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SMS and MMS

Well basically I am getting charged for some of my text messages and I do not know why.
If I send a long text message will it send as a MMS???
THanks ... this is with T-Mobile

You need to speak to tmobile.

The manual says that an SMS will automatically be converted to an MMS if "very long", but not how long. Can you visually tell when this happens?

fakeuser456 said:
The manual says that an SMS will automatically be converted to an MMS if "very long", but not how long. Can you visually tell when this happens?
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Just like when you add a word tot he dictionary it will appear eith "Converting to MMS ..." once it is too long.

if memory serves, it's somewhere between 3 and 5 SMS messages in length where it changes to an MMS.

I always though 5 was the max for text messages on any phone. Then it breaks it down into seperate messages.

O and O said:
I always though 5 was the max for text messages on any phone. Then it breaks it down into seperate messages.
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it just sends it as an MMS and i get charged by T-Mobile 17p every time that happens!
That is twice now! But at least I know before i rack up a huge bill!
I will experiment and find out!

Raminder1992 said:
it just sends it as an MMS and i get charged by T-Mobile 17p every time that happens!
That is twice now! But at least I know before i rack up a huge bill!
I will experiment and find out!
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Happened to me last week, NOT COOL!

is there a way around this ?
like a config option or something like that ?
is this specific to the desire or android ?

This is standard behaviour for all Android devices, and it applies to the stock messaging app. The reason for this, is that if you are going to send more than three SMSes, it will in most cases be cheaper to send an MMS. This does not of course apply when you have unlimited texts or other discounts.
Until this gets fixed, download a replacement from the market. Try chompSMS or Handcent SMS. The automatic conversion is optional in these.

ah ok
hope this gets fixed fast

using an alternative sms program such as handcent sms or chomp sms gives you the option to break up long text messages into seperate texts instead of converting to mms

Question for Google Voice users

Hi everyone,
I'm using a GSM version of our GN. I only use Google Voice as I change carriers very often therefor I never want to give the carrier phone number.
When receiving a call on ICS we have 3 options:
- pick up
- Decline
- or send a quick preset text message.
Is there a way to make the phone send the text message out of GV and not the carrier Caller ID?
I'd pay for an app to do just that.
Thanks

turn off texting on the phone altogether and it forces GV to send any texts...but you lose MMS capability...
when you choose to send text, does it ask you if you want to send it through GV or regular? probably not if the call comes in on your regular number...try having someone call your GV number and send them a text to see which number shows up...
if that works, just use the GV number for everything

Yeah the text reply is useless because it uses the built in texting and not the GV app. That was the case when I tried it a year or two ago it might have changed now but I doubt it.
Also GV has MMS now (receiving).

aldo37 said:
Yeah the text reply is useless because it uses the built in texting and not the GV app. That was the case when I tried it a year or two ago it might have changed now but I doubt it.
Also GV has MMS now (receiving).
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I've heard rumors some people can get MMS. (through some kind of forward to gmail setup) but it's never worked for me.

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Not quite... you can receive MMS from a Sprint sender. That's it. Your provider doesn't matter, nothing else matters. Only Sprint senders.
None of my friends have Sprint (or anyone I know really) so for all intents and purposes GV still doesn't have MMS (at least for me).

On a similar note...does anyone else feel google treats Google Voice as a red headed stepchild?
I have been using a year and a half old version of the app because it's the only one that treats the back button as an actual return to main screen button...instead of some funky cycle through every previous text button. It is also the last version to handle notifications correctly (newer versions keep the notification in task bar if you reply to one online)

I've tried setting my phone to use GV as the default way to send texts, but still see he same bad behavior with Verizon texts being sent from quick messages. Sucks!
Probably will need an updated dialer from google, but if anyone has any other ideas I'll try them...

Royal2000H said:
Not quite... you can receive MMS from a Sprint sender. That's it. Your provider doesn't matter, nothing else matters. Only Sprint senders.
None of my friends have Sprint (or anyone I know really) so for all intents and purposes GV still doesn't have MMS (at least for me).
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I don't think so. I receive MMS from people all the time in my inbox (Sprint and non-Sprint). You have to make sure email notification when you get a text is on I think.

