T-mobile or Dev Edition ? - One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm on T-mobile and not sure which one to get. I'm all about rooting it and flashing rom and don't really care about WiFi calling .
Thanks.
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Blanko6 said:
I'm on T-mobile and not sure which one to get. I'm all about rooting it and flashing rom and don't really care about WiFi calling .
Thanks.
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WiFi calling and texting from air plan would be the only different. But, you don't care for those.

Blanko6 said:
I'm on T-mobile and not sure which one to get. I'm all about rooting it and flashing rom and don't really care about WiFi calling .
Thanks.
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toiday said:
WiFi calling and texting from air plan would be the only different. But, you don't care for those.
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If your on T-mobile buy T-mobile .. the Dev edition is not the exact same phone, their are LTE radio differences

Blanko6 said:
I'm on T-mobile and not sure which one to get. I'm all about rooting it and flashing rom and don't really care about WiFi calling .
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The cost is the same and it is easy to unlock the T-Mobile version, so I would buy that to ensure you have support for all TMO bands.

Thanks guys. I'm gonna pick up the t-mobile then. Have the s6 now, lovely phone but I'm a flash addict lol
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If your on T-mobile buy T-mobile .. the Dev edition is not the exact same phone, their are LTE radio differences
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I think there is a fix for that now.
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markwebb said:
I think there is a fix for that now.
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If their is, please share

clsA said:
If their is, please share
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I'm pretty sure I saw it on here recently as I just received the Dev edition. Remember, Google search is your friend.
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markwebb said:
I'm pretty sure I saw it on here recently as I just received the Dev edition. Remember, Google search is your friend.
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Lol, why would i google it ? I have a Developer edition on AT&T
If your on T-mobile buy a T-mobile phone like I said at the beginning

T-Mobile phone will likely contain band 12 which is a big deal for the refarmed area as it's in the 700mhz spectrum. More indoor penetration for better reception. I would get a T-Mobile variant > Sunshine > Flash Dev edition if you really don't care too much about Wifi Calling. Unless I'm mistaken and the Dev unit contains band 12. But usually the Dev edition caters more to AT&T than T-Mobile

Here is listing of developer and unlocked bands.
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I just went through this and sent my dev edition back for the T-Mobile variant for 1 reason... Tmobiles HSPA+ allows download speeds of 42mbps.. On the Dev edition you will get HSPA+ but it's capped at 14mbps... So while the LTE bands may be supported it doesn't support T-Mobile's network fully

I guess the ATT Dev Edition is also different and probably doesn't support the T-Mo bands fully as well? Or are they similar?

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I guess the ATT Dev Edition is also different and probably doesn't support the T-Mo bands fully as well? Or are they similar?
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Their is only one Developer Edition and one Unlocked edition - they are both identical to the AT&T version hardware wise

Ok but the HTC direct Dev Edition is different from both ATT and TMO edition when it comes to bands?

markwebb said:
Ok but the HTC direct Dev Edition is different from both ATT and TMO edition when it comes to bands?
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If your on either ATT or T-Mobile there is no reason really to get a Dev edition... Since it's so easy to root these things there no point imo

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If your on either ATT or T-Mobile there is no reason really to get a Dev edition... Since it's so easy to root these things there no point imo
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Understood but there seems to be nuances and different answers in the bands and hspa.
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Ok but the HTC direct Dev Edition is different from both ATT and TMO edition when it comes to bands?
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No the Developer Edition is identical to the AT&T phone except it unlocked and bloatware free (as well as different firmware numbers / CID)

