[Q] Stock Roms VS CM/AOSP Roms - G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi There,
I want to ask people that have tried several different roms: What are the big differences between Stock roms and CM/AOSP Roms?
Also: What are the downsizes of using CM/AOSP Roms? I head about a worse camera but is that all of it?
Thanks in advance!
Best,
C.

kilador said:
Hi There,
I want to ask people that have tried several different roms: What are the big differences between Stock roms and CM/AOSP Roms?
Also: What are the downsizes of using CM/AOSP Roms? I head about a worse camera but is that all of it?
Thanks in advance!
Best,
C.
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I am finding out that every custom rom that i try, CM or AOSP, has a bluetooth ble bug. They will not see bluetooth low energy devices such as some fitness trackers. Custom roms look much better than stock roms but i am forced to being on stock because of that.

Can someone using non stock roms throw a bit of light over here please?
1. Does FM radio work?
2. Does the camera picture quality drop by a lot?
3. Does the eye recognition feature work?
4. Does the knock knock wake feature work?
5. Does battery life improve or worsen?
6. Does it have a Bluetooth bug such as the poster above mention?
Any feedback on these matters will be very much appreciated
Thanks!

For me, i tired 2 AOSP roms, and went back to stock after a month, THEN i heard that it supported 4k via Snap Camera so i flashed another AOSP Rom, im now back on cloudy 2.5
The let downs for me are...
The Camera sucks so hard - nothing comes close to stock, not even lenovo super camera, the moto port.
Battery sucks, yea it can vary Rom to Rom but for me, battery life was crap, im not (and many others) arent interested in flashing 4-5 different kernels and then having to use Synapse to tweak stuff to get the best out of it.
Laggy, i got lags, even with it set on "performance" and having it set there drained even MORE battery.
Many people are happy on AOSP roms but after nearly a year with my G3, stock is still the best (purely IMO)
Good luck

kilador said:
Can someone using non stock roms throw a bit of light over here please?
1. Does FM radio work?
2. Does the camera picture quality drop by a lot?
3. Does the eye recognition feature work?
4. Does the knock knock wake feature work?
5. Does battery life improve or worsen?
6. Does it have a Bluetooth bug such as the poster above mention?
Any feedback on these matters will be very much appreciated
Thanks!
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1. Yes, with Spirit FM app
2. Yes, especially in low light.
3. Not included in custom roms, can be added by application.
4. Double tap to wake works most of the time. Periodically it stops working and user have to disable and enable it.
5. Well, i've got 0.5%/h in deep sleep, and 6-6.5H in active browsing via LTE. Screenshots attached. RR 5.5.3, pure stock - no custom kernel, sysctl/buildprop/etc tweaks.
6. Never had any BL LE device, can't say.

YaDr said:
1. Yes, with Spirit FM app
2. Yes, especially in low light.
3. Not included in custom roms, can be added by application.
4. Double tap to wake works most of the time. Periodically it stops working and user have to disable and enable it.
5. Well, i've got 0.5%/h in deep sleep, and 6-6.5H in active browsing via LTE. Screenshots attached. RR 5.5.3, pure stock - no custom kernel, sysctl/buildprop/etc tweaks.
6. Never had any BL LE device, can't say.
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Many thanks for your comments, greatly appreciated
Did you implement any tweak to achieve that much sot battery life? Like reducing screen resolution and such. What battery life did you manage to get back with a stock rom? To compare.
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And the camera in good light conditions, does quality really suffer that much?
Thanks again!

kilador said:
Many thanks for your comments, greatly appreciated
Did you implement any tweak to achieve that much sot battery life? Like reducing screen resolution and such. What battery life did you manage to get back with a stock rom? To compare.
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And the camera in good light conditions, does quality really suffer that much?
Thanks again!
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No tweaks, no resolution changing (Besides, it won't change battery life unless you're gaming, 2d performance for FHD and 2K is very close on Adreno 330) and no custom kernel.
This result is consistent - today I lost 23% for 3h of usage, of which 83 minutes are SOT. 83/23*100 = 360,8 minutes of SOT if usage pattern won't change. 6 hours of browsing on LTE while travelling through city (i.e changing cells often and high brightness) is good enough for G3.
On standby, I lose 0.4 - 0.7% per hour, depending on how much data there is to sync.
On stock KK, I almost always got 5.10 - 5.30 h of SOT with same usage pattern. But KK was pretty laggy, so I switched on LL. I tried every D855 5.0 build which lg released (With the exception of 20B/C), and even on latest builds I struggled to get 5h SOT, usually phone ended up dry after 4.30 - 4.40 h.
Camera postprocessing in normal conditions is worse than on stock - pictures are less sharp, example of AOSP photos attached.

