I have some thumb rule, never update to the newest firmware, and reed the comments. Also at home I have a router, that the manufacture update the firmware from time to time, but I used to run one firmware before the last one. It just an example, but since all the Lollipop, people complain, so why bother? Can't you wait for a while, till Google resolve all the issues? Do you consider Kitkat was perfect then? Or does Lollipop runs perfect on Nexus 6 & 9? I'm starting to think, it intentionally, like iOS 7 on iCrap 4, on iOS 6 it was fine, just think of it, maybe Google do it intentionally, to make us buy a new device? Or they just do a bad optimization job for older devices, and put all effort toward new devices? Any thoughts? I know we all nexus user, are a free beta testers, but if running latest firmware, means it brick out devices, it's hard to thrust Google like that, so I think it's better to stay on Kitkat till better times.
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The people who's tablets work fine (the vast majority I'd guess) don't complain. You only here from the people who have problems.
I've been on lollipop since the preview and it's been great. I'll be flashing 5.1.1 the second it's out. Kitkat is dead to me, and very ugly looking back. It certainly was not perfect.
If my device gets the brick people are talking about it would suck but I really, really doubt it has anything to do with the firmware. Some hardware failure most likely. No reason to stay on an old release.
5.0.2 was horrible. While I disregard majority of users complaining of battery life, some of them weren't spewing nonsense.
5.1 is an improvement. I'm one of the guys who do not post every complaint or dissatisfaction I encounter with the Nexus 7. I know what the problem is, I know where to ask for help to pinpoint the cause, now it's my turn to make a decision, stay on Lollipop? or revert to KitKat? Or remove the cause, in other words the app itself.
Back to the OP, there is no risk updating to 5.x. Your device won't magically break. If you like to play it safe, maybe it's better for you to wait for user feedback and ignore the OTA.
OTA you say...
All I hear ate 2 things "Memory leak" & "Bad battery life", be it Nexus 4, 5 or 7, all after the "Lollipop", ...mostly the "Memory leak thing, that told to be solved after each update
Is it safer to flash from ADB? or the "dead" devices dyed in both ways? be it ADB on clean device, after reset, or just OTA? I personally, never thrust OTA updates, I wish there was an easy way, to make a full backup, like a "Norton Ghost" for PC's, I know it can be done with ADB, the question is, if there's any difference, between flashing "with wipe" or without? or maybe the "dead" devices was : 1. rooted, 2. bootloader unlocked, 3. encrypted, or something else? I mean, Google do test all new FW on real devices? don't they?
I wouldn't take an ota myself. Not because of "the brick," I think thats a hardware problem, I feel it's a cleaner update with fastboot and if something fails I'll know what.
And you can (and should) make full nandroid backups in a custom recovery (cwm, twrp etc.).
But to the poster aboves comment it just goes to show you people are having different experiences. 5.0.2 was fantastic for me, great battery life, best it's ever been actually (still as good on 5.1 ~8 hours screen time over two days.)
The memory leak was/is a problem. Oh no I had to reboot once a week. Huge headache. On 5.1 I'm at 270 hours uptime and system ram's at 479. It is creeping up slooowly but better than 5.0.2
I guess it depends what you do with the tablet and especially what apps you have installed. I use my **** pretty heavily though so I don't know why I'v had no problems.
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OTA you say...
All I hear ate 2 things "Memory leak" & "Bad battery life", be it Nexus 4, 5 or 7, all after the "Lollipop", ...mostly the "Memory leak thing, that told to be solved after each update
Is it safer to flash from ADB? or the "dead" devices dyed in both ways? be it ADB on clean device, after reset, or just OTA? I personally, never thrust OTA updates, I wish there was an easy way, to make a full backup, like a "Norton Ghost" for PC's, I know it can be done with ADB, the question is, if there's any difference, between flashing "with wipe" or without? or maybe the "dead" devices was : 1. rooted, 2. bootloader unlocked, 3. encrypted, or something else? I mean, Google do test all new FW on real devices? don't they?
