[Q] LG VK810 Root (Unroot) Issue - G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I bought an LG G Pad 8.3 vk810 from Swappa a while back and up until this point I had only used it for general web browsing but I recently decided I wanted to use it as a car tablet. Yesterday I tried installing the Google Search app so I could use the "OK Google" voice commands and it would not install, gave an error saying something to the extent of application could not be installed (-24). Then when I was searching for the issue I noticed that a software upgrade was rolled out yesterday as well, so I tried installing the software update figuring maybe this would fix my issue but that failed as well.
After doing a little more research I took a look at my software info and it said that it had been modified so I downloaded the Root Checker app and sure enough it said I had root access. I have no use for root access on this and honestly I know little to nothing about it so I did a search for how to unroot and somebody mentioned using the "Full Unroot" built into Supersu. I tried this and it looks like I no longer have root access, however it didn't help any other issues. Does anybody have any idea what is preventing me from installing the Google Search app or doing system updates? Without knowing a whole lot about rooting is there any easy way to fix my issue?
Thanks,
Sean

Herbiegaf3 said:
So I bought an LG G Pad 8.3 vk810 from Swappa a while back and up until this point I had only used it for general web browsing but I recently decided I wanted to use it as a car tablet. Yesterday I tried installing the Google Search app so I could use the "OK Google" voice commands and it would not install, gave an error saying something to the extent of application could not be installed (-24). Then when I was searching for the issue I noticed that a software upgrade was rolled out yesterday as well, so I tried installing the software update figuring maybe this would fix my issue but that failed as well.
After doing a little more research I took a look at my software info and it said that it had been modified so I downloaded the Root Checker app and sure enough it said I had root access. I have no use for root access on this and honestly I know little to nothing about it so I did a search for how to unroot and somebody mentioned using the "Full Unroot" built into Supersu. I tried this and it looks like I no longer have root access, however it didn't help any other issues. Does anybody have any idea what is preventing me from installing the Google Search app or doing system updates? Without knowing a whole lot about rooting is there any easy way to fix my issue?
Thanks,
Sean
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Hi!
The easiest for sure way to get your device to be the way you want it is to use "LG Flash Tool 2014" (Google for it on XDA) and download the KDZ file for 35A_08 5.0.2 that was just released. There's a link to it here [URL="[/URL].
You can *try* keeping your existing data/apps by using "Normal" mode in LG Flash Tool 2014, but I would personally move everything from internal storage that you want to keep and use "CSE" mode to completely wipe everything (except for your external SD card) and install it fresh. You'll have to set it back up the way you like it, but it will for sure be the way it's meant to be that way.

Thank you, I'm definitely not worried about deleting anything as I did 3 factory resets yesterday and erased everything anyway. What exactly does the KDZ file install? Does it send me back to factory settings and remove root?
Thanks again,
Sean

Herbiegaf3 said:
Thank you, I'm definitely not worried about deleting anything as I did 3 factory resets yesterday and erased everything anyway. What exactly does the KDZ file install? Does it send me back to factory settings and remove root?
Thanks again,
Sean
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You're welcome! A KDZ puts an LG device back to a factory fresh version of whatever stock ROM the KDZ is for. It rewrites:
Bootloader (aboot.img)
Kernel (boot.img)
modem.img
recovery.img
rpm.img
tz.img
Etc, and overwrites all your partitions except for your external SD card.
So it removes root and anything else you might have customized about it.

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only half rooted?