Please Help - Multi Text Issue With ICS & CM9

Hello everyone, I would like to start by saying thank you to everyone here, all of your posts, info, etc has been excellent in helping me along my way to learning enough about this stuff to be dangerous to mine & my friends phones...we're all still using them so that's a "Win" in my book
Now, on to my problem. I've tried googling & searching posts here, and I don't know if it's just the terminology I've searched but I've found nothing similar to my problem except where a thread had to do with EMBS messages coming through incorrectly.
First off, I'm on a Sprint Branded Samsung Epic Touch 4g Galaxy S II (whew that's a mouthful already) It is on Verizon Prepaid Service.
When I first set this phone up, everything worked correctly - Talk, Text, Web, MMS, WiFi Hotspot, Etc - all working perfectly. I was able to send & receive picture mail through MMS, etc.
I am currently running CyanogenMod 9-20120416-SNAPSHOT-epic4gtouch-Alpha 3
Android Ver 4.04
Kernel Ver 3.0.15-SPH-D710.FD10-CL377892
This is the updates I installed to this phone originally:
gapps-ics-20120429-signed
StockCWM-EL26.tar.md5
update-cm-9-20120416-SNAPSHOT-epic4gtouch-alpha3-signed
mmsfix.zip (and made the correct changes for Verizon)
As I said, the phone was 100% functioning at this point for several days. The problem that came up happened out of nowhere, no changes were made to the phone whatsoever, not even a random app was installed from the market.
The only apps I have installed are
Wifi Tether (Rooted Users)
ES File Explorer
Facebook
GMail
Craigslist
Facebook Contact Sync
NFL Scoreboard
QR Droid
SuperUser
Rom Toolbox
Rom Manager
Terminal Emulator
Other than that, it's just what ICS & GApps Installed.
So here's the problem - whenever I recieve a text from anyone now, if it comes in multiple texts (ie 1/2, 2/2/ etc) it shows up as all special characters when I recieve it.
Here is the last one I got, I sent it from another phone on the same carrier - I just typed myself a message until I was sure it would be a 2 part message and this is what came through on my Epic
First Msg
ß<xp¿AcGÉ?üööysgOS&Læ;6lX9W/Ü<9rfEØΨ+FøÆ8xp¿A¥ìÅß<xqF<9$fÅz<EEggÜNixw¿
5¥rdåÆΩÖÅΠ'ålÄ3gF
3vø)rlyscW/Ü>ñzsbEKΨ/ÜÆ_gGEìgVLhurd1äñ2AÅZ#ΛC<z¡@@@@@@@
Second Msg
Ü=ävhPfOÉ?N3vlY1cnÖ<yreIΨ/Ü<9rfEØC¥ìÅÆ8xpaCì
Λ(XΔA$éZTGøΔHEwì/ÖrsOà#Ec=P
I put it in a hex/text converter and the text version came up all "?'s" so I'm pretty much at a loss at this point.
I apologize for a long winded message, but I wanted to include as much information about my phone, etc as possible to get the best answer I could.
Again, thank you all and if anyone has any insight to what might be causing this, I would greatly appreciate the info.

Oh, and in case I didn't make it clear - at this moment, text works fine (if its only 1 text at a time incoming) I can send multiple page texts & the recipient gets them no problem, and I can send/recieve pictures, etc as mms with no problems...the problem only exists if it's multiple pages of text coming in at once.
Thanks

What happens if you use a 3rd party messaging app like handcent?

someguyatx said:
What happens if you use a 3rd party messaging app like handcent?
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I just tried a few diff versions of Handcent, with the settings Default, then again with the settings on "Default SMS/MMS App (Disables Stock & Other Messaging Apps) and got the same results...
The wierd character code that comes through is exactly the same, both with the stock app & handcent in case that might be a question...