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Hard bricks have been reported from both OTA and ADB updates, but very seldom from users of custom ROMs... Most likely cause is eMMC failure due to faulty hardware, though the issue is present on nexus 4 and 5 as well... Possibly faulty bootloader software too.
^Bootloader faults could be possible.. that has pretty low level access. I don't know low enough to corrupt the chip. I don't know. Asus/google probably does but guaranteed you'll never hear a word from them.
I hope it's not something like the infamous s2 brickbug. Then you're just playing russian roulette. Maybe entropy can help lol.
What emmc chips are the 4 and 5 using? I'll have to look.
I'm not sure this is true but if you use Greenify I think the memory is kept in check better, although it requires root. I still see the occasional launcher redraw but not nearly as bad as it was in 5.0. I was on 5.0.2 for several weeks and wouldn't have updated if I hadn't read about the hardware failures.
Well if you don't update your tab, than you don't need a Nexus, buy some cheap chinese tabs for 70-100$, almost all of them are on kitkat, most of them vanila android, no updates, and they all work fine.
This is Nexus.It's a developers tab, for testig, trying, people who like the freshest system on their device, who like clean android....if something's not working, there's always an image of the old system or a bunch of ROMs to test and use...
I know, I myself for now test windows 10 on work PC, and a server 10 preview, but computers and tablets are different things, because you not have that much control for both. All I say, is, that I see same threads for any nexus device, I had a Galaxy nexus before, so I know. About s2, there was a rumor about some other Samsung devices back than.
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I know, I myself for now test windows 10 on work PC, and a server 10 preview, but computers and tablets are different things, because you not have that much control for both. All I say, is, that I see same threads for any nexus device, I had a Galaxy nexus before, so I know. About s2, there was a rumor about some other Samsung devices back than.
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Device OEM is irrelevant in that regard, the quality of internal components is really the crux of understanding hardware failure IMO. of the major android OEMs, all of them have in the past put forth devices that were predisposed to early hardware failure, mostly due to choices of components used during the manufacturing process. Hardware revisions on individual devices of the same model is also a valid form of comparison.
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Since I did the ICS update via the LG software updater my phone operates extremely slow(screen refresh, typing entry delay, etc...) and battery life is significantly lower. I do see other threads about different software versions and don't really know what a lot of it means. I also see advice on doing a factory reset after upgrading, but is this really necessary with the stock update? It's my understanding that my phone should scream because of the processor that it has. should I go back to GB or is there something I can do to make it a fast, powerful device?
Mine is 4.0.4 Android version and LG -P930-v20c-JUN-25-2012 is the software version.
Thanks in advance
Factory reset will probably solve all the problems you're having.
And the processor in this device is not a "screamer", it was about a year ago, but not any more unfortunately. It performs worse than the galaxy s 2 in most cases, mostly due to the added resolution of the screen.
That being said, I still quite like this phone, and running CM10 on it has me very happy. Once they sort the black screen of death issue (which is apparently present on many devices) it'll definitely keep me happy till I can afford a new phone (Or maybe christmas)
If you follow the steps posted here to root your phone (you'll have to unbrick it, follow the guide), and install CM9 on it, I'm sure you'll be far more impressed with your phone. The LG software sucks many dicks in my opinion, CM9 is WAY better.
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Factory reset will probably solve all the problems you're having.
And the processor in this device is not a "screamer", it was about a year ago, but not any more unfortunately. It performs worse than the galaxy s 2 in most cases, mostly due to the added resolution of the screen.
That being said, I still quite like this phone, and running CM10 on it has me very happy. Once they sort the black screen of death issue (which is apparently present on many devices) it'll definitely keep me happy till I can afford a new phone (Or maybe christmas)
If you follow the steps posted here to root your phone (you'll have to unbrick it, follow the guide), and install CM9 on it, I'm sure you'll be far more impressed with your phone. The LG software sucks many dicks in my opinion, CM9 is WAY better.
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Thanks for the reply. Can you tell me what CM9 is? i will definitely try it.
thanks again
Try factory resetting first. Yes, you have to reconfigure almost everything. But you'd have to do that anyway if you try CM9. A lot of people say that the ICS update is good after you do a factory reset, so you may like it just fine.
