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Dead Pixels anyone?

So I noticed last night while trying to take a picture in the dark (yeah I know it doesn't work lol) that my screen has close to 75 dead pixels in it. Is this typical of TP2's? None of the three G1's I've gone though had a single dead pixel. In fact, I have not seen a screen with this kind of deadness since the original PSP... Well I'm within my 14 days, so this one is going back to T-Mobile.
I think I may just wait for T-Mo to toss out the HD2, or what ever device they launch that will have the ability to utilize WinMo 7 upon release.

75, tha's a bit much. I have 5 on my tp2 and 2 on my hero. I am probably gonna get the tp2 replaced. They really don't bother me though. I really don't want to get stuck with a refurb

I wish that I had checked my first TP2 for them, but I had to send that one back as the automatic speakerphone didn't work. (Nor did anything that used the rotation sensor, like Need For Speed: Undergroud, obviously sensor version!)
The dead pixels bother me when playing darker games, or looking at darker pics. Also, I just installed a dark theme, and now it looks like there is water dripping down it (in a bad way) lol.
If my next replacement has any more issues, I'm just going to send it back and get out my half broken G1 again. It shouldn't be this hard to do a quality check before shipping.

HTC doesn't recognize dead pixels as something wrong with the unit, except if there's 3 (or more) dead pixels on an area not larger than 1cm^3 (one cubic centimeter). 75 totally is obviously quite alot. ;P
personally i have one dead pixel on my Swedish unbranded TP2, and just one dead pixel isn't really bothering at all, even if it, of course, would've been nicer without it.

What does "taking a picture" and "dead pixels" have to do with each other unless you're talking about the camera itself having dead pixels?
If you want to check the screen for dead pixels find something that displays solid black, white, red, green, blue... There are several "flashlight" programs that do this.

khaytsus said:
What does "taking a picture" and "dead pixels" have to do with each other unless you're talking about the camera itself having dead pixels?
If you want to check the screen for dead pixels find something that displays solid black, white, red, green, blue... There are several "flashlight" programs that do this.
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camera lenses cant possibly, not even in a million years, ever have pixels. thats just absurd.
taking a picture in the dark.
in other words, it was an all black screen when he/she:
1- took the photo in the dark
2- saw the dark photo.
that is when he/she noticed the dead pixels.

One dead pixel reporting here
Not a big deal...
I read somewhere about an app to correct this dead pixels
Anyone know more about this?

djinfamousflo said:
camera lenses cant possibly, not even in a million years, ever have pixels. thats just absurd.
taking a picture in the dark.
in other words, it was an all black screen when he/she:
1- took the photo in the dark
2- saw the dark photo.
that is when he/she noticed the dead pixels.
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I think we all know what djinfamousflo really means. The exact technical terms were probably not used correctly but the point is, you really can't come to the conclusion that you have dead pixels based on taking a photo in the dark and then looking at that photo. If that were the case, I would have several dead pixels myself. My photo taken in the dark actually has a couple of pale spots.
If you really want to test, you need to fill your screen with black, blue, green, and red. See if each pixel can display each color. Try it with the pics I've attached.
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One dead pixel reporting here
Not a big deal...
I read somewhere about an app to correct this dead pixels
Anyone know more about this?
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I don't think you can fix a dead pixel (ie, if your screen is suppose to display white, and the pixel is black, then it's pretty much really dead).
But you may be able to wake up a stuck pixel if you have an app that rapidly continuously flashes red, green and blue.

