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I don't understand why people will sell there galaxy S III for the nexus 4. Galaxy S III comes with a with micro sd slot, bigger display, better front facing camera, and LTE.
I understand that the LG nexus is a nexus phone and always get update faster, wireless charging, and quad core. But I don't think it still outweighs the SIII. I think the SIII is still superior.
For those people that don't have either phone yes it be more difficult to choose mainly because the Nexus 4 Price is amazing for what it offers. but for those people with SIII how is this even debatable.
Is there something im missing?
much better processor. hspa+ 42meg compatible. no bloatware. possibly a better screen. wireless charging. I think you pretty much answered your own question. lol. not having lte isnt a huge deal breaker for me since I am near wifi almost always. Tradeoff is the 4 will probably have outstanding battery life. 16 gig is enough storage for me.
The fact that the nexus 4 doesn't have lte is a deal breaker for me. I didn't think lte was a huge thing until it finally came to me are, and now there is no way I would ever consider a phone without it.
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much better processor. hspa+ 42meg compatible. no bloatware. possibly a better screen. wireless charging. I think you pretty much answered your own question. lol. not having lte isnt a huge deal breaker for me since I am near wifi almost always. Tradeoff is the 4 will probably have outstanding battery life. 16 gig is enough storage for me.
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CPU is a quad core which is nice I agree but most the stuff on android don't utilize it, so its pretty pointless until later. No bloatware, we can already use custom roms or titanium to get rid of it. Not sure what to say about the screen I never seen it personally not going to judge it either. Wireless charging is cool I guess, but I doubt it charges faster then a direct connection. We can toggle off LTE and get pretty amazing battery life with the SIII both devices are both the same size battery. I agree16 gb is enough for me, but I like the fact that the SIII allows us to add more storage if we ever choose to. Maybe its because its new and its over hyped, i must admit at first I was like I want it. But I really thought about it and I realize its not worth it.
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The fact that the nexus 4 doesn't have lte is a deal breaker for me. I didn't think lte was a huge thing until it finally came to me are, and now there is no way I would ever consider a phone without it.
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Thats how I feel.
LTE is great. Those that say its "not ready for prime time yet" must not have it in their area or haven't tried it yet. I'd love to get the N4 but 21mbps HSPA on ATT in San Diego nets me all of 1mbps down and that's a no go. If its 42 mbps then maybe.
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The fact that the nexus 4 doesn't have lte is a deal breaker for me. I didn't think lte was a huge thing until it finally came to me are, and now there is no way I would ever consider a phone without it.
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+1 no Lte no way,16gb no where near enough space for me, shoot my 32gb sd card is almost full, no bloat not even an issue can be easily removed with titanium backup, my s3 dual core/2gb ram loads everything just fine, in my opinion I have yet to see another android manufactures phone screen that looks better than the s3, I have a nexus 7 and screen looks washed out compared to my s3, only other phone worth considering selling s3 for right now is the note 2 if you can deal with the size.
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The nexus 4 is nice and all, but it doesn't really do anything the s3 can't . And with the dev support we have here, we really don't need to wait for updates.
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If I wasn't getting the note 2 tomorrow, I'd be on the nexus 4, such a good price
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The fact that it is an lg phone should be plenty enough to keep me and it gets away. No thx
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3 main reasons I wont switch to a Nexus 4
1- I need 32g minimum
2- Its made by LG
3- Glass on the the back ? WTF ! I hate scratches.
Well it's a quad core.
Nexus line means direct support. First to get updates. Maybe I don't have to flash roms to get better battery life. Stock Android look.
Beautiful design. Cheap price. Don't use lte that much.
Better screen than s3
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Well it's a quad core.
Nexus line means direct support. First to get updates. Maybe I don't have to flash roms to get better battery life. Stock Android look.
Beautiful design. Cheap price. Don't use lte that much.
Better screen than s3
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Lol. First to get updates always makes me laugh. Hours after source is released which is when the nexus line gets their updates I have ROMs released for whatever device I own. So I guess in a way I'm first to get updates too.
1.) Its made by LG. That says enough I would think. I can most here all the complaints a month or two after releases about this not working, this is broken, etc..
2.) Better screen? Not sure how you can state this unless youve personally held the phone in your hand. Spec sheets arent always as they seem . Just remember which company is known for producing the best screens out there.
