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I was wondering if the technology is available to connect an xbox controller to a WM7 phone. If this could be accomplished, Microsoft wouldn't have to stick to the terrible arcade game intergration, but could expand it to include Actual Xbox 360 games, downloaded as application games for retail prices (or less), or the games might be transferrable from your xbox (with the disk in it) to your phone as a one time download. This would truly make the WM7 phone the ultimate entertainment device, and it would distinguish it from any other phone company out there.
Any thoughts on how to make this happen, or if it's even possible?
In theory it's possible but you'd have to have a computer hooked up to the controller running a web service that the game communicates with. It would be much too slow to be useable.
So a 2 ghz processor (which is potentially entering the market next year) and a 4g connection with Sprint wouldn't make this concept possible?
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So a 2 ghz processor (which is potentially entering the market next year) and a 4g connection with Sprint wouldn't make this concept possible?
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no. Too much lag. Even on WiFi it would be too laggy for most games.
If Microsoft did a massive change in their policies or somehow sanctioned this, you would have to have some sort of hardware dongle connected to the phone that would allow the phone to communicate to the controller. Then you wouldn't have the lag. But that's not gonna happen.
Yea, the tech is there, but is it worth it? The addition steps and input latency would just ruin it. A Much easier concept would be using the wii mote or PS3 controller since they both have Bluetooth connectivity. There have already been hacks with android, winmo 6.5, and the Iphone where people have used the Wiimote/PS3 controller for gaming. I see no reason for it unless your running a console emulator.
... or they could just make the controller with the proper port (likely microUSB) and just create a driver for it in WP7
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... or they could just make the controller with the proper port (likely microUSB) and just create a driver for it in WP7
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Still have the ol host-peripheral problem. Both devices are expecting to be a peripheral. The Xbox controller also expects to get power from the host. Possible? Most likely (depends on the hardware in the phone). Practical? Absolutely not.
As long as the Phones will be able to play some of the more indy 3d games on xbox (the little $10 or less games on there) that should be enough. No reason to try and play Halo 3 on the phone, but a lot of those smaller games on the xbox actually are really dang good.
Could you imagine games like Geometry Wars 2, PvZ, Worms 2 Armageddon, Sam & Max, and countless others? Similar to some of the good iPhone games, but with DirectX 9 capable graphics, we can seriously get some good games ported. I have been dying for a full Worms game port (WM Worms World Party was a bit of a cut down letdown), and many other games that should have been ported but never were. Tyrian, Ultrabots, Red Alert 1, etc. Hopefully this OS will change some of that.
IM0001 said:
As long as the Phones will be able to play some of the more indy 3d games on xbox (the little $10 or less games on there) that should be enough. No reason to try and play Halo 3 on the phone, but a lot of those smaller games on the xbox actually are really dang good.
Could you imagine games like Geometry Wars 2, PvZ, Worms 2 Armageddon, Sam & Max, and countless others? Similar to some of the good iPhone games, but with DirectX 9 capable graphics, we can seriously get some good games ported. I have been dying for a full Worms game port (WM Worms World Party was a bit of a cut down letdown), and many other games that should have been ported but never were. Tyrian, Ultrabots, Red Alert 1, etc. Hopefully this OS will change some of that.
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good news is the games are all written in XNA so a port would be simple, its just up to the developers to do it & figure out touch controls
I can just imagine, the emulator ports you smart guys at xda will be able to come up with. I will have a mobile beast in my hands.
Have you guys searched Youtube for some of the awesome games already in production for WP7? Their are a lot of new guys making simple XNA games that look promising then their are games like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp7UHk1k4xY and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLLp6kLe1IA&feature=related and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZksEnvA_hQA&feature=fvwas well as Apps like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnkWbUxFqNk&feature=related coming out. Seriously sweet stuff.
no link to Harvest?
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PaperBall
Next War
Twin Blade
Grand Piano
Harvest looks alright but the rest looks like crap...
Just a quick question: Is this phone's gaming-thingies more for the hardcore or could potentially be for the hardcore? or is it geared toward the casual gamer? considering other platforms have Dead Space and NFS Shift? Having second thoughts
I'd say casual, it has xbox live integration however the current selection of games on offer are either overpriced or indie / casual orientated. ilomilo for example.