I noticed them when I took a picture in a no light environment, and proceeded to test with my flashlight app. I'm within T-Mobile's 14 days, so I can get this one replaced, I just wanted to make sure this wasn't a wide spread issue.
Thanks for posts guys

How easy is it to spot a single dead pixel? Does it glare out at you and taunt you everyday, or is it something you rarely notice?
I assume "dead" means it doesn't display anything and "stuck" means it only displays 1 color always.

ohyeahar said:
I don't think you can fix a dead pixel (ie, if your screen is suppose to display white, and the pixel is black, then it's pretty much really dead).
But you may be able to wake up a stuck pixel if you have an app that rapidly continuously flashes red, green and blue.
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Thanks I´ll try that and report back
What is the app that rapidly continuously flashes red, green and blue?

fortunz said:
How easy is it to spot a single dead pixel? Does it glare out at you and taunt you everyday, or is it something you rarely notice?
I assume "dead" means it doesn't display anything and "stuck" means it only displays 1 color always.
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It's pretty easy to spot if you splash the screen with red, green, blue, and white. Your "dead" and "stuck" definitions are spot on...
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Thanks I´ll try that and report back
What is the app that rapidly continuously flashes red, green and blue?
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Try this. But I couldn't get it to run full screen, so if your stuck pixel is on the top or bottom bars, then it won't work. You can however, slide out your keyboard and force the app to run landscape to cover more ground. But you're out of luck if your stuck pixel is in the corners.

khaytsus said:
What does "taking a picture" and "dead pixels" have to do with each other unless you're talking about the camera itself having dead pixels?
If you want to check the screen for dead pixels find something that displays solid black, white, red, green, blue... There are several "flashlight" programs that do this.
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djinfamousflo said:
camera lenses cant possibly, not even in a million years, ever have pixels. thats just absurd.
taking a picture in the dark.
in other words, it was an all black screen when he/she:
1- took the photo in the dark
2- saw the dark photo.
that is when he/she noticed the dead pixels.
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Okay.... So I obviously did not say a lens.
Second, taking pictures in the dark and checking for "dead pixels" is complete and utter nonsense. Flat out nonsense. Again, the ONLY thing that could POSSIBLY find is hot pixels in the camera sensor.

khaytsus said:
Okay.... So I obviously did not say a lens.
Second, taking pictures in the dark and checking for "dead pixels" is complete and utter nonsense. Flat out nonsense. Again, the ONLY thing that could POSSIBLY find is hot pixels in the camera sensor.
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Yes, yes you can. In a low to zero light environment they show up just fine. Camera's don't have pixels. And the camera sensors are digital. They don't work like a screen. Thus when you power on your camera and go into a bathroom you will indeed see DEAD/STUCK pixels. (Assuming your device has any) AND I USED A FLASHLIGHT APP AFTER TO VERIFY. There is a significant difference between a dead pixel, and super low light pixilation that occurs from the CMOS sensor (That's what the camera uses to take a picture.) attempting to raise the light level.
Please if you don't have anything constructive to add, don't add anything at all.
I sent TP2 back for replacement today, and will try out number three. If the third one has issues, well I'll be going back to my G1 personally.

Oh yes - And I never TOOK a picture to find them, I simply noticed this while trying to take a night shot of some pumpkins, thus making the entire screen black. Now if I then took a picture and looked at it, it would show nothing, as the CMOS doesn't have dead pixels. I just NOTICED the dead ones while the screen was all black IN the camera APP.
Maybe that makes it clearer?

q426669 said:
Yes, yes you can. In a low to zero light environment they show up just fine. Camera's don't have pixels. And the camera sensors are digital. They don't work like a screen. Thus when you power on your camera and go into a bathroom you will indeed see DEAD/STUCK pixels. (Assuming your device has any) AND I USED A FLASHLIGHT APP AFTER TO VERIFY. There is a significant difference between a dead pixel, and super low light pixilation that occurs from the CMOS sensor (That's what the camera uses to take a picture.) attempting to raise the light level.
Please if you don't have anything constructive to add, don't add anything at all.
I sent TP2 back for replacement today, and will try out number three. If the third one has issues, well I'll be going back to my G1 personally.
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I bolded your statement that you really should stick to, although perhaps you should replace "constructive" with "useful".
If you have dead pixels by viewing with a app that shows solid colors, you have stuck pixels. Using the camera in a dark room is not the way to find them.
And digital cameras don't have pixels?? The Tilt 2 has a 3.2MP camera. You can interpolate from there.