CM9 is Cyanogenmod9, which is a custom ROM that can be installed on this phone. But it's not the easiest process for beginners.
When you factory reset, you'll lose things like text message history and contacts (unless contacts are synced to Google, then they'll reappear after you log back in after factory resetting -- or on your SIM card).
Thanks for the info on the ROM. I'll look for a link to instructions and try it when I can afford to be without it in the event of a failure. I am technical...just not with phones.
Thanks drumist
update...reset made a significant difference in the speed. keyboard & screens work great now. still have an issue with battery though; but that seems to be standard on ics.
thanks!
MichaelWayne_71 said:
update...reset made a significant difference in the speed. keyboard & screens work great now. still have an issue with battery though; but that seems to be standard on ics.
thanks!
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It takes a while after a fresh install of this rom for the battery life to settle in. After about a week the battery life improves significantly
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I was so excited to get a different phone. I had been contending with the insufferable Galaxy Note 2 for 9 months. I really believed that getting the LG Optimus G Pro would be great.
Now I come to find out that there is this locked bootloader? yes before you even start typing: I already know about Freegee. I put it on my phone, it did its work. I have CWM on my phone. I cannot install a different rom. It aborts every time.
And nobody here can help. Its not like you don't see my posts. You see them. You just see them and decide to go on to something more interesting figuring that someone else will help the poor guy.
Hey guess what. I took programming in college. Only one course in VB but I did take it. And I've put up several websites back in the day. ("back in the day is a United States colloquialism")
My point is, even though I have a bit of experience with computers (linux distros, html, visual basic) I still can't figure out the quagmire that is Android.
Once the iPhone 6 comes out, I really have no reason to stick with Android anymore. I mean, if rooting and rom-ing the phone is more boringly laborious than jailbreaking, then what is the point of Android?
For example, lets say I do clear the hurdle and then flash a rom so I can get decent sound? THEN my wifi won't work. Or Some other crucial functionality will be fubar-ed. Okay okay... you say you have a fix for that? Well when its all said and done, the time/energy costs just aren't worth it, now is it?
0 #!*! Given ?
That's interesting because I never took any classes and have never had a problem rooting or doing Roms on any android phone. Sorry your experience has been bad but my questions have always been answered by somebody in the related thread. I would try asking again in the ROM's thread to see what is happening.
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G pro is the note 2 killer...... Just follow instructions of any op to the T and you should be fine.... It's simple lol
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I agree. I don't post often but I really do hate Apple. Android kicks Apple's you know what many times over. Talk about being locked down.... If I've ever had a problem with a Rom someone has always helped me figure it out. Sorry about your problems though.
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@Perry2547,
If CWM doesn't work then try TWRP, even i had problems with CWM.either install it from freegee or install this
copy this to sd card and then flash it in CWM and reboot.
I believe the OP just wanted to start a thread...
So you all may ignore him
Thanks @sukesh.
I tried the twrp you linked to and now my phone will let me flash.
Unfortunately, Camera has stopped.
Close thread please.
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I don't even remember how I rooted this phone... I know I found a thread that had comprehensive instructions, links, etc and believe it was as simple as downloading/extracting an executable file on my PC and plugging the phone into USB at the right moment. I've flashed CM, stock 4.4, Slim and always find my way back to stock 4.1.2, modded to my liking. If you can't flash something in a custom recovery, it's likely your phone is protecting you from failure to completely read/follow a prior mod or a prerequisite to the ROM/Mod you wish to flash.
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But seriously y'all, I'm just glad I have another two hours if battery life left. That means I will vhave to recharge this phone only 3 more times today.
Unfortunately, Camera has stopped.
