Related
Come on folks...128gb microsd?!?!
At first I was excited about the Sandisk announcement (http://dailymobile.se/2008/10/20/sandisk-to-develop-128gb-micosd/); but then I asked one question--When will this end?
I'm torn between constantly buying "the next biggest memory card" versus start storing everything I need online.
Sure they both have their PROs and CONs -- but since 99% of my travels are in a 3G area...
...why NOT use one of the many FREE picture/file stores online?
...and why NOT watch movies and vids online instead of a downloaded copy to my memory card?
...and why not start storing my contacts, calendar, tasks and everyday To Do lists online too?
...and why not even run my desktop applications online where I can access them anywhere I have connectivity?
We Tech OGs know this "cloud computing (Web 3.0)" is nothing new--remember DUMB TERMINALS and THIN CLIENTS? Amongst other advantages, it was SUPPOSE to put a halt to ever-growing disk space needs and excessive licensing costs back in the 1980s and 90s. It didn't really fly...and so now Here we go again.
With only a handful of today's mobile devices having more than 640K of RAM, maybe Bill Gates was right after all when he supposedly said "640K of memory should be enough for anybody".
What is better than to have a large cyclinder capacity?
Right - even more cyclinder capacity ...
I am not traveling always in good 3G connection area and I like to carry arround the data I need. The more the better, for me it is realy that simple.
Wikipedia, MP3s, Navigation, Presentations, fotos, documents, etc.
With a smal card I have to select the data. The larger the card the easier it will be - just have everything.
Claus
128GB on a MicroSD card is just insane.
Been there...done that
dingolino said:
What is better than to have a large cyclinder capacity?
Right - even more cyclinder capacity ...
I am not traveling always in good 3G connection area and I like to carry arround the data I need. The more the better, for me it is realy that simple.
Wikipedia, MP3s, Navigation, Presentations, fotos, documents, etc.
With a smal card I have to select the data. The larger the card the easier it will be - just have everything.
Claus
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Until about 2 years ago, I loaded gigs of TomTom and Mapopolis maps to my SD card. The problem was those maps NEVER had street names and areas less than 4 years old. So I abandoned that and started using Google Maps, YahooGo and Nav4All. The only downside is that an internet connection is now required. I'm now starting to go online with fotos so I can share. I abandoned loading encyclopedias, dictionaries and wikis to my SD cards a long time ago. To me loading those on a card is the same as carrying around hard/printed copies. It's outdated the second you put it on paper. By accessing those online, in theory, you'll have the latest updates.
My only concern with accessing contacts, calendar, tasks and documents online is SECURITY.
Not long ago I spent $60 on a 4GB micro SDHC
Haven't come close to filling it -- but when I saw a 8GB for only $25 last week, I just had to grab it.
I just might do the same when 16GB get to that price point.
burtcom said:
Not long ago I spent $60 on a 4GB micro SDHC
Haven't come close to filling it -- but when I saw a 8GB for only $25 last week, I just had to grab it.
I just might do the same when 16GB get to that price point.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I spent the equivalent of $12 on a 4GB Micro SDHC the other day.
I have the same problem and now it has been sorted!
dingolino said:
What is better than to have a large cyclinder capacity?
Right - even more cyclinder capacity ...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Meanwhile this rule of thumb isn't true anymore. The pressure inside the cylinder affects the power of an engine too. So more cylinder capacity isn't neccessary that much.
Had a 512MB SD Card - was enougth but a bit too small ... !
Upgraded to a 1GB SD Card - was enougth but again became a bit too small.
Bought me a 2GB SD Card - damn, still not enough space ... !
Got me a 4GB Card - ... will it ever be large enough for my needs?
Sitting on my 8GB Card - ... not enough space !!!
Well, avoided so far the 16Gig Card because I think it is just too expensive! Hopefully prices will drop soon - so, 128GB would be cool, I could get rid of my 160GB USB drive.
However, I doubt that any currently available MOBILE HANDSET would be capable of handling a 128GB Card ... !
..let me hear ya say tera. oh yeah
The more space you have, the more space you´ll need/use
So the "When is enough" will have to be answered by users and not by manufacturers. The day we don´t buy something that will be the day when they maybe say "Now it´s enough"
Keep in mind those Cards will be used as well for other things then Phones. with a USB reader ( that you could carry on your key chain) you could carry complete data of your desktop with those. (pictures. movies,music etc)
I am selling those readers and many company's that have been using CD/DVDs moving to USB readers with cards. >see the picture for sample<
Solon said:
Meanwhile this rule of thumb isn't true anymore. The pressure inside the cylinder affects the power of an engine too. So more cylinder capacity isn't neccessary that much.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Untill you also fill that bigger cylinder with more air....
I suppose the question is not necessarily whether or not "when will enough be enough" but more so "when will they develope phones with much better camera and video quality? That is when the large SD cards will come in handy. 4 years ago Samsung made a great phone for Verizon Wireless. It did nto sell well because it never had a great sale on it but the thing had amazing video, camera, and even voice to text on it.
