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Good car radio with A2DP?

Can anybody recommend a good car radio with builtin A2DP, which can use my phones (Xperia X1) contacts directly (like the BMW X-Drive radio system in my fathers car) and is able to control my phone via AVRCP and maybe can show the current title playing?
Audio quality in general and especially in conjunction with A2DP streaming should be good..
Shouldn't cost more than 250 Euros..

The radio is one thing, the phone is another thing.
before flashing my P4000, my Pioneer DEH-P980BT was pure ****. it was relaly hard to connect the PDA with the HU.
once flashed, it worked 1st try. so you might to check with another HU to see if its hard to connect it before buying one !

sony xplod $125
Bought sony mex2500 a year ago, works fine. uptodate is mex2700 might be bt2700... Anyhow cheap, easy to install and works. Doesn't do title or other info on radio but can use remote control of radio to control music app on phone.

I'm buyed a Pioneer FH-P80BT and it's work perfectly with my TouchPro. Autoconnect is working both for phone BT and A2DP. A2DP sound quality is good, navi programs with voice work good without any glitches.
Also this device greatly copying my phonebook from phone to him and it's work with russian chars! (my previous Pioneer DEH-P55BT also have this feature but it didn't work at all).

The DEH-P980BT doesn't seem to be available on the european market..
The bt2700 might be an option, because it's a lot cheaper than the other radios and it has good ratings..
The FH-P80BT is a double DIN radio and is too big for my car..
Anyway thanks for your suggestions! Still looking for the perfect solution..

I'd like to add, are there any that can do AVRCP 1.3? (track title / artist info display too)?

a2dp toggle
You may have to use a2dp toggle to make it easier to connect to play music.
The sony has worked without complaint. Good luck.

Just bought a Sony MEX BT-3600U for 140 Euros.. Seems, that this is the best option for a good price..

gauner1986 said:
Just bought a Sony MEX BT-3600U for 140 Euros.. Seems, that this is the best option for a good price..
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Let us know how it goes. Depending on rom, you might need a2dptoggle.exe for simpler bluetooth connection for music. I usually, but always need to use it. Whoops looks like I said that already.

davewaave said:
Let us know how it goes. Depending on rom, you might need a2dptoggle.exe for simpler bluetooth connection for music. I usually, but always need to use it. Whoops looks like I said that already.
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Ah.. It's f***ing great from what i can say until now ^^. Good sound.. You can't even differ the A2DP music quality from the normal input music quality. Radio signal reception is also quite good..
But a small problem appears, when i connect my phone to my radio and start my motor: The radio turns off for 3 seconds or so, and when it turns on again, only the phone profile is reconnected, not the A2DP profile.. This sucks.. I have to go into the bluetooth menu and select "Use this as bluetooth stereo headset" to get it to reconnect.
Maybe i give this A2DPtoggle a try, though i have no today screen, because of TouchFLO 3D..
Minor drawbacks are of course:
- the small one row LCD-display
- no phonebook
But i can live with that..

gauner1986 said:
Ah.. It's f***ing great from what i can say until now ^^. Good sound.. You can't even differ the A2DP music quality from the normal input music quality. Radio signal reception is also quite good..
But a small problem appears, when i connect my phone to my radio and start my motor: The radio turns off for 3 seconds or so, and when it turns on again, only the phone profile is reconnected, not the A2DP profile.. This sucks.. I have to go into the bluetooth menu and select "Use this as bluetooth stereo headset" to get it to reconnect.
Maybe i give this A2DPtoggle a try, though i have no today screen, because of TouchFLO 3D..
Minor drawbacks are of course:
- the small one row LCD-display
- no phonebook
But i can live with that..
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You can get that hbutton program and map it to a hard button like the ie button so that it toggles bt and btaudio, worked for me. But yeah that is the only annoyance really. I like the remote too, haven't had to replace battery and it's been over a year.