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No the Developer Edition is identical to the AT&T phone except it unlocked and bloatware free (as well as different firmware numbers / CID)
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But what about this? It appears there is a difference.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7
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So, from what I gathered, based on just searching HTC and T-mo's sites, these are the bandwidths supported for each device in question:
HTC One M9 Unlocked & Developer Edition Band Support
2 (1,900 MHz)
3 (1,800 MHz)
4 (1,700 MHz AWS)
5 (850 MHz)
7 (2,600 MHz)
12 (700 MHz lower A/B/C)
13 (700 MHz upper C)
17 (700 MHz lower B/C)
29 (700 MHz D/E)
30 (2,300 MHz WCS)
T-Mobile Band (frequency):
Quad Band GSM; LTE: 2, 3, 4, 7, 12, 17
UMTS: Band I (2100), Band II (1900), Band IV (1700/2100), Band V (850)
Maybe someone a bit more savvy in this department can interpret this information into layman's terms? The HTC band frequencies seem easy enough, though I don't understand the letters at the end of specific frequencies. But interpreting the T-Mobile frequencies, at least in the UMTS section, is proving difficult in order to make an educated decision as to whether the developer edition is compatible. Personally, I don't care about WiFi calling and VoiLTE that comes with a T-Mobile branded device. I'm currently using an unlocked Att M7 on T-Mo network. But I do notice that the radio is different as far is signal, without hitting the forums for info. What I do care about is not having bloatware and having a fully unlocked device, so should I want to flash a WiFi calling tweak, if there is a stable one, I can do it with a little more ease. And no, I don't wish to use special apps to remove bloatware on a T-Mo version. I asked my husband since he did electrical engineering for the Navy to interpret but his exact words were " I do not understand civilian radio frequencies". So, a better understanding would be most appreciative. Thank you.
Edit: So far, I was able to find out from a friend that Dev Ed. wouldn't do well with 3G due to the lack of the combination of 1700/2100 frequencies. I can't see that as being too terribly important, but I figured I'd throw that in.

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T-mobile S4 on AT&T network not getting LTE