To revive a somewhat stagnant thread... if I take pictures on my TP2, there is one all-white pixel that shows up in every picture. Funny thing is it shows only when viewing previously taken pictures, it does not show up in the viewfinder before clicking the shutter.
And no, it's not a dead screen pixel... as I can zoom in on it and move it around.
So looks like a dead CMOS pixel.

quid246 said:
To revive a somewhat stagnant thread... if I take pictures on my TP2, there is one all-white pixel that shows up in every picture. Funny thing is it shows only when viewing previously taken pictures, it does not show up in the viewfinder before clicking the shutter.
And no, it's not a dead screen pixel... as I can zoom in on it and move it around.
So looks like a dead CMOS pixel.
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View it on your computer; does it still show? Same place every time, again on the PC.

if its on a picture and not permanently on the screen, its not a dead pixel, its noise on the photo. web cams are notorious for little stray off color pixels. i dont think a camera phone is a proper replacement for a real camera. dead pixel and stuck pixel are the same thing. normally flashing black and white on the screen really fast will fix them but thats more for computer monitors. dunno how that would refer to a phone because ive only seen an iphone that had dead pixels, never on any other. if it really bugs you, it is a warranty issue and you can get your phone replaced.

Hot Pixel Camera Problem?

Hi everyone, just a few minutes ago i was looking for a completely black wallpaper and it came to my mind to just put my finger over the camera and take a pic, as soon as i put my finger over the lens i saw a few red and blue spots on the screen...i then put it over a black cloth and i could still see the red and blue dots(look like dead pixels but on the sensor?) its best visible when camera is set to 8mp. I am just wondering if this is normal or if i have a faulty camera..the dots dissapear as soon as there is some light i will post a pic in a sec. Please can anyone test it out by turning on the cam set to 8mp and put your finger over the lens so its completely dark wait a bit ( 30-40sec) and look at the screen.
Edit: Also when you put the exposure to max you can see it even better.
Did a little research and it is called a hot pixels.

Hi,
At 1st excuse my english please!
You dont need to be afraid of this, this is totaly normal an youre camera is ok!
The sensor generate colors from RGB (red, green and blue) and what you see there is no more then the try of the sensor to put colors in the dark!
Greetings
Alef

Yes but they are on the same spot every time and they are flickering, the only way you can notice it is in a dark room and when you put somthing over the lens so its completely dark then i get flickering hot pixels on the same spots. Please can anyone else try this and let me know if you see it on the display/viewfinder.

A lot of sensors can suffer from that, that's why normal cameras offer pixel mapping to disable hot pixels. Unless you see those spots show up in final images I would say don't worry about.

It does show on the final picture. That is why im asking people to check if they have same thing.. if every one has it i wouldnt worry about it but if not i will go exchange it while i can. Its bright flickering white, red and blue dots. Looks exactly like a stuck pixel and not the rgb noise ones that are visible on the whole screen.
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Hi,
I found an explanation for this:
The CCD-Sensor interprets residual voltage (<----Hope the right word! ) as brightness information what results in those colored spots!
As I said, its totaly normal!
Greetings
Alef

If you take a picture in a dark room, the camera will boost the gain in order to try to take a decent picture. It will boost the gain until it sees enough content in the image. The darker the room, the more the gain will be boosted.
By covering the lens youve removed all of the light. The camera is therefore boosting the gain as much as it can until it's picking up what is effectively noise in a few of the pixels (some will always be more noisy than others). This wont have any noticable effect on a picture taken at normal light levels.

Thank you everyone for the explanation
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I actually noticed this, too. I thought I had a dead/hot pixel on the screen, but it only appears when it's on viewfinder mode. It doesn't really appear in the image taken itself (or maybe I just don't notice) so I never really minded it after the initial discovery. Glad to know this is just normal

I'm noticing this too.
except differently, i'm not seeing individual spots, i'm seeing hair-like artifacts.
Pictures:
any suggestions?

