45058 said:
Well my phone didn't die when it was updating, the update failed well before that. I was just saying that after it did die and I turned it on, everything went downhill from there. Really weird
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I have a backup of all my pictures on google + they give 15GO i have all my video and importants stuf backed up. When I have a problem with the phone hard reset and reinstall the rom. I use philz recovery is working like a charm to me

How to Force the OTA?

I feel like a moron because mine hasn't updated automatically from 4.4.4. Any way to force the Lollipop update? I already checked and have the 24 wait period in effect. Thanks!

Happened to me as well. Go into settings, time and date, uncheck the automatic date/time function and move the date 1 day ahead. I would reboot the phone just in case, and check it again.

efishta said:
Happened to me as well. Go into settings, time and date, uncheck the automatic date/time function and move the date 1 day ahead. I would reboot the phone just in case, and check it again.
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Weird - just did all that and it still says software is up to date. Any other suggestions?

Called AT&T to see if they could push Lollipop to my device. No dice. Tried the "move ahead one calendar day" trick, but it didn't work. Now it shows that I can't check again for 702 hours. Ha! Any other suggestions? Maybe it just hadn't rolled out to everyone yet. I'm in Chicago, if that matters.

If you don't have an issue wiping your data then you can use the stock Odin file in the general sub to flash it back to stock and update again.

I had my wife's phone updated with a push from AT&T. She had the same issue. They have to file a ti let and tech department did it but took a few days.

Hoshneer said:
I had my wife's phone updated with a push from AT&T. She had the same issue. They have to file a ti let and tech department did it but took a few days.
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Thanks for the help! Did you do it over support chat on their site or the phone?

nunyabiziz said:
If you don't have an issue wiping your data then you can use the stock Odin file in the general sub to flash it back to stock and update again.
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Thanks! Yeah, I might just do this.

Also if you factory restore your phone it will go back to the default 24hr wait.

I haven't really messed around with root stuff in a while, but I know even without root we used to be able to download the update, put it in the root or the SD card and rename it update.zip . Does this not work anymore? I really thought there would be a way to force the update somehow..

evilsock said:
I haven't really messed around with root stuff in a while, but I know even without root we used to be able to download the update, put it in the root or the SD card and rename it update.zip . Does this not work anymore? I really thought there would be a way to force the update somehow..
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That would work if someone has captured the zip file or the download URL, which no one has done. Virtually every 5.0.1 related thread has someone asking for this, with the same response. No one has it, and if they did, it would be available in a stickied post.

Oh the woes of waiting for updates lol.
I remember with my OG moto droid waiting for 2.1 lol.
And how 2.2 blew my mind. Now look at it.

i had to flash oem kitkat to my att note 4, which right after the flash immediately got lollipop.
if you do got to the Samsung kiosk have them re-flash kitkat. then the download for lollipop will update after setup.

Force update to marshmallow?
Hi, absolute idiot when it comes to stuff like this.
So, i was searching through my apps list when i noticed AT&T software update.
I dont need any AT&T applications as i am in Australia and do not have AT&T.
i have tried to force an update by following the clearing data and force stopping the Google services frame work.
tried it multiple times, nothing.
Then i thought i could disable the app of the AT&T software update, and then i fell deeper into the rabbit hole of how OSPolice got in trouble and how there is 2 versions of package disabler pro.
So here i am, stuck with 5.1.1 and i have no idea what to do.
No, i am not going to root it. This is an AT&T phone, with a bootlocker on it. If anyone, *ANYONE*, can help me solve this small issue that would be much appreciated.

Flash Stock Firmware using Samsung Smart Switch Windows/MAC

Samsung has released a replacement for KIES to use on newer phones. It's called Samsung Smart Switch. There are the App versions you run on the phone, and there are the Windows and Mac versions you run on your PC. This is a run through on the Windows PC on how to restore your Firmware in case you've Borked your phone. I actually recommend you do this, even if you have not done anything wrong to your phone. My phone ran really hot, laggy, and the battery life was horrible. After flashing the stock firmware, it now runs cool, smooth, and fast.
Stuck at 51%???
Download HotSpot Shield's Free version and set your server to the Default US server, then try again. http://www.hotspotshield.com/
Thanks to @flameinthefire and his persistence to figure out the VPN fix.
Download Smartswitch for Windows
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The firmware wipe with the OTA included seems to have cleared my battery issues, even with root.

Will do shortly
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Any chance to extract stock firmware

Thanks for this. I rooted my Edge and it was having the deep sleep issues so I needed to go back to stock and start over. I really hope the rooting issues will be fixed soon, but as of now going back to a fresh start isn't so bad.