3.) It really all boils down to personal preference either way. But I'm sure we've all learned that newer isn't always better.
The only reason I'm considering it is because of the price. I would love the freedom of being eligible for an upgrade because att will bend over backwards to keep you. Before I upgraded to the gs3 I was considering moving to Verizon and att pretty much gave me $50 off my bill for the next 6 months and sold me the gs3 for $99.
But without a micro SD card I don't see no need to switch
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The fact that it is an lg phone should be plenty enough to keep me and it gets away. No thx
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This...
I'm sure it is a great device, I don't think Google would sully the nexus name with a bad piece of hardware, but the reputation that lg has is not the best in the game.
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I'd have to agree with the few that have noted LG - enough said. They have never been the brand I look to for phone tech - Samsung, HTC and Motorola are the only ones to consider.. The few LGs I've used/played with have been less than impressive.
Addition: Google has stated that they are releasing multiple Nexus devices, so if I were to give up my S3, I'd wait for the next Motorola or Samsung device.
I find it silly that people would sell their GS3 for this Nexus 4. No extra storage, no removable battery, no lte, no thanks.
It's great for anyone that doesn't live under LTE coverage and can't get out of their contract/don't want to upgrade and sign another contract.
I also find it funny that these same people who are praising the Nexus 4 are the same ones that knock the iphone (remember when the 4s came out?) Heavy on the fact that it doesn't have a removable battery, no expandable storage and no LTE. All of a sudden it's cool now? Get out of here...
Lg has crappy software support but with this being a nexus that's no longer an issue. Samsung is taking forever just to release 4.1.1 do y'all realistically see Samsung pushing out 4.2 this year? Even then we would wait for att also. There's not doubt that the phone will get this update eventually with cyanogen.
+1 on no chance of getting it because it doesn't have micro sd or removable battery. I could probably handle the battery, but not the lack of micro sd.
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I would be willing to go out on a limb and give LG a try for a Nexus device but...no removable SD is a complete deal breaker for me. Cloud storage is not a good substitute for local storage yet. And 8GB or 16GB just isn't cutting it anymore. I hope the SGS4 has a 32 & 64 GB version with removable storage. I love my 50GB dropbox (thank you Samsung) but it just isn't the same as direct attached storage.
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2.) Better screen? Not sure how you can state this unless youve personally held the phone in your hand. Spec sheets arent always as they seem . Just remember which company is known for producing the best screens out there.
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Technologically, it is pretty much undeniable that the screen is better. It can't produce as much vibrancy, but it is so much better on color preciseness. I don't notice it that much on my S3, but when I stick it next to a relative's One X it's pretty obvious that the whites aren't white and some other colors are slightly off as well. In day to day use, I don't care. But, seriously... dat screen...
Im eligible for an upgrade. After thinking about it, I think the camera is my most used function after the phone itself. That being said, I'm trying to get opinions of people who have switched from Samsungs to LG's.. I'm considering the LG G3 vs. Samsung Galaxy 5 vs. Note3. I've watched reviews and read articles. Looking to get the respected views of the XDA community before I pull the trigger.
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Im eligible for an upgrade. After thinking about it, I think the camera is my most used function after the phone itself. That being said, I'm trying to get opinions of people who have switched from Samsungs to LG's.. I'm considering the LG G3 vs. Samsung Galaxy 5 vs. Note3. I've watched reviews and read articles. Looking to get the respected views of the XDA community before I pull the trigger.
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yes I am very happy with the LG G3 phone find this to have much better connection performance than the Samsung Note 3 as well as the size is very decent and the actual screen size is not that different
the camera performance is also exceptional especially in low light conditions I find this to be much superior
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However you may wanna see what else is coming up such as nexus 6, but realistically the G3 is a great device.
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Im eligible for an upgrade. After thinking about it, I think the camera is my most used function after the phone itself. That being said, I'm trying to get opinions of people who have switched from Samsungs to LG's.. I'm considering the LG G3 vs. Samsung Galaxy 5 vs. Note3. I've watched reviews and read articles. Looking to get the respected views of the XDA community before I pull the trigger.
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Came from S3 to G3. I played with my buddys S5 and was very disappointed in the size to screen ratio. On top of that, the whole knox thing, so i am happy that i dont have a samsung phone anymore.