Hyden121 said:
I suppose the question is not necessarily whether or not "when will enough be enough" but more so "when will they develope phones with much better camera and video quality? That is when the large SD cards will come in handy. 4 years ago Samsung made a great phone for Verizon Wireless. It did nto sell well because it never had a great sale on it but the thing had amazing video, camera, and even voice to text on it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
like this nokia n98? id rather buy a camera and a phone/pda i mean its not like digital zoom is amazing or anything, but yeah that would use alot of space, so would a phone with better screen resolution then all of the games/videos would be bigger. there probably wont ever be an end because people are lazy so they program lazy and dont optimize code and people want everything to be hd so everything will be bloated just for graphics
Wow, that is a pretty sweet phone anda carl zeis lens is really killer for a phone! So I guess that would be a yes.
so this is still using the SDHC interface or what??
it wouldnt make sencse to make a new subunit of SD if it can only go 128 Gb, because face it........ that isnt large enough to support another couple of years.
the jump from 2 Gb to 32 Gb was pritty big, 16 times the capacity.
32 Gb to 128 Gb is nothing compared to that first jump, its only 4 times bigger.
The real question should have been. Where can I get one and how much?
slight22 said:
The real question should have been. Where can I get one and how much?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13520709&postcount=8503
I plan to get the 128GB SDXC in that thread.
Thanks, but those are SD, not micro SD which is what we need for smartphones.
Apple update the spec of their devices every year and I think Microsoft should look to do this also...
In addition to the Gyroscope and new processors metioned at MIX I would like to see the following...
Fall 2011 - Windows Phone 7.5
1. Front Facing Camera - Launched with Live Messenger, Skype etc...
2. 16 GB Minimum Memory - I have no space for new APPS on my 8 GB device!!
3. SD Card option like on the Samsung Focus as standard.
Fall 2012 - Windows Phone 8
1. DLNA - Stream movies, photos to TV
2. Windows Button to also be 8 directional D-PAD as standard.
3. Allow remapping of all buttons when in Game Mode.
3. NFC - contactless mobile payments
4. USB 3
5. Bluetooth 3 or 4
6. XGA Resolution 1024 x 768
7. HDMI
8. Dual Core processors - multiple suppliers
I am sure there will be Android devices that meet these specs by late 2012
Low end devices would stay as WP7 and WP8 would support the high end features... Microsoft has already said this is the strategy.
I think the most important update should be software and increase in software features to improve the versatility of the platform. Windows 7 phones as at now are by no means low in specs.
Agrred the current specs are high enough for the momment. The main problem is software develpoers trying to create sual core supported software which, means its better if ms wait a while and do what andorid have whereby they have increased spped of the os and added new features and battery saving features mainly. Also speed wise JIT would be good.
The specs are fine, but I do see them improving, obviously. I've stated in other threads I see them updating faster because of market production and not because of necessity, unlike Android.
With that being said, I do see FFC coming this Fall. Though, obviously, they won't be mandatory, and will probably be featured on the phones on par with what's available today. Video out will probably be available sometime, though I don't think in Mango, but it would make sense with Netflix on the device. They won't go with multiple suppliers of processors, that takes away from the consistency of the device... And Qualcomm is a fine manufacturer... Why the need for change here?
Resolution has also been said it won't change, hasn't it? Really don't blame them, again, consistency. As far for hardware adjustments... No... Just... No.
And the memory option affects price. There are 16gb devices, why didn't you get one of those? I have 16gb -.- They need smaller devices to attract different users, you can't only have max devices on the market.
ebzrascal said:
Apple update the spec of their devices every year and I think Microsoft should look to do this also...
In addition to the Gyroscope and new processors metioned at MIX I would like to see the following...
Fall 2011 - Windows Phone 7.5
1. Front Facing Camera - Launched with Live Messenger, Skype etc... - Useless without the Apps. Not sure if Skype wants to tax their network by just letting any and everyone video call right now, TBQH...
2. 16 GB Minimum Memory - I have no space for new APPS on my 8 GB device!! - Why did you buy an 8GB device?
3. SD Card option like on the Samsung Focus as standard. - They're better off setting the minimum storage to 16GB than add a slot IMO. SD Cards lose their utility with the way WP7 uses them, and it's a PITA to use them after you take them out the phone as well...
Fall 2012 - Windows Phone 8
1. DLNA - Stream movies, photos to TV - Standard on High End Android devices.
2. Windows Button to also be 8 directional D-PAD as standard. Huh?
3. Allow remapping of all buttons when in Game Mode. - That still wouldn't make the phone a decent gaming device. Have to go the Sony rought to have something decent, IMO.
3. NFC - contactless mobile payments - Becoming standard on Android phones. Newer Blackberries will ship with this as well, and I suspect the next iPhone will as well as WebOS devices.
4. USB 3 - Unnecessary, IMO.
5. Bluetooth 3 or 4 - Galaxy S phones shipped with 3.0 in the middle of last year... Kinda late for this but it doesn't matter that much if your other devices don't support it, IMO.