**Update**
I have Google Voice number sending voicemail converted as text to my phone on a secondary number. I got one today, was 3 pages SMS and it came through perfectly, right after that, I got a reg text from someone elses phone that was 2 pages, and it was the same type characters, and a few more since that were all the same special characters.
I've tested the Google Voice translation a few more times, and it comes through perfectly. I also tested just sending a multi-page text to my google voice number, which just forwarded the texts to my phone via SMS and they also come through perfectly.
So SMS from Google Voice in multiple texts works great, but from another phone do not.
If anyone has seen anything like this, I would love to know I'm not alone.

I'm having this exact same problem too. I noticed multiple texts incoming from certain people are fine, but when I receive multiple texts from a few others or a group sms from an iphone I get this really wonky characters. Any help would be appreciated. I am using this phone through pageplus.

[Q] MMS Not sending with WiFi on

Hi all, Just recently picked up the G3 after Trading in my HTC One M8. I'm having issues sending and receiving MMS while my wifi is on when using Evolve SMS. I know that Textra has a work around built in where it turns off Wifi To send the MMS over Data but I don't really care for the look of Textra. I'm not sure if maybe my settings are off with Evolve as when I had my M8 it would send and receive with no problem. Anyone else having issues with this or know of any other 3rd party MMS apps that have the work aroudn built in like Textra?
Thanks,

Believe it or not every phone is different. Download and test. What works for me hasn't worked for others

EggNogg421 said:
Hi all, Just recently picked up the G3 after Trading in my HTC One M8. I'm having issues sending and receiving MMS while my wifi is on when using Evolve SMS. I know that Textra has a work around built in where it turns off Wifi To send the MMS over Data but I don't really care for the look of Textra. I'm not sure if maybe my settings are off with Evolve as when I had my M8 it would send and receive with no problem. Anyone else having issues with this or know of any other 3rd party MMS apps that have the work aroudn built in like Textra?
Thanks,
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It depends on the app. I have issues with hello sms, but had them with the Nexus 5 too. Chomp SMS works more reliably, but I never know if I'm missing messages. I've resorted to using hangouts with the SO for images, and use texting for sms only.
Convincing other users to jump on yet another messaging app is always a hassle.

havanahjoe said:
It depends on the app. I have issues with hello sms, but had them with the Nexus 5 too. Chomp SMS works more reliably, but I never know if I'm missing messages. I've resorted to using hangouts with the SO for images, and use texting for sms only.
Convincing other users to jump on yet another messaging app is always a hassle.
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I went back to the stock messaging app because it was the only one that seemed to send and receive everything reliably while on wifi calling mode.
I mean, for one example, Google Hangouts doesn't even offer to resize pictures - and when you have a hard message size limit, that's a deal breaker. (The stock app indicates 1 MB is it.)

[Q] Stop texts from breaking up

Stop texts from breaking up, How?
Every time I get a long text message it's broken up into multiple messages, it's annoying because sometimes they dont all come in at the same time, or they do and i think i have a **** ton of msgs lol. It's the same on the stock messaging app and google's messaging app. Is there a setting somewhere that I've missed? It's happened with incoming msgs from iphones and android phones on different carriers.

mykull said:
Stop texts from breaking up, How?
Every time I get a long text message it's broken up into multiple messages, it's annoying because sometimes they dont all come in at the same time, or they do and i think i have a **** ton of msgs lol. It's the same on the stock messaging app and google's messaging app. Is there a setting somewhere that I've missed? It's happened with incoming msgs from iphones and android phones on different carriers.
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There is little you can do, it is the carrier of the sender that is doing it. Many carriers limit the number of characters you can have per text. So if they go over it gets broken into multiple text messages. It is not an issue on your end.

I also hate this.. When I had att I didn't have this problem..

Wasn't there an option to send messages bigger then a # of characters through MMS instead of using normal split SMS?
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Spark91 said:
Wasn't there an option to send messages bigger then a # of characters through MMS instead of using normal split SMS?
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Yes I think there is. This is for sending messages though. When receiving a message it depends on how the senders app sends it.
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Cbass15 said:
I also hate this.. When I had att I didn't have this problem..
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I think att and t-mobile are able to send messages without breaking it up after 150 characters.