Hmm that looks really bad.. did you solve it?

You will have to send the phone where you bought, I think it's a manufacturer's faulty

Flash Bleeding: is Sony going to something about it?

Hi guys,
I have this phone for 3 weeks, and I think it's a great phone but simply can't stand the fact that when I shoot in low light condictions I got that flash bleeding simply destroing picture quality.
I've used the marker trick, but after a week or so the coloring has gone away and I had to do it againg.
Guys, so frustrating you need to paint a 400£ phone once a week come on....
Will Sony do something about it, or they consider just enough they've said "You're shooting it wrong" like reportend on Talk Sony Mobile forum?
Will they just tact as if nothing has happened and fix this on Z2 Compact?
Always loved Sony for the way they are different form Samsung, Lg etc. but really disappointed this time...

Ever heard of HTC One purple tint issue on camera? I'm pretty sure it's a hundred fold worse than this camera issue and up to now HTC didn't provide any official recall or fix for this problem. AFAIK this issue only shows up on situations where an image would be worthless. I mean who takes picture of a black sky without any objects? Or takes a picture on a empty dark room without any focused subject nor takes a portrait picture of an object which is on a far distance than normal. All I can say is take it easy... Just use the camera normally and you won't encounter the issue. I've done low light pictures from the compact already from night concerts, Selfies on night, low light shots on some friends and stuff and I haven't encountered the light bleed issue. The only way I can reproduce it is if I take a picture of the sky, taking a picture of something a few meters away from me or taking picture on a empty dark room(ghost hunting? ).
GiveMe2Beers said:
Hi guys,
I have this phone for 3 weeks, and I think it's a great phone but simply can't stand the fact that when I shoot in low light condictions I got that flash bleeding simply destroing picture quality.
I've used the marker trick, but after a week or so the coloring has gone away and I had to do it againg.
Guys, so frustrating you need to paint a 400£ phone once a week come on....
Will Sony do something about it, or they consider just enough they've said "You're shooting it wrong" like reportend on Talk Sony Mobile forum?
Will they just take our money and fix this on Z2 Compact?
Always loved Sony for the way they are different form Samsung, Lg etc. but really disappointed this time...
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Riyal said:
Ever heard of HTC One purple tint issue on camera? I'm pretty sure it's a hundred fold worse than this camera issue and up to now HTC didn't provide any official recall or fix for this problem. AFAIK this issue only shows up on situations where an image would be worthless. I mean who takes picture of a black sky without any objects? Or takes a picture on a empty dark room without any focused subject nor takes a portrait picture of an object which is on a far distance than normal. All I can say is take it easy... Just use the camera normally and you won't encounter the issue. I've done low light pictures from the compact already from night concerts, Selfies on night, low light shots on some friends and stuff and I haven't encountered the light bleed issue. The only way I can reproduce it is if I take a picture of the sky, taking a picture of something a few meters away from me or taking picture on a empty dark room(ghost hunting? ).
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My HTC One and also a friend of mine's were replaced because of the purple tint camera issue. That was a hardware issue with the camera itself (or perhaps the assembly process) on the first batch, this unfortunately is 'just' a back problem probably due to the last minute change from glass to plastic and not the camera itself.

we can only speculate. They wont fix it with a fw update. Changing the back panels are the only thing sony could do. are they gona do it? i dont know, and i dont think so
ps: i also had to repaint it, but now its fixed. the paint stays longer on the second or third time that you paint it.
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Riyal said:
Ever heard of HTC One purple tint issue on camera? I'm pretty sure it's a hundred fold worse than this camera issue and up to now HTC didn't provide any official recall or fix for this problem. AFAIK this issue only shows up on situations where an image would be worthless. I mean who takes picture of a black sky without any objects? Or takes a picture on a empty dark room without any focused subject nor takes a portrait picture of an object which is on a far distance than normal. All I can say is take it easy... Just use the camera normally and you won't encounter the issue. I've done low light pictures from the compact already from night concerts, Selfies on night, low light shots on some friends and stuff and I haven't encountered the light bleed issue. The only way I can reproduce it is if I take a picture of the sky, taking a picture of something a few meters away from me or taking picture on a empty dark room(ghost hunting? ).
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i disagree. yes this bleed is a lot worse when taking a nightsky pic, or in a complete dark room, wich are things that you probably wont do. but you can also reproduce it under situation that you might come in the future where light is low, but not complete dark.