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You can get that hbutton program and map it to a hard button like the ie button so that it toggles bt and btaudio, worked for me. But yeah that is the only annoyance really. I like the remote too, haven't had to replace battery and it's been over a year.
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Ok.. I'll try that, when i have time.. Do you have solution for controlling the radio via the steering wheel? I have no experience with that, but i heard that it is possible.. The remote is infrared, so it seems to be pretty useless, unless someone in the back row wants to control the radio. ^^

gauner1986 said:
Ok.. I'll try that, when i have time.. Do you have solution for controlling the radio via the steering wheel? I have no experience with that, but i heard that it is possible.. The remote is infrared, so it seems to be pretty useless, unless someone in the back row wants to control the radio. ^^
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Sorry, no clue.

Answering calls without looking at screen?

I looked around for a post, but didn't find one.
As I understand it, when receiving an incoming call, you have to
slide up the screen, then click the slender "accept" button (and
then click the little down arrows, then click speakerphone if you're
in a car without bluetooth).
Is that really the best/only way to do it? Anyone working on an
app that makes answering calls just hitting the search button or
something?
As of now, I find it very distracting/dangerous to answer calls while
driving.
Tips?

Sorry but I also would like to know how to terminate a phone call without looking at the screen
At the moment I'm turning the screen on, and then click on 'terminate the phone call'
But I'm sure there is an easier way, especially using the physical buttons.
Thanks for any tip.

if you have bluetooth hooked up to your phone, you can just answer the phone call via the bluetooth device.

Bluetooth is the only hands-free way, I'm thinking they weren't trying to make it particularly easy to use while driving, in many places this is illegal, in the US it's happening more places all the time.
Some places are even attacking Bluetooth usage while driving.

ckacey said:
Bluetooth is the only hands-free way, I'm thinking they weren't trying to make it particularly easy to use while driving, in many places this is illegal, in the US it's happening more places all the time.
Some places are even attacking Bluetooth usage while driving.
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Agreed, and wish MS would also include rSAP as many luxury European vehicles (Mercedes, VW Group including Audi, Bentley, Lamborghini, and other manufacturers/brands) support rSAP, which offers great features such as address book migration to the car for ease of dialing out.

Oranjoose said:
I looked around for a post, but didn't find one.
As I understand it, when receiving an incoming call, you have to
slide up the screen, then click the slender "accept" button (and
then click the little down arrows, then click speakerphone if you're
in a car without bluetooth).
Is that really the best/only way to do it? Anyone working on an
app that makes answering calls just hitting the search button or
something?
As of now, I find it very distracting/dangerous to answer calls while
driving.
Tips?
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don't answer calls while driving...

enjoythemusic said:
Agreed, and wish MS would also include rSAP as many luxury European vehicles (Mercedes, VW Group including Audi, Bentley, Lamborghini, and other manufacturers/brands) support rSAP, which offers great features such as address book migration to the car for ease of dialing out.
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I've heard his protocol is on its way out. My Honda pulls the contacts just fine from my HD7 & 2 and the G1, pulls the exchange data and loads it into the car.

ckacey said:
I've heard his protocol is on its way out.
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Sad if true as with rSAP the cell phone antenna/receiver that is built into the car is far superior in power than the one inside the phone. What protocol of Bluetooth is your Honda using to pull the data and i assume it pulls the data and uses an antenna/amplifier unit built into your car instead of the cell phones?

TBH you dont really need to look at the screen to answer it, flick up and press in the middle on the left....
But like everyone said just get handsfree, if your car doesnt have it you can buy them stupidly cheap anyway.
On the new MINI its really good, pulls the contacts and all of your text messages from the HD7, you can read any new text messages on the navi screen

I think it was HTC or LG that has an app out there that allows you to do various phone things with the placement of the phone. Like turn on the speakerphone by placing the phone face down after you've answered a call or turning it face down while ringing to silence the ringer...

Yeh the HTC app called attentive phone.