Galaxy S5 looks like a kiddies toy compared to the G3
The camera on the G3 is amazing. I love this phone so much better then my Note 2.
I came from the Samsung Galaxy s4. Couldn't be happier with my decision. Better signal, nicer screen to device size ratio, better software than TouchJizz, and I know lots of ppl are complaining about the lag and the 801 not being ready for 1440p screen but I haven't had any issues and it's been way nice. No more lag than the s4 I had to go to a gpe ROM to get rid of it on the s4. Overall I love it and an glad I made the switch.
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Came from a nexus 4 and a sgs2 before that. I'm probably not as picky about things as others. Being that I am on t-mobile and can flash roms that are out there I'm pretty happy with the phone. Any complaints I had about the phone before installed the zone rom are gone. I don't care about battery because I'm usually near power. So all in all happy.
Hello hazard99, any chances you've got access to an AT&T SIM, I'd like to know if it gets lte on AT&T. Thanks
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I believe the S5 is a great device after rooted and with a custom ROM (Snapdragon version, Exynos is a big load of crap). The pictures come out better on the S5 but don't trust in the waterproof feature (it's my honest opinion). The G3 is an excellent device and feels more solid and responsive, but the developer community is still a little slow (due to locked bootloader), but I think it'll get a lot better with time.
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I love my G3 but I miss my s5 at times, but mainly for my gear 2 watch. The G3 is IMO the perfect compromise between the nexus five and the s5. It's more or less what I expected from the s5 before I found out it was a incremental upgrade of the s4 which was an incremental upgrade of the s3. I too am looking forward to a bootloader solution. That being said I find that the G3 still needs a little fine tuning but I'm glad to be rid of Samsung. They ain't gettin no more of my money, for their phones that is.
Coming from a Galaxy S4 and still using the Note 3.
I didn't think the S5 had enough improvements to warrant an upgrade from a S4.
The only downside is that the International G3 D855 has a locked bootloader whereas my old S4 didn't. I had no fears of Flashing whatever to my S4 and if I ever messed up, it is only a few buttons of pressing from Recovery. I can't do that with my G3. I am very cautious on what I change/modify on my G3. Other than that, I love my G3
Had Samsung for a long time. Since G2, I never looked back. G3 is a huge improvement and I like how its closer to Google experience than Sammy or G2.
Plus when I heard LG was one of the companies signing up for the Google android initiative I have no doubts LG will have best phones and keep their updates coming.
Few things that are immediate .. Vibration. Strong and you'll have less missed calls. Touch .. Less touch delay means easier typing.
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I switched from Galaxy S4. I like this LG G3 so much more. 1 is design. I just think the rounded square look of Samsung is boring. 2 is display. Don't like unnatural colors of AMOLED. 3 is rarity. Too many Samsungs
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This thread might help you.
Well I came from a 4yr stint with my original Galaxy S (I9000) so it is a HUGE improvement lol I was going to upgrade to the S4 but when it came out I hated the design so thought the G2, but I couldn't do without an SD card and removable battery..then thought the S5/M8 but S5 design is **** & boring let's face it and the M8 is just a phone for sheep as everyone and their dog will get it because simply, it looks fantastic (like Beats headphones, but unlike Beats it actually IS real quality lol). Also, when I went into Carphone Warehouse, the advisor there told me the best phone they had was the M8 or alternatively the G3 second. The M8 is robust and solidly built and had never been brought back for repair in that particular shop. He said the G3 was just as good but that most people went on brand name so didn't trust or know what it had to offer; himself included until an LG rep came and showed them. He told me to stay away from all Samsung phones (S5/Note 3) as they are the top returns for repair with such things as the battery expanding so it doesn't fit anymore.
Yes I miss the opportunities for custom ROMs but I'm sure this will happen soon as it does with every phone - is there actually any phone that cannot absolutely be hacked in some way at some stage? The other thing is that Samsung officially stopped supporting the I9000 2yrs after they released it so I think ICS was the last official ROM and to get GB you had to install custom. Tbh I remember reading and hearing from people that LG pretty much do the same thing but thesedays that doesn't matter to me as I would never stay stuck on stock if there are custom ROMs available, and I'm positive that most phones will have active development communities for years past their sell by date.
