[Q] New Fire Phone User Please Help - Amazon Fire Phone

I just got my new unlocked Fire Phone about a week ago, and after a week of use, I love this phone but do have a couple of questions to help out my experience.
1)I find the need to use Google Play for a couple of apps... Tried downloading the google play store useing a video o a different post found, only to find that a "Google Play Services stooped" error rendered my phone useless. I uninstalled all the google apps and my phone worked fine, but still need gale play.. How can I fix this??
2) I currently have Fire OS 3.6.8 but read that there is a new Fire OS 4.6, but my phone wouldn't update it. What can I do to fix this??

mcadenas45 said:
I just got my new unlocked Fire Phone about a week ago, and after a week of use, I love this phone but do have a couple of questions to help out my experience.
1)I find the need to use Google Play for a couple of apps... Tried downloading the google play store useing a video o a different post found, only to find that a "Google Play Services stooped" error rendered my phone useless. I uninstalled all the google apps and my phone worked fine, but still need gale play.. How can I fix this??
2) I currently have Fire OS 3.6.8 but read that there is a new Fire OS 4.6, but my phone wouldn't update it. What can I do to fix this??
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I hate this phone right now because Google updated its play services to 7.8.3.
1. You probably installed Play services 4.4.x, but it then updated it automatically to 7.8.3. That has been breaking everything google on this pone.
2. check the general forum and you'll see them.
I can't wait until I get the LG G4.

Thorin78 said:
I hate this phone right now because Google updated its play services to 7.8.3.
1. You probably installed Play services 4.4.x, but it then updated it automatically to 7.8.3. That has been breaking everything google on this pone.
2. check the general forum and you'll see them.
I can't wait until I get the LG G4.
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Actually, update your phone first. I had the same issue with the google play store, so I completely removed it from the phone. After the most recent update to FireOS, everything works smashingly. Uninstall google play services, update your phone, then put everything google back. Bada bing, bada boom, all better.

mstrblueskys said:
Actually, update your phone first. I had the same issue with the google play store, so I completely removed it from the phone. After the most recent update to FireOS, everything works smashingly. Uninstall google play services, update your phone, then put everything google back. Bada bing, bada boom, all better.
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Agreed. After updating to 4.x it's been great. Even the overlapping font on google maps is gone. I can change my keyboard easily.
But I'm still going to get the LG G4.

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Google Play Services for Wear

I managed to be an idiot and reset my 360 to try and force the new update. Obviously that doesn't work. However, I had Google Play Services 6.1.74 before I reset. I have a presentation at work tomorrow that involves a wear app that I built and due to the mismatched services, my app and the phone aren't talking to each other. Yes I could build with downgraded gps, but I would prefer to just install 6.1.74 on my 360. Do any of you guys know if the watch uses the same apk as phones? If so I'll just install via adb. Otherwise, does anybody have the wear 6.1.74 that I could get?
Maybe this will help, go into the play store on your device, then select settings, scroll down to build version and tap on it. Google play store and services will update if it hasn't already.
Unfortunately you can't open the play store on android wear. That is a great tip though, thanks!
I meant on your phone or device that your watch connects too. For example my moto 360 connects to my galaxy s5 so on my GS5 i open the play store then settings ect.
HigherSensation said:
I meant on your phone or device that your watch connects too. For example my moto 360 connects to my galaxy s5 so on my GS5 i open the play store then settings ect.
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Derp, my bad. I gotcha haha. Fortunately it updated google play services in the middle of the night. Now to wait for the firmware update. The demo at work went well. haha