6. XGA Resolution 1024 x 768 - Unnecessary on smartphone screens. Even qHD is IMO unecessary on screens 4.3" and below. Apple can afford to put this because they charge a premium for their devices, but it's pretty meh. qHD is decent, this is overkill...
7. HDMI - This is a pretty standard feature these days...
8. Dual Core processors - multiple suppliers - Agree...
I am sure there will be Android devices that meet these specs by late 2012
^ Apart from the screen resolution and USB3, both of which are pipe dreams... There are already Android phones that meet or exceed these specs now...
Low end devices would stay as WP7 and WP8 would support the high end features... Microsoft has already said this is the strategy.
^ Link pls... WTB Windows Phone fragmentation?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If Microsoft wants to wait until Fall 2012 to introduce half that stuff you have listed... They mind as well just give up now.
Do us all a favor and ask them to put better batteries in their smartphones. The issue with smartphones is not the hardware. Even 1st gen snapdragons are good enough to make a good, featureful, performant smartphone OS on... The issue is that these phones last half a day with heavy usage, when you could do 2-3 days of heavy usage on Blackberries and Nokia phones...
No one cares how pretty it is or how well it performs if they are tethered to a charger all the time, and that's pretty much the status quo for WP7/Android/WebOS and to a lesser extent iOS these days...
Even with 1800-1930 mAh batteries phones like the Galaxy S II/Atrix 4G etc. manage to have battery life measured in < a day of moderate use... That's pretty incredible (not in a good way, either). It's time for manufacturers and companies like Microsoft/Google to stop feeding the needless spec bumping and focus on something that matters more - making phones that won't be rendered useless for hours due to being tethered to a charger if you happen to doze off at night before you plug the charger into it.
Better Battery Life in general, as N8ter said. I think this is the thing iOS, wp7 & Android platforms really need to focus on more right now.
16GB minimum internal NAND memory, although I hope to see at least one 32GB or more (probably Nokia) in the next year. Memory is not that expensive, and if we are to have our music collections on our phones, Nokia and Apple are the only ones who seem to get that you need space. I'll pay a little more for enough storage.
The new processor spec's are fine, don't need dual core yet but would like to see them start to come out by early next year.
I really expect a front facing camera phone will be out with Mango due to Skype being released. One of the OEM's will have one as a flagship if not more. But do people really use this feature much? Not really, but it still has uses, and those who will use it and should be available with Mango imo.
Other than that, its additional software features that are needed most. Mango is taking care of a decent list of complaints I had as will Nokias Navtek data/Ovi maps, but there are still many things to be added.
Fall 2012??? OMG... If Mango can do good enough... Mango is still WIP, so why don;t they add some feature that might "Magnet" some other users? 1, 3, 5, 7,8 from Windows Phone 8 are good example to be put on Mango.
dtboos said:
Better Battery Life in general, as N8ter said. I think this is the thing iOS, wp7 & Android platforms really need to focus on more right now.
16GB minimum internal NAND memory, although I hope to see at least one 32GB or more (probably Nokia) in the next year. Memory is not that expensive, and if we are to have our music collections on our phones, Nokia and Apple are the only ones who seem to get that you need space. I'll pay a little more for enough storage.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree, but the manufacturers charge too much for strage. Going from an 8 to 16 GB phone can easily add $100 to the price at times. It's ridiculous. They will nickle and dime at any opportunity.
Nokia phones only needed a decent size ROM. They have SD Card Slots. Same for Windows Mobile and to a lesser extent Android. iOS, WP7, and WebOS devices need at least 16 GB internal storage, because of the lack of an SD slot or the way the phone works with SD Cards (WP7).
The new processor spec's are fine, don't need dual core yet but would like to see them start to come out by early next year.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Agree.
I really expect a front facing camera phone will be out with Mango due to Skype being released. One of the OEM's will have one as a flagship if not more. But do people really use this feature much? Not really, but it still has uses, and those who will use it and should be available with Mango imo.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have no use for a FFC, and TBQH, I don't even want a phone with a FFC. I'll take an extra 8GB of space instead of a FFC for same price, plix...
Other than that, its additional software features that are needed most. Mango is taking care of a decent list of complaints I had as will Nokias Navtek data/Ovi maps, but there are still many things to be added.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Agree, and Mango needed to be coming out now, not in six months. They really dropped the ball releasing basically a feature phone in the smartphone market.
N8ter said:
I agree, but the manufacturers charge too much for strage. Going from an 8 to 16 GB phone can easily add $100 to the price at times. It's ridiculous. They will nickle and dime at any opportunity.
Nokia phones only needed a decent size ROM. They have SD Card Slots. Same for Windows Mobile and to a lesser extent Android. iOS, WP7, and WebOS devices need at least 16 GB internal storage, because of the lack of an SD slot or the way the phone works with SD Cards (WP7).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nokia's N8 has 64GB internal storage (if I remember correctly). Doesn't NAND memory work better than internal + a removable SD card? I never got great performance out of my SD cards in BB, Android ect. And it seems MS wants everything to be sync'd through zune instead of having removable media ect.