I too just got new lg ogp phone. Been trying to customize it to my liking for the past 3 days and night. All I can say about android is it is not for everybody. Sure, you can use it as it is when you first get it as a stock device, and it will work as advertise. But there is a reason that you try modifing it regardless of breaking the manufacturer's warranty (yes, once you start rooting it, you violate the agreement.) You have personality of the kind that thinks you can fix anything by yourself. Nothing wrong with that, I'm in same personality group too, many Android owners are. After all, what is the point if you can't modify the phone to your liking? Might as well get an Iphone right? Sadly though, it seems the new android trend is just heading the way of iphone, where users have to be protected from harming themselves. I noticed all the difficulties when I tried to root this LG phone, as compared to the phone I had two years ago. But android users are a persistent lot, more securities mean inventing more ways to break them. If you have problem installing ROM, try cm11 nightly build, it works for me. Post the specific problems and situations. We should be able to help each other. After all, android owners are together in a special community where we can relate to each other because of ideas we have for our phones. My advice to you is make sure you have the newest recovery and you are properly rooted. I can't use the script method where you run a msdos batch file. Since atnt suppose locked the boot.img file or something. Had to use a program called root master.
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Nobody gives a damn, get life!
Antigen said:
Nobody gives a damn, get life!
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Haha
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hawkwind212 said:
I too just got new lg ogp phone. Been trying to customize it to my liking for the past 3 days and night. All I can say about android is it is not for everybody. Sure, you can use it as it is when you first get it as a stock device, and it will work as advertise. But there is a reason that you try modifing it regardless of breaking the manufacturer's warranty (yes, once you start rooting it, you violate the agreement.) You have personality of the kind that thinks you can fix anything by yourself. Nothing wrong with that, I'm in same personality group too, many Android owners are. After all, what is the point if you can't modify the phone to your liking? Might as well get an Iphone right? Sadly though, it seems the new android trend is just heading the way of iphone, where users have to be protected from harming themselves. I noticed all the difficulties when I tried to root this LG phone, as compared to the phone I had two years ago. But android users are a persistent lot, more securities mean inventing more ways to break them. If you have problem installing ROM, try cm11 nightly build, it works for me. Post the specific problems and situations. We should be able to help each other. After all, android owners are together in a special community where we can relate to each other because of ideas we have for our phones. My advice to you is make sure you have the newest recovery and you are properly rooted. I can't use the script method where you run a msdos batch file. Since atnt suppose locked the boot.img file or something. Had to use a program called root master.
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Exactly.
If android is going to be locked down, what is the point? With iPhone bringing in 3rd party keyboards and phablet size phones, might as well go with them instead of utilitarian design devices made by dictator led countries where creativity is frowned upon.
Unfortunately, Camera has stopped.
Perry2547 said:
Exactly.
If android is going to be locked down, what is the point? With iPhone bringing in 3rd party keyboards and phablet size phones, might as well go with them instead of utilitarian design devices made by dictator led countries where creativity is frowned upon.
Unfortunately, Camera has stopped.
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Oh lawdy... Then go to iPhone buddy .. Lol see ya
2SHAYNEZ
But Apple has been implicated in planned obsolescence as well.
Does that matter to you?
To me, it makes me a bit upset that I could work on my vehicle twenty years ago, but now it's not possible. Planned obsolescence.
Make everything sweepstakes m disposable. Lock it down too. Keep every one buying the upgrades.
Unfortunately, Camera has stopped.
Are you still having problem installing the ROM? You have never tell us what kind of problems you ran into specifically. You just ventted your frustration here, nobody wants to hear that. If you want people to help, describe the issue. Go to this site and download the program vroot.
http://www.mobilepoint.us/2013/10/android-root-master-one-click-vroot.html#.U9XRXYfwJGo
The program is in Chinese, so you may want to watch youtube videos on the master root program first. Do a factory reset, clean wipe, run master root program, and hopefully you should be able to install the recovery. Once the recovery is properly installed, you can install the custom rom. Since there aren't many, I suggest you try cyanogenmod.
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Are you still having problem installing the ROM? You have never tell us what kind of problems you ran into specifically. You just ventted your frustration here, nobody wants to hear that. If you want people to help, describe the issue. Go to this site and download the program vroot.
http://www.mobilepoint.us/2013/10/android-root-master-one-click-vroot.html#.U9XRXYfwJGo
The program is in Chinese, so you may want to watch youtube videos on the master root program first. Do a factory reset, clean wipe, run master root program, and hopefully you should be able to install the recovery. Once the recovery is properly installed, you can install the custom rom. Since there aren't many, I suggest you try cyanogenmod.