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Sad if true as with rSAP the cell phone antenna/receiver that is built into the car is far superior in power than the one inside the phone. What protocol of Bluetooth is your Honda using to pull the data and i assume it pulls the data and uses an antenna/amplifier unit built into your car instead of the cell phones?
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I think it uses Address Book Profile, it's abbreviated as ABP (I'm not 100% sure what is abbreviated there)
It uses the mic and amp in the car for audio, it uses the antenna built into the phone, I've never used the external antenna port on my phones, I think my Tmo Wing was the last one with this port available externally.
For A2DP I'm using a device called FIPO, and a Soundgate core, and a soundgate Honda kit. The Honda kit hooks to the back of my nav unit and pretends to be a CD changer, so that I can use the controls on my steering wheel and nav screen. The Core is connected to the Honda Kit, core comes in two models, iPod and Zune, I used the Zune for my Zune. I use the iPod Core to connect to the FIPO. The FIPO is controlled by the phone, and it switches between that device and the nav unit's Handsfree profile based on wether or not I'm on a call. After I'm finished with my call the phone switches back to the FIPIO and resumes the audio.

Thanks for the detailed reply, as i use the Dice Electronics unit for an iTouch, which like your unit one needs to remove 6-disc changer and insert the Dice unit that hooks to the iTouch. What i like about rSAP is that the car has a far better cellular amp/antenna plus rSAP migrated contacts from the SIM to the car's computer. While i could take out the sim card and insert it into the car directly, that is a hassle versus using bluetooth rSAP for each time i enter/leave the car. The car does work via 'basic' normal Bluetooth with the WP7 for handsfree with all the usual features, yet enjoyed the rSAP advantages. Thanks again, ALL help is ALWAYS apprecaited.

[Q] Sony Smartwatch 2 Bluetooth Issues

So I bought my Smartwatch 2 a few weeks ago (imported it from the UK) and it's great, the only problem is that it interferes with bluetooth music streaming and bluetooth call quality. I have a 2012 Chevrolet with bluetooth for calls and for media streaming, and I have not had any issues with streaming content over bluetooth until I purchased the Smartwatch. I also have an LG G2 on Verizon, and I thought that might be causing the issue, so I isolated the true cause; when I turn off the watch while playing music, the quality instantly improves. Also when I make or receive any calls in my car the quality is so tremendously bad that I can not understand a word of what the other person is saying. If I switch back to the normal handset via the in call menu on my phone, the call quality improves again.
Am I the only one out there with issues like this? And If not, has anyone found a way around this issue or know of what should be done?
(I know this isn't a Q&A forum, but I was not able to locate a section for Q&A on the smartwatch)

Here no problem with the smartwatch 2, htc one and parrot bluetooth car kit. Maybe your phone needs custom kernel or rom for optimised bluetooth emissions.
Envoyé depuis mon ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T avec Tapatalk 4

For me it's the same watch, car, headphones, any mix works without problems.
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Tonio78370 said:
For me it's the same watch, car, headphones, any mix works without problems.
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Sometimes my phone doesn't connect anymore to my car Bluetooth, untill I switch off my watch! When I then switch my watch back on it does not connect to the phone anymore.
This behaviour is intermittent so difficult to troubleshoot. What seems to help is to reboot my phone, so maybe it is phone related (HTC One X+).