I attempted to root my phone using 1-click root app and it looked like everything went well. I was able to tether, titanium backup could access what it needed to, etc. As I continued to try new apps I started to see an error message more and more "<app name> as been denied super user permissions". At first I thought nothing of it but now Im starting to question it my phone is fully rooted.
I down loaded Root check basic which tells me that my SPH-710 is not rooted as I once thought. Now Im not sure what I should do?
It should be noted that when I go into recovery mode sometimes I have issues when attempting to boot. (I know this isnt much to go on but I havent exactly documented whats happening and Im paranoid to try it right now).
So here I am looking to you phone gurus for advice. I should have the correct drivers and development kit installed, but again this isnt something I do on a daily basis and would rather not go into this blind and brick my phone. The last phone I rooted was my EVO 4G and once I got that configured where I wanted it I never touched it again.
Anway.. any links, apps, sites, etc, that you could provide would be appreciated.
Thank you.
The easiest way is to flash a rooted kernel in odin, download a ROM and install it through the recovery if you want to after that.
ryedunn said:
I attempted to root my phone using 1-click root app and it looked like everything went well. I was able to tether, titanium backup could access what it needed to, etc. As I continued to try new apps I started to see an error message more and more "<app name> as been denied super user permissions". At first I thought nothing of it but now Im starting to question it my phone is fully rooted.
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If you were able to run Titanium you were rooted. You probably got an OTA update recently which disables your root. Just re-run the rooting package and you'll have it back.
Re-root Post OTA
+1, got the update a couple nights ago and also lost root even though I still had the Superuser app and could run the allowed programs there as root.
I used sfhub's method to root again and it was a snap:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342728
Bonus is s/he now supports a way to turn off CIQ!

AT&T Update Help

I received the notification to update this morning to 4.4, however the update started to apply, it kicked it out with a suspected root error. Before applying the update, I had already uninstalled Xposed and unrooted my phone, so I am not sure what set off the root checker. I was wondering what my options were at this point. I know I can flash back to stock, but I would like to avoid this if at all possible. Are there any alternatives, or will I be forced to flash back to stock?
Thanks in advance for your help.
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marksman81 said:
I received the notification to update this morning to 4.4, however the update started to apply, it kicked it out with a suspected root error. Before applying the update, I had already uninstalled Xposed and unrooted my phone, so I am not sure what set off the root checker. I was wondering what my options were at this point. I know I can flash back to stock, but I would like to avoid this if at all possible. Are there any alternatives, or will I be forced to flash back to stock?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Sent from my LG-E980 using XDA Free mobile app
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I'm having exactly the same issue. I used the one click root method and have unrooted using full unroot in SuperSu.
But it appears full unroot per SuperSu is not enough? I tried root checker in Play Store and it says I am not rooted.
When I run the install it takes a long time to download and gave 0x13e error after the reboot while upgrading.
I also tried the LG PC Suite but it says my phone has the most current version, that is weird...
This OTA seems to be very picky as I was able to update in January 2014 fully rooted....
I wonder if I need to flash the IOT and go through the hassle of reinstalling all apps and config....that's a lot of hassle...
View92612 said:
I'm having exactly the same issue. I used the one click root method and have unrooted using full unroot in SuperSu.
But it appears full unroot per SuperSu is not enough? I tried root checker in Play Store and it says I am not rooted.
When I run the install it takes a long time to download and gave 0x13e error after the reboot while upgrading.
I also tried the LG PC Suite but it says my phone has the most current version, that is weird...
This OTA seems to be very picky as I was able to update in January 2014 fully rooted....
I wonder if I need to flash the IOT and go through the hassle of reinstalling all apps and config....that's a lot of hassle...
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It is very strange but if I try update recovery it says my battery does not have enough charge. (but battery is at 100%).
I even bought a new battery. I did disable carrier iq spying service before I unroot.
Do I have to enable carrier iq spy in order to upgrade?
View92612 said:
It is very strange but if I try update recovery it says my battery does not have enough charge. (but battery is at 100%).