The whole idea of gaming on a mobile device is that it's casual. It's deigned for people who want to play a game while on the bus, during free time, in queues.
Yes, gaming on mobiles will improve but they'll always be casual. Why would someone want to play on a 3.7" screen when they have a large HDTV and XBOX / PS at home?
Even in technologically advanced games such as Dead Space, it's still designed to give you something to do when you have a little time to waste.
Casual, in fact, mobile gaming will always be consider casual in my opinion due to the fact that they have to last all day. I personally wouldn't take hardcore gaming serious on a phone when I have a laptop that can run just about any game.
WP7 - casual
IOS/Android -hardcore and casual, especially with HDMI out or video out. You basically have a Wii and a Playstation in your hand.
Smartphones are headed closer and closer to PC, remember that.
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Smartphones are headed closer and closer to PC, remember that.
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Maybe mid range powered PC, not even a replacement to a decent specs gaming laptop. Maybe one day they will catch up to PS3/360 graphics power, but the GPU will never reach PC power due to being SoC. PC gaming is getting crazy powerful and if AMD does something, it looks like the resolution might get way high.
In other news, you can play Angry Birds on Wintel and Mac OS X.
Games on PC will be cross platform played with their mobile counterparts.
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Games on PC will be cross platform played with their mobile counterparts.
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Why would I want to play watered down versions of games? I will still choose computer over mobile any day, mainly because I don't have to make calls on my computer. Oh and
Don't see smartphones OS' being taken serious for hardcore gaming, unless you consider the tablet counterparts with the larger screen size.
A phone can't match the hardware performance of an Xbox 360, PS3 or a new generation PC because of the size constraints, battery restriction, etc. You can't really compare a game console that is always plugged to the power source to a phone, or even a tablet, that has to use a small battery.
Now, phones still get some really good games, but a console/pc will still be a better place for hardcore gamers.
Both.
They're the best games I've ever played on a mobile. Coming from years on Android I thought they had some decent games until I came over.
Some are Casual, some are "Hardcore" (especially since you describe NFS Shift as Hardcore, WP7 has NFS Undercover).
The Harvest is a pretty hardcore game for a mobile, as is Ilomilo. Max and the Magic Marker is a good platformer and Earthworm Jim was ofc already a SNES game. All of these games I've mentioned I'd have no problem playing on my Xbox so I'd call them hardcore.
Who said anything about matching hardware performance of today? Fact smartphones are headed closer and closer to PC capabilities. Its like you guys want to argue for fun, but this is a fact.
WP7 is lonely gaming. When im around my friend with a iphone, I can pull out my android phone and play against him. Everyone doesn't have an iphone, and everyone doesn't have a Android, but we can play against each other effortlessly.
Hardcore to me is everything beyond Angry birds style of gaming.
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The Harvest is a pretty hardcore game for a mobile, as is Ilomilo. Max and the Magic Marker is a good platformer and Earthworm Jim was ofc already a SNES game. All of these games I've mentioned I'd have no problem playing on my Xbox so I'd call them hardcore.
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Apparently ilomilo is a game you can get on the Xbox live thing. One day, we might see something like Gears of War or any other Xbox like games on WP7 phones.
I do believe that because WP7 has Xbox live, which is infinity better than well, whatever Android and iOS uses, that it might have some potential for more "hardcore" gaming.
Plus, Microsoft has experience in gaming. They have the 360 and in some ways, PC. Apple and Google, not so much.
The only thing Xbox LIVE wins at is chat. Game Center pawns at everything else. And you know what Xbox LIVE is available on every other major smartphone OS.
Microsoft has a huge chance to take this market over, but right now their screwing it up.
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Game Center pawns at everything else.
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And all the games with Game Center enable are casual. Unless you want to argue about how Pac Man and Angry Bird is consider hardcore.
This is supposed to be casual.
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Maybe mid range powered PC, not even a replacement to a decent specs gaming laptop. Maybe one day they will catch up to PS3/360 graphics power, but the GPU will never reach PC power due to being SoC. PC gaming is getting crazy powerful and if AMD does something, it looks like the resolution might get way high.