I only have problems when I get out of reach BT wise. Mostly they reconnected but when they don't I have to unpair, reboot both and pair from start. Luckily it doesn't happen too often
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turnturn1225 said:
So I bought my Smartwatch 2 a few weeks ago (imported it from the UK) and it's great, the only problem is that it interferes with bluetooth music streaming and bluetooth call quality. I have a 2012 Chevrolet with bluetooth for calls and for media streaming, and I have not had any issues with streaming content over bluetooth until I purchased the Smartwatch. I also have an LG G2 on Verizon, and I thought that might be causing the issue, so I isolated the true cause; when I turn off the watch while playing music, the quality instantly improves. Also when I make or receive any calls in my car the quality is so tremendously bad that I can not understand a word of what the other person is saying. If I switch back to the normal handset via the in call menu on my phone, the call quality improves again.
Am I the only one out there with issues like this? And If not, has anyone found a way around this issue or know of what should be done?
(I know this isn't a Q&A forum, but I was not able to locate a section for Q&A on the smartwatch)
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I have exactly the same problem! I have the note 3 on att and a 2012 Audi Q5. I noticed it was only an issue when I receive a call...and shutting off the watch doesn't help.
I realize that this is because as long as I am on the call, the phone is sending a signal to the watch (keeping the number on the watch face). Even if I turn off the watch, the phone is still sending. The caller's voice is totally garbled. If I turn off the bluetooth, audio quality to the phone is fine. This is a killer for the watch! I can't use it in the car! If it only rang but didn't keep the info on the screen, it would be fine. I wonder if there is an app out there that will buzz the phone when the call comes in but then stop transmitting to the watch.
I guess I could turn off the phone handling app.. but that would defeat the purpose of the watch.
Does ANYONE have an idea how to fix this? I am at my wits' end!

radman2020 said:
Even if I turn off the watch, the phone is still sending.
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If you mean that you have switched the SW2 completely off, in this case sending is clearly not possible, bluetooth is an handshaked protocol....

themissionimpossible said:
If you mean that you have switched the SW2 completely off, in this case sending is clearly not possible, bluetooth is an handshaked protocol....
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I have switched it off.. Eventually the distortion clears. Maybe the interference continues a bit because the car - phone bluetooth connection was somehow altered by the watch transmission?
I don't know how these things work but the distortion of the voice only happens when the watch is connected!
I am amenable to any suggestions.

radman2020 said:
the distortion of the voice only happens when the watch is connected!
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Probably this is due to concurrent BT connections limitations or reciprocal radio interferences, or to a BT stack overload in one of those devices (likely the phone that has to keep 2 connections going at the same time).

themissionimpossible said:
Probably this is due to concurrent BT connections limitations or reciprocal radio interferences, or to a BT stack overload in one of those devices (likely the phone that has to keep 2 connections going at the same time).
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so I figured that... but how can sony put out a watch they expect people to use that destroys the voice connection? Is there any workaround?

radman2020 said:
but how can sony put out a watch they expect people to use that destroys the voice connection? Is there any workaround?
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If the source of the problem should lie in the phone BT, the Sony SW2 couldn't be blamed.

themissionimpossible said:
If the source of the problem should lie in the phone BT, the Sony SW2 couldn't be blamed.
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I'm not blaming anyone. I just want it to work. Sony's big advantage over the Gear is that it is supposedly compatible with any android phone. It seems to have an issue here.

radman2020 said:
It seems to have an issue here.
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Of course I can't agree, but it doesn't matter..

themissionimpossible said:
Of course I can't agree, but it doesn't matter..
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not sure what you are saying. I have an issue that has something to do with the watch, phone and car interface. I am looking to the people on this board for suggestions. You telling me that I shouldn't blame the watch and rolling your eyes is not helpful.
I am happy to not blame anyone and just have this work. I love the concept. I paid a lot of money for it... and I am hoping to find a workaround.

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and I am hoping to find a workaround.
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My personal advise is that probably the first (and only) workaround to try could be to change or modify the phone that apparently has some problems with double BT connections.

radman2020 said:
not sure what you are saying. I have an issue that has something to do with the watch, phone and car interface. I am looking to the people on this board for suggestions. You telling me that I shouldn't blame the watch and rolling your eyes is not helpful.
I am happy to not blame anyone and just have this work. I love the concept. I paid a lot of money for it... and I am hoping to find a workaround.
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I stream, and take calls in my truck, with no issue in sound quality. How can Sony be blamed... are the supposed to account for every app combination, Bluetooth drivers, roms ect? Now its possible u have a defect.... if it was a detrimental design flaw I think a high percentage of us would experience the same, n that's just not the case....