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I got a ROM to install. I indicated so in the thread. It was the E988 rom on the E980 thread.
I do a lot of whining and complaining but its for the best.
I hope that the complaining I did about Samsung's crappy products has saved a few people from buying...that is the only way that company will learn their lesson. Why pay $800 for a device only to get screen burn in.
But I never ever never ever BRICKED my Note 2.
I've bricked this OGP more times than I can count.
We should have the options to remove the locked boot loader. I would gladly sign an agreement acknowledging the risks.
We're going backwards. We're not making progress.
Same things is happening in desktop/laptop computers. I had to do something unusual to remove the UEFI on a Windows machine I bought last year just to install Lubuntu.
Speaking of Lubuntu, I had an ASUS Netbook with Windows 7 and an Atom processor. Needless to say, it ran slow. So I installed Lubuntu. Then , wow, the device ran so fast and smooth, and the already good battery life got three times better.
Why can't we have an option like that for our smartphones? I want to run the equivalent of Lubuntu on my OGP.
And another thing: Why are some custom roms dimming the display? Is it to make it appear as if the rom is giving better battery life?
Peace out bro.. but yeah, I'm not stopping my rants. If you don't like what I've got to say, simply don't read it.
This phone is not much more difficult to root than any Samsung phone I used. Also why didn't you do research before buying the phone? It was stated clearly that the boot loader was locked. However since day one of purchase I was able to follow a thread and have my phone rooted in ten minutes. It is really not that hard. Now there are a bunch of one click roots. This phone installs custom Roms every time with ease for me. I am no expert but I can read instructions. If you follow them, 99% of the time things will work. I love android for the fact that I have options. I am running a rooted stock ROM now but I love knowing that in ten minutes time I can have a new ROM flashed. This community has been so helpful and responsive.
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Been using my phone consistently for 24 hours. No root. Set it down after a messenger message, and couple seconds later, random rebooted. When it came back up, the gesture pill was flashing. Rebooted properly, and no more flashing. Weird. Anyone been having this?
There are several threads on the topic, and yes it seems to be quite the widespread issue. Some where able to fix this by doing a factory reset WITHOUT a backup from another device, some (like me) needed a replacement device.
We still do not know if its a software or hardware issue, or if these are two separate issues that are similar in symptoms but differ in cause (hardware failure/bug caused reboot & software/backup problem).
I'd suggest you either contact Google and get a replacement immediately or try a factory reset and manual setup (I assume you copied over your files from another phone?).
Wow, that is unsettling. Yes, I copied from an S21U backup. I've only seen this once so far, how extreme does it get? I searched before posting but did not see any discussions. I will look more. Thank you.
Replacement device ordered. More issues arose beyond the reboots, slow charging (6 hours from dead!), apps crashing, settings crashing, wifi issues. I love the phone, but not these issues from a 1k phone!
Have you tried a factory reset, then not restoring from backup (or if you did a cable backup/restore, try a cloud restore instead)?
I hate to suggest it because I restored my Note 10+ cloud backup with no issue, but enough other folks have suggested factory reset and not restoring a backup at all. Worth a shot. Good luck, whatever route you take.
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Replacement device ordered. More issues arose beyond the reboots, slow charging (6 hours from dead!), apps crashing, settings crashing, wifi issues. I love the phone, but not these issues from a 1k phone!
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Pretty sure that three of your problems are software/Android 12 based, but the reboot and wifi issues are probably not. Ergo a replacement should definitely suit you.
It's the old concern of Pixels - they act as beta tester devices for new Android version (and the new Pixels always get the newest Android...). Meaning that people always think "it's Pixel bug! Replace! Hate! Pitchfork!" - even though it's often "just" an Android (12) bug.
It is very difficult to differentiate between a "real" Pixel bug/problem and an Android one, since at the time where Pixels get released, there are no other stable versions of (the newest) Android out there.
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Pretty sure that three of your problems are software/Android 12 based, but the reboot and wifi issues are probably not. Ergo a replacement should definitely suit you.