In other news, you can play Angry Birds on Wintel and Mac OS X.
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yeah, doesn't the new psp coming out have 4 graphics chips???
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Apparently ilomilo is a game you can get on the Xbox live thing. One day, we might see something like Gears of War or any other Xbox like games on WP7 phones.
I do believe that because WP7 has Xbox live, which is infinity better than well, whatever Android and iOS uses, that it might have some potential for more "hardcore" gaming.
Plus, Microsoft has experience in gaming. They have the 360 and in some ways, PC. Apple and Google, not so much.
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I've read that they are going to make a halo port. That would be pretty hard core.
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And all the games with Game Center enable are casual. Unless you want to argue about how Pac Man and Angry Bird is consider hardcore.
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You obviously haven't played any Game Center games. Those two aren't even multi-player. But please let's not turn this into every other OS sucks except WP7.
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yeah, doesn't the new psp coming out have 4 graphics chips???
I've read that they are going to make a halo port. That would be pretty hard core.
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Halo port? Isn't NOVA out, change the name and its the same thing as Halo.
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You obviously haven't played any Game Center games. Those two aren't even multi-player. But please let's not turn this into every other OS sucks except WP7.
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why not? According to you, every OS rocks except wp7.
nrfitchett4 said:
yeah, doesn't the new psp coming out have 4 graphics chips???
I've read that they are going to make a halo port. That would be pretty hard core.
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The PSP2 is designed for one thing, gaming obviously, at least I hope Sony is marketing it as that.
I've only played Halo once and it seems pretty fun. Would be really cool if they had the energy sword on the port.
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Yes I have. It reminds me more of the Nintendo DS gaming, which is casual.
why has no one tried to port psp to xperia play i know there are like a million games id love to play and if a 333mhz processor can play awesome games im sure a 1GHZ processer could emulate those games or something comon throw me a bone
OMG Have you even tried to use the search function? This has been asked so often and the answhere stays NOOOOOOOOOOOO! PSP Games are not open source so unly the original devs could do that but they wont becouse PSP games cost about 30$ and android games much less. Got it?
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why has no one tried to port psp to xperia play i know there are like a million games id love to play and if a 333mhz processor can play awesome games im sure a 1GHZ processer could emulate those games or something comon throw me a bone
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Sure. Fetch.
So do you think a pentium 1 that is more that 333 mhz can play psp games?
Mhz means nothing.
a pentium computer need to emulate all the cpu instruction.... I think that a arm cpu (like these in our smartphone) will be more appropriate to emulate the psp wich use the same type of instruction.... so must of the cpu instruction don't have to be converted to something else.... The dreamcast is in the same case....
Where sony may have some trouble... is how the psp use 2 chip to do the job.... the interaction between the media engine and the cpu is more complex then what you may think.... and with only one chip(current smartphone), that interaction is pretty hard to reproduce/emulate...
my bad i forgot it was dualcore and watnot and i searched after i posted i delete this shortly
i belive that in less than 3 years, smartphones will run psp games, likes running psOne games now
Why would you need PSP games, when you can play PC games?
The button layout is quite the same, so it's easier to play PSP games.
I wonder why Sony doesn't port Loco Roco to mobile... It was successful, and the whole concept is easily translatable not only to Xperia Play but to any gyroscope-toting device.
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i belive that in less than 3 years, smartphones will run psp games, likes running psOne games now
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less then 3 years?? i predict 2012, with tegra 3 already here with its 12 core GPU and other CPU manufacturers not wanting to be to behind for long quad core will be more common place and should be able to emulate PSP games, maybe even dreamcast......
couldnt agree more, it would be the best game we have! same applies for rolando on iphone, all it needs is the shoulder buttons to rotate
the sad thing about android is the games for the most part blow or are obvious cheap ripoffs iphone has amazing games and all the awesome old games are being ported to it like warrior within and raptor call of the shadows
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The button layout is quite the same, so it's easier to play PSP games.
I wonder why Sony doesn't port Loco Roco to mobile... It was successful, and the whole concept is easily translatable not only to Xperia Play but to any gyroscope-toting device.