I have an unlocked Galaxy S4 T-Mobile version but when I put AT&T SIM it doesn't get LTE. I thought the T-Mobile version had compatible LTE with AT&T. I have entered the right APN for AT&T though, anyone can help?
Have you tried to install the AT&T modem?
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Did you select the correct band? LTE? I had to switch it to get att LTE
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Did you select the correct band? LTE? I had to switch it to get att LTE
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Make sure your account has the 4g lte package. When you login to your att account should say like.
Data pro 4g lte.
If it says data pro 4g. Its not going to give you lte.
You need to have the imei of an att lte phone on your account then it will work.
I am sure that my data plan has LTE, I took it out my iPhone5 and I got LTE on my iPhone5. I have enabled the LTE and put the right APN. Still no data connection, I have not flashed it to a different modem. So what's wrong?
How to select the right LTE band? I have only select the "Network mode" to LTE/GSM/WCDMA(auto connect). and APN is that all?
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Not to bash or anything, but I don't see why people try to use a phone for one carrier on another. Why not just sell (or trade?) your unlocked T-Mobile S4, for an AT&T S4?
You can still get retail price for the phone if it's in great condition. Then you wouldn't have this issue.
To me, I don't think whether it supports the same bands matter. Use T-Mobile on T-Mobile, AT&T on AT&T, Sprint on Sprint, so on and so forth.
Just my two cents.
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I dont think its same hardware too.
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RanceedaW said:
Not to bash or anything, but I don't see why people try to use a phone for one carrier on another. Why not just sell (or trade?) your unlocked T-Mobile S4, for an AT&T S4?
You can still get retail price for the phone if it's in great condition. Then you wouldn't have this issue.
To me, I don't think whether it supports the same bands matter. Use T-Mobile on T-Mobile, AT&T on AT&T, Sprint on Sprint, so on and so forth.
Just my two cents.
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Whether or not he gets LTE on his phone is 100 percent dependant on the bands the phone supports.
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Finally I got everything work on my M919, It is because AT&T has to change the data plan to LTE Android plan, I was on LTE iPhone plan.
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RanceedaW said:
Not to bash or anything, but I don't see why people try to use a phone for one carrier on another. Why not just sell (or trade?) your unlocked T-Mobile S4, for an AT&T S4?
You can still get retail price for the phone if it's in great condition. Then you wouldn't have this issue.
To me, I don't think whether it supports the same bands matter. Use T-Mobile on T-Mobile, AT&T on AT&T, Sprint on Sprint, so on and so forth.
Just my two cents.
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its my understanding that the T-Mobile version is boot loader unlocked so they aren't all the same. I'm looking to do the same thing as the OP here soon once I research what if any implications there really are at the end of the day.
Screwbal said:
its my understanding that the T-Mobile version is boot loader unlocked so they aren't all the same. I'm looking to do the same thing as the OP here soon once I research what if any implications there really are at the end of the day.
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Yeah, for LTE bands, AT&T version has less bands due to their spectrum restriction: 700 MHz (Band 17), AWS, IMT, IMT-E, while the T-Mobile version have all bands: 700 MHz (Band 17), CLR, AWS, PCS, IMT, IMT-E
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Yeah, for LTE bands, AT&T version has less bands due to their spectrum restriction: 700 MHz (Band 17), AWS, IMT, IMT-E, while the T-Mobile version have all bands: 700 MHz (Band 17), CLR, AWS, PCS, IMT, IMT-E
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Sounds like you already know more than me be reading that line I take it that the tmobile version on AT&T gives you full support across all of atts network but if you used the att version on tmobile you miss out.
Screwbal said:
Sounds like you already know more than me be reading that line I take it that the tmobile version on AT&T gives you full support across all of atts network but if you used the att version on t mobile you miss out.
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Incorrect-all AT&T LTE phones support Band 4 and Band 17-AT&T is predominately Band 17 and has a small Band 4 footprint. T-Mobile's entire LTE footprint is Band 4. The real issue with a TMO S4 is whether or not you can roam on AT&T LTE network when no native T-Mobile network exists-especially since T-Mobile switched many of their legacy plans with put a serious limit or outright block on data roaming.
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Incorrect-all AT&T LTE phones support Band 4 and Band 17-AT&T is predominately Band 17 and has a small Band 4 footprint. T-Mobile's entire LTE footprint is Band 4. The real issue with a TMO S4 is whether or not you can roam on AT&T LTE network when no native T-Mobile network exists-especially since T-Mobile switched many of their legacy plans with put a serious limit or outright block on data roaming.
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ahh ok. But with the case of getting of carrier unlocked and running a sim from att you're still fine right? Have to figure this out next if say someone gets the T-Mobile one, carrier unlocked can you install the myatt app from the play store or does it get blocked some how saying you aren't on a supported device?
RanceedaW said:
Not to bash or anything, but I don't see why people try to use a phone for one carrier on another. Why not just sell (or trade?) your unlocked T-Mobile S4, for an AT&T S4?
You can still get retail price for the phone if it's in great condition. Then you wouldn't have this issue.
To me, I don't think whether it supports the same bands matter. Use T-Mobile on T-Mobile, AT&T on AT&T, Sprint on Sprint, so on and so forth.
Just my two cents.
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To avoid 2yr contracts, and to get the fastest dl speed.
Hey guys
I read the whole thread and I'm using the $65 data plan which has 1GB on ATT which my questions is which one should I get T-mobile or the international unlocked to get LTE on ATT
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Hey guys
I read the whole thread and I'm using the $65 data plan which has 1GB on ATT which my questions is which one should I get T-mobile or the international unlocked to get LTE on ATT
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T-mobile.
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[q] Will tmobile m8 work on att network?