YaDr said:
No tweaks, no resolution changing (Besides, it won't change battery life unless you're gaming, 2d performance for FHD and 2K is very close on Adreno 330) and no custom kernel.
This result is consistent - today I lost 23% for 3h of usage, of which 83 minutes are SOT. 83/23*100 = 360,8 minutes of SOT if usage pattern won't change. 6 hours of browsing on LTE while travelling through city (i.e changing cells often and high brightness) is good enough for G3.
On standby, I lose 0.4 - 0.7% per hour, depending on how much data there is to sync.
On stock KK, I almost always got 5.10 - 5.30 h of SOT with same usage pattern. But KK was pretty laggy, so I switched on LL. I tried every D855 5.0 build which lg released (With the exception of 20B/C), and even on latest builds I struggled to get 5h SOT, usually phone ended up dry after 4.30 - 4.40 h.
Camera postprocessing in normal conditions is worse than on stock - pictures are less sharp, example of AOSP photos attached.
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Great post mate thanks
DId you just pretty much flash RR and thats all, wow, impressive SOT !

Vivasanti said:
Great post mate thanks
DId you just pretty much flash RR and thats all, wow, impressive SOT !
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Yes.

Related

Using Blackout ICS

I'm new to using a rooted device and installing custom ROMS, and I love it!
I've loaded the latest Blackout ICS version 3.0.0, and am really impressed by how well it works. I immediately noticed that battery life is better than anything I've used previously, always different versions of Gingerbread. So that's a big improvement straight away. As others have highlighted, it's a bit laggy at times, but I overclocked the CPU and it runs much more smoothly. Even just 1.2 GHZ produced a noticeable improvement, and I'm now on just under 1.5 GHz, which I gather is a safe setting. I was worried about this affecting battery life, but if it has it's barely noticeable. I suppose it only runs at the fastest speed when it needs to.
The only problem with the ROM is the auto-brightness, which jumps up and down even in fixed light conditions. Not sure if the developers pick these threads up, but that is really the only issue I've found.
As the DHD seems to be the only device not to be getting an official port of ICS, I'd definitely recommend giving this ROM a try.
With all these other devices getting updates, is it likely that more fully working ICS ports for the DHD will be on the horizon?
Really? You get better battery? I suspect i get a little less battery time...
Dbugger said:
Really? You get better battery? I suspect i get a little less battery time...
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Yes its noticeably better. Is this just me or have others found the same?
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using xda app-developers app
I must say I'm getting good battery as well.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using xda premium
You should also try AOSPX and Nik Project X. The first one is stock ICS and the second one is ICS with Sense 4.0. I tried both of em and they work flawlessly on my DHD.
Haven't tried Blackout yet because I saw in the thread that there were still quite a few issues to be solved.
Dbugger said:
Really? You get better battery? I suspect i get a little less battery time...
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I was getting excellent battery life as well, but I suspect it might be killing my data connection when the phone is asleep.
Largamelion said:
You should also try AOSPX and Nik Project X. The first one is stock ICS and the second one is ICS with Sense 4.0. I tried both of em and they work flawlessly on my DHD.
Haven't tried Blackout yet because I saw in the thread that there were still quite a few issues to be solved.
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I like the look of Nik Project X, though the final post on the forum raises an issue with not being able to get HSDPA data speed. I'll keep tabs on that forum and maybe give it a try.
Swell6 said:
I like the look of Nik Project X, though the final post on the forum raises an issue with not being able to get HSDPA data speed. I'll keep tabs on that forum and maybe give it a try.
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Hmm, haven't really paid attention to that (I 'm mostly on WIFI). I 'll do a speedtest when I get the chance.
Edit: Did a quick test and I 'm getting 3,6Mb down / 1,6Mb up (inside a server room right now so not the best connection). Seems quite normal for my network (7,2Mb is max speed I can get from my provider). Of course the max HSDPA speed is alot higher but that 's something I cannot test.
Hi,
I've just installed, and recovered my apps, as i've wiped battery calibration i cannot talk about it, but OC is excellent. Even in default frequency the desktop turns without any lags, but as you mentionned, sometime there are some lags (typing on keyboard for instance) but i guess it's linked to the OC profile changing , try in performance instead of on demand, this should solve that.
Regarding the brightness i agree , it seems it change on "i don't know which parameter" from bright to low brightness.. so i've installed Bright day app to set the brightness along the day at low value and i've set on the main desktop the brightness widget to up from system parameters to push it up when i need, then bright day will recover the setting after a while..
Br
Trixo
trixo said:
Hi,
I've just installed, and recovered my apps, as i've wiped battery calibration i cannot talk about it, but OC is excellent. Even in default frequency the desktop turns without any lags, but as you mentionned, sometime there are some lags (typing on keyboard for instance) but i guess it's linked to the OC profile changing , try in performance instead of on demand, this should solve that.