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funny how you say that
Loco Roco Midnight Carnival for Xperia Play (Vid/Tut/Caps)
Well think about it.. Even PSX emulation isn't perfect on the Play, what makes you think PSP would run any better?
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funny how you say that
Loco Roco Midnight Carnival for Xperia Play (Vid/Tut/Caps)
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I didn't know it was available but it's only for Japan, it seems
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the sad thing about android is the games for the most part blow or are obvious cheap ripoffs iphone has amazing games and all the awesome old games are being ported to it like warrior within and raptor call of the shadows
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Many of the games are nearly identical between Android and iPhone, there are tons of great games for it. Yes iPhone has more, but you also have to use touch controls which suck.
The PS Suite will be out in a month or so for this phone with tons of PSX ports, This phone is by far a better gaming device.
PS I loved Raptor: Call of the Shadows, but it was hardly any sort of super blockbuster A title. Awesome old games (like Sonic CD, GTA 3, etc) have been ported to both at the same time, and they are better on Android
I <3 Raptor too... Retro gaming FTW!
I have an iphone 4 now but i dont to play games on it due the small screen. Im looking a 2 scenarios. Keep my iphone and a actual handhelp system like the 3ds or psp vita. Then ive seen bestbuy has the play 4g for free with an upgrade. So im really wondering how are all of satisfied with the play as a gaming device and a phone? I really want the physical controls but does the obsolete hardware hinder it?
What is this obsolete hardware you speak of?
If you want actal high quality games buy a 3DS or PS Vita, If you want emulators get the Play. The real Xperia Play optimised games are nice but they are cheap and buggy iphone ports, so if you want high quality gaming get a hendheld.
People on here seem to try to deny it but yes the Play is somewhat sluggish as an android device when compared to such as the SGSII or the sensation xe and some newer games don't run great. Dead on arrival runs slowly, gta 3 has the graphics turned down and still suffers terrible frame rate drops regularly, and fifa 12 has terrible lag.
Having said that, I really wouldn't fancy trying to play those games on a touch screen, which is why I got the play!
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Opinions are like buttholes - everyone has one.
Personally, I love my Play. I don't find it to be laggy at all, once I took the time to customize it. Never a big time gamer, I find I play a lot more games now that I have the Play than I ever did with the handhelds I have owned. It really comes down to what your expectations are. If you want a great phone that can do many things well including play some great games, get the Play. If you're going to want the hottest, latest game titles, then get a cheap phone that doesn't require a data plan, or stick with that I-don't-know-what-I-was-thinkin'-phone, and buy whichever game system you think will best serve your interests.
The Xperia play has never been that sluggish to me, and I'm a heavy app user too, It performs just like another android device, I also installed v6 supercharger, Xperia play is a good phone.
SERIOUSLY, Fifa 12 lags on your Xperia PLAY?
what have you been doing to your phone lately?
Yep, my Xperia PLAY has also been lag-free.
I have a GS2, Atrix and G2x available to test on at any given time, and Xperia PLAY runs games just as smoothly as they do despite being a single core. It's far from obsolete, and as someone who also came from 4th gen iDevices... I can safely say it's been MUCH better at everything.
jeah performence is one thing... but the other thing is the quality of the games...
compare Street fighter 3DS with Bruce Lee
compare Splinter cell Conviction with Splinter Cell 3D
compare Mario Kart 7 with "Shrek Kart" or what ever
And than look at Super Mario 3D Land and cry becouse you have a Xperia Play and not a 3DS....
Understand what i mean?
So now we are comparing a next gen deadicated portable gaming device to a cell phone.
Wake up man its a cell phone, compare to to other cell phones.
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People on here seem to try to deny it but yes the Play is somewhat sluggish as an android device when compared to such as the SGSII or the sensation xe and some newer games don't run great. Dead on arrival runs slowly, gta 3 has the graphics turned down and still suffers terrible frame rate drops regularly, and fifa 12 has terrible lag.
Having said that, I really wouldn't fancy trying to play those games on a touch screen, which is why I got the play!
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SERIOUSLY, Fifa 12 lags on your Xperia PLAY?
what have you been doing to your phone lately?