I'm looking to trade my iPhone for one and was wondering will it work on the att network are there how tos on how to get it up and going ?
rumdada said:
I'm looking to trade my iPhone for one and was wondering will it work on the att network are there how tos on how to get it up and going ?
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It will "work", but I'm not sure how well. You will for sure get basic voice and text, as well as 2g data, and I think ATT and T-mobile share one LTE band, so if the LTE where you are is on that band, you should get that as well. However, I think their HSPA+ bands are different as well as their 3g bands, so you might not be able to get those. Someone may correct me though, as I'm new to T-mobile (and GSM) so I may be wrong on the 3g and HSPA+ part.
Yes, it will work. T-Mobile M8 will work on AT&T network for 2G, 3G, 4G, and LTE. T-Mobile M8 and AT&T M8 are the same phone, except the T-Mobile M8 has more bands to support T-Mobile's network.
This is AFAIK, if I am incorrect, someone please correct me.
yyhd said:
Yes, it will work. T-Mobile M8 will work on AT&T network for 2G, 3G, 4G, and LTE. T-Mobile M8 and AT&T M8 are the same phone, except the T-Mobile M8 has more bands to support T-Mobile's network.
This is AFAIK, if I am incorrect, someone please correct me.
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Has anyone verify this?
After sim unlock yes
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In short: 3G will work, but since AT&T’s 3G network is limited to 21 Mbps, you will only get half of the potential speed. 4G will mostly work, but the T-Mobile version does not have the radio/antenna for AT&T’s 1900 MHz network, meaning you can only get 700 MHz and AWS. 700 MHz 4G should be nationwide, though. See the deals below.
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I'm looking to trade my iPhone for one and was wondering will it work on the att network are there how tos on how to get it up and going ?
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Just to be clear, you want to take a T-Mobile M8 and use it on AT&T, correct? I’m assuming this is the case since you are in the T-Mobile M8 forum.
yyhd said:
Yes, it will work. T-Mobile M8 will work on AT&T network for 2G, 3G, 4G, and LTE. T-Mobile M8 and AT&T M8 are the same phone, except the T-Mobile M8 has more bands to support T-Mobile's network.
This is AFAIK, if I am incorrect, someone please correct me.
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You’re close, but the T-Mobile version had fewer LTE bands. Just FYI, 4G is LTE (bad marketing not withstanding). Here are the frequencies of the T-Mobile and AT&T M8s:
2G/2.5G - GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G - WCDMA:
AT&T: 850/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps
TMUS: 850/AWS/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
4G - LTE:
AT&T: 700/850/AWS/1800/1900/2600 MHz
TMUS: 700/AWS MHz
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Source: M8 spec page
Here is AT&T’s spectrum:
3G:
850/1900 MHz HSPA+ 21 Mbps
4G:
700/AWS/1900 MHz
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Source: AT&T Mobility - Wikipedia
Note that 4G on AWS and 1900 varies depending on the market, so you need to find out if they offer it on those frequencies in your area. You should get 700 MHz everywhere.
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subhumanderelict said:
In short: 3G will work, but since AT&T’s 3G network is limited to 21 Mbps, you will only get half of the potential speed. 4G will mostly work, but the T-Mobile version does not have the radio/antenna for AT&T’s 1900 MHz network, meaning you can only get 700 MHz and AWS. 700 MHz 4G should be nationwide, though. See the deals below.
Just to be clear, you want to take a T-Mobile M8 and use it on AT&T, correct? I’m assuming this is the case since you are in the T-Mobile M8 forum.
You’re close, but the T-Mobile version had fewer LTE bands. Just FYI, 4G is LTE (bad marketing not withstanding). Here are the frequencies of the T-Mobile and AT&T M8s:
Source: M8 spec page
Here is AT&T’s spectrum:
Source: AT&T Mobility - Wikipedia
Note that 4G on AWS and 1900 varies depending on the market, so you need to find out if they offer it on those frequencies in your area. You should get 700 MHz everywhere.
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hi I want to get att m8 and sim unlock it use on tmobile network
I want to know will I get lte?
paullu said:
hi I want to get att m8 and sim unlock it use on tmobile network
I want to know will I get lte?
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Yes LTE works and it's fast but what doesn't work is I can't send and receive pictures no matter what I try to fix it
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Anyone yet know how to fix this without root? I'm not able to send and receive pictures even with the correct apn settings set.
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Anyone yet know how to fix this without root? I'm not able to send and receive pictures even with the correct apn settings set.
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shaqqq said:
Anyone yet know how to fix this without root? I'm not able to send and receive pictures even with the correct apn settings set.
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If you're a current T-Mobile customer, I'd call their customer service and ask if they could help. I'm not sure if this helps.
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Im wanting to know also. I might switch to att in november, and it would be nice to know for a fact that my tmo m8 will work, instead of buying a new phone.
punkkloser said:
Im wanting to know also. I might switch to att in november, and it would be nice to know for a fact that my tmo m8 will work, instead of buying a new phone.
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Well it's not working right now but it might when they do a update later on but as of now it doesn't work.
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Can't we just flash AT&T radio and stock ROM?
Have a TMO M8 and wondering about the same.
Should I return and bite $50 restocking fee or there is a way to make it fully functional on AT&T? Need to make this call in a day or two. Please help.
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Yes it will
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Yes it will
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Thanks.
Will it work with AT&T stock rom?
I'm more concerned about radio as there are some differences I'm the bands that they use. Hate to find only 2G in some areas
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indi7 said:
Thanks.
Will it work with AT&T stock rom?
I'm more concerned about radio as there are some differences I'm the bands that they use. Hate to find only 2G in some areas
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As far as I know all m8 in the US are identical possible exception the CDMA ones the tmobile one can use the att and international roms
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Hi... sorry to drag this back up but looking at purchasing a T-Mobile M8 on Craigslist and using it on AT&T.
If I sim unlock the phone, install say a stock GPe ROM and the WWE radio... it should unlock all the LTE bands for use on AT&T? And the rest of the world, correct?
Just trying to confirm before I buy this.
Thanks guys!
aaron
It should work, I have an unlocked T-Mobile m8, flashed cm11 and still work on att
Works
I have a t-mobile M8 and using ATT sim card. I can send pictures.
Everything is working pretty good. At least in my area. (San Diego)
*Running Viper Rom.