Android Wear with 4.6.1

Has anyone been successful with pairing an android wear watch with the fire phone?
I've been trying for the last 2-3 days with a moto 360 and have had no luck.
The device see's each other, but doesn't stay connected. The watch will state that it's disconnected from a phone.
I've also tried using a friends phone that will pair with the device, install beelink on the watch, and attempted to pair it with the fire phone. When I open the app, the watch see's the phone and attempts to pair, but I get the error "Incorrect password or pin".
Edit:
It's been 24 hours straight and it's stayed connected.
So far this works for me
My Android Wear is 10.4.1611133
My Google services is 7.0.99
My Playstore is 4.6.17
What doesn't work for me:
Google Hangouts
Gmail
I can use the play store to download apps without services updating.
Gmail and google hangouts both updated my services and caused a headache, I just stopped using both.
Wear messenger works like a charm.
-Aeris Weather Wear does not seem to work.
This is the thread I have been waiting for. Hopefully someone will have a solution for you... Been dying to buy a 360 but don't want to have to buy a phone on top of it...
Sorry I am no help with knowledge but helping with emotional support...
So... Did you happen to ever get it to work? No one else has chimed in, which is scary.
Thanks
T.
Hi,
my Moto360 is connected to my firePhone 4.6.1. I installed this version of android-wear-1-0-5-1785466. First the devices didn't want to connect but after i reseted my watch it worked like a charm. I hope they will stay connected.
(sorry for my bad english ^^)
UnterStrom said:
Hi,
my Moto360 is connected to my firePhone 4.6.1. I installed this version of android-wear-1-0-5-1785466. First the devices didn't want to connect but after i reseted my watch it worked like a charm. I hope they will stay connected.
(sorry for my bad english ^^)
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How did you get the 4.6.1 update???????
mcadenas45 said:
How did you get the 4.6.1 update???????
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it was just a OTA-Update. I have a german device. Before it was 3.6.6. Sorry buddy i dont have a workaround for you
Ok, the problem with 4.6.1 is, that apparently some apps will auto-update your google play services to 7.9.3. (maybe the play store itself initiated the auto update)
I installed fleksy and after that the play service made an update. So i deinstalled the play services and installed the version 7.0.99 again.
But the moto360 couldn't connect to my fire phone again. so i had to reset the moto360 and i re-installed android wear 1-0-5-1785466.
It works again, but i bet, if the play services will update itself again, i have to repeat all the steps again.
UnterStrom
UnterStrom said:
it was just a OTA-Update. I have a german device. Before it was 3.6.6. Sorry buddy i dont have a workaround for you
Ok, the problem with 4.6.1 is, that apparently some apps will auto-update your google play services to 7.9.3. (maybe the play store itself initiated the auto update)
I installed fleksy and after that the play service made an update. So i deinstalled the play services and installed the version 7.0.99 again.
But the moto360 couldn't connect to my fire phone again. so i had to reset the moto360 and i re-installed android wear 1-0-5-1785466.
It works again, but i bet, if the play services will update itself again, i have to repeat all the steps again.
UnterStrom
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I'm in the same boat as you.
Right now I'm limited to what I can do because if google play services updates, it becomes an annoyance.
Right now I've gone 24 hours without an issue. But I haven't opened my play store because I don't want it to update my google services.
My Android Wear is 10.4.1611133
My Google services is 7.0.99
My Playstore is 4.6.17 (Even though I try not to open it)
So far it seems to work.
If you can figure out a version of hangouts that will not update services, I'd love you forever.
This worked for me (after upgraded to 4.6.1):
Android Wear: 1.1.1.1889093
Google Account Manager: 4.4.2-940549
Google App (Now): 4.5.13.19.am
Google Play Service: 7.3.29 (1866531-036)
Google Play Store: 5.4.12
Google Service Framework: 4.4.2-940549
InstaWeather: 1.4.3.9
On Moto 360, I got all notifications
works like a charm
Hi guys, first off all you need the 4.6.1 US version ending in 820 and with that update all the problems will be fixed. This fix all the google problems and runs smooth with all the latest updated google apps and services.
The android wear works great and the moto 360 is awesome and responding better then on my Samsung phone

Two of my downloaded apps remain stuck at loading screen after google play install

Hi,
After successfully installing google play and updating to the latest play services everything is working perfectly, apart from the fact that two of my apps downloaded from the Amazon app store (TuneIn Radio and Crossy Road) now remain stuck on their loading screens. They were working before the google play install and I have uninstalled google play once to test it and they began working again. It appears that they stop working after the latest google play services update, as they continue to work initially after installing google play before updating play services. I've also tried uninstalling them and reinstalling them from the google play store instead of the Amazon app store and they still remain stuck at the loading screen. Does anyone have a fix for this? If so any help will be much appreciated.
Why not try installing them from the Play Store?
aenews said:
Why not try installing them from the Play Store?
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I have tried that but they both still remain stuck at the loading screen, do they work for you?
tune in radio
Tune in works fine on mine, though I have the pro version. Should be the same, I'd think. Crossy Road installed and plays fine.
miles650 said:
I have tried that but they both still remain stuck at the loading screen, do they work for you?
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TuneIn the free version that I installed from Google Play works fine for me. Clearing the cache and data before uninstalling, and deleting the apps from your Amazon account on their web site?
LNRrgB said:
Tune in works fine on mine, though I have the pro version. Should be the same, I'd think. Crossy Road installed and plays fine.
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ygaryo said:
TuneIn the free version that I installed from Google Play works fine for me. Clearing the cache and data before uninstalling, and deleting the apps from your Amazon account on their web site?
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Thanks for both confirming that they work on your fire phones. I have cleared the cache and reinstalled again but they still don't work, I even purchased Tunein radio pro from the google play store and even that won't load. I think i've found the problem, as it appears to be caused by updating to the latest google play services, as after uninstalling the google play packages, both apps begin to work again even once google play is initially installed again, but then they both cease to work following the latest google play services update to 7.5.71. Apart from those two apps everything else appears to be working fine and i've had no issues with the google play store itself. Could it be due to the fact that my fire phone has the O2 UK version of fire OS 4.6.1? As I never bothered installing the US unlocked version because the play store is functioning fine on the O2 UK version.
Just fyi, I have the same version Google Play services. I got the official system update over the air. And my phone is the unlocked US model, purchased directly from Amazon.
I had that issue with some of my apps because the play store tried to take ownership and I guess war broke out with the apps caught in between.
try uninstalling the apps, then take off automatic updates in the playstore settings, then reinstalling from the amazon store, this has worked for me in some cases but not all, neither can update whats app right now but since it's capable of updating itself it doesn't bother me.