Easy fix, just make hangouts your default SMS app...
Otherwise you're at the mercy of the carrier.

Stryke_the_Orc said:
Easy fix, just make hangouts your default SMS app...
Otherwise you're at the mercy of the carrier.
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I noticed hangouts fixes a lot of messaging problems.. Why is this? If you don't care to elaborate. ?

Cbass15 said:
I noticed hangouts fixes a lot of messaging problems.. Why is this? If you don't care to elaborate. ?
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Just a guess, but I'd say it's likely due to being Google's app and having tighter integration with the framework than carrier based bloat.

Stryke_the_Orc said:
Easy fix, just make hangouts your default SMS app...
Otherwise you're at the mercy of the carrier.
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Yeah hangouts works great. Only problem I have is you can't send or receive mms while on wifi calling.

Now i have always had that issue but my GF gets all my messages as one no matter how long i make it without turning it into an MMS and hers to me get chopped up. We both have sprint. And she has an S5.

adrianr514 said:
Now i have always had that issue but my GF gets all my messages as one no matter how long i make it without turning it into an MMS and hers to me get chopped up. We both have sprint. And she has an S5.
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Just tried this sending myself a very long text via Wi-Fi on Sprint messaging app; it does work to combine the messages without converting to MMS.
Like others have said variables may limit results. My wife is also on my Sprint account using an iPhone 5 and her messages to me split from what I can see; don't know if hers from me split or not. Cross platform texting hasn't been reliable.

Have you tried the setting?

KLPFL said:
Have you tried the setting?
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Initially failed to Motorola Photon Q. Had found the setting and enabled it and rebooted the phone; split the long message into 4 out-of-order texts. Did the System settings/System update/Update Profile on both phones and it works both ways. Sent the same text to to the iPhone 5 and it split. I've asked my wife to update her profile but she's busy; will try again later.
On my phone, had to defrost Samsung DM Service and reinstall Sprint Zone and let it update and opt out of EUL anonymous data sharing, agree to terms before I could update the profile.
BTW, combining the long text and sending a short text after that may have the shorter message arriving first. I actually sent an inquiry after getting notification that the long text test message had been forwarded back to me. The notice and inquiry went through before I got the combined message sent first.

I don't know if it happened to me or not.. never pay attention to it....gotta test later to see if if it's the same problem

How long is long. . I tested by sending to myself. But don't know if it is long enough.

My test text message consists of 80 words which was splitting into 4 text messages. Seems to be working between two different Android phones but still unknown if profile update will get it working cross-platform to/from iPhone. The Sprint iPhone 5 on the account seems to frequently have inability to sync texts with Android over Wi-Fi. Sometimes, it's just texting in general that the iPhone 5 loses.
For testing, just kept using the same message forwarded until it was received by both phones without the split.
May be wrong but sending it to yourself may only be an indication your phone can combine. It takes the profile update to tell Sprint you wish to use the combining method which appears to be an exception to every phone. Being on Gingerbread and CM for a long time, this is the first time I've seen the combining feature. About time! Hope it continues to work without frequent profile updates then broke again/update again.

This doesn't make sense. .i sent to my wife iPhone.. she received one full message but when she sent to me using the same text message it broke up to 4...wth

KLPFL said:
This doesn't make sense. .i sent to my wife iPhone.. she received one full message but when she sent to me using the same text message it broke up to 4...wth
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Did you perform the profile update on both phones? Does the Sprint iPhone have the combine text option for texts?
I haven't tried the profile update and retest with the iPhone 5 yet. Haven't seen the the settings menu on the iPhone 5, either. I think that phone is still on iOS7; afraid the update would result in early upgrade.

Not on the iPhone just the note 4

Open the stock messaging app and go to text message settings and make sure auto combination is checked.
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