Does anyone know if the Fire phone, if rooted, might be able to be used on Verizon or

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From the article
9 Band LTE
Penta-band 3g.
My guess is yes with a caveat.
1 - if the bootloader can be unlocked (AT&T is the only carrier so far)
And Verizon may offer their own version.
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No, this phone will be using GSM technology, which is used by AT&T as well as all other carriers worldwide except for Verizon and Sprint, which both use CDMA. The two technologies are not interchangeable.
wilzard said:
My guess is yes with a caveat.
1 - if the bootloader can be unlocked (AT&T is the only carrier so far)
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Bootloader unlocks have nothing to do with a carrier unlock.
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No, this phone will be using GSM technology, which is used by AT&T as well as all other carriers worldwide except for Verizon and Sprint, which both use CDMA. The two technologies are not interchangeable.
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not necessarily...
all the carriers use LTE (gsm standard) for the 4th-gen mobile network
Verizon uses bands 4, 13, fire phone supports bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 17, 20.. only band 4 support overlap ("XLTE" branded AWS spectrum....)
you'll get data on LTE, but not voice (until VoLTE is implemented 100% and your phone has VoLTE support... fire phone doesn't look like it has VoLTe support)
theoretically, you could put an activated Verizon LTE SIM and pray it'll work (like how people were able to put an activated sim into a Nexus 7 LTE and make it work before Verizon officially approved it)... Verizon could still block it via whitelisting IMEI numbers...
NO.
The MEID won't be in Verizon's database.
You definitely can't use it as a phone.
You might be able to use it as an LTE only tablet and use VOIP with something like Skype.

AT&T G3 on T-Mobile?