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I have to agree with narflynn here. I have hard a few times that FIFA 12 lags terribly but I've played it multiple times and in fact use it to show off my phone and it never lags. In fact all EA games run silky smooth and perfect with NEVER a single problem. Gameloft games on the other hand are hit or miss.
I love emulators and have many on my phone. Nes, snes Genesis n64 neogeo cps1 cps2. This phone is awesome for emulators. If you love emus this is the phone. Rooting and unlocking is really easy. Trust me this phone may not boast top of the line specs, but I don't care. I love this phone.
My favorite games to play are:
Modern Combat 3
Shadowgun
Dead Space
BackStab
Grand Theft Auto 3
Sonic CD
Dungeon Defenders
These are just a few. I have way too many games on my phone to count them and thats not even touching the amount of emulator games.
If you get this phone I would recommend rooting it and removing all the bloatware, then using script manager run the V6 Supercharger (best thing I have done for this phone) and I only overclocked my phone to 1.2ghz just to give it a little bump. And flashing a SDcard cache size limit from 125hb to 4mb really made the phones accessing the SDcard much smoother (but this should be done on all android phones as Androids SD cache size is set at 128k) But this phone plays all those games just fine. I have not had any issues with Grand Theft Auto 3 or Fifa 12. Once I rooted and did those thing this phone just flies. Again... I love this phone. I have a PSP and have not touched it once since getting this phone, its got like 3 inches of dust on it.
Playing Onlive (with a good internet connection) is sweet with the Play's built in controller
swebosdev said:
So now we are comparing a next gen deadicated portable gaming device to a cell phone.
Wake up man its a cell phone, compare to to other cell phones.
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Yeah it is a cell phone. But it is not onle a cell phone it is THE psp phone that everybody dreamed of... It should be compareable to handehelds, not to other phones.
The Hardware of the Xperia Play is graet for gaming but the software sucks in that point. Dont understand me wrong, i love android. But for gaming the Xperia Play should have a gaming mode that opens in fullscreen and cancels all and i mean all backround progresses and runs games from that. It could look like the psp menu. Than it needs much better programmed games, wich are not so cheap and buggy and not made for touchscreen and just get ported. If sony is able to make this things true, the Xperia Play would be a real psp phone and could be much better than a hendheld.
I know i sound kind of angry with my Xperia Play and that is true, right now i hate it a little, and not only becouse its broken. If it stays i am really going to get a 3DS. And maybe sell my play...
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Playing Onlive (with a good internet connection) is sweet with the Play's built in controller
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Agreed. Batman Arkham Asylum, Bioshock....
IE-coRe said:
Yeah it is a cell phone. But it is not onle a cell phone it is THE psp phone that everybody dreamed of... It should be compareable to handehelds, not to other phones.
The Hardware of the Xperia Play is graet for gaming but the software sucks in that point. Dont understand me wrong, i love android. But for gaming the Xperia Play should have a gaming mode that opens in fullscreen and cancels all and i mean all backround progresses and runs games from that. It could look like the psp menu. Than it needs much better programmed games, wich are not so cheap and buggy and not made for touchscreen and just get ported. If sony is able to make this things true, the Xperia Play would be a real psp phone and could be much better than a hendheld.
I know i sound kind of angry with my Xperia Play and that is true, right now i hate it a little, and not only becouse its broken. If it stays i am really going to get a 3DS. And maybe sell my play...
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No, it shouldn't.
Its a Phone, there is a ton of basic functionality that is required to be running all the time.
I don't want to miss calls and texts and calendar alerts because I'm busy smashing up Dr Robotnik in Sonic the Hedgehog. I like that it plays games, but i NEED it to be a phone, as does most everyone else. I also like that I can do those things, and then hop right back into the game I was playing.
Aside from the fact that while the savvy public like us would understand how that mode works, the rest of the public would freak out that playing games blocks the ability for calls and texts to get through.
Where do you get psp phone from? Its a android cell phone with a playstation certified gamepad.
Thats it.
Thats all it ever was and all it ever will be. You hype it up so much just to disappoint yourself.
The xperia play is one of the best android based cell phone on the market. Who ever told you this was a psp should be shot in the face
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No, it shouldn't.
Its a Phone, there is a ton of basic functionality that is required to be running all the time.