Everything was fine, now Playstore won't load

A few months back, I had side-loaded Google apps onto my stock device.
(I'm on 4.6.6.1 now - not sure if this upgrade happened recently...)
I am using it with a Project Fi data-only sim and letting the kid use it for Pokemon Go.
All of a sudden, PoGo won't start (GPS signal not found), and I can't load the Play Store (it just says at a blank white screen). Anyone else have something like this happen, and is there a simple fix?
Me too,today Nov 11 my google maps and play store dont work
same for me since 4 days....
I'm not on stock atm but in the past that exact thing would happen to my Google play if Google sent an update for it's services that somehow broke it on the firephone. Google has made about 3 updates this month so try reinstalling an older version or something and see if it works.
I don't need this when the whole world is falling apart.
nismo87 said:
Me too,today Nov 11 my google maps and play store don't work
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All my fire phones were working fine with side loaded framework, google services, play store etc. as explained in the xda forum. They would automatically update and nothing broke except for a brief period a year or so ago which got fixed automatically after a few days. I know Google broke it with an update at that time, but not sure who fixed it -- Amazon or Google.
But now, the same things has happened. With Google Services update a couple of days ago things have come off their moorings.
Youtube, Maps, and the Play store itself are on the blink. Other things which require Play services also are gone, of course.
I am afraid, this time around, Amazon seems to have really given up on the fire phone. So the chances are quite bleak that they would take any trouble to fix this. eg. They don't even support Amazon Music Unlimited, and Audible on their own Fire Phone! Both are Amazon's own products!!
Check out this thread, last couple pages. Got me going again (for now, anyways).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fir...ay-store-4-6-1-version-4-apks-t3098592/page16
Same here - good to see it was neither me, nor I'm alone, yet let's see how to solve this!
Got me going for a day and a half..
resarfekim said:
Check out this thread, last couple pages. Got me going again (for now, anyways).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fir...ay-store-4-6-1-version-4-apks-t3098592/page16
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Thanks. That got me going for 36 hours. Then it automatically started updating, and back to square one... Google Play Services has stopped working blah blah blah..
The deicsion to freeze and branch off from a version of Android was a very short-sighted selfish, customers-be-damned decision.
Amazon seems to be a really bad version of Apple without the technical wherewithal to sustain itself.
What a pity. The fire phone itself is a great one.
Is there any chance that a non-Google non-Amazon fix can work at all?
Fireinthebelly said:
Thanks. That got me going for 36 hours. Then it automatically started updating, and back to square one... Google Play Services has stopped working blah blah blah..
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Same here
Since we're here, I'm assuming we have our phones rooted. That said, is there some way to just block the updater with a firewall or something similar?
The new google play services update broke all amazon google services in stock fire OS
We have to block the update process or wait for fix in next play services update
Anyone find a way to fix it
Br,
Shahzaib Jahangir
I had this exact same problem and it started last night as well, I tried reinstalling but then I got the "Google Play Services has stopped" message repeatedly, i'll keep looking as I need this fix asap for work
Crephix said:
Since we're here, I'm assuming we have our phones rooted. That said, is there some way to just block the updater with a firewall or something similar?
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"Wrong!!"
Sorry, the would is still fresh..
No.. none of my phones is rooted. The beauty of this Xda-forum solution of side loading the four files (Account framework, Account Manager, play services, & play store) was that they don't have to be rooted.
Just update framework and Login Component to Version 4.4.4 and delete the data from store and Services and everything should be fine.
fuzolan said:
Just update framework and Login Component to Version 4.4.4 and delete the data from store and Services and everything should be fine.
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Updating all manually to the newest kitkat version does seem to do it (though, I only just did it). Didn't even check the versions as I assumed they auto-updated as well. Should last a bit longer now till that version is too old.
Good catch. Thanks.
sandsofmyst said:
Updating all manually to the newest kitkat version does seem to do it (though, I only just did it). Didn't even check the versions as I assumed they auto-updated as well. Should last a bit longer now till that version is too old.
Good catch. Thanks.
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Hi!
I have the same problem here. Google Play Services crashed.
My Fire Phone is not rooted. Can I update to the newest kitkat to solve the problem?
Thanks in advance for any help.
Same here
Hello i have 5 phones whit the same problem i cant open any for google my easy solution is root and put cm11 rom and al working again.......
But i prefer the amazon os :/
fuzolan said:
Just update framework and Login Component to Version 4.4.4 and delete the data from store and Services and everything should be fine.
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have you got a download link?
thanks
musicman100 said:
have you got a download link?
thanks
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This post in another thread should work for you, fixed mine up.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69658319&postcount=167
Fireinthebelly said:
All my fire phones were working fine with side loaded framework, google services, play store etc. as explained in the xda forum. They would automatically update and nothing broke except for a brief period a year or so ago which got fixed automatically after a few days. I know Google broke it with an update at that time, but not sure who fixed it -- Amazon or Google.
But now, the same things has happened. With Google Services update a couple of days ago things have come off their moorings.
Youtube, Maps, and the Play store itself are on the blink. Other things which require Play services also are gone, of course.
I am afraid, this time around, Amazon seems to have really given up on the fire phone. So the chances are quite bleak that they would take any trouble to fix this. eg. They don't even support Amazon Music Unlimited, and Audible on their own Fire Phone! Both are Amazon's own products!!
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Not sure if people are still following this thread but I thought to share. I was able to sideload Amazon music unlimited. It disables native music app but doesn't launch using the same app link. I need to use ES Explorer's App library function to select and launch. Otherwise it works well. Not sure if the audible app would work the same.