Is it possible to use the AT&T version on T-Mobile and get LTE? I compared the bands online and it looks like it should work, but wondering if anyone has actually tried yet?
Also read a post in another thread where the guy claimed that the AT&T version is unlocked out of the box... seems unlikely, can anyone verify? Thanks.
aimfire72 said:
Is it possible to use the AT&T version on T-Mobile and get LTE? I compared the bands online and it looks like it should work, but wondering if anyone has actually tried yet?
Also read a post in another thread where the guy claimed that the AT&T version is unlocked out of the box... seems unlikely, can anyone verify? Thanks.
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it is not unlocked out the box my att asked for sim unlock code when i tried different sim but i would like to know abut using it on tmobile anyone have info on that?
I am curious about this too. I have an AT&T G3 coming tomorrow and would like to know if I will be able to put a T-Mobile SIM card in it
yes u can
But if it's not unlocked how can it work?
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Once you SIM unlock it you'll be fine. However you will not have VoLTE (coming soon), WiFi calling, or an unlocked bootloader. I'm not sure why you would even want to do this...
Other than those things... It works fine.
arcanexvi said:
Once you SIM unlock it you'll be fine. However you will not have VoLTE (coming soon), WiFi calling, or an unlocked bootloader. I'm not sure why you would even want to do this...
Other than those things... It works fine.
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No variant of the g3 has a unlocked BL. Its cheaper than s T-Mobile version and it's the same other than the carrier bloat so why not pay less?
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Pilz said:
No variant of the g3 has a unlocked BL. Its cheaper than s T-Mobile version and it's the same other than the carrier bloat so why not pay less?
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Because the bootloader on the D851 is in fact unlocked. It's the only US variant with an unlocked bootloader. And if you didn't care about that you'd still be missing WiFi calling and VoLTE when they push it out.
https://twitter.com/TeamAndIRC/status/488353823660863491
Just sayin.
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Because the bootloader on the D851 is in fact unlocked. It's the only US variant with an unlocked bootloader. And if you didn't care about that you'd still be missing WiFi calling and VoLTE when they push it out.
https://twitter.com/TeamAndIRC/status/488353823660863491
Just sayin.
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Thanks for the update last I heard it was locked just like all of the others. Hopefully this will allow the others to gain an unlocked BL.
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Because the bootloader on the D851 is in fact unlocked. It's the only US variant with an unlocked bootloader. And if you didn't care about that you'd still be missing WiFi calling and VoLTE when they push it out.
https://twitter.com/TeamAndIRC/status/488353823660863491
Just sayin.
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I have a T-Mobile SIM card for a prepaid plan. I don't get WiFi calling, as far as I am aware. I just want to be able to make and receive calls. Data isn't even that big of a deal for me since I'm around WiFi so much.
Does anyone know the process to unlock the SIM?
I don't believe the ATT version supports AWS band over 3G/H+, so if you're in an area where the TMO tower is using that, you might be forced down to E, G, or have no signal.
I believe the TMO version doesn't support LTE band 5, while the ATT version does. The only carrier I know of using LTE band 5 is U.S Cellular, so that might not be an issue.
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I don't believe the ATT version supports AWS band over 3G/H+, so if you're in an area where the TMO tower is using that, you might be forced down to E, G, or have no signal.
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Yes it does support it, surprisingly. Per FCC documentation. Of course, AT&T might have disabled those bands in software.
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I believe the TMO version doesn't support LTE band 5, while the ATT version does. The only carrier I know of using LTE band 5 is U.S Cellular, so that might not be an issue.
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AT&T also uses it here and there.
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I don't believe the ATT version supports AWS band over 3G/H+, so if you're in an area where the TMO tower is using that, you might be forced down to E, G, or have no signal.
I believe the TMO version doesn't support LTE band 5, while the ATT version does. The only carrier I know of using LTE band 5 is U.S Cellular, so that might not be an issue.
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Old thread, but it's worth pointing out that T-Mobile also refarmed 1900mhz in a number of areas to support HSPA+, so the potential lack of 1700/2100 HSPA+ shouldn't make that much of a difference.
Once or twice, my wife's Lumia was connecting on HSPA+ when all I could get was EDGE, suggesting to me at least that HSPA+ over 1700/2100 does not seem to be possible on the d850, despite what the FCC filing might say. If I'm wrong, I'd love to be corrected on that.

Does T-Mobile LG G3 fully work on AT&T??