I am extremely happy with my G3 and not sure if I would go back to Samsung again in the future when there are so many worthy and equal/superior contenders out now.
Thanks for all the replies! I'm going to wait a bit and see if any new phones are released, this IS that time of year, isn't it?.. I don't know how much longer I can put up with my Epic 4g Ive been using the last 2 weeks, since I *lost* my Note2.. :crying:
Come from note 3 and I want to say that lg g3 is a great phone however I'm on 10 H EUR version 32GB 3gb ram and when i try to make a video on high resolution the screen freezes and get An error, I'm not rooted or anything else now I'm looking to see what note 4 will look like if it get my expectations i will sale this becouse of lack of developing
Btw i tried make few photos and phone frezed and restarted and got a botloop had to reset to factory settings so I'm not so satisfied about the product yea the screen is great but when you come from a phone that can do anything with it I mean i like flash stuff custom roms and so on to pretty much standard is a down to me as for battery life if you read email and stay a bit on Facebook and so on you will get a full day but if you pay on it or your a hard user you will need battery replacement so my advice wait for the competitions to come out
I came from... Well loads of different devices like the note 2, mi3, nexus 4,5 and htc butterfly s. Half have locked bootloaders and the other don't. The ones that did the software wasn't lagging up the phone so not much issues. But on the note 2 nexus 4 and 5 being able to mod the system and flash stuff without worrying to much of bricking the phone is a plus. Where as you can't do the same on the G3 at the moment. My G3 is just lagging compared to my other two SD800 phones for some reason :S
I came from a Galaxy S3 and I doubt I will ever go back to Samsung. Too many hardware issues. Everyone I know with Samsung phones are always complaining about the usb ports (which I had issues with too) I have an old LG GT540 from 6 years ago and that thing still kicks around.
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Hexxor you need to go on the development portion if the forum and you will find on how to speed up the phone. Mine is silky smooth
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stas333 said:
Came from S3 to G3. I played with my buddys S5 and was very disappointed in the size to screen ratio. On top of that, the whole knox thing, so i am happy that i dont have a samsung phone anymore.
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that "knox thing" will be part of next android by google (check IO 2014)
I'm not sure where the right place is to put this question.
It's a real question for me, dominated by the fact that the specs look pretty similar (except no. Locked bootloader etx) , but the price will be significantly lower. Of. Course we don't have the facts yet, but I'm holding off until the nexus 6 announcement before pulling the trigger on one of them.
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This is a very odd question to me. Do you want a high productivity phablet with the s-pen, touchwiz and a ton of features, or do you want a no frills stock Android device?
They are two extremely opposite phones.
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This is a very odd question to me. Do you want a high productivity tablet with the s-pen, touchwiz and a ton of features, or do you want a no frills stock Android device?
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In every Note forum there are always a slew of people who obviously are consumption users that don't need/want/care about all the features that, to me, are what make a Note a "Note."
Here's an interesting survey...
Clearly 35% would be better off without S Pen and 40% wouldn't miss it terribly if it weren't there. For them, like OP, any big screened phone would do.
Here's the current supposed specs of the Nexus 6...
The Nexus 6 is all but a secret at this point with a multitude of leaks telling us everything we needed to know about the handset. The smartphone is expected to be packing a 5.9 inch Quad HD display, a 13-megapixel camera with OIS, 3GB of RAM, a Snapdragon 805 chipset, a refined version of Android L (Android 5.0) and a mammoth 3,300 mAh battery. It could be shown off sometime later this month, possibly during Halloween. Google announced the Nexus 5 quietly during Halloween last year, so there’s no reason why the trend shouldn’t continue this year.
http://thedroidguy.com/2014/10/motorola-nexus-6-hits-fcc-certification-98187#z8pV1eRuP2vkzxdm.97It's pretty close to the Note 4. But... Google's camera's have always sucked, the display will most likely be decent but not fantastic, and battery life will probably be worse because, for some reason, Google has a hard time tuning battery usage on their own phones. Add to that it won't have expandable storage and most likely come in 32/64GB versions. Second but... The 32GB version will probably be $499-549 which undercuts the Note 3 by almost $300 which for those that could care less about S Pen and the faults I listed makes it a great value. That and it'll get updated directly from Google are its two biggest benefits over the Note 4.