I don't want to miss calls and texts and calendar alerts because I'm busy smashing up Dr Robotnik in Sonic the Hedgehog. I like that it plays games, but i NEED it to be a phone, as does most everyone else. I also like that I can do those things, and then hop right back into the game I was playing.
Aside from the fact that while the savvy public like us would understand how that mode works, the rest of the public would freak out that playing games blocks the ability for calls and texts to get through.
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Hmm your are right with that... Maybe it could cancel every backround activity except sms and calls. But enoungh about what could be. Fact is that the play is nice but not perfect.
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Where do you get psp phone from? Its a android cell phone with a playstation certified gamepad.
Thats it.
Thats all it ever was and all it ever will be. You hype it up so much just to disappoint yourself.
The xperia play is one of the best android based cell phone on the market. Who ever told you this was a psp should be shot in the face
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Its kinda a nickname that the play had before it was released. I have the Play now for 4 month now i wouldnt say that i am dissapointed. I does what it promises. I am just speking out what i feel right now.
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I have an iphone 4 now but i dont to play games on it due the small screen. Im looking a 2 scenarios. Keep my iphone and a actual handhelp system like the 3ds or psp vita. Then ive seen bestbuy has the play 4g for free with an upgrade. So im really wondering how are all of satisfied with the play as a gaming device and a phone? I really want the physical controls but does the obsolete hardware hinder it?
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Just buy the 3ds. The 3d effect is very cool and the quality of games will never be matched by cheap android games.
Mario kart 7>any racing game available in the appstore, even real racing.
from tapatalk on xperia play.
Apple has some great games that i would like to play but with a 3.5" screen my fingers will cover half of it. Im just Not a fan of playing games on a small touchscreen. A gaming device with a physical controller and still has all the smarphone functionality. Thats what i want. If rooting and tweaking cures the few flaws of the play i can do that.
As I read around the Internet, I see mixed reviews of the Xperia Play. However, if there is one thing i've learned through forum dwelling, it's that the unhappy are 10 times more likely to speak than the content.
If you don't want to answer any of those questions down below this, at least answer the poll <3
How well does it act as a phone? Are its texting/calling abilities acceptable?
How are the games? Are there emulators that take advantage of the control pad? Are there a reasonable amount of games that use the control pad? How often do you play games on it using the control pad? (I care so much about the control pad because it is the reason i'm considering buying it )
Is it exceptionally far behind recent phones? (Obviously it is behind as it isn't exactly a new phone, but will it still be useable 2-3 years from now?)
How well does Android run on it? Does it run more smoothly on the port of ICS or on its default Gingerbread? Do either of those OS's have a noticeable impact (good or bad) on gaming (compatibility, framerate, etc...)?
Would you buy your Xperia Play again?
Any other comments and experiences you have had are very welcome as well. Thank you for your time! I'm sure this thread will help at least one more person in the future.
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How well does it act as a phone? Are its texting/calling abilities acceptable?
How are the games? Are there emulators that take advantage of the control pad? Are there a reasonable amount of games that use the control pad? How often do you play games on it using the control pad? (I care so much about the control pad because it is the reason i'm considering buying it )
Is it exceptionally far behind recent phones? (Obviously it is behind as it isn't exactly a new phone, but will it still be useable 2-3 years from now?)
How well does Android run on it? Does it run more smoothly on the port of ICS or on its default Gingerbread? Do either of those OS's have a noticeable impact (good or bad) on gaming (compatibility, framerate, etc...)?
Would you buy your Xperia Play again?
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1) The thing I like the best about Xperia Play is that it's not just good at being a game device. While I'm struggling to have any use for my PlayStation Vita, my Xperia Play's able to be an 'everything'.
2) The games are nice! Which is a very big deal for me. What I feared the most is that this would just be another OpenPandora, GP32, Dingoo A320, iControlPad or Gametel Controller; coming with all kinds of high tech, next-level hardware that people are wasting for all these old-ass games. I don't want to buy new technology for old software. I like seeing games that are actually able to take advantage of Xperia Play's full resolution and all it's methods of this-generation controls. What makes Xperia Play a winner to me is that it has all that. It's an excellent emulator, but you can get a good emulator anywhere... don't mean to be blunt, but that's nothing special. What makes Xperia Play special is that it's actually able to play the upper crust of this-generation smartphone games with dual analogs, high-res graphics and conventions of this generation. I'm playing games on it all the time... and shockingly enough, my shiny new PlayStation Vita isn't compromising that.