Regarding the brightness i agree , it seems it change on "i don't know which parameter" from bright to low brightness.. so i've installed Bright day app to set the brightness along the day at low value and i've set on the main desktop the brightness widget to up from system parameters to push it up when i need, then bright day will recover the setting after a while..
Br
Trixo
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So after few days of testing here are my feelings :
Takeing account of deamon set to 1,2Ghz, i can still reach 1d and half near 2days without charging , with a light use :
Allways connected to network though HSDPA (as i take train it often check the network to change the connected cell)
Playing 20-30min 3times a days to Pirates of carabean (3D game multiplayer so connecting to the network)
Surfing a bit
no music
no video
With an harder use i reached 1d wake up to sleep:
still same network condition
playing double time at least (1 to 1,5h 3times a days)
Surfing more (1h)
no music an no video
using battery eater apps (windguru) a bit
to resume my feeling on battery is excelent, i've noticed a light improvement on idle battery drop, a bit accelerated over time (due certainly to used app remaining processes.
Let's go now to the issue i've noticed :
-Back tactil button doesn't work on phone screen while it works everywhere else
-Using smoth rosie to supersmooth show a light display trouble when reducing the app drawer windows (doubling the reducing animation)
-Light keyboard trouble doubling the A letter some time (like if the touchscreen has been typed twice when its not the case)
-blackout tweak shortcut from top task bar doesn't linked (need to go through the app drawer to access it)
-Folder creation missing from widget/app shortcut addition screen (or i didn't found it) , i use the moving app on another icon to create it (i don't know if it's the ICS new way of creating folder on desktop)
The plus i've found (don't know if it's an ICS feature) : create a folder in the lower task bar : can jump from 4 shortcut to full app contained in your phone accessible from the locked screen : I loved that !
The overall impression is really great and for an old phone that "doesn't give a good experience of ICS" following HTC, i feel this ROM fullfill my expectation from ICS on my Desire HD !
Many thanks to the Blackout team !
Br
Trixo
Sabsa Prime 4.1 works good too.
GLADS said:
Sabsa Prime 4.1 works good too.
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Haha.. very funny pub..
Btw, testing further again, i've found the sms issue (from my point of view it was linked to transferring sms not to content,) I'll give a try to the 3.1 to chek this out
I confirm the keyboard double "a" in certain text box, particularly in sms typing or web address typing
Lags linked to overclocking
Br
Trixo
Swell6 said:
I'm new to using a rooted device and installing custom ROMS, and I love it!
I've loaded the latest Blackout ICS version 3.0.0, and am really impressed by how well it works. I immediately noticed that battery life is better than anything I've used previously, always different versions of Gingerbread. So that's a big improvement straight away. As others have highlighted, it's a bit laggy at times, but I overclocked the CPU and it runs much more smoothly. Even just 1.2 GHZ produced a noticeable improvement, and I'm now on just under 1.5 GHz, which I gather is a safe setting. I was worried about this affecting battery life, but if it has it's barely noticeable. I suppose it only runs at the fastest speed when it needs to.
The only problem with the ROM is the auto-brightness, which jumps up and down even in fixed light conditions. Not sure if the developers pick these threads up, but that is really the only issue I've found.
As the DHD seems to be the only device not to be getting an official port of ICS, I'd definitely recommend giving this ROM a try.
With all these other devices getting updates, is it likely that more fully working ICS ports for the DHD will be on the horizon?
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For the life of me I cannot find whre to over/underclock or even set govonors
MrAhlefeld said:
For the life of me I cannot find whre to over/underclock or even set govonors
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check for the "deamon" app in your app drawer
Are there any known bugs with mms? I can not send or recieve mms with this Rom..
Imonol said:
Are there any known bugs with mms? I can not send or recieve mms with this Rom..
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Yes. Some can't send at all. Some have data drop in and out while sending and some have no issues. Seems weird to me since the hardware is supposed to be the same for the most part. I think apn and radio combo has the most to do with it.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using xda premium
Love this ROM...
This ROM would be my daily driver if the Wifi hot-spot worked. Has anyone found a work-around or fix? Wifi Tether didn't work either btw. I know it's WIP by the devs but they said it wasn't a major priority for them (Boooooo lol) Fingers crossed for v3.2
As noticed recently in the official thread, i've also noticed the magical battery jumps, i first guessed it was linked to the battery calibration wipe i've done before to flash the Blackout3.0 rom, but i can sometime still see this trouble also.
It happen even phone is in use but every time inbetween 30 and 5 percent of battery left. it goes down to low then readjust it to an higher value without any reason.
The phenomen come back lately less often, but maybe devs can check this out. I'm running on a SFR Desire HD recognized as an incredible S on the 3.0 rom.
BR
Trixo