I even bought a new battery. I did disable carrier iq spying service before I unroot.
Do I have to enable carrier iq spy in order to upgrade?
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Your phone needs to be 100% stock in order for OTA updates to work. This means:
no custom recovery (CWM, TWRP, etc)
all bloatware must be present
you can't be rooted
all system services must be like stock (this includes carrier IQ, so yes, it needs to be reenabled).
If you can't get the OTA to update after fixing everything, try flashing this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2760895
This IS the ATT stock ROM, but mildly debloated. The creator only debloated things that could be installed via the Play Store though (like Google Music, Newstand, Books, etc), so there isn't anything like the remote app or something missing.
I flashed this version because I'm too lazy to try and return my phone to pure stock just to get the OTA and then have to reflash root and a custom recovery. Too much work for me.
EDIT: I'm not too sure what's going on with your recovery... I hope someone else can answer that for you.
The easiest thing to do is just flash the 4.4.2 Rom found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2760895
This route saves allot of time having to flash back to pure stock, wait for your phone to receive the update again, and your phone taking forever to download said update.
spexwood said:
If you can't get the OTA to update after fixing everything, try flashing this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2760895
This IS the ATT stock ROM, but mildly debloated. The creator only debloated things that could be installed via the Play Store though (like Google Music, Newstand, Books, etc), so there isn't anything like the remote app or something missing.
I flashed this version because I'm too lazy to try and return my phone to pure stock just to get the OTA and then have to reflash root and a custom recovery. Too much work for me.
EDIT: I'm not too sure what's going on with your recovery... I hope someone else can answer that for you.
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Thanks a lot. This is my wife's phone so she'd rather not to update if a data wipe is required. She's actually quite happy with 4.1.
Anything extra would only be a "good to have". I think I'll keep it on 4.1 until she switches to another phone.
I did download the slightly customized stock rom so that it could be updated in the future.
In fact, I still have stock recovery and the only reason I rooted was to disable carrier iq because it was doing funny things with the GPS, very annoying.
There is no other way to disable carrier iq without rooting...unfortunately...
View92612 said:
Thanks a lot. This is my wife's phone so she'd rather not to update if a data wipe is required. She's actually quite happy with 4.1.
Anything extra would only be a "good to have". I think I'll keep it on 4.1 until she switches to another phone.
I did download the slightly customized stock rom so that it could be updated in the future.
In fact, I still have stock recovery and the only reason I rooted was to disable carrier iq because it was doing funny things with the GPS, very annoying.
There is no other way to disable carrier iq without rooting...unfortunately...
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If you flash that ROM over her current stock ROM, it should act just like an OTA update and replace the JB OS with the KK OS. It should also replace JB version Google apps with KK ones too.
If you decide to do this, you will need to do 3 things:
1) Make a backup just in case, but then copy the backup to your PC
2) Backup the internal SD to a PC and then format the internal storage. (see *2 below as to why)
3) After the flash, you will need to install the apk from the following thread and use it to install a Kitkat compatible CWM. If you don't while in recovery at any time, you may get stuck in what's called the Recovery Bootloop. Basically, every time you try to reboot the phone into the system (whether from a powered off state or from recovery), you will always go back to recovery.
The only bad thing about this recovery is that it can't read external SD cards, so anything you want to flash/backup will need to be stored on internal storage.
*2) Kitkat uses a different directory system for internal storage. If you were to not wipe the internal SD and managed to get the OTA working, it would wipe the drive for you automatically (which means all your data would be gone!).
However, with this flashable stock ROM, what will happen instead, is that all your data will remain, but will be hidden from view/access. If you have root, you can get it and move it, but it's a pain. Otherwise, your files are hidden from you, yet the system reads X amount of your internal storage as being occupied by "Miscellaneous" files, yet shows that nothing is there.
So just backup the files, then format the internal storage (which will leave her apps alone) before updating. Then flash that ROM and then copy the files back over.
All this is up to you and your wife as to whether or not you deem it to be worth the effort.