I just hope there is an option for at least 32GB soon, but I would definitely prefer fast and efficient NAND storage like what the Focus has.
I have no use for a FFC, and TBQH, I don't even want a phone with a FFC. I'll take an extra 8GB of space instead of a FFC for same price, plix...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I would as well.
dtboos said:
Nokia's N8 has 64GB internal storage (if I remember correctly). Doesn't NAND memory work better than internal + a removable SD card? I never got great performance out of my SD cards in BB, Android ect. And it seems MS wants everything to be sync'd through zune instead of having removable media ect.
I just hope there is an option for at least 32GB soon, but I would definitely prefer fast and efficient NAND storage like what the Focus has.
I would as well.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The N8 does not have 64 GB storage. I'm pretty sure it's 16 GB + SD Card Slot, just like Galaxy S phones...
Yep, just checked... 16 GB Internal Storage with support for up to 32 GB SD Card.
I used to install all my apps to a Class 2 SD Card in Windows Mobile as well as put all my music and videos on it and never had any issues with performance.
In any case, that's not a factor. SD Cards for for media storage, and you can get a high class card if you need it. As long as the phone has a decent amount of internal storage it's not gonna be a problem
I just rather the phone come with at least 16GB internal so I don't feel like I have to splurge for an expensive big SD Card on top of an already expensive device. Plus, it makes a lot of sense...
With the way WP7 works with SD cards, they're better off putting in a large amount of internal storage. SD Cards are how swappable storage and when you make them unswappable it defeats the purpose of even having the slot - especially when you have to factory reset your phone everytime you want to change it (which means you're need to get the biggest card possible off the bad, or deal with a ridiculous inconvenience later on if you want to upgrade it)...
Also, until Microsoft mandates storage types most manufacturers will continue to use SD cards. It allows them to spend VERY little money putting lots of storage whilst charging consumers a ton of money simply because there is a lot of storage there... SD Cards are ridiculously cheap compared to NAND, but you'd never know in the pricing...
Also, if an SD Card goes bad, the phone is much easier to repair than another with a NAND chip soldered in. It's as easy as opening it up, replacing that card, and factory resetting the device then sending it back... That can potentially lower support costs as well
Looks like the 64GB N8 was an april fools gag...I fell for it :O
I wish my Focus had 16GB thats for sure. I chose it as it had the best form factor, best screen, and Samsung's Chipset/Memory was also top notch. Why they chose to only put in 8GB is beyond me.
Like the title says, I'm curious to see how many people actually wanted this function. I was a bit disappointed when I heard about the lack of removable memory, but I lust after this phone. I do have a 16GB card that's near capacity. I haven't cleaned it out in a while, so I'll do that first. Hopefully 16GB will be enough for me. But I digress, this isn't a rant about how the Galaxy Nexus doesn't have removable memory. This thread is more about seeing the percentage of people who did want this function.
I did want it, just like I wanted it on the NS. But I understand that I don't NEED removable storage and will be buying the GN the first chance I get. And given the choice, I'll probably go with a 16GB version, because I still have about 4GB of free space on my NS.
I really wanted an sdcard slot on it. I will have to import the phone as the 32GB versions as there seems to be no current plans to sell that version in Sweden according to Samsung themselves. 32GB is minimum for me. I had hoped to be able to get a 32 GB version and then plug in my 32 GB microsd for even more storage.
Wanted it, but mostly because i got a 32GB MicroSD card already
All of my storage is wasted on nandroids anyway.
The lack of the card slot (which even my Nexus One has) is a real shame - it would only have cost a few pence to include a card slot unless there is something I have missed. The slot would have been preferred to the barometer by the vast majority of people - if we had to choose one or the other.
If they were releasing the 32GB in the UK i wouldn't have wanted an SD slot as that would be enough for me. But as we're only getting the 16GB for whatever reason i would want an SD.
As they're not doing either i'll have to stay with my GS2.
i know i'm having issues with my card slot and/or SD card on my Fascinate. It'll say my SD card is ejected when it's not. I'm starting to think the omission of a card slot isn't so bad.. less moving parts = less things to break? lol
Not too bothered about it at all, never take my card out of the current phone.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
dragonzsoul said:
less moving parts = less things to break
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Exactly!
I was a little upset about no SD at first, but then realized that I haven't taken the card out of my N1 since I first got the phone and used it to transfer stuff to the new phone...easy enough to do with a USB and 5 minutes.
Only thing that bums me out is I basically can't get the 16GB because if I run out of space I'm hosed.
SomeGuyDude said:
Only thing that bums me out is I basically can't get the 16GB because if I run out of space I'm hosed.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Use the cloud... everyones doing it heh.
Besides stuff that needs to be on the phone, almost everything (music, docs, photos) are in the cloud for me.