My biggest issue so far in thinking about a Nexus 6 (or whatever it will be called) is the fact that Samsung/AT&T has been locking down the Note to the point where they void the warranty as soon as the knox is tripped.
That and the fact that the Note 2 is my third Samsung device and I want to try a different route.
They are the same, aside from the pen, which I never use on all three of my notes. And far nicer not to have all the bloatware I never used.
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They are the same, aside from the pen, which I never use on all three of my notes. And far nicer not to have all the bloatware I never used.
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Sight unseen I'd bet anyone here the camera's worse, the display not as good, and the battery life poorer. Those traits are more or less "Nexus things" unless something changes this round. Now whether this time with Motorola it's different is a wild card. But there were a ton of issues with the first Moto X when it came out (I don't know if they all got resolved, I don't follow Motorola). And a potentially huge not "the same" is the lack of external storage. Want to show off full res vids on that spiffy new QHD display? You better have a 128GB external MicroSD, be on an old AT&T unlimited plan, or get on the "pay for 15GB, get 30GB" plan before it expires. I'm not bashing the Nexus 6 (especially because you can't bash vapor ) just saying they've never been the "same." Where they win hands down is value and that probably won't change this round.
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They are the same, aside from the pen, which I never use on all three of my notes. And far nicer not to have all the bloatware I never used.
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Stock Android and Touchwiz are the same? I'm sorry, but I don't agree. At all.
IMO, the two devices can't be more different.
I'm not such a fan of touchwiz and the bells and whistles, that's all. And I usually load up a different launcher in any case. The decision for me will be based on the quality of the screen (which to be realistic, is probably a Samsung win...). I guess we will see.
By the way since my Note 1, I have bought and returned so many devices which the Samsung Note beat out for me. Same on note 2 and Note 3 (the last one being the g3). The Note has won every time. So far...
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I'm not such a fan of touchwiz and the bells and whistles, that's all. And I usually load up a different launcher in any case. The decision for me will be based on the quality of the screen (which to be realistic, is probably a Samsung win...). I guess we will see.
By the way since my Note 1, I have bought and returned so many devices which the Samsung Note beat out for me. Same on note 2 and Note 3 (the last one being the g3). The Note has won every time. So far...
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Yeah bro, I can almost bet anything that the Note 4 screen will kill the Nexus 6 screen. Not only are Nexus screens of lower quality compared to the competition (to cut costs), but it will also most likely be a LCD. Which I don't like compared to SAMOLED anyway.
I'm curious to see which direction you go, but the Note 4 is a killer package. I have played with it a few times at my local Best Buy.
Good luck!
I have gone into so many best buys to try out the Note 4 and I think it's lovely. ( I wouldn't buy the edge as I think it will be difficult to sell 2nd hand down the road.) But sometimes I need a change (and frankly the 4 is not that different to my Note 3). I'm sure I will buy both... But, Highlander, there can be only one (and as I mentioned above Sammy has won every other battle)...
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This is a very odd question to me. Do you want a high productivity phablet with the s-pen, touchwiz and a ton of features, or do you want a no frills stock Android device?
They are two extremely opposite phones.
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DING DING DING. We have a winner!
It is puzzling to me that people are asking about Moto X and crap vs. a Note 4.
The Note 4 is an S pen enhanced phablet, half the questions are about plain old stock large screen phones. Different audience for the most part. I imagine there are people that will buy the Note 4 just for the size and never touch the things that make it what it is.
Go see nexus 6 section as there is a great discussion on Note 4 v Nexus 6
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So obviously VZN and ATT lock em up pretty tight, but T-Mobile's G4 will hopefully have an unlockable bootloader. So the question is, assuming that happens, which 2015 device do you think will have the best Dev community? I think the G4 has a lot of potential. It's one of the few devices with a Qualcomm chip... and one that doesn't overheat... plus it has a removable SD card slot, a removable battery, a great screen, a very good camera and an interesting back cover. Obviously the One M9 has a solid dev community. What Chinese phones will make it to the US? They often times have unlockable bootloaders, right? My only concern there is security. What do you guys think,?
The best development community will always be whichever Nexus phone is the current model.
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The best development community will always be whichever Nexus phone is the current model.