[Q] system ui has failed

Please help me!!!!! I keep getting this pop up over and over. As well as i have lost my lockscreen. I cant pinpoint around what download or visual modification i made before it started. I have restricted root access to different things then swapped the permissions for others. Restricted access in droidwall. Disabled and reenabled many things. Im at a complete loss right now. Its not a MAJOR issue at the moment but highly frustrating. Can anybody please help me?
mattdiehl83 said:
Please help me!!!!! I keep getting this pop up over and over. As well as i have lost my lockscreen. I cant pinpoint around what download or visual modification i made before it started. I have restricted root access to different things then swapped the permissions for others. Restricted access in droidwall. Disabled and reenabled many things. Im at a complete loss right now. Its not a MAJOR issue at the moment but highly frustrating. Can anybody please help me?
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Upgrade recovery using LG suite tool on PC or try reinstalling the v50020d update again! I'm getting google play services stopped, but nothing major! I guess it's something with the version services 5.0!
Fullmetal Jun said:
Upgrade recovery using LG suite tool on PC or try reinstalling the v50020d update again! I'm getting google play services stopped, but nothing major! I guess it's something with the version services 5.0!
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I have the vk-810. Still same process? And will this cause me,to loose anything...ie: root, features, files, ect?
mattdiehl83 said:
I have the vk-810. Still same process? And will this cause me,to loose anything...ie: root, features, files, ect?
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U can try to reinstall the latest update available for your tablet using LG Suite by clicking update even if no new updates are available I think!
U have the Verizon lte one! I don't know what is the latest firmware for yours, but it should work normally! I don't think you'll lose any files if u don't factory reset, but I'm not sure about this! You'll lose root if you were rooted when u upgrade recovery using LG Suite!
If u are rooted, use titanium backup for backup and easy restore.
And if u have root working for your tablet, then flash a custom recovery if u don't have one and find the latest uploaded LG official KitKat firmware in the development sections and flash it!
Does it happen when you are using a chromecast? When I use play music through the chromecast I was having a similar problem. I am on 4.4.2 with a v500
muiriddin said:
Does it happen when you are using a chromecast? When I use play music through the chromecast I was having a similar problem. I am on 4.4.2 with a v500
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If this starts to occur and you recently did an upgrade recovery, you should have also done a factory reset after wards. Having recently upgrade recoveried in the LG Tool, I had a nasty loop of system ui has failed that I could only fix by also factory resetting the device.
Incidentally this does seem to occasionally still occur when I use the physical volume buttons with my chromecast.
I have this using chromcast. I have found an easy fix! Just say "ok google "(if u have enbaled it everywhere) and it fixes it!
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Security update with root