3) On paper, it seems like it would be far behind current phones because it's a single core. In practice though, it's running software (game and non-game) just as smoothly as the latest and greatest. Adreno 205 isn't very high-ranking on GPU acceleration, but practice always matters more than concept, and in practice I seldom see dips in framerate or hiccups in everyday use... and since it's got game controls, it's got a merit that those powerhouse phones don't. By all means, it should already be obsolete, yet everytime the next big 'benchmark' game comes out, Xperia Play has it's hands all over it. Then again, the same group of oblivious spec-counters talk **** about how every iPhone released is behind the curve at launch... yet single cores still hold their ground.
4) Android runs pretty silky smooth for me. What I will say is that you may not get the smoothest performance with that crappy standard launcher Sony puts on it's phones. With LauncherPro or ssLauncher, you see the Xperia Play being ridiculously smooth (those two launchers in particular also are a huge battery life savers).
5) I'd definitely buy it again. When I initially got this, it was a toss up between this and the Motorola Atrix. Now I see people with GS2's, Atrix, G2x, Atrix 2, GNotes that all fall in love with this single core phone I have (a few have even offered to trade their stronger phone for my weaker one that has game controls). I'll be able to upgrade again soon, and I'll likely just be using that for eBay fodder. As long as my Xperia Play continues being silky smooth and keeps providing a gaming experience that nothing else parallels, I don't see myself caring how strong phones get.
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Well, the things that I don't like about it are cpu, gpu and ram because they are not appropriate for a gaming device.
but will it still be useable 2-3 years from now?)
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As a gaming device, I think it will not be usuable for games because games in the future will require Android 4.1 + more than good hardware like (1GB RAM - Snapdragon S4 CPU ... etc)
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1) The thing I like the best about Xperia Play is that it's not just good at being a game device. While I'm struggling to have any use for my PlayStation Vita, my Xperia Play's able to be an 'everything'.
2) The games are nice! Which is a very big deal for me. What I feared the most is that this would just be another OpenPandora, GP32, Dingoo A320, iControlPad or Gametel Controller; coming with all kinds of high tech, next-level hardware that people are wasting for all these old-ass games. I don't want to buy new technology for old software. I like seeing games that are actually able to take advantage of Xperia Play's full resolution and all it's methods of this-generation controls. What makes Xperia Play a winner to me is that it has all that. It's an excellent emulator, but you can get a good emulator anywhere... don't mean to be blunt, but that's nothing special. What makes Xperia Play special is that it's actually able to play the upper crust of this-generation smartphone games with dual analogs, high-res graphics and conventions of this generation. I'm playing games on it all the time... and shockingly enough, my shiny new PlayStation Vita isn't compromising that.
3) On paper, it seems like it would be far behind current phones because it's a single core. In practice though, it's running software (game and non-game) just as smoothly as the latest and greatest. Adreno 205 isn't very high-ranking on GPU acceleration, but practice always matters more than concept, and in practice I seldom see dips in framerate or hiccups in everyday use... and since it's got game controls, it's got a merit that those powerhouse phones don't.
4) Android runs pretty silky smooth for me. What I will say is that you may not get the smoothest performance with that crappy standard launcher Sony puts on it's phones. With LauncherPro or ssLauncher, you see the Xperia Play being ridiculously smooth (those two launchers in particular also are a huge battery life savers).
5) I'd definitely buy it again. When I initially got this, it was a toss up between this and the Motorola Atrix. Now I see people with GS2's, Atrix, G2x, Atrix 2, GNotes that all fall in love with this single core phone I have (a few have even offered to trade their stronger phone for my weaker one that has game controls). I'll be able to upgrade again soon, and I'll likely just be using that for eBay fodder. As long as my Xperia Play continues being silky smooth and keeps providing a gaming experience that nothing else parallels, I don't see myself caring how strong phones get.