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The Nexus range is a flashaholics dream. I have a phone I use as a daily and a Nexus 6 just for my flashaholism.
The prob with the Nexus 6 is the SoC, camera, size, etc. The G4 is better in so many ways... Ymmv
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The prob with the Nexus 6 is the SoC, camera, size, etc. The G4 is better in so many ways... Ymmv
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With exception of probably a better camera on the lg4, not too sure about the others. That is subjective. N6 is blazing fast and the right size for many of us.
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The prob with the Nexus 6 is the SoC, camera, size, etc. The G4 is better in so many ways... Ymmv
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im with this guy. G4 all da way !! :good::good::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
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With exception of probably a better camera on the lg4, not too sure about the others. That is subjective. N6 is blazing fast and the right size for many of us.
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I just find it interesting that Google released LP on a Nexus device with a 32bit chip despite talking up the 64bit capability of LP. I want this next phone to last me a minimum of 12 months but preferably 18-24 and I think apps within the next 6-12 months will start to take advantage of 64 bit processing. With the G4 I love the ability to replace the battery, add an ext SD card, use Quick Charge 2.0, have the improved screen that is apparently not too battery abusive and get wireless charging with the folio cover. Plus I have this probably unfounded hunch that Quick Charge 2.0 might decrease the batteries lifetime. Since the G4 has a replaceable battery that is a non issue.
Edit: the camera looks pretty impressive, too.
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The prob with the Nexus 6 is the SoC, camera, size, etc. The G4 is better in so many ways... Ymmv
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Currently the best phone of 2015 ?
Overall?
Got to be the G4. No doubt.
At the moment the G4 is the best what u can get for sure....
But saw some teasers from Oneplus... Curious what the have to offer... Only the invitation system sucks.
Only minus... There is not much activity here... Hope when the other bootloaders are unlocked (mine is) developers will provide us nice candy's.
Always had HTC which were unlocked in a few days. And busy community on XDA.
As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs. Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
Is the LG overlay acceptable? (This is the only thing which really holds me off buying the G4 at the moment, because I really love stock Android)
Is LG offering some stock Android experience? (like HTC did)
How fast the software updates get released?
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As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs. Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
Is the LG overlay acceptable? (This is the only thing which really holds me off buying the G4 at the moment, because I really love stock Android)
Is LG offering some stock Android experience? (like HTC did)
How fast the software updates get released?
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This decision is really up to what features you find value in. I love my G4 and you would have to decide if you want a phone that has removable battery and expandable storage to say have fingerprint scanner and the latest OS. These phones are different in a lot of ways.
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I picked up the G4 the day it came out,so I've had a good few months with it. Definitely no regrets. Coming from Samsung, it's a much less intrusive version of Android..... Than say... Touchwizz. It could benefit from extra features for battery saving mode like on the Sony or SAMSUNG, but it easily lasts me a day.
One of the best cameras, used it on my recent trip Italy, if you are into photography... You can have a lot of fun.
With every phone you will find +/-, but sure you can probably get a good deal on aG4, making it a real phone to consider.
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theliquid said:
As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs. Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
Is the LG overlay acceptable? (This is the only thing which really holds me off buying the G4 at the moment, because I really love stock Android)
Is LG offering some stock Android experience? (like HTC did)
How fast the software updates get released?
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I can answer one of those questions: the overlay is acceptable, because 99.5% of the time I don't see it because I use the camera/browser/gallery/app of choice, instead of playing with the settings. That might be different in your case, but since you asked I thought I'd answer.
Hell! I'd recommend the G4 over their 6P! For that European price, I'd 100% recommend the G4 over it!!! No doubt about it! You can get the G4 for 420 euros! The 6P will be 650 and I still think the G4 will compare just as well Or even better in the camera department and battery life. Nexus' aren't known for battery life. Neither is the LG, but hey! ...
theliquid said:
As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs.
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what about the P variant ?
was a bit disappointed with the 5X specs too. with only 2gb, what reason is there to upgrade from the nexus 5 ?
Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
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Not for you, for a lot of non-purists, yes.
Is the LG overlay acceptable? (This is the only thing which really holds me off buying the G4 at the moment, because I really love stock Android)
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exactly. will not mix with 'Hello Kitty'
Is LG offering some stock Android experience? (like HTC did)
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there is the sense mod if you are rooted. but this available for any android.