profyler said:
we can only speculate. They wont fix it with a fw update. Changing the back panels are the only thing sony could do. are they gona do it? i dont know, and i dont think so
ps: i also had to repaint it, but now its fixed. the paint stays longer on the second or third time that you paint it.
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i disagree. yes this bleed is a lot worse when taking a nightsky pic, or in a complete dark room, wich are things that you probably wont do. but you can also reproduce it under situation that you might come in the future where light is low, but not complete dark.
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Yeah,i had blue tint in 2m my dark room and on potrait of guitar in dark pub so you can reproduce it quite easy(painting did the job after though)

Ok so I guess the color of the phone does indeed matter. Since I really can't reproduce the light bleed easily without that much effort. Also with HTC One issue. For previous owners we know that it took HTC almost a year before recognizing it as a hardware issue and keep denying it for months right? And yeah they didn't provide any recall. They just simply say that it's a software issue and will be fixed on future updates and is only fixing phones that are sent to their service centre.

on HTC One X we have green tint when using flash , but it can be fix by a software http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36287923&postcount=1

No light bleed here but I have black.

Riyal said:
Ok so I guess the color of the phone does indeed matter. Since I really can't reproduce the light bleed easily without that much effort. Also with HTC One issue. For previous owners we know that it took HTC almost a year before recognizing it as a hardware issue and keep denying it for months right? And yeah they didn't provide any recall. They just simply say that it's a software issue and will be fixed on future updates and is only fixing phones that are sent to their service centre.
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What color is your device mate?

gabi11 said:
What color is your device mate?
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@gabi11
Same as @Arup ZR color black.

Arup ZR said:
No light bleed here but I have black.
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How is that possible that you don't have the light bleed issue? Did you make that photograph as described (i.e. of the sky at night with flash on)? When did you buy your phone (or what is its manufacturing date)?

Riyal said:
Ok so I guess the color of the phone does indeed matter. Since I really can't reproduce the light bleed easily without that much effort. Also with HTC One issue. For previous owners we know that it took HTC almost a year before recognizing it as a hardware issue and keep denying it for months right? And yeah they didn't provide any recall. They just simply say that it's a software issue and will be fixed on future updates and is only fixing phones that are sent to their service centre.
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Actually my HTC didn't have the problem at first, it only started after the 4.3 update. Then I just waited for 4.4 in hope of a fix, obviously nothing happened so I sent it for repairs. My friend's had this issue since the beginning on 4.2.
Anyway, I think we are being a bit off topic here

vetko said:
How is that possible that you don't have the light bleed issue? Did you make that photograph as described (i.e. of the sky at night with flash on)? When did you buy your phone (or what is its manufacturing date)?
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Yes will post it later but bear in mind I have it in black and also use the included leather case.

Arup ZR said:
Yes will post it later but bear in mind I have it in black and also use the included leather case.
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I also plan to buy the black one, but all users are reporting flash bleed even with that. Also, I don't think the leather case would change anything, because the light finds its way into the camera through the plastic back, which the leather case can not prevent. Just to be sure, could you try taking those photos without the leather case?
I really hope that Sony fixed this (at least quietly in the background). When did you purchase it?

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I also plan to buy the black one, but all users are reporting flash bleed even with that. Also, I don't think the leather case would change anything, because the light finds its way into the camera through the plastic back, which the leather case can not prevent. Just to be sure, could you try taking those photos without the leather case?
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Few days back.

Arup ZR said:
Few days back.
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:good: So that may be really good news for all of us if you really don't have the bleed . Could you post those photos somewhen today? Thanks.