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Thank you so much for your review! You basically covered everything that I have been searching far-and-wide to find. It's good to hear that it can also handle current generation games (for the most part) because it's always nice to have one or two pick-up-and-play mindless games, and the current mobile market excels at that.
I too believe that a device's specs don't mean much unless they are real world, so it's nice to hear from an actual user that it performs well. The main complaints I have read are lag of android and battery life, so to learn that I can improve it (at least a bit) is a very big plus.
Thanks for taking the time to help me out! Where there is one satisfied customer there is bound to be more, but I will stick around to see what others have to say as well.
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Well, the things that I don't like about it are cpu, gpu and ram because they are not appropriate for a gaming device.
As a gaming device, I think it will not be usuable for games because games in the future will require Android 4.1 + more than good hardware like (1GB RAM - Snapdragon S4 CPU ... etc)
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I don't really see it as a replacement for a true gaming device. If I wanted to play polygon-packed, particle effect oozing games, I would spring for a Ps Vita (which I probably will get some day). As long as it can run a reasonable selection of game pad optimized games/emulators, i don't mind the lack of specs.
I don't really see it as a replacement for a true gaming device. If I wanted to play polygon-packed, particle effect oozing games, I would spring for a Ps Vita (which I probably will get some day). As long as it can run a reasonable selection of game pad optimized games/emulators, i don't mind the lack of specs.
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I think you are right
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How well does it act as a phone? Are its texting/calling abilities acceptable?
Excellent. 100% a good PHONE.
How are the games? Are there emulators that take advantage of the control pad? Are there a reasonable amount of games that use the control pad? How often do you play games on it using the control pad? (I care so much about the control pad because it is the reason i'm considering buying it )
Games for Android are great. SO many games are Xperia PLAY optimized. Emulator games, imo, are where it's at. Most emulated games just downright play better with physical controls. I <3 <3 <3 playing my PS1 roms on it.
Is it exceptionally far behind recent phones? (Obviously it is behind as it isn't exactly a new phone, but will it still be useable 2-3 years from now?)
I think so. Yeah it will lag a bit, especially as newer Android versions will require newer hardware, but imo we're safe for another year and a half or two. Possibly more.
How well does Android run on it? Does it run more smoothly on the port of ICS or on its default Gingerbread? Do either of those OS's have a noticeable impact (good or bad) on gaming (compatibility, framerate, etc...)?
For me using a custom rom (TrueAncestor) it's *butter*y smooth. Plays my games excellently.
Would you buy your Xperia Play again?
I most certainly would. Actually, I just did, and I am NOT regretting that desicion AT ALL. I had bought a beat up used one first and it died, but I liked it so much I bought it again.
i'll buy it ,
if one day , xperia play 2 comes , i'll buy that too , for any price
game pad is really really special H/W on phone , all i need is game and game support
I brought my play specifically for gaming as I'm sure so did everyone who has got this phone, I think it is a really good phone for gaming although it does struggle with some larger games like nova 3 but all in all the games seem to run lag less and have yet to have any issues with gaming myself, the phone itself excluding gaming is great it runs smooth, looks nice and its awesome when u show it to ur mates then flip out the controller lol, I wasn't sure about buying this phone at 1st as it does have some bad reviews and with it only having a 1ghz single core processor it didn't seem that revealing, anyway I went ahead and brought it and im yet to see any faults with it in fact after seeing mine my bro sold his iphone4 to buy one and my mate sold his sensation xe to buy one aswel which on paper is a huge downgrade, like I said some large games like nova 3 for example do lag but personally I think thats not because the phone can't hack it but that the game itself is just made crappy but a little lag on some games is worth bearing for the fact that u have a controller. This is the phone for anyone who likes gaming and if u install a custom rom and kernel its even better, I love this phone and won't ever change it unless an Xperia play 2 comes out
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Hi, for me it's the best phone out there not only for gaming cause it can everything what a modern android phone should can. I use it every day as a normal phone and everything is fine and if you are a gamer and retrogame fan like me then there isn't something better.
Of course there a lot of more powerfull phones but as said they're just phones, and yeah i tried to play on others but with touch it's impossible to play a good game!!