does installing CM 11 degrades camera performance

i'm currently using the stock jelly bean 4.3 build and i'm not satisfied with it due to poor battery .i need a custom ROM that drastically improves the battery providing a full day of usage with 3g mobile data always on . i hear that installing custom ROM will degrade camera performance since the image processing algorithms get lost ,it it true ? is there any custom ROM that provides best battery life ,good call quality ,decent loud speaker(atleast similar to the stock one) and the same camera performance offered by the stock ROM
That would be great if custom rom had all you need,
But reality is that it doesn't at the moment
Yes camera quality on custom ROM is not as good as stock MIUI, also same with speakers
But you can improve battery life, heating issues, etc with proper selection of custom ROM and KERNEL
STOCK MIUI:-
1)Better Camera
2)LOUD speaker o/p
CUSTOM ROMS+KERNEL:-
1)Better battery
2)Better RAM manegment+Multitasking
3)Less heating
4)Updated Android Experience
BANG that THANKS button
at the end i ended up with the stock ROM jelly bean 4.3 since camera is very important for me . to prevent the overheating and battery issues i rooted the phone and underclocked the cpu to 1.2ghz with minimum frequency as 384mhz. may be this will help the phone to get the best of both worlds
Anyways there is a win
BTW the camera on custom ROM is not trash,its good.Stock camera has some edge over it that's it.
Anyways u should give a try to custom ROM sometime later(For me lollipop is much better than Jellybean) give a try,you can always revert back to stock if not satisfied.Your wish,use the one which gives more satisfaction
BANG that THANKS button
is the cm11 4.4.4 ROM in stable state ? i mean the most less bugs because this phone is my daily driver and i dont need it to fail on any occasions
Yes its stable I used it few months ago,CM12.1 that I'm currently using is also stable
BANG that THANKS button
the word i mean stable is no bugs . i know that still lollipop is under development . my xperia l is getting official cm 12 and there are bugs with it . that's why i'm asking whether the cm11 is super stable with no bugs
vishalaestro said:
the word i mean stable is no bugs . i know that still lollipop is under development . my xperia l is getting official cm 12 and there are bugs with it . that's why i'm asking whether the cm11 is super stable with no bugs
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Unofficial cm11 r26 is the last update for kitkat from the armani group and is considered to be quite stable. I think battery life should be at least ok if not good. CM12.1 r4 has poor battery life at the moment. Miui v50 is supposed to give reasonably good battery life so try it if you haven't yet.
You can install the miui camera on cm11 or 12.1 but you don't have the option to save to sdcard or the HDR options but it works. I don't think the processing algorithms are any different since its the same program.
Yes, Camera in CM11 and CM12 is not as good as Stock. Especially video recording blinks when trying to focus which is a dealbreaker for some.
Well,If we consider that stock camera is 10/10 , CM11 would be 8/10.The same goes for speakers.I don't understand why the music,from youtube or music player is not that loud,and when the phone rings,it's like he ate a powerfull speaker
I used cm11 for a long long time and now I kinda regret that I updated to miui v6.The good thing about cm11 is that you decide what to keep,what to delete,battery is good,ram management is great,phone doesn't heat like crazy.
In the end , we don't have a custom rom or a stock rom which has it all.I remember I was very happy on miui v5 with some thermal config and root acces.thinking to revert back to that,I remember i switched because i got bored.
Marius Cristian said:
Well,If we consider that stock camera is 10/10 , CM11 would be 8/10.The same goes for speakers.I don't understand why the music,from youtube or music player is not that loud,and when the phone rings,it's like he ate a powerfull speaker
I used cm11 for a long long time and now I kinda regret that I updated to miui v6.The good thing about cm11 is that you decide what to keep,what to delete,battery is good,ram management is great,phone doesn't heat like crazy.
In the end , we don't have a custom rom or a stock rom which has it all.I remember I was very happy on miui v5 with some thermal config and root acces.thinking to revert back to that,I remember i switched because i got bored.
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I did a few test camera shots and found that the CM11 camera performs quite similarly to the miui camera. I was hard pressed to tell the difference btwn both apps except through from pixel peeping. Is there a scenario like HDR where the miui camera performs significantly better (8 vs 10) as you say?
Miui v5 has that 1gb zram thing which puts some lag, fast overheating due to 1.6Ghz max clock and has that sms bug which I didn't like. I could reduce the clockspeed after rooting but I still the 2 other issues and miui is too bloated for 1Gb ram.