It's the old concern of Pixels - they act as beta tester devices for new Android version (and the new Pixels always get the newest Android...). Meaning that people always think "it's Pixel bug! Replace! Hate! Pitchfork!" - even though it's often "just" an Android (12) bug.
It is very difficult to differentiate between a "real" Pixel bug/problem and an Android one, since at the time where Pixels get released, there are no other stable versions of (the newest) Android out there.
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Ugh, I am not liking hearing that. First pixel phone.
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Ugh, I am not liking hearing that. First pixel phone.
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That is some bad luck. Sorry to hear that. But the Packers won today so that's good
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That is some bad luck. Sorry to hear that. But the Packers won today so that's good
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Is what it is. I should know better than to adopt a new release anything lol. And GO PACK GO!
Morgrain said:
Pretty sure that three of your problems are software/Android 12 based, but the reboot and wifi issues are probably not. Ergo a replacement should definitely suit you.
It's the old concern of Pixels - they act as beta tester devices for new Android version (and the new Pixels always get the newest Android...). Meaning that people always think "it's Pixel bug! Replace! Hate! Pitchfork!" - even though it's often "just" an Android (12) bug.
It is very difficult to differentiate between a "real" Pixel bug/problem and an Android one, since at the time where Pixels get released, there are no other stable versions of (the newest) Android out there.
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I am on beta One UI 4 on my s21u currently, and the bugs on that are not the same bugs as the pixel, that's for sure. At least not the random reboots. But Samsung so heavily skins android, that is not a surprise. One of the main reasons I want to go pixel. Tired of Samsung putting their trash over vanilla Android
Hi All,
Been a while on here - please be gentle!
I have spent the last 6 hours looking into updating my firmware from Android 10!
I have done this on previous phones, but my current phone is proving a little more difficult. For the life of me, I cannot find the correct ROM to flash. Whenever I come to something I think I have found I seem to have another issue.
I've tried using various tools (Bitfrost) but got errors.
I'm in the UK, and as far as I can tell, my phone is “XAA”, “USA unbranded (default)”. I'm not bothered about changing the region code (unless it can be done easily).
Details::
SW ver.: SAOMC_SM-N975U_OYN_XAA_PP_0001
XAA/XAA/ATT
I would really appreciate some help from you guys who are way more informed and cleverer than me!
Thanks guys and gals!
Simon
EDIT: I have found a bit more informstion - I think I would be ok using SM-N975U1 - is this correct?
That's the umlocked Snapdragon variant...
I have two N10+'s; N975U/Pie, N975U1/Android 10. I would stay on Android 10 unless you want cpu cycle sucking scoped storage in all its glory.
Personally I prefer Pie to 10, better functionality and usability. With 11 you lose even more and 12 is fubar... in my opinion.
The best way to trash a stock N10+ is to mess with its firmware.
Rule #1 if a OS is fulfilling its mission, let it be!
Upgrades/updates can and do break things.
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That's the umlocked Snapdragon variant...
I have two N10+'s; N975U/Pie, N975U1/Android 10. I would stay on Android 10 unless you want cpu cycle sucking scoped storage in all its glory.
Personally I prefer Pie to 10, better functionality and usability. With 11 you lose even more and 12 is fubar... in my opinion.
The best way to trash a stock N10+ is to mess with its firmware.
Rule #1 if a OS is fulfilling its mission, let it be!
Upgrades/updates can and do break things.
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Thanks for that info ... I actually have no beef with A10 other than one issue which I thought maybe a firmware issue.
My NFC works (I can transfer files between phones) however, I cannot use Google Pay, or Samsung Pay. I have read somewhere that this was a firmware issue, hence my desire to update.
I have tried literally everything to get it working (cleared cache, re-booted). NFC Tools confirms it works, but it just does nothing at the checkout.
If I can fix this issue, I'll be happier!
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Thanks for that info ... I actually have no beef with A10 other than one issue which I thought maybe a firmware issue.
My NFC works (I can transfer files between phones) however, I cannot use Google Pay, or Samsung Pay. I have read somewhere that this was a firmware issue, hence my desire to update.
I have tried literally everything to get it working (cleared cache, re-booted). NFC Tools confirms it works, but it just does nothing at the checkout.