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SuperSport said:
Samsung has released a replacement for KIES to use on newer phones. It's called Samsung Smart Switch. There are the App versions you run on the phone, and there are the Windows and Mac versions you run on your PC. This is a run through on the Windows PC on how to restore your Firmware in case you've Borked your phone. I actually recommend you do this, even if you have not done anything wrong to your phone. My phone ran really hot, laggy, and the battery life was horrible. After flashing the stock firmware, it now runs cool, smooth, and fast.
Download Smartswitch for Windows
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Did you loose root after doing this ? Did you re-root if you did loose it ?

Yes, root is lost. No, I didn't re-root. Currently, I'm happy with how my phone is running. Others have rooted again and then replaced recovery with stock And they claim good results.

Thanks for this!! Just to verify, with this tool including the update, root still works correct? I came from att to t-mobile just so I could root this phone. So I want to make sure I'll be able to immediately root again lol! I haven't taken the update yet.
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luigic81 said:
Thanks for this!! Just to verify, with this tool including the update, root still works correct? I came from att to t-mobile just so I could root this phone. So I want to make sure I'll be able to immediately root again lol! I haven't taken the update yet.
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I personally have not rooted again after using this. Others have said they rooted again and the phone stayed working well. I believe they replaced the buggy Recovery with the Stock Recovery afterwards. Not sure if that has anything to do with stability or not.

I've install Smart Switch and my S6 Edge connects fine but when I click on more and Emergency software recovery and initialisation the app hangs (freezes) and does nothing. The app is non responsive it just sits there until I force close.

kmatthews said:
I've install Smart Switch and my S6 Edge connects fine but when I click on more and Emergency software recovery and initialisation the app hangs (freezes) and does nothing. The app is non responsive it just sits there until I force close.
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Is there a User Account Control notification on the task bar waiting to be clicked?

How is battery after rooting again

SuperSport said:
Is there a User Account Control notification on the task bar waiting to be clicked?
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No, when I click more and Emergency the app turns slightly grey and sits there

kmatthews said:
No, when I click more and Emergency the app turns slightly grey and sits there
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Maybe uninstall and re-install. That sounds like a software/pc issue.
Do you get the same thing if your phone is not plugged in? If it works without the phone plugged in, maybe try another cable. Or at least confirm you have the Original Samsung Cable being used.

I've done that several times already and it still does the same thing. Thanks for helping

kmatthews said:
I've done that several times already and it still does the same thing. Thanks for helping
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What about right clicking on the Icon and Running as Administrator? Also, have you confirmed the drivers are installed correctly and showing in Device Manager when your phone is plugged in? "SAMSUNG Android ADB Interface"

My experience is less than perfect. I did a backup using SS, did the "emergency software recovery and initialisation", and then restored my backup using SS. The backup supposedly restored successfully, but all it did was restore my apps. My homescreen is not restored despite selecting all, nor are my 5 different google accounts restored. Wish I knew this would happen - I'd have thought twice about doing it....

ShermCraig said:
My experience is less than perfect. I did a backup using SS, did the "emergency software recovery and initialisation", and then restored my backup using SS. The backup supposedly restored successfully, but all it did was restore my apps. My homescreen is not restored despite selecting all, nor are my 5 different google accounts restored. Wish I knew this would happen - I'd have thought twice about doing it....
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That's good info for others. I set mine up as a new device when I went back. Only thing I recovered was my text messages.
I've found in the past that when recovering, it sometimes brings back the issues from before, so I rarely restore anything except messages. I take screen shots of my home screens and the app drawer so I can put it back manually as I had it. I find this gives me less future headaches.
Also, for what it's worth, the S6 is NOT the only phone I've had that benefits from a fresh flash when new. I've had Windows Phones and other Android Phones that run MUCH better afterwards. I make it a standard thing to flash them within the first couple days of getting them if it's possible. The outcome is often positive. On occasion, no difference has been noticed.

It fixed all of my phone problems AND the restore facilitated setting it up again without bringing back any of the original lag/clumsiness. Fantastic fix, thanks for sharing!

Can anyone confirm that there's no battery issues after a few days? Are you leaving VOLTE enabled?

bubblebuddyi said:
Can anyone confirm that there's no battery issues after a few days? Are you leaving VOLTE enabled?
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I will say I think the battery is as good as it will get with this release of firmware. I leave all my radios on and VoLTE is enabled. With that said, it lasts nowhere near as long as an iPhone 6 or LG G2. So far I can live with how it's lasting, but I do hope it will be fixed in future releases.