barrack1 said:
I did a few test camera shots and found that the CM11 camera performs quite similarly to the miui camera. I was hard pressed to tell the difference btwn both apps except through from pixel peeping. Is there a scenario like HDR where the miui camera performs significantly better (8 vs 10) as you say?
Miui v5 has that 1gb zram thing which puts some lag, fast overheating due to 1.6Ghz max clock and has that sms bug which I didn't like. I could reduce the clockspeed after rooting but I still the 2 other issues and miui is too bloated for 1Gb ram.
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First things first,the HDR doesn't even work in CM11.
Then,the ram management is decent,all you have to do is to strip down the rom a little(remove all bloatware,the security thing,don't use sync and don't let all your apps notify you,use notifications just for what you need.Greenify is also a good option after you did all those things.In MIUI V6,when you use the phone a little,like browsing for couple of minutes,or use camera,or facebook and so on,when you click on home button,an message appears " Just a sec " and after 2-3 seconds the launcher appears.Also,multitasking is bad in MIUI v6.I mean you open facebook for example,you click on a link and gets you in browser and then when you come back to facebook it doesn't starts from where you left it,it loads again.In miui v5 at least I could open 3-4 apps and use multitasking properly.
About sms bug,I have no clue what you're saying.
The heating isn't an issue,of course if it's not underclocking the cpu too much and the phone lags.Just flash a better thermal config from xda and there'll be no issues.
In conclusion,this phone will always lack something.It's cheap and that says it all.However,the building quality is great,I've dropped it couple of times,few times even without case and I couldn't see a scratch.The camera is amazing,including the video one.The performance,well,it comes at a cost.Either you reduce performance and keep the cpu cold,or you choose to play great games,but the phone will heat up.Honestly,I used an samsung galaxy s5,not mine,but played with it a little,and it heats up pretty bad too.So...enjoy your redmi 1s.
^pretty much sums it.
Could you please guide me towards a thermal config for stock ? Will i need to flash a kernel or a governor?
Thanks
Marius Cristian said:
First things first,the HDR doesn't even work in CM11.
Then,the ram management is decent,all you have to do is to strip down the rom a little(remove all bloatware,the security thing,don't use sync and don't let all your apps notify you,use notifications just for what you need.Greenify is also a good option after you did all those things.In MIUI V6,when you use the phone a little,like browsing for couple of minutes,or use camera,or facebook and so on,when you click on home button,an message appears " Just a sec " and after 2-3 seconds the launcher appears.Also,multitasking is bad in MIUI v6.I mean you open facebook for example,you click on a link and gets you in browser and then when you come back to facebook it doesn't starts from where you left it,it loads again.In miui v5 at least I could open 3-4 apps and use multitasking properly.
About sms bug,I have no clue what you're saying.
The heating isn't an issue,of course if it's not underclocking the cpu too much and the phone lags.Just flash a better thermal config from xda and there'll be no issues.
In conclusion,this phone will always lack something.It's cheap and that says it all.However,the building quality is great,I've dropped it couple of times,few times even without case and I couldn't see a scratch.The camera is amazing,including the video one.The performance,well,it comes at a cost.Either you reduce performance and keep the cpu cold,or you choose to play great games,but the phone will heat up.Honestly,I used an samsung galaxy s5,not mine,but played with it a little,and it heats up pretty bad too.So...enjoy your redmi 1s.
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If the only difference btwn the miui vs cynogen/google camera quality (8 vs 10) is HDR, then custom rom users aren't doing so bad.
The SMS bug affects numbers where the country code ends in a "0" and some sms's cannot be replied from the messaging app depending on how a phone number is stored in the contacts list (whether it contains the country code or not). Its a big problem and the bug report is still open. According to Xiaomi theres no easy fix.
Having the max cpu clock set to 1.6Ghz means the phone heats up far more quickly. And manufacturers whose phones use the same cpu only clock it to 1.4Ghz. Thats why CM's default speed is set to 1.4Ghz as well.
Enjoy your redmi 1s too.
dashing.sujay said:
^pretty much sums it.
Could you please guide me towards a thermal config for stock ? Will i need to flash a kernel or a governor?
Thanks
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Here's the link.Choose whatever you like.Remember to use it only on stock miui v5.I haven't tested it on miui v6,but it's not necessary,as miui v6 doesn't have this issue.