How fast the software updates get released?
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no where as fast as you would get on nexus. they come in time though.
I'm also looking at ordering the G4 after the disappointment of the 5X, but it looks like LG will always gimp Nexus devices so it won't compete with their own flagship.
LG seems to be the only manufacturer left that give all the choices for users, even Samsung is going Apple direction.
I find LG interface to be much more bearable than Samsung which to me personally is unusable. This is helped by the fact of on-screen buttons. But I'm just waiting for CyanogenMod availability.
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eksasol said:
I'm also looking at ordering the G4 after the disappointment of the 5X, but it looks like LG will always gimp Nexus devices so it won't compete with their own flagship.
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Then you are not a typical nexus user. You are interested in nexus only because updates are regular and this keeps the value of your device up.
You really prefer to have the extra 'features' every non nexus device offers.
So is this the same as the OP or not.
LG seems to be the only manufacturer left that give all the choices for users, even Samsung is going Apple direction.
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some would say they have exceeded apple in terms of build and quality with their offerings this year.
But I'm just waiting for CyanogenMod availability.
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if you don't need the camera...
Actually Dxomark already tested the new nexus and it came 2nd, after the galaxy s6, beating lg g4 with 1 point. Oops.
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Actually Dxomark already tested the new nexus and it came 2nd, after the galaxy s6, beating lg g4 with 1 point. Oops.
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86 in photo and 79 in video for both but one has 84 points and G4 83 points, anyways DxoMark just sucks, a french reviewer... never in low light
I'm disappointed in the 5x because of the faux look of dual front speakers when in reality one is just an earpiece speaker, nothing more and lack of qi charging, and same outdated storage options. Really don't care about the lack of RAM, not like I can tell a difference going from the G4 to nexus 5, though all of it is hard to justify at $380 when you pay $20 more and get 3gb of ram, a 5.7 inch 2k screen, and an SD slot by choosing a moto x pure edition. 5x specs would be fine with nexus 4 pricing tiers
To answer your question if you're a purist like me, LG UX will drive you bonkers. So much stuff they changed just to be different that doesn't really have a purpose. I like it overall OK but have already decided I'm going back to a nexus or a moto next year. Also the memory leak is in full effect on it as LG has written 5.1.1 off as "too minor to even bother with" which means it won't get fixed until you get marshmallow which probably won't be until 2016
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neflictus said:
Actually Dxomark already tested the new nexus and it came 2nd, after the galaxy s6, beating lg g4 with 1 point. Oops.
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That was quick but the most interesting scores are the N6P is top for texture in stills beating the S6 & G4 and beating both again for Noise by 4 points.
I think the comparisons of N6P against S6/G4 are going to be interesting, hard as it might be to believe, expect the N6P shots to look slightly better in details than the S6/G4. How to counter that ? reduce to 12MP on both, now noise & details will look sharper and the difference will be hard to tell. Still, this is an achievement for the N6P. The 6S+ did not get there. The Z5 did.
In terms of video stabilisation its a good ten points behind the G4 so jerky video.
12MP and 1/2.3" rear camera.
The big catch is that there is no OIS in either N5X or N6P, pretty shocking considering N5 & N6 had it. Go to the trouble to make a good camera and then leave out OIS. Seriously WTH!!!! So like the Z5 except the Z5 will have more features ootb. You better have good handholds a la xperia or M9 to get clear low light shots with these nexii.
What will the camera interface be like, google camera has always been very limited. 3rd party cams will be essential. And then we will find out just how slow the shutter gets to.
They left out wireless charging on both ! ok, i get it that morotola is crap at wireless charging but LG already nailed it with the 5, two years ago.
Course for those who want sd & removable battery, software is not going to be able to fix
I've just returned my LG G4 to get the Nexus 5x.
I loved the G4's camera but the bloatware, bluetooth issues, buggy smart unlock, constant notifications of "NFC may drain battery" when using my car dock, the big when you put it on charge, the bing when it finishes charging, the bing when you turn it on, the bing when you turn it off.... it stopped being an enjoyable device to use and it was all because of what LG had done to Android.
So I'm going back to stock android. Originally I was going to wait for a G4 AOSP or Cyanogen rom but with the announcement of the fantastic Nexus 5x camera I decided to make the move while I still could..