I was talking with the support about these cam and beelding problems.
The short version is: sony gives a fack about these problems. So dont except any update for that.

vetko said:
:good: So that may be really good news for all of us if you really don't have the bleed . Could you post those photos somewhen today? Thanks.
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Will try........overall am very pleased with this phone and its cam, I do own a 808 and spate of SLRs so this one is competing very well with them. Only thing thats needed is RAW support and more controls in manual mode, truly lacking compared to my 808.

Milltach said:
I was talking with the support about these cam and beelding problems.
The short version is: sony gives a fack about these problems. So dont except any update for that.
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Or they just don't want to make it official/public, so that they don't have to replace all already sold models. (As in case of the earlier mentioned HTC issue)

other forum do said sony has an updated version of this that solve the problem few weeks back. Not sure about credibility

Picture Quality

Has anyone noticed that their pictures have a blueish tint to them in low light shots? I think T-Mobile calibrated their lenses differently than AT&T G3's. The difference in picture color is very noticeable. Every TMO G3 I've tried looks exactly the same which is blueish. I had my TMO G3 exchanged because of it and the new one is exactly the same. The store models were the same also. I took the same picture with the front facing camera and you can see the difference there also. It's not as noticeable in bright light or outdoors. They look ok when taken there. I honestly think it's the way the lens or app is calibrated. I think the carriers mess with the software. I also noticed that the color of the Messaging app is lighter in the TMO G3 than the ATT G3. It's more of a pastel yellow instead of the brighter orange. I've also tested that on several different G3's of each version.
I attached one from the AT&T G3 and 2 from the TMO G3 (Front facing and rear):
P.S. I took the media_profile.xml, camera_profile.xml (I think that's what it's called), and media_codecs.xml from the ATT G3 and copied them to the TMO G3 and it didn't make a difference. Does anyone know if maybe this is an ISO or other setting that isn't set right? If so, what file in the system controls that? The LG camera doesn't have those manual options.

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Has anyone noticed that their pictures have a blueish tint to them in low light shots? I think T-Mobile calibrated their lenses differently than AT&T G3's. The difference in picture color is very noticeable. Every TMO G3 I've tried looks exactly the same which is blueish. I had my TMO G3 exchanged because of it and the new one is exactly the same. The store models were the same also. I took the same picture with the front facing camera and you can see the difference there also. It's not as noticeable in bright light or outdoors. They look ok when taken there. I honestly think it's the way the lens or app is calibrated. I think the carriers mess with the software. I also noticed that the color of the Messaging app is lighter in the TMO G3 than the ATT G3. It's more of a pastel yellow instead of the brighter orange. I've also tested that on several different G3's of each version.
I attached one from the AT&T G3 and 2 from the TMO G3 (Front facing and rear):
P.S. I took the media_profile.xml, camera_profile.xml (I think that's what it's called), and media_codecs.xml from the ATT G3 and copied them to the TMO G3 and it didn't make a difference. Does anyone know if maybe this is an ISO or other setting that isn't set right? If so, what file in the system controls that? The LG camera doesn't have those manual options.
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Interesting. I have noticed the blue tint on my G3 in low light with the rear camera. It takes a LOT of warmth adjustments to make it disappear, but it can be corrected. I didn't think there was a difference between carrier versions. Ours seems to be pretty bad at white balance adjustment.

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Interesting. I have noticed the blue tint on my G3 in low light with the rear camera. It takes a LOT of warmth adjustments to make it disappear, but it can be corrected. I didn't think there was a difference between carrier versions. Ours seems to be pretty bad at white balance adjustment.
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How did you adjust it?

Whitebalance is very good on mine in all different conditions. Still looks great on my calibrated IPS monitors.

I use that Camera 2 app and my pictures turn out just fine.
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willdiddy said:
I use that Camera 2 app and my pictures turn out just fine.
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I don't wanna use a different camera app. The laser focus only works with that. There must be a file to change white balance somewhere.