Z2 Plus overall usability review with custom roms and bugs, battery life, heating etc

Hi Z2 plus users.
After lot of analysis and research, I finally ordered Lenovo Z2 plus today. Got a great deal.
8k INR / approx 125 USD
I have the option of getting Redmi Note 4 as well at approx 150 USD / 10k
I have gone through lot of videos on youtube with different custom rom reviews of Z2 plus, pros, cons etc.
My main concerns are:
- Battery Life
- Heating issue
- Overall usability without digging into custom rom installations and updates very frequently. I will install custom rom but would like to use it as daily driver for few months at least before I look for new updates etc. (Time is the issue - Don't get much of it these days to do all the research and experiments )
With custom roms like AICP, Jaguar - how is the battery life in terms of SOT?
How is the heating issue with custom roms which this phone is infamous for?
I saw a review from Indian tech reviewer on youtube suggesting Jaguar R14 is very stable and good rom for this. But I see some complains and users posting different issues in Jaguar rom thread.
Kindly suggest, if it will be good to go for this phone now (after 1.5 yrs of it's launch)?
Can I expect to use it as daily driver without any significant issues for next 2-3 years with custom roms?
At present which custom rom will you suggest with regards to Battery life and heating issue resolution?
some inputs here will he really helpful
saurav_k said:
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Try aex/paranoid/citrus and see what suits you best!
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Try aex/paranoid/citrus and see what suits you best!
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I do not have the device yet and that is my dilemma whether to accept it or return it.
Does these roms also have overheating issues?
How is the battery life on these?
CitrusCAF 3.5 by miju12 seems very stable(dont flash custom kernel unless you know what you are doing) and have favourable review from the users.
and Lenovo z2 is better choice anyway
looks okay
Got mine today as well. Same deal as the OP (around $120). First thing done was an upgrade to Nougat. Sept 2016 manufacturing and there was still 30% charge left . Device did heat up during upgrade as it was on charge. Haven't observed any major heating since. I have upgraded (or downgraded) from a oneplus 2 so my criteria of heating may be somewhat biased. A 5 inch display does seem smallish though.
Geekbench 4 was 1720, 3999 which is par for SD820. So no throttling etc.
Just wondering what is so broken about stock ROM ? What's not going well with everyone on ZUI ? I did tweak the DPI to my liking - other than that ROM feels pretty much stockish android. I mean I have heard so much hate about stock ROM for this device?
Edited - Ok I am starting to see oddities. 1. Double notifications (any fixes?)
And the usual follow up questions -
- Does the U touch specialization / gestures (swiping etc) work on the custom roms for this device ? Edited - Yes I guess.
- Would unlocking bootloader reset the device ? If yes, might as well do it before setting up apps etc. Edited - Yes it would like any other device.
Just wondering what is so broken about stock ROM ? What's not going well with everyone on ZUI ? I did tweak the DPI to my liking - other than that ROM feels pretty much stockish android. I mean I have heard so much hate about stock ROM for this device?
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I have been using Rooted ZUI (I believe that’s what the stock rom is called) for a few weeks now (Xposed now, but that’s been just a few days). At first I thought I would keep it stock rooted and get all the things I need with Xposed, but the Notification drawer and Lock screen is getting on my nerves. All notifications are ICS Style, i.e. they are not expandable and they have no quick action (except USB connection to PC which lets u choose cam/file mode). Lock screen has this weird image in the middle which just sits there doing nothing. Notifications doesn't get displayed in lockscreen (weirdly I am getting 1 calendar notification there, but nothing else). I tried enabling lockscreen notification for a lot of apps, but it seems to just allow calendar and nothing else.
The U-touch is awesome BTW, but wont let me start Google Assistant voice through it (I like being able to set alarms through it)

Do we have a rom with quick charge and is compatible with HDR+ Google camera?