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I stream, and take calls in my truck, with no issue in sound quality. How can Sony be blamed... are the supposed to account for every app combination, Bluetooth drivers, roms ect? Now its possible u have a defect.... if it was a detrimental design flaw I think a high percentage of us would experience the same, n that's just not the case....
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I totally agree, but for somebody it's apparently too hard to believe...

I have 3 Bluetooth audio devices: car kit, Bluetooth speaker and Bluetooth stereo headphones.
The car kit and speaker work fine when the watch is connected but the headphones (Blueant X5) stutter while playing music and behave badly when trying to talk on a call. If I disable Bluetooth on the watch, it works fine.
I wonder if it's related to the Bluetooth version of the respective devices. Both the car kit and speaker are much newer than the old headphones.
Maybe your issue is similar. Do you have access to another phone you could test the watch against?

mckenzis said:
I wonder if it's related to the Bluetooth version of the respective devices. Both the car kit and speaker are much newer than the old headphones.
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I suspect that if a device (for ex. a phone or a headset) hasn't at least Bluetooth version "3.0 + HS" (released in 2009) it's likely to have problems keeping 2 BT connections correctly working at the same time.

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I suspect that if a device (for ex. a phone or a headset) hasn't at least Bluetooth version "3.0 + HS" (released in 2009) it's likely to have problems keeping 2 BT connections correctly working at the same time.
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The car is a 2011. The watch and phone are state of the art....
I installed call handling pro which allows me to limit the number of seconds the watch displays info on an incoming call. This secondarily limits the time this phone-watch communication disrupts the voice bluetooth communication between phone and car. It has helped. The downside is that, when not in the car, I lose some of the benefit of the watch. I'm ok with the tradeoff. It is a workaround.

[Q] Note 3 and Nissian Juke

I have a new Note 3 I am trying to play music through the car and not through Aux. I have spent too much money on this phone and car not to be able to use my nice car controlled features. I really dont want to get an Iphone, which on my Ipod I could control from the car.

So... what is your question?

xandr00 said:
So... what is your question?
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How can I get music to play from my phone through my car's handsfree system and not have to use the phone to control things. Can I use Bluetooth if so I do I do this? My car pares with my phone to make calls by Bluetooth. With my I pod I can control all features from my car.

tiffcam said:
How can I get music to play from my phone through my car's handsfree system and not have to use the phone to control things. Can I use Bluetooth if so I do I do this? My car pares with my phone to make calls by Bluetooth. With my I pod I can control all features from my car.
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I had the same problem with my 2013 Dodge Dart. Make sure bluetooth is [ON] on your device BEFORE you start the vehicle. Remove the CD from the CD Player. Remove any USB drives (if your car has a USB plugin). Remove the AUX cable.
This fixed my problem, albeit on a different car. I also opened up bluetooth settings and you can click the checkbox that says "media audio" and that should help.
Report back if this helps or not. If not you may need to take it back to the dealer.

Sorry to say but the Juke does not support the feature to play music through BT.
I have a Juke too and its been known that it doesnt have that feature
Its not your phone its your car

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I had the same problem with my 2013 Dodge Dart. Make sure bluetooth is [ON] on your device BEFORE you start the vehicle. Remove the CD from the CD Player. Remove any USB drives (if your car has a USB plugin). Remove the AUX cable.
This fixed my problem, albeit on a different car. I also opened up bluetooth settings and you can click the checkbox that says "media audio" and that should help.
Report back if this helps or not. If not you may need to take it back to the dealer.
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thanks I will try!
Sadly I think sixk is correct, My Juke wont support, but I am going to remove everything and try. I did try try to play music in my moms car which has a kenwood with bluetooth mode yet once again only the phone BT works not audio, so I may have to get Iphone instead:crying:

It Def ur juke. Sorry nissan ducks as far as updating
NOTE 3

tiffcam said:
thanks I will try!
Sadly I think sixk is correct, My Juke wont support, but I am going to remove everything and try. I did try try to play music in my moms car which has a kenwood with bluetooth mode yet once again only the phone BT works not audio, so I may have to get Iphone instead:crying:
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There's always another way!
http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-Blueto...5056596&sr=8-1&keywords=aux+bluetooth+adapter
I purchased this item when I had my Nissan. It's not integrated with your car but it's bluetooth. Sorry about your situation :\

I know the Juke is rather new (and with the way new vehicles are coming, I dunno if there'll ever be aftermarket support for the radio or not), but this is where an aftermarket radio would be your friend...