Play store issue and Netflix on Android 10

Seems the phone with 10 it's "uncertified device", I checked magisk hide, wiped play store storage, rebooted and... still no Netflix, but most importantly certified device is ****ing gone! No more section under play store settings! Any ideas?
The Netflix issue has existed for months and is unrelated to 10. Do a search, and you will see my name all over the posts. As for the device not certified issue, hide Play Store with Magisk clear cache and data and then uninstall updates so it reverts to factory Play Store which will update and certify..
DvLAx3l said:
Seems the phone with 10 it's "uncertified device", I checked magisk hide, wiped play store storage, rebooted and... still no Netflix, but most importantly certified device is ****ing gone! No more section under play store settings! Any ideas?
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Google - Netflix apk mirror. Install the latest from there. It will update from the play store after even.
sliding_billy said:
The Netflix issue has existed for months and is unrelated to 10. Do a search, and you will see my name all over the posts. As for the device not certified issue, hide Play Store with Magisk clear cache and data and then uninstall updates so it reverts to factory Play Store which will update and certify..
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I did everything again, also uninstalled the updates like u say (I didn't try it before) and nothing changed, the strange thing is this, look the screenshot, the certified section under settings in the store is completely gone!
EDIT: I've installed an old apk and now when I've open the play store link of the app it's says "the application it's not compatible anymore"
I did some testing on this in another thread and it seems the issue is the unlocked bootloader. Has little or nothing to do with the Playstore being certified which mine is.. and still can't install Netflix from the store. I sideloaded on the final version of 10 and Netflix does work.. But it's still a hassle.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80130789&postcount=2079
DvLAx3l said:
I did everything again, also uninstalled the updates like u say (I didn't try it before) and nothing changed, the strange thing is this, look the screenshot, the certified section under settings in the store is completely gone!
EDIT: I've installed an old apk and now when I've open the play store link of the app it's says "the application it's not compatible anymore"
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jbarcus81 said:
I did some testing on this in another thread and it seems the issue is the unlocked bootloader. Has little or nothing to do with the Playstore being certified which mine is.. and still can't install Netflix from the store. I sideloaded on the final version of 10 and Netflix does work.. But it's still a hassle.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80130789&postcount=2079
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DvLAx3l - From what I have seen, when it shows neither certified or not it is actually certified and just waiting for the next play store update to trigger it. Not certified is an issue. It may be that when you installed 10 the play store version was already at that one. Tap on the version number, and that will check to see if what you have is the latest and if not queue it up for change. When it does change, you might have to go through the steps again of hide, clear cache and data and remove updates to get it to trigger. I have been through this a bunch of times including finally getting it to work the other day when the update finally pushed.
jbarcus81 - Unfortunately it is something beyond the BL unlock since that is masked my every custom kernel and it remains an issue. It appears to be related to the device, the OS and the BL state at least. I have wondered out loud if Google tracks the BL status by individual device and records the status based on lock and unlock changes. Bottom line is that certified doesn't mean jack anymore. It is basically low hanging fruit while things like GPay and Netflix are looking well past that.
Just wait a few days and play store will update the app.
Like u guys said, everything is work now! Thanks ?
gettinwicked said:
Google - Netflix apk mirror. Install the latest from there. It will update from the play store after even.
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Thank you! Worked for me. But then had to update payment method lol

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