Here is the dilema:
Currently I am using the latest RR5.8.5. It is the final version of Nougat and will not be updated. I am quite happy with this rom. The only problem is that I can not use the latest HDR+ google camera (always FC). It seems that the AOSPA is the best compatible rom with HDR+ google camera. But as far as I know, there is no quick charge feature in AOSPA. All the Oreo roms are still at the early stage with huge amounts of bugs. I don't want to return to EUI 5.9 (marshmellow) either since it is not officially supported anymore. Do we have a good rom with both QC and HDR+?
Any suggestion will be much appreciated.
Nephelococcygia said:
Here is the dilema:
Currently I am using the latest RR5.8.5. It is the final version of Nougat and will not be updated. I am quite happy with this rom. The only problem is that I can not use the latest HDR+ google camera (always FC). It seems that the AOSPA is the best compatible rom with HDR+ google camera. But as far as I know, there is no quick charge feature in AOSPA. All the Oreo roms are still at the early stage with huge amounts of bugs. I don't want to return to EUI 5.9 (marshmellow) either since it is not officially supported anymore. Do we have a good rom with both QC and HDR+?
Any suggestion will be much appreciated.
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Flash Omni.
gllark said:
Flash Omni.
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Does Omnirom support QC?
Nephelococcygia said:
Does Omnirom support QC?
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Yes
giogio1 said:
Yes
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Bravo! I will try it. I hope HDR+ won't FC
Nephelococcygia said:
Bravo! I will try it. I hope HDR+ won't FC
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but i think Omni will not be updated
giogio1 said:
but i think Omni will not be updated
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Yes, I think all the Nougat roms are not developed anymore. The teams are concentrating on debugging the Oreo roms.
Omni FTW
Do you use Cuoco92 rom?
I do also have fc with omni
Just my take , I had onnia for a while however it was not compatible with all variations of Google camera. Switched to paranoid and got better call column and every single modded Google camera app I have installed has worked. Also quick Charing works great. While charging your led flashes letting you know it's in a wyci change state and when it goes back to normal speed your led.goes solid, which usually happens around 90%
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Flash Omni.
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Quick Charge and Google Camera works on Paranoid 7.3.1 , AS does the IR remote on many of my electronic items., also fingerprint unlocks without issue.
tsongming said:
Quick Charge and Google Camera works on Paranoid 7.3.1 , AS does the IR remote on many of my electronic items., also fingerprint unlocks without issue.
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SOT ?
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SOT ?
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"SOT?"
Can you describe what this means? it's not clear.
Edit: Nevermind are you referring to battery life?
If so, it was better with stock. However, in my opinion the stock rom was too restrictive. For example, I missed alot of notifications while using the stock rom.
Next, I installed Greenify with root using Magisk. : With excessive usage my battery life is at least one full day and with casual usage the battery will last for days.
With Paranoid, quick charge is incredibly fast. In fact, much faster than what stock provided.
tsongming said:
"SOT?"
Can you describe what this means? it's not clear.
Edit: Nevermind are you referring to battery life?
If so, it was better with stock. However, in my opinion the stock rom was too restrictive. For example, I missed alot of notifications while using the stock rom.
Next, I installed Greenify with root using Magisk. : With excessive usage my battery life is at least one full day and with casual usage the battery will last for days.
With Paranoid, quick charge is incredibly fast. In fact, much faster than what stock provided.
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thanks for reply , can u show how long SOT in paranoid and SOT in stock rom ?
Don't forget that we have BlackScreen kernel which works on many different roms. Its Alucard governor is very good to the point I ditched Advanced Governor Tweaks. It had idle drain issues but fixed since a few months ago. I highly recommend it.
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thanks for reply , can u show how long SOT in paranoid and SOT in stock rom ?
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I can but not at the moment. I just woke up and checked my battery that was fully charged 6 hours ago and it's still at 99%.
See screenshot, and I will send another one at a the end of the day.
FYI, I did not save any battery records from when I was using stock, nor did I make any effort to studiously track and graph out usage. My comments are based on my best estimated guess.
In my opinion, current battery life using Paranoid is better than any other phone that I have personally used and I have over 100 apps installed, including substratum.
I also use the phone for some multi-track audio recording, some games, a lot of YouTube and a lot of music listening.
I don't really pay a lot of attention to battery life because it is has been a non issue. Obviously the battery will last much longer if I am just listening to music or just talking on the phone.
After I installed, paranoid I noticed battery life was slightly degradated, so I installed Greenify.
On a typical day of heavy usage, the battery life will last from wake until bedtime: 17-18 hours, and still have 20 to 30 percent left when connecting it to the charger.
Next, I have not timed the quick charge. But I estimate that it will charge from 20% to 90% in approximately 30 minutes. Which in my recollection is much faster than charging using the stock ROM.
At the end of the day, it's totally worth switching from stock to a custom ROM. In my experience, Paranoid is a great option. I haven't tried the Omni ROM.
From what I have read, Paranoid is one of the few Roms in which everything works.
Although paranoid has 4 themes built in. Substratum allows a greater degree of control with theming. Again, battery life is very good and If you don't like the ROM there's many options. Plus it's very easy to just go back to stock.
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4K2K said:
Don't forget that we have BlackScreen kernel which works on many different roms. Its Alucard governor is very good to the point I ditched Advanced Governor Tweaks. It had idle drain issues but fixed since a few months ago. I highly recommend it.
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Thanks, I haven't tried black screen, and actually didn't realize that it included such a wide range of governors. Personally, I do not really need to micromanage my settings and battery usage. But its nice to know that we have such an amazing tool available. for our phones.
Hasancaktar said:
Do you use Cuoco92 rom?
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Is it based on EUI 5.9.023s? I don't want to go back to Marshmellow because I really appreciate the HDR+ google camera. It is amazing!
michielm74 said:
I do also have fc with omni
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Terrible. So the best bet will be AOSPA
Nephelococcygia said:
Is it based on EUI 5.9.023s? I don't want to go back to Marshmellow because I really appreciate the HDR+ google camera. It is amazing!
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for now 23s, soon 26s