If I can fix this issue, I'll be happier!
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You're welcome. It may be doing that because big sister Google thinks you need to upgrade to be secure. May have to do with the region you're using it in. I don't know. I never use those features and don't want them on the phone. Don't want anything to back door in using that route.
Depends how hell bent you are on having those features. You could easily lose more than you gain by upgrading, worse it may not resolve the issue. The N10+ is a valuable and reliable work horse that will run for years... just as it is. If it's running well otherwise I would try to find the root cause of this issue or simply use other workarounds rather than the shotgun approach.
Yeah, I was wondering about being in the UK with a phone registered in the US. But NFC doesn't read my credit card either. Would have thought that would be an option.
I'm not necessarily a huge NFC user, but the other day I forgot my wallet at the petrol station after filling my car. If I'd have had my NFC working, I'd have been able to fire it up and avoid the embarrassment!
Anyway, thanks for your help!
Be glad you have the Snapdragon variant. They are very reliable and run well stock when optimized. If you do upgrade to 11 a rollback to 10 isn't possible if you upgrade the boot loader.
There's always at least a small risk when flashing firmware which can trash the device. The only time I would flash a N10+ is if the rom was corrupted which barring a hardware failure is a very rare SUE, single upset event.
I never tried mine to see if Pay works nor have I ever set a screen lock. The fingerprint scanner could be dead for all I know.
The flip side to that is never being locked out* of my own device, no data lose, and double tap on/off. The device is glued to me as physical security is the only real security. I realize this may seem extreme to some, but it works well in the real world.
*a SEU or partial hardware can lock you out of your device. Had no lock been set, no lockout would have occurred. Got locked out of a PC bios like that. The password -was- correct
That caused a mountain of trouble...
Thank you my friend. Wise words indeed and duly noted...
Just updated my Magic4 Pro to Android 13, Magic OS 7.1, Build number: 7.1.0.136 and I cannot switch between apps; the functionality is simply broken.
I've got a video demonstrating it on Twitter...would therefore suggest not upgrading until this is (and potentially other bugs) fixed.
UPDATE:
I've found the potential cause of said issue - it's linked with the launcher not being default. Switching it back to Honor Home, then re-selecting Nova launcher seems to have fixed the issue.
However, if I restart or power off the phone, the issue comes back, thus needing to do the above again.
Was it à regular updates from Honor ?
TotallydubbedHD said:
Just updated my Magic4 Pro to Android 13, Magic OS 7.1, Build number: 7.1.0.136 and I cannot switch between apps; the functionality is simply broken.
I've got a video demonstrating it on Twitter...would therefore suggest not upgrading until this is (and potentially other bugs) fixed.
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I suggest you to perform a hard reset. I don't meet this issue. It's very strange!!!
marcox92 said:
Was it à regular updates from Honor ?
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Yes it's a regular and official update.
Curious, didn't receive the update
nico97470 said:
I suggest you to perform a hard reset. I don't meet this issue. It's very strange!!!
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That's not something I'm prepared to do; don't want to be wasting my time having to do a full factory reset due to a broken feature that's been pushed through by the manufacturer.
And yes, regular and official update.
marcox92 said:
Curious, didn't receive the update
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You should tape in the three points upper in right in the app Honor Club( system update). Trying versions.
TotallydubbedHD said:
That's not something I'm prepared to do; don't want to be wasting my time having to do a full factory reset due to a broken feature that's been pushed through by the manufacturer.
And yes, regular and official update.
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I'm going to perform a hard reset because of draining battery and others bugs. I was before a beta tester. This update, too soon!!! Honor should have waited!!! I'm angry !
nico97470 said:
I'm going to perform a hard reset because of draining battery and others bugs. I was before a beta tester. This update, too soon!!! Honor should have waited!!! I'm angry !
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Agreed.
Doing a reset will solve it, I have not done it and it works fine, I have been lucky.
TotallydubbedHD said:
That's not something I'm prepared to do; don't want to be wasting my time having to do a full factory reset due to a broken feature that's been pushed through by the manufacturer.
And yes, regular and official update.