Sent from my Fascinate with MIUI Gingerbread
fdm1 said:
Exactly!
I was a little upset about no SD at first, but then realized that I haven't taken the card out of my N1 since I first got the phone and used it to transfer stuff to the new phone...easy enough to do with a USB and 5 minutes.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You are totally missing the point of the sdcard slot. The biggest advantage is being able to upgrade the amount of storage if you need it. The fact that it costs next to nothing now makes it even better. Also, a less used upside is the ability to read it even if your phone stops turning on at all.
To me, the best solution would be to have lots of internal storage but still have the option of an sdcard for extra storage for movies, lossless audio and other big files if the user wanted. I would be totally fine with it being used entirely for user storage. Any form of cache files that are currently stored on the sdcard probably belongs on the internal memory.
blunden said:
You are totally missing the point of the sdcard slot. The biggest advantage is being able to upgrade the amount of storage if you need it. The fact that it costs next to nothing now makes it even better. Also, a less used upside is the ability to read it even if your phone stops turning on at all.
To me, the best solution would be to have lots of internal storage but still have the option of an sdcard for extra storage for movies, lossless audio and other big files if the user wanted. I would be totally fine with it being used entirely for user storage. Any form of cache files that are currently stored on the sdcard probably belongs on the internal memory.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well you got a small screen so movies shouldnt be large in size and phones probably aren't the best devices to playback lossless audio to make a difference audibly.
I'm pro SD card though but really you just slap a large one in there and forget about it. I do use it as a quick medium to transfer custom roms and kernels to my buddies... pictures to my gf... etc. Seemed transfers were faster directly using the SD card vs going through the phone... but with the cloud and wireless transfer methods, its a mute point.
Most stuff can be in the cloud such as pictures and music and even nandroid backups (only need a few locally). I keep games/apps/wallpapers locally but those could even go to the cloud. As long as I can download them when I need them. And you don't need to have a whole movie collection on you at all times. Just a few throwbacks for travels.
My collection spans since my nexus one and its maybe 4-5gb minus music
G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV
i got a good collection of 32GB that i parked since i got stuck with Nexus S, i was really hoping GN would have the SD slot
and just purchased a 64GB microSD, with no where to use it on the GN
what am I going to do with my class 10 MicroSD?
I did want it. But I guess its cool that they're selling a 32gb version, just hope it's not an outrageous price. But I've never modded a phone without removable storage before. Either way, I'm buying on launch day.ill be importing from the UK since T-Mobile hasn't said a peep about it and I don't feel like waiting another month or two or three
Sent from my Sensation using XDA App
still hope
Ummm my xoom has usb host with honeycomb , I'm guessing its in ics as well?.. just POP that micro sd into a usb adapter when needed if true
i dont care about SD suport.
streets814 said:
Ummm my xoom has usb host with honeycomb , I'm guessing its in ics as well?.. just POP that micro sd into a usb adapter when needed if true
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
USB host in ICS is confirmed by google and many review on the net
Hi,
I wanna buy this cellphone but I'm a little worried because reviews say that out of the 16 GB of space, only a little more than 9 are available for the user, which seems a little low to install apps and a few games. How's your experience with this phone's storage?
Cheers!
actualy its more like about 5,5 to me
nekos95 said:
actualy its more like about 5,5 to me
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Really?? That's bad...
Yeah, 16 GB is terrible in 2017 to be honest. If there isn't a 32 GB model then I'd consider jumping to the A5 2017 because I know for sure that has a 32 GB model, it's 5.2 inches instead of the A3's 4.7 inches which is a normal sized phone these days and is easy to handle, it's not that much more expensive than the A3, and it has much better specs including 3 GB of RAM instead of the 2 GB the A3 has. Trust me, 2 GB of RAM and 16 GB of internal storage just isn't good enough for apps in 2017 and it'll start to lag in a few months (even my A5 stutters sometimes).
But if you still end up with an A3, you should know that it does come with a microSD card slot for expandable storage so you can move some of your apps to your SD card (games are usually movable), and if you ever plan to root your phone one day, you can move all your apps to your SD card.
xHovercraft said:
Yeah, 16 GB is terrible in 2017 to be honest. If there isn't a 32 GB model then I'd consider jumping to the A5 2017 because I know for sure that has a 32 GB model, it's 5.2 inches instead of the A3's 4.7 inches which is a normal sized phone these days and is easy to handle, it's not that much more expensive than the A3, and it has much better specs including 3 GB of RAM instead of the 2 GB the A3 has. Trust me, 2 GB of RAM and 16 GB of internal storage just isn't good enough for apps in 2017 and it'll start to lag in a few months (even my A5 stutters sometimes).
But if you still end up with an A3, you should know that it does come with a microSD card slot for expandable storage so you can move some of your apps to your SD card (games are usually movable), and if you ever plan to root your phone one day, you can move all your apps to your SD card.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's actually the size of the phone (along with the price) that makes me wanna go for it (I love mini phones), but it's great to know that I can move apps to the SD card.