The feature list is cut down compared to the G4 but it is stuff I am not so concerned with. I've not used expandable storage since moving to use Google music, Photo, Docs, Keep and Drive. I've never used wireless charging, and I don't game on my phones so I am not worried about the 1gb less of ram, especially when my Nexus 4 uses nearly 1GB of ram less than the LG G4 when idling.
I got the G4 after trying almost all other phones out there. I had Z3, HTC One M9, S6, Nexus 6, Iphone 6, and now G4 and the G4 blows them all away.
It is quicker than the others, has no memory or multitasking issues contrary to some minor views in this thread, the bluetooth, 4g and wifi work perfectly, smart lock works fine too, the camera beats all of the other phones I owned, and the battery life is equal to if not better than all at 5 Hours SOT at 60% screen brightness.
The new google launcher is AWFUL so wanting that is just nonesense, and the LG launcher has replaced Nova for me, because it's just as customisable.
Nexus fans won't want it though because they want Stock = Boring, and prefer the boring look to a decent camera and features. Anyone expecting the new Nexus devices to actually have decent real world camera is praying to the wrong gods.
I have no memory leak issues with my Verizon model, and love 95% of this phone.
Coming from a Nexus/Moto X background, I find LG's ui decent and mostly easy to use. There are 2 or 3 little annoyances in how settings are accessed, but Nova Launcher fixes most design issues - an icon pack and new screen layout, plus gestures to shortcut to the settings I use most.
I world consider rooting to clean up the other small issues, but I'm a regular Android Pay user do I'm holding off until that all shakes out.
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G4 should be compared to 6p. 5x is mid range.
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Im a huge nexus fan ive owned all of them from the first HTC to the last motorola. I bought the g4 blindly to test the non nexus waters and this phone has blown me away especially after the updates and the camera is super amazing and no nexus can or will beat it. Dont get me wrong ill probably grab the new nexus 5 based on stock so i can have fun rooting and putting custom roms on it, but besides having cutting edge software it will be my secondary phone and ill stick with my g4 for everyday use. To be honest im a crack flasher and it feels good to not have that urge with my g4, i got root and thats all i needed to get rid of some things and add xposed to tweak it a bit. Very happy with my g4 and will likely get the g5 when it drops.
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theliquid said:
As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs. Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
Is the LG overlay acceptable? (This is the only thing which really holds me off buying the G4 at the moment, because I really love stock Android)
Is LG offering some stock Android experience? (like HTC did)
How fast the software updates get released?
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Hello, I bought the G4 for about a month and it has no problem till now. Everything is OK. The body design is a little bend and quite comfortable playing with the phone. But the price is a little bit expensive for me. I was impulsive to buy it. Fortunately it performs well overall.
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G4 should be compared to 6p. 5x is mid range.
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no, because G4 and 5X share same hardware.
theliquid said:
As the title says, I am really disappointed by the N5X price in Europe compared to the specs. Is the LG G4 still worth buying it?
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Yes. In terms of hardware, it's about even up. And the G4 also offers a miniSD slot, exchangeable battery, and nice back covers. Only possible drawback might be the battery live, probably mostly thanks to the G4's insane resolution.
Is the LG overlay acceptable?
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I don't like the LG icons, but that can be easily changed by using a different launcher like Nova. Also, the colors for toast messages and quick settings are a bit bright (cyan). And the mobile data protocol (LTE, G3, ...) is displayed as own icon instead of small text in the reception bar icon. Most of the rest can easily be ignored or even be disabled in the settings.
But a lot of this (and more) can be modified even without unlocking the bootloader. You can flash rooted ROMs via the cable firmware update screen, and then use FlashFire to flash other ZIP updates like Xposed or themed variants (warning: very slow...).
With the European H815 version, you can also unlock the bootloader, but you'll lose warranty, and it can't be unlocked. But it'll allow you to flash "more AOSP" ROMs. (Official CM12 is work in progress, but there's an inofficial port available.)
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Android M at least has been announced for the G4. I guess it's hard to tell even by LG's developers, as it depends on the changes made by Google.
But then, the changes made since Android 4.1 aren't that impressive anyway IMHO, and several recent updates had some teething troubles, so maybe it's not so bad to wait a bit longer...