I I am very curious if I could pop in an AT&T Sim card into the T-Mobile LG G3 and have a fully functional device? Anyone happen to know?
It seems to be working fine so far. Ive had mine for 24 hrs and no problems yet
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roughmouth said:
It seems to be working fine so far. Ive had mine for 24 hrs and no problems yet
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And you have a T-Mobile LG g3 working on AT&T??
Yes. I use straight talks att sim and can confirm i am on the att network
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roughmouth said:
Yes. I use straight talks att sim and can confirm i am on the att network
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Great! Thanks! How did you get the T-Mobile LG g3 early?
I bought one on swappa from a pre release winner. I would have gut one from tmoble if they had good service where i live.
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stu5797 said:
Great! Thanks! How did you get the T-Mobile LG g3 early?
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They started being delivered last Tuesday.
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Lte works as well??
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This is a much better solution than the other way around as the tmo version has an unlocked bootloader
People on the forums want to do it the other way around... Whhhhhy lol. Wait a couple days and you can walk into a tmo store and get one.
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This is a much better solution than the other way around as the tmo version has an unlocked bootloader
People on the forums want to do it the other way around... Whhhhhy lol. Wait a couple days and you can walk into a tmo store and get one.
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Sure the bootloader is unlocked?
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Sure the bootloader is unlocked?
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According to jcase, yes
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t mobile version is missing 2 of the lta bands for att....it only has 2 and 4...is this a huge problem? Not sure which bands are used most were
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t mobile version is missing 2 of the lta bands for att....it only has 2 and 4...is this a huge problem? Not sure which bands are used most were
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17 is the major one I believe.
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roughmouth said:
It seems to be working fine so far. Ive had mine for 24 hrs and no problems yet
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I seriously doubt that T-mobile would be selling unlocked G3
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t mobile version is missing 2 of the lta bands for att....it only has 2 and 4...is this a huge problem? Not sure which bands are used most were
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It's only missing Band 5, both models have bands 4, 2, and 17, which are the primary US LTE bands anyway (outside of Verizon's Band 13 that is).
While technically the T-Mobile version is missing Band 30, the AT&T version is missing Band 30 as well.
npaladin2000 said:
It's only missing Band 5, both models have bands 4, 2, and 17, which are the primary US LTE bands anyway (outside of Verizon's Band 13 that is).
While technically the T-Mobile version is missing Band 30, the AT&T version is missing Band 30 as well.
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On t mobile site in the specs of the phone it does not list as having band 17...where are you getting this info?
jerflash said:
On t mobile site in the specs of the phone it does not list as having band 17...where are you getting this info?
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FCC filing docs for each model.
AT&T model: https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...mFrame=N&application_id=222788&fcc_id=ZNFD850
T-Mobile model: https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...mFrame=N&application_id=268152&fcc_id=ZNFD851
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FCC filing docs for each model.
AT&T model: https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...mFrame=N&application_id=222788&fcc_id=ZNFD850
T-Mobile model: https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...mFrame=N&application_id=268152&fcc_id=ZNFD851
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Dude thanks for the info! This is awesome. Now to get my hands on a tmobile version when it drops. Band 5 is not really used much yet..but i am in nyc..
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Dude thanks for the info! This is awesome. Now to get my hands on a tmobile version when it drops. Band 5 is not really used much yet..but i am in nyc..
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It dropped already. Mine is on a UPS truck heading my way right now.
The T-Mobile one hasn't been rooted yet, though it apparently has an unlocked bootloader. The AT&T model has been rooted, but it appears the bootloader is locked down. Doesn't that suck?
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It dropped already. Mine is on a UPS truck heading my way right now.
The T-Mobile one hasn't been rooted yet, though it apparently has an unlocked bootloader. The AT&T model has been rooted, but it appears the bootloader is locked down. Doesn't that suck?
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Ya it does. the pre release t mobile phones were able to be rooted but the patched it already for the phone that are shipping now.
Unlocking the bootloader is harder then rooting for the most part. What im interested in is if the qi charging back from europe are working on the tmobile lg g3....they are not on the att g3. Can you test this!? that would be awesome

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