RangoX said:
Really?? That's bad...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yep couldnt stay like this without root
RangoX said:
It's actually the size of the phone (along with the price) that makes me wanna go for it (I love mini phones), but it's great to know that I can move apps to the SD card.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think you should be taking specs into consideration more because the A3 is seriously weak in all departments (not just storage, but camera, performance, etc.). I'd recommend going for the iPhone SE if you really want a smaller phone or the Pixel at 5 inches maybe for a phone that's fantastic in all departments at a size that isn't that much bigger than the A3 (just 0.3 inches larger which you really won't notice after using the phone for a few minutes).
I'm just saying, the A3 won't last you a year and a half without becoming a slow nightmare. If you have the money you should definitely go for the iPhone SE or a Pixel which will last you two or three years before it starts becoming a hassle to deal with as those are actually quality compact phones while the A3 is more of a smaller, lower quality version of an already budget phone (the A5 2017).
Have had A3 2017 for 6 months and have to agree with above - don't bother! Was tempted by small size and price and battery life. But storage is always full despite only a handful of apps on it and photos, apps, videos being all on SD card. Useless.
the phone hardware is awesome for its price tag and it is a small phone that fits into our pockets.
i just got a new a3 2017 phone, which comes with lots of bloatware and there is no way to uninstall (not disable) them easily.
the development community has yet embraced this phone meaning, there is no official lineageos release for this phone and the same goes for twrp ([here is unofficial one][1]) and even the famous odin tool for flashing, supports only windows (guess i will have to use [heimdall][2]).
after playing with the phone for a day, i can tell that i really miss the following features:
- dark theme (with lineageos we could easily replace the builtin theme)
- vibration feedback (do not want to get a special keyboard application like swype to do the trick, as i want it system wide)
- haptic feedback for capacitive buttons (do not want to get a special application like [vibeonkey][3] to do the trick, as i want it system wide)
now that lineageos reached 15.1 maybe some of the guru developers here could provide us with an unofficial (not buggy) release of lineage 15.1.
i do not mind to get lineage 14.1 working, as it is better than the nougat version that was released by samsung.
ps, regarding the storage and in case you missed it, just use an sdcard or whatever this phone supports.
Code:
[1]: https://forum.xda-developers.com/samsung-a-series-2017/development/recovery-a3-2017-t3758969#post75786071
[2]: https://glassechidna.com.au/heimdall/
[3]: https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-vibeonkey-add-vibration-to-hardware-t3611532
i went on all android distribution and non has a working rom for the a3 2017...
there is no adoption to this phone, although it has a great hardware which fits into my jeans pockets.
if anyonw has another working rom for this device, please state so
oopsy, how can i delete it?
RangoX said:
Hi,
I wanna buy this cellphone but I'm a little worried because reviews say that out of the 16 GB of space, only a little more than 9 are available for the user, which seems a little low to install apps and a few games. How's your experience with this phone's storage?
Cheers!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
even after rooting the phone, i couldn't delete (not disable or hide) to reclaim space and i tried many free apps that suppose to do that.
are you familiar with any application that truly delete the system application?
this is how i finally deleted the bloatware:
1. root the device i used this twrp.
2. use titanium backup but before that do this
update, checkout this thread
Good day fellas,
I receive my poco f3 6+128GB since 10April (almost 9 days), and have never open it as was debating whether to get the 8gb when sales comes and sell it off (Percentage are high that might not have offer), or just get on to unbox the 6gb variant??
What do you guys think ? Does the 6+128GB inferior to the 8+256GB?
Do state the pros and cons, and is the different a big factor ?? ( will use for 4-5 years if possible)
Thank You.
FYI , I am coming from Redmi Note 4 user (32GB + 16GB SD card, 3GB Ram) , using for 3 years + and the phone died a month ago due to IC spoil.
Regards,
Jason
I've purchasrd the 8gb version cause i think it will help the phone last a longer time. 50€ for maybe a extra year of use seemed a good deal to me. The extra storage storage is fast but this phone doesn't have usb3.1 for wired transfer so aside from the performance hels is kinda wasted if you don't have a wifi6 router at home (can't use your phone as a portable SSD).
I've lived with less than 8 gb of avaiable storage till now and i'm used to have everything on cloud so i'll never fill those 256 gb. They're useful if you want to film long 4k videos with the phone or you don't use streaming services.
if this phone had a better cabled connection i will always vouch for the 256GB version but beacause it's slow i think it depend only on how long do you plan to use this phone
GranoTurc00 said:
I've purchasrd the 8gb version cause i think it will help the phone last a longer time. 50€ for maybe a extra year of use seemed a good deal to me. The extra storage storage is fast but this phone doesn't have usb3.1 for wired transfer so aside from the performance hels is kinda wasted if you don't have a wifi6 router at home (can't use your phone as a portable SSD).