I'm experiencing the same issue. I would hope that an LG update would resolve this, but I bet XDA developers can beat them to the fix
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How low of a light are you talking about I tried a few and they came out find and I have it on naturally.
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Here's two shots i took. One is without flash to show you the low light and the second with flash. Don't mind the dust and cobwebs... Been lazy to clean behind my desk lol
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Tidbits said:
How low of a light are you talking about I tried a few and they came out find and I have it on naturally.
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Here's two shots i took. One is without flash to show you the low light and the second with flash. Don't mind the dust and cobwebs... Been lazy to clean behind my desk lol
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Check the pictures in the OP. My bathroom light is on.

I saw the OP but i can't tell how much lighting from thw photos. I guess i have too many bright lights in my house to see. The only time i saw that kind of blue was my Moto Droid 3 regardless of lighting conditions.
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I think it's the way the app is calibrated because for a split second when I open the app, it looks like the picture of the ATT one and then changes to that blue tint.

Skizzy034 said:
How did you adjust it?
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I post processed with Snapseed. The N5 photos always needed some adjustment too
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00dahc said:
Whitebalance is very good on mine in all different conditions. Still looks great on my calibrated IPS monitors.
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Do you use the flash in low light? I don't, and this is when I get white balance issues. Maybe that's the problem, the camera is calibrated to work with a flash, or, it's not properly calibrated for no flash in low light.

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I post processed with Snapseed. The N5 photos always needed some adjustment too
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Do you use the flash in low light? I don't, and this is when I get white balance issues. Maybe that's the problem, the camera is calibrated to work with a flash, or, it's not properly calibrated for no flash in low light.
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I never use flash unless absolutely needed. No flash.

Mine is little yellowish too on low light.

It looks like your bathroom "Blueish" photo was shot under fluorescent lighting? Fluorescent bulbs put out almost all blue frequencies of light. See if it does the same thing outdoors under low natural light, or indoors using incandescent (old school bulb) lighting. Incandescent lighting is mostly red. This is one of the reasons I always use a real Canon camera if I want to take decent indoor shots. I have 4 Canon cameras. Does your camera app have adjustments to set the lighting type like a real camera does? I think even my Samdung S4 has settings for incandescent, fluorescent, and all that.
- Joe

JoeLansing said:
It looks like your bathroom "Blueish" photo was shot under fluorescent lighting? Fluorescent bulbs put out almost all blue frequencies of light. See if it does the same thing outdoors under low natural light, or indoors using incandescent (old school bulb) lighting. Incandescent lighting is mostly red. This is one of the reasons I always use a real Canon camera if I want to take decent indoor shots. I have 4 Canon cameras. Does your camera app have adjustments to set the lighting type like a real camera does? I think even my Samdung S4 has settings for incandescent, fluorescent, and all that.
- Joe
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The same pic was taken with an AT&T G3 and it looked fine. LG removed all manual options to adjust settings =/.

Skizzy034 said:
The same pic was taken with an AT&T G3 and it looked fine. LG removed all manual options to adjust settings =/.
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Well that stinks. If you can't adjust settings you are stuck, or need a new app. Or do what I did and use a camera for a camera, and a phone for a phone... I will concede using tablet as a phone, but a camera is still a camera if you want good photos all the time. I got my 8 year old son a Canon Elph 135 at Target for $99 and it's good to go indoors or outside..
- Joe

I have Jishnu looking at the apk now.

I think it takes incredible outdoor pictures. Its the indoor low light ones that aren't that great.