Bluetooth audio codec: does not stick

I keep on setting the audio bluetooth codec under dev optioons on "aptx" but after exiting the option goes back on "default".
Anyone can help?

thegios said:
I keep on setting the audio bluetooth codec under dev optioons on "aptx" but after exiting the option goes back on "default". Anyone can help?
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Mine doesn't appear to stick either, but when I use my BT speaker I see an option in the connect dialog to use the Qualcomm aptX driver even though the codec is set to default (SBC). I don't see this aptX option when using my car or earbuds. I know this doesn't really help much, but I thought it was relative. I do know that the AVRCP setting does stick. Have you looked in the Google Issue Tracker? I'll go and star the issue if I can find it.
Edit: It is THERE listed as closed due to lack of data, feedback. Seems they ignored the obvious.... codec selection not sticking?

How do you tell if aptx is working while you're playing something to say a wireless speaker?
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How do you tell if aptx is working while you're playing something to say a wireless speaker?
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In BT settings I see a toggle for Qualcomm aptX and it's on... but in Dev Ops the BT codec still says Default: SBC. I think the audio codec setting there is busted, but the phone seems to use the best available codec. The device is a Creative (Soundblaster) Roar BT speaker. Now if I could only get the phone to auto connect to my car kit. Stays paired but will only manually connect which is a real pain.

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In BT settings I see a toggle for Qualcomm aptX and it's on... but in Dev Ops the BT codec still says Default: SBC. I think the audio codec setting there is busted, but the phone seems to use the best available codec. The device is a Creative (Soundblaster) Roar BT speaker. Now if I could only get the phone to auto connect to my car kit. Stays paired but will only manually connect which is a real pain.
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Hmmm. My JBL Flip 4 is paired and it can use aptx but no option there. Weird.
My fm transmitter car kit will connect automatically, as long as it's set for media and phone calls.. Is yours just set for media only?

pixelsquish said:
Hmmm. My JBL Flip 4 is paired and it can use aptx but no option there. Weird.
My fm transmitter car kit will connect automatically, as long as it's set for media and phone calls.. Is yours just set for media only?
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Yes, I've tried every combination there. It was working perfect with the N6P, and has never worked with the P2XL. Car kit is the absolute cheapest Chinese one you can find on Ebay... audio only, BT version 2.0 I think with no phone mic lol. Time to pony up and get a newer/better one. Had not considered FM transmitter because my car has the line in AUX. in my console so I can hide it.... It's about the size of a matchbox. This is a first world problem I know, but really annoying to me, and I know it's the phone because the Nexus was working for a year no problems. Thanks for your response.

v12xke said:
Yes, I've tried every combination there. It was working perfect with the N6P, and has never worked with the P2XL. Car kit is the absolute cheapest Chinese one you can find on Ebay... audio only, BT version 2.0 I think with no phone mic lol. Time to pony up and get a newer/better one. Had not considered FM transmitter because my car has the line in AUX. in my console so I can hide it.... It's about the size of a matchbox. This is a first world problem I know, but really annoying to me, and I know it's the phone because the Nexus was working for a year no problems. Thanks for your response.
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We are both very frustrated here. Me cause I know I have an aptx capable device and am not getting to use it. You because you can't do a simple auto connect via bluetooth. Oy! Come on January update!

see my post here for a similar issue that I was able to workaround fairly easy
TLDR: You need root, edit your build.prop (using text editor, some app from the play store, etc) and change the following key: persist.vendor.bt.a2dp_offload_cap
by removing -aac from the string.
I'm sorry if it looks like I'm spamming I just encountered this issue on a lot of forums with no result and I do hope that this will help some