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Unfortunately you might just have to do a backup and do it when it comes to android in general not just honor platform updates tend to break things and only way to fix those bugs is to reset simple as that you can complain left and right but that's just how it is happens on ios mac os and Windows as well
wolfaas12345 said:
Unfortunately you might just have to do a backup and do it when it comes to android in general not just honor platform updates tend to break things and only way to fix those bugs is to reset simple as that you can complain left and right but that's just how it is happens on ios mac os and Windows as well
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I used to flash ROMs and kernels weekly on my SGS1, but I can't ever recall one breaking basing navigation functionalities.
With that said, I've found the potential cause of said issue - it's linked with the launcher not being default. Switching it back to Honor Home, then re-selecting Nova launcher seems to have fixed the issue.
However, if I restart or power off the phone, the issue comes back, thus needing to do the above again.
It was very relieving to find this thread and make my phone usable again. It was horrible experience trying to use the phone without an ability to switch apps.
Ja5ka said:
It was very relieving to find this thread and make my phone usable again. It was horrible experience trying to use the phone without an ability to switch apps.
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Sorry to hear that but glad I could help!
TotallydubbedHD said:
I used to flash ROMs and kernels weekly on my SGS1, but I can't ever recall one breaking basing navigation functionalities.
With that said, I've found the potential cause of said issue - it's linked with the launcher not being default. Switching it back to Honor Home, then re-selecting Nova launcher seems to have fixed the issue.
However, if I restart or power off the phone, the issue comes back, thus needing to do the above again.
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"It didn't happen before so it can't happen now" great logic also that was super long time ago lmao back in SGS1 days we only had 1 navigation type so it either fully worked or didn't there were no variables these days we have 2-3 so obvs stuff can break plus don't forget with a clean install there are 0 variables that's why bugs, if they happen, are caught by honor or whoever makes the update with apps and custom settings thrown in there's thousands of variables that can make stuff go haywire
wolfaas12345 said:
"It didn't happen before so it can't happen now" great logic also that was super long time ago lmao back in SGS1 days we only had 1 navigation type so it either fully worked or didn't there were no variables these days we have 2-3 so obvs stuff can break plus don't forget with a clean install there are 0 variables that's why bugs, if they happen, are caught by honor or whoever makes the update with apps and custom settings thrown in there's thousands of variables that can make stuff go haywire
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Indeed, it is great logic. Android has been in development for 13 years since the SGS1, so you'd expect fewer bugs and fundamental features not being broken. Remember, not everyone is a techie nor will come to XDA looking for the fix, and ultimately might be put off the brand altogether, which otherwise makes excellent phones (and I've owned Honor phones on/off since 2015).
Guess you're not thinking of the bigger picture here, anyway I digress.
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Indeed, it is great logic. Android has been in development for 13 years since the SGS1, so you'd expect fewer bugs and fundamental features not being broken. Remember, not everyone is a techie nor will come to XDA looking for the fix, and ultimately might be put off the brand altogether, which otherwise makes excellent phones (and I've owned Honor phones on/off since 2015).
Guess you're not thinking of the bigger picture here, anyway I digress.
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No its garbage logic in fact yes its been in dev for 13 years it has also been adding features for 13 years changin things for 13 years for same 13 years its also been supporting over 20k+ devices and working on them bugs are about normal with majority phones we dont see a lot cuz devs squash them before they push the update but variables that i mentioned prevent devs from covering all scenarios so shenanigans happen my problem was not with bug itself my problem is people like you talking crap because they refuse to wipe or expect flawless experience every time nothing is perfect especially software
TotallydubbedHD said:
Indeed, it is great logic. Android has been in development for 13 years since the SGS1, so you'd expect fewer bugs and fundamental features not being broken. Remember, not everyone is a techie nor will come to XDA looking for the fix, and ultimately might be put off the brand altogether, which otherwise makes excellent phones (and I've owned Honor phones on/off since 2015).
Guess you're not thinking of the bigger picture here, anyway I digress.
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I think you are an expert. Do you think it is possible to install Google Services Framework on Magic5pro? I have one but dunno how to do so. Thank you for your sharing.