I've lived with less than 8 gb of avaiable storage till now and i'm used to have everything on cloud so i'll never fill those 256 gb. They're useful if you want to film long 4k videos with the phone or you don't use streaming services.
if this phone had a better cabled connection i will always vouch for the 256GB version but beacause it's slow i think it depend only on how long do you plan to use this phone
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Usually for Phones i will use it until it spoil, preferably 4-5 years, i am not into filming though, but am wanna try to take good picture and maybe some video for experience.
What do you mean streaming services ?
what Cloud Services you used, is it free or paid ( If it is paid, are they any free cloud services, that maybe have unlimited store) ?
You mean that if this phone has usb 3.1, and you have wifi 6 router at home, (With this 2 combined), you can use this phone poco f3 as a portable SSD ?
What does a phone have the capabilities of a portable SSD does though?
Jason_Lim said:
Usually for Phones i will use it until it spoil, preferably 4-5 years, i am not into filming though, but am wanna try to take good picture and maybe some video for experience.
What do you mean streaming services ?
what Cloud Services you used, is it free or paid ( If it is paid, are they any free cloud services, that maybe have unlimited store) ?
You mean that if this phone has usb 3.1, and you have wifi 6 router at home, (With this 2 combined), you can use this phone poco f3 as a portable SSD ?
What does a phone have the capabilities of a portable SSD does though?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I use Onedrive for work purposes, Google drive for generic things and Amazon photos for pictures. i've also a NAS at home for mass storage.
For streaming services i mean Spotify/tidal, Prime video ecc. if you don't use those and you still want to listen to music or watch a movie having more interna storage might be useful.
UFS 3.1 can saturate a usb3.0 connection, so if you have avaiable space you could use a phone like a portable ssd. unfortunately this phone only has usb 2.0 so it transfers files at a slow rate over USB.
to transfer files at high speed with this phone you better use wifi 6 or 5. Actual use wifi 6 speeds are on par with USB3.0 but using wifi is not as practical as a wired connection
GranoTurc00 said:
I use Onedrive for work purposes, Google drive for generic things and Amazon photos for pictures. i've also a NAS at home for mass storage.
For streaming services i mean Spotify/tidal, Prime video ecc. if you don't use those and you still want to listen to music or watch a movie having more interna storage might be useful.
UFS 3.1 can saturate a usb3.0 connection, so if you have avaiable space you could use a phone like a portable ssd. unfortunately this phone only has usb 2.0 so it transfers files at a slow rate over USB.
to transfer files at high speed with this phone you better use wifi 6 or 5. Actual use wifi 6 speeds are on par with USB3.0 but using wifi is not as practical as a wired connection
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Onedrive, google drive and amazon photos, are you paying for more storage (monthly subscription) or used the free storage?
Streaming service like Sptofiy/tidal, but isn't the streaming service cost data (I have limited data)??
Cloud junk is a sick battery draining joke.
If you have an SD card slot your ok with the smaller internal memory otherwise not.
6 gb of RAM is enough but... more RAM and internal memory are always good to have.
I think it's totally depending on your usage. If you take vids/pics regularly & gaming is important to you (at least when you need), or switch between apps frequently for productivity, 8+256 would benefit in the long term. Extra $/€50 would make the phone more future-proof.
Personally I have 8+256 Poco F2 Pro as my spare phone for gaming, which average memory usage is ~3GB. I picked 6+128 F3 this time as the extra memory & storage is useless for my case.
You will notice significant improvement from your old phone no matter which version you will be using. If F3 would be your main phone, get the 8+256 variant in case you need the extra bits one day.
Jason_Lim said:
Onedrive, google drive and amazon photos, are you paying for more storage (monthly subscription) or used the free storage?
Streaming service like Sptofiy/tidal, but isn't the streaming service cost data (I have limited data)??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
multiple free plans linked with multiple mails. i do not use streaming services but there are mobile plans with unlimited data for them.
blackhawk said:
Cloud junk is a sick battery draining joke.
If you have an SD card slot your ok with the smaller internal memory otherwise not.
6 gb of RAM is enough but... more RAM and internal memory are always good to have.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you can disable auto refresh and backups to save battery. mine are always done while charging
GranoTurc00 said:
you can disable auto refresh and backups to save battery. mine are always done while charging
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's not reliable. Multiple hdds backups are the only way to go. I have over 340gb of data on my phone making cloud storage a complete joke.
Sandisk makes C port flash sticks that transfer at about a 1gb @minute. I use a .5tb one to backup my phone SD card then at least 2 hdds to back that up. Some of my data backups are on 5 hdds in multiple locations.
There are only two types of computer users, those who have lost data, and those who will.
Plan ahead... $hit happens.
you dont have to use the usb for transfering files,you can also use one of the many wifi file transfer apps and with AC wifi get some nice speeds that are much faster then usb2.0
blackhawk said:
Cloud junk is a sick battery draining joke.
If you have an SD card slot your ok with the smaller internal memory otherwise not.