XZ1 Compact Fw's: PROs & CONs

Help me to create mini FAQ.
Stock
PROs:
CONs:
AOSP
PROs:
CONs:
crDroid [AlexKarimov]
PROs:
1 - Fast: Very responsive and loads quick. Example: stock used to delay when using google maps at all the wrong times. This ROM is lightning quick and I never miss a turn or exit.
2 - Stable: I've had only one or two random reboots but it's very rare.
3 - Customization: There is a high level of customization in this ROM. A LOT of options. At this point, I can't even tell you what I'm missing.
Bonus: Stock launcher is very nice. I usually upgrade to Nova for one reason or another but this has almost all the same features as Nova.
CONs:
1 - Data speed: I hesitate to put this here because I'm not sure if it's my ROM or incorrect APN settings(I don't remember stock so I've had to experiment). I've played around with different APNs and found one that works really good but data speed still seems a little slower than stock but only on Play Store for some reason.
Pixel Experience
PROs:
CONs:
LineAge OS 15.1
PROs:
CONs:
LineAge OS 16
PROs:
CONs:
I've had crDroid for about 2 months now, here's what I've observed:
crDroid
PROs:
1 - Fast: Very responsive and loads quick. Example: stock used to delay when using google maps at all the wrong times. This ROM is lightning quick and I never miss a turn or exit.
2 - Stable: I've had only one or two random reboots but it's very rare.
3 - Customization: There is a high level of customization in this ROM. A LOT of options. At this point, I can't even tell you what I'm missing.
Bonus: Stock launcher is very nice. I usually upgrade to Nova for one reason or another but this has almost all the same features as Nova.
CONs:
1 - Data speed: I hesitate to put this here because I'm not sure if it's my ROM or incorrect APN settings(I don't remember stock so I've had to experiment). I've played around with different APNs and found one that works really good but data speed still seems a little slower than stock but only on Play Store for some reason.
General Impression: I love this ROM! It has just about everything I want(minus a few tweaks that are in AEX) but any drawbacks I've found are very minimal compared with the benefits.
Thank you for this comparison. I've recently purchased a second xz1c and just loaded AEX on it, so I'll give some impressions in a few weeks on that.
AlexKarimov said:
I've had crDroid for about 2 months now, here's what I've observed:
Thank you for this comparison. I've recently purchased a second xz1c and just loaded AEX on it, so I'll give some impressions in a few weeks on that.
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Thanks for review! Together we can bring up neat comparision of xz1 FW's!
Stock fw
pro:
Good battery life and has ultra stamina mode. Also Sony stock apps and audio tuning if you are into that kind of stuff. With combining firmware bits you can get volte and fingerprint working in US T-mobile.
con:
September 2019 is the last security patch, since then multiple vulnerabilities have been found including bluetooth "Bluefrag" vulnerability.
Lineage OS 17
Overall very clean and snappy rom. It's currently my daily driver.
Pro:
-Android 10.0 and everything that comes with it:
Built in gesture navigation
Re-worked permission management
New launcher/recents menu
-average battery life
-stock camera
-passes safetynet check
-trebuchet launcher with app lock functionality
-very stable, so far I have had no random reboots or anything of the sort.
Con:(not a lot)
-does not have picture preview after picture was taken on back camera in stock cam
-stock cam cannot save to sd card
Thanks for sharing your findings! Would you recommend LOS 16 or 17 over stock fw? How stable is it and how's the battery life? I have stock oreo and don't want to update due to the complaints. I've experienced some lag and restarts lately but I wonder if the long process of unlocking bl and flashing custom fw is worth it.
moist_line said:
Thanks for sharing your findings! Would you recommend LOS 16 or 17 over stock fw? How stable is it and how's the battery life? I have stock oreo and don't want to update due to the complaints. I've experienced some lag and restarts lately but I wonder if the long process of unlocking bl and flashing custom fw is worth it.
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Big thanks also from me to MDomokos for sharing the experience.
I'm also very interested in answers for the questions posted by moist_line.
moist_line said:
Thanks for sharing your findings! Would you recommend LOS 16 or 17 over stock fw? How stable is it and how's the battery life? I have stock oreo and don't want to update due to the complaints. I've experienced some lag and restarts lately but I wonder if the long process of unlocking bl and flashing custom fw is worth it.
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Using LOS 16.0 for 2 weeks with 47.2.A.11.228 stock firmware. Working perfectly and no problems with any app (no GAPPS installed and only using openSource apks such as: Signal, Telegram, K-9, QKSMS, OsmAnd, etc...)
Battery life, better than with stock Android 8.0 ( i never used Android 9 from Sony, just when i updated firmware to reboot and install LineageOS )
Since i'm working from home, is true that my XZ1C uses wifi all the time, but anyways, 3 days of battery is awesome
moist_line said:
Thanks for sharing your findings! Would you recommend LOS 16 or 17 over stock fw? How stable is it and how's the battery life? I have stock oreo and don't want to update due to the complaints. I've experienced some lag and restarts lately but I wonder if the long process of unlocking bl and flashing custom fw is worth it.
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I've been using Lineage OS 17 by modpunk for the last three weeks and it's been very reliable. I have nano Gapps installed and get about 7% of battery used per hour with the screen on, and about 0.4% of battery drained per hour in stand by mode as reported by Franco Kernel Manager. Battery life for me is a bit worse than stock as there is no fine control over battery modes such as with stamina mode. I can get two days battery life with about 5 hours of screen on time, though I limit my charging to between 85%-15% which makes it a bit shorter.
I like the android 10 gestures as it frees up more space on the screen and I also like the new permission management for location. And I can't live without adaway which requires root.
I personally am happy with unlocking the boot loader and there is no significant difference besides when initially turning on the phone it shows a boot loader unblocked message. And the newer security patches are worth it in my opinion.
There is a easy to follow PDF guide that can explains all of the steps in the thread about DRM Key backups. https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz1-compact/development/devonly-exploits-temp-root-to-backup-t3795510
I'll link it here if I find it.
But I wouldn't recommend it if you are planning on selling your phone in the near future.
Edit:
Found the PDF https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78255334&postcount=382
Make sure to read all instructions thoroughly and donate to developers if possible.
Hope this all helped.

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