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Has anyone noticed that their pictures have a blueish tint to them in low light shots? I think T-Mobile calibrated their lenses differently than AT&T G3's. The difference in picture color is very noticeable. Every TMO G3 I've tried looks exactly the same which is blueish. I had my TMO G3 exchanged because of it and the new one is exactly the same. The store models were the same also. I took the same picture with the front facing camera and you can see the difference there also. It's not as noticeable in bright light or outdoors. They look ok when taken there. I honestly think it's the way the lens or app is calibrated. I think the carriers mess with the software. I also noticed that the color of the Messaging app is lighter in the TMO G3 than the ATT G3. It's more of a pastel yellow instead of the brighter orange. I've also tested that on several different G3's of each version.
I attached one from the AT&T G3 and 2 from the TMO G3 (Front facing and rear):
P.S. I took the media_profile.xml, camera_profile.xml (I think that's what it's called), and media_codecs.xml from the ATT G3 and copied them to the TMO G3 and it didn't make a difference. Does anyone know if maybe this is an ISO or other setting that isn't set right? If so, what file in the system controls that? The LG camera doesn't have those manual options.
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I noticed that when I turn off HDR in low light, the quality of the photo improves dramatically. Less static and more true to the real colors.
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Here are examples of indoor low light. One with HDR Auto and one with HDR Off.
It makes a huge difference.
HDR Auto
HDR Off

Bad "backlight" uniformity?

Hi all,
Had my Pixel for a few days now and noticed what I thought was a new gradient in the background of posts in the XDA labs app, I checked the screen using one of the grey test colours and found that I'm getting a dark cloud over the bottom right hand side of my screen. I tried taking a photo with my old phone (Moto X Pure) but the camera isn't good enough at low light for it to show up, I'll try and get a photo with my DSLR when I'm back from work later today. In the mean time some quick googling has shown it's very similar to the "Dirty Screen Effect" described here: http://www.rtings.com/tv/tests/picture-quality/gray-uniformity-dirty-screen-effect-dse
Had anyone else noticed this? Do you think Google would RMA it? I've not really been bothered by the blue shift on my device so I'm slightly concerned that I might end up with a worse replacement if I do send it back
Cheers
Michael

It's a tough call, you have to ask yourself if you can live with it or not. Does it show up a lot during normal usage? Or is it just with the XDA labs app and similar applications in a low light setting with your brightness turned to like 0-10%? Or if you can see it at all times regardless of brightness settings you can contact Google tell them of the screen issue and get a RMA. Check out the replacement and compare the blue shift to your current and see if it also has the same issue as your current device. If it's better in both regards send it back, if the blue shift is a bit worse on the one and you can tolerate it and it doesn't have the bad back light uniformity you could keep it. That's what I would do personally, best of luck!

Yes, I have a similar issue. My first device had severe blue tint at any angle and Google would not replace so I returned and and reordered. The second device had only slight blue tint and is not an issue but of course has the uneven grays. The right side of the screen is much darker and there is also a dark spot around the sim tray area on the left side. I sent Google pictures and they are sending a replacement. It's only noticable in low light, looks fine at higher brightness though.

Ah I didn't realize they sent you the replacement first. That makes it a much easier decision. I'll still try and add a photo of it in the OP later today but RMA seems like the best choice. It's noticeable at lower backlight brightness and since it's winter here in the UK now the auto-brightness often drops it down to a level where it is noticeable just in normal daily use.

I get a VERY slight hint of that on a dark gray background at 5-7% brightness in a totally dark room but other than that very specific condition it's uniform otherwise.

The photo as promised unedited straight out of the camera (USB C OTG is neat). It's not quite this bad in person, if you imagine the light grey is the same shade as the dark grey in this image and the dark grey as being almost black then you get the idea, but it does show the difference between the two and it is clearly visible with the naked eye in a dark room.
The grey image I'm using is here: https://i1.wp.com/ausdroid.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/screenshot_20171022-153201.png?ssl=1

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The photo as promised unedited straight out of the camera (USB C OTG is neat). It's not quite this bad in person, if you imagine the light grey is the same shade as the dark grey in this image and the dark grey as being almost black then you get the idea, but it does show the difference between the two and it is clearly visible with the naked eye in a dark room.
The grey image I'm using is here: https://i1.wp.com/ausdroid.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/screenshot_20171022-153201.png?ssl=1
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Woah! Holy crap that's pretty bad. I would RMA that bad boy right away.