6 gb of RAM is enough but... more RAM and internal memory are always good to have.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Poco F3 have no sd card slot sadly..
ivanpocofone said:
I think it's totally depending on your usage. If you take vids/pics regularly & gaming is important to you (at least when you need), or switch between apps frequently for productivity, 8+256 would benefit in the long term. Extra $/€50 would make the phone more future-proof.
Personally I have 8+256 Poco F2 Pro as my spare phone for gaming, which average memory usage is ~3GB. I picked 6+128 F3 this time as the extra memory & storage is useless for my case.
You will notice significant improvement from your old phone no matter which version you will be using. If F3 would be your main phone, get the 8+256 variant in case you need the extra bits one day.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yeah F3 is my main phone, the 8+256 variant is out of stock, might take a month to restock and may not have the early bird discount anymore.
GranoTurc00 said:
multiple free plans linked with multiple mails. i do not use streaming services but there are mobile plans with unlimited data for them.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
what do you mean by multiple free plans linked with multiple mails ?
Do elaborate abit more, and how to do that ?
Jason_Lim said:
Poco F3 have no sd card slot sadly..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The high capacity flash stick is as good as it gets. So far the .5 tb Sandisk is working well.
I will not buy a laptop or a phone that doesn't support a data drive (SD card). Been setting up my all machines with OS/data drives for almost 20 years. Easier, faster operation and better data security.
Jason_Lim said:
Poco F3 have no sd card slot sadly..
yeah F3 is my main phone, the 8+256 variant is out of stock, might take a month to restock and may not have the early bird discount anymore.
what do you mean by multiple free plans linked with multiple mails ?
Do elaborate abit more, and how to do that ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't think they will offer sales @ early bird price again in a near future, though you might be able to get other sitewide discounts (e.g. $20 off 2xx).
Given your Redmi's broken, if 128GB is enough for you, don't wait for the 256GB variant. Even if you'd like to switch to a 256GB F3 later, the 128GB one won't sell too low in 2nd hand market.
blackhawk said:
It's not reliable. Multiple hdds backups are the only way to go. I have over 340gb of data on my phone making cloud storage a complete joke.
Sandisk makes C port flash sticks that transfer at about a 1gb @minute. I use a .5tb one to backup my phone SD card then at least 2 hdds to back that up. Some of my data backups are on 5 hdds in multiple locations.
There are only two types of computer users, those who have lost data, and those who will.
Plan ahead... $hit happens.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i don't think my way of doing things is wrong. Even free cloud storage uses enterprise machines, they surely have more copies of my files, is nearly impossible to loose them. Also all the cloud storages i use are synced witch mt pc that is synced with my local NAS. this way i have multiple delocalized copies of my most important data without moving a finger. this doesn't count the general backups i do on external drives every 6 months
Jason_Lim said:
Poco F3 have no sd card slot sadly..
yeah F3 is my main phone, the 8+256 variant is out of stock, might take a month to restock and may not have the early bird discount anymore.
what do you mean by multiple free plans linked with multiple mails ?
Do elaborate abit more, and how to do that ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
for example make more Gmail accounts. Every account has 15Gb of free Google drive space. you add all the accounts in the Google Drive app et voilà you have multiple 15Gb cloud storages for free. same goes with onedrive ( in my opinion Onedrive is better but offers less space and MEGA has the worse app but offers more free space so choose based on your needs)
GranoTurc00 said:
for example make more Gmail accounts. Every account has 15Gb of free Google drive space. you add all the accounts in the Google Drive app et voilà you have multiple 15Gb cloud storages for free. same goes with onedrive ( in my opinion Onedrive is better but offers less space and MEGA has the worse app but offers more free space so choose based on your needs)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You mean the Google Drive app, preinstalled in poco f3 ??
Is there a limit on how many gmail accounts you can have in google drive?
Will the photos/videos in google drive disappear after 6months , 1 years, 5 years, 10 years???
Jason_Lim said:
You mean the Google Drive app, preinstalled in poco f3 ??
Is there a limit on how many gmail accounts you can have in google drive?
Will the photos/videos in google drive disappear after 6months , 1 years, 5 years, 10 years???
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1)Yes
2)not that i know, evey account is considered a different person
3) you need to login every once in a while but they send you a mail before deleting your stuff due to inactivity
GranoTurc00 said:
1)Yes
2)not that i know, evey account is considered a different person
3) you need to login every once in a while but they send you a mail before deleting your stuff due to inactivity
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
3) Since you have added your multiple gmail account (let's say 20 gmails account), into google drive, but before u added in, you need to login right? Doesn't that consider login ? So why need to login every once in a while though ???
What's the longest photos or videos you have kept in google drive until now ?
Jason_Lim said:
3) Since you have added your multiple gmail account (let's say 20 gmails account), into google drive, but before u added in, you need to login right? Doesn't that consider login ? So why need to login every once in a while though ???
What's the longest photos or videos you have kept in google drive until now ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
your phone can sync with only one account at the same time so when you switch account you log off. your other ( not main) accounts remain saved but they're inactive. With the poco you can clone apps so maybe if you need more accounts synced at the same time you can go that route