So, I'm new to rooting and this is my first Nexus device.
I'm loving it and all the options but now I'm getting a notification to update.
I see all the forums about hooking it up to a computer and using commands to do it all and then rerooting.
I was looking for an easier way.
I bought a Nexus 5 to play with because I liked this one so much and when OTAs came up, it would let me download them and reboot into CWM recovery and ask if I want to flash the ZIP.
This one just boots into TWRP (No CWM for 5x) and does nothing.
I found the update as a zip here:
<https://gist.github.com/jduck/744a6c8a9042e9c792b7>
My question is: can I just download it and use TWRP to flash it or is the sequence of commands on a computer the only way to do it?
Thank you in advance for your help and I apologize for my ignorance.
Gotta start somewhere though, right?
Hi !
I personnaly use NRT from Wugfresh for my Nexus 5x and my Nexus 7 2013, both rooted.
In "model type", select Nexus 5x and your build.
In "Restore/upgrade/downgrade", select "device is on/normal", then click "Flash stock+ unroot".
Select the build you want to install, it can dl and extract it for you, and select "No Wipe Mode" in order to keep your data and apps. (don't try to put your ota file here)
Go through the steps, and in the end, hit "Root" to root again.
I know there are others methods to apply just the OTA with command lines, but I never did it cause I never took the time to learn. I should do it, maybe it's faster with command lines.
Anyway this works, even if it takes a little time, and it is kind of automatic. But I strongly recommend you try both method to find what suits you most. Or wait for someone else to reply so you'll have more points of view !
Have fun with your N5x !
I like the idea of that.
Does it reinstall the superuser app automatically?
If so, which one?
And does it redo custom recovery?
And which one for that?
Sorry for all the questions but I purchased SuperSU and I don't want it to automatically download a different one and have to go through the steps to change a superuser app.
erichjelm said:
I like the idea of that.
Does it reinstall the superuser app automatically?
If so, which one?
And does it redo custom recovery?
And which one for that?
Sorry for all the questions but I purchased SuperSU and I don't want it to automatically download a different one and have to go through the steps to change a superuser app.
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Use chainfires "flashfire" for this process
http://www.xda-developers.com/flashfire-updated-with-android-6-0-and-ota-support/
Darke5tShad0w said:
Use chainfires "flashfire" for this process
http://www.xda-developers.com/flashfire-updated-with-android-6-0-and-ota-support/
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It's not working.
I have Xposed installed.
I unmarked all modules, rebooted, and tried again but to no avail.
Other than Xposed, no mods to the kernel.
erichjelm said:
I have Xposed installed.
I unmarked all modules, rebooted, and tried again but to no avail.
Other than Xposed, no mods to the kernel.
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Are you using flashfire v0.28?
Xposed modifies the system so while you maybe able to get the ota it can prevent you from installing them even with flashfire.
Go to the flashfire thread and see if this is a problem with the app or because or xposed (most likely answer).
Otherwise find the ota threads and see if you can flash it through recovery (not the N version)
Yeah, it's that version of Flashfire.
I have the update zip but I'm afraid to just flash it.
I was hoping that I'd get some more help here.
Not that I don't appreciate your help.
Thank you, by the way.
erichjelm said:
Yeah, it's that version of Flashfire.
I have the update zip but I'm afraid to just flash it.
I was hoping that I'd get some more help here.
Not that I don't appreciate your help.
Thank you, by the way.
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Thats at the end of my ability to help you with this particular problem, I have only owned a Nexus for 2 months and they are completely diff to Samsung plus I run pure nexus rom, you may just have to use a computer.
And I really appreciate it.
I'll just use a computer and do it.
Don't want to risk trying to flash the zip and bricking but I'm still curious.
Just not curious enough.
Haha.
Got it.
In case anyone needs to know for themselves, I wanted to post it here.
http://nexus5.wonderhowto.com/how-t...thout-losing-root-no-computer-needed-0168428/
I used that and it worked.
I didn't flash the Xposed zip and had to later on.
Worth it just to add it to the queue to save the time.
Everything else seems to be working fine thus far.
A few settings are changed (TinyCore was turned off and hidden apps in Smart Launcher 3 were unhidden) but that's nothing big.
erichjelm said:
Got it.
In case anyone needs to know for themselves, I wanted to post it here.
http://nexus5.wonderhowto.com/how-t...thout-losing-root-no-computer-needed-0168428/
I used that and it worked.
I didn't flash the Xposed zip and had to later on.
Worth it just to add it to the queue to save the time.
Everything else seems to be working fine thus far.
A few settings are changed (TinyCore was turned off and hidden apps in Smart Launcher 3 were unhidden) but that's nothing big.
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That is the same manipulation I explained in post 2, but with Flashfire, without using a computer. And full automated, where with nrt you have to factory reset and root later. I'll try it next time ! And yeah, the version of SuperSu is always the latest, and if it is not, it will update via play store (I bought it as well ^^)
Greedybro said:
That is the same manipulation I explained in post 2, but with Flashfire, without using a computer. And full automated, where with nrt you have to factory reset and root later. I'll try it next time ! And yeah, the version of SuperSu is always the latest, and if it is not, it will update via play store (I bought it as well ^^)
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This one didn't unroot. Just uninstalled Xposed. Kept all my data and stuff. Apps stayed signed in even. I was afraid because I heard "factory reset" in yours. Or something to that nature. The only thing I'm having problems with now is Tapatalk told me to check my adblock settings and won't load anything. I'll have to look up what's wrong with it. Other than that, it's doing all right.
You are right and wrong, it unroots but reroots in the process. Same I did when I used nrt. And as i didn't wipe data, apps stayed sign in as Well.
But i tried flashfire on my nexus 7 and I it is way more useful and faster than nrt. I am adopting it !

Lg ls980 soft bricked? Help!

So, i installed kingroot on my lg g2 and i figured i should try to get rid of some bloatware. I didnt make a backup of any apps. So i uninstalled a couple apps that that looked safe to delete and anyways it all works fine, until i restart my phone. Im getting like 3 error messages system UI is not working and a couple other apps, i cant navigate anywhere. The settings on the boot screen and i can navigate through them. I tried to flash the stock rom but since i have the sprint version and it has a different file type. All lg flash programs use kdz. I dont know how to reinstall the built in apps. Help, i know i was stupid for doing this and its all ny fault but can someone help me get it back to its original state. Thanks!
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So, i installed kingroot on my lg g2 and i figured i should try to get rid of some bloatware. I didnt make a backup of any apps. So i uninstalled a couple apps that that looked safe to delete and anyways it all works fine, until i restart my phone. Im getting like 3 error messages system UI is not working and a couple other apps, i cant navigate anywhere. The settings on the boot screen and i can navigate through them. I tried to flash the stock rom but since i have the sprint version and it has a different file type. All lg flash programs use kdz. I dont know how to reinstall the built in apps. Help, i know i was stupid for doing this and its all ny fault but can someone help me get it back to its original state. Thanks!
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Follow the directions in this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2432476

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