Received Fire Phone with 3.5.0 Should I Upgrade ?`s - Amazon Fire Phone

Received the FP with 3.5.0 att locked with unlock code from ebay deal today and now trying mess with it and got few questions that I just need to ask before I go any further in the path of no return.
First I`ve been somewhat following each steps here at this Guide to make fire os look normal. Everything is going smoothly and got all the way up to firing up google play but unable to download any apps from it. I`m guessing becuase I have missed installing the vending.apk before opening play store? Now I`m unable to install the vending.apk at all. Is it crucial to follow each install order of google services? Or am I missing something that`s preventing vending.apk install?
I`ve already factory restore the phone to try again but before redoing everything should I even try to upgrade to the most recent 4.6.1 and root at 4.6? Just asking because I`ve read somewhere along the way that upgrading to 4.6 solves some problems with play store. Or is it still best to stay at 3.5 for rooting purposes. I would like to eventually put CM11 in it.
Should I try to unlock the phone first with the included code from ATT before going all the way with rooting and to CM11? Will I be able to enter code with CM11? I just don`t have a nano SIM at the moment and just can`t wait to tinker with the phone. Or should I just stop at root/Google Now Launcher and unlock before trying CM11?
Is safe safestrap like just CWM recovery? Can I Make a backup of the rooted stock Fire OS 3.5 and install CM11 now and revert to stock if I need to?

I'm waiting for mine to come. Ordered from same deal I'm guessing. You can cut your current sim card down to nano if you really want to be adventurous.
How did the prime membership go? Any issues with getting the free year?
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Yeah I`ll be cutting in-laws sim so I`ll wait until I sort the phone out. Prime automatically adds a year after putting your amazon email account when registering the phone, went through without a hitch.
Ok so factory restore didn`t really restore everything. Google now app launcher still on when it booted up. So this will be a fun night. Any suggestions on what should I try next?
Is Safestraponly for 4.6?

I wish I knew. I haven't gotten mine yet so I've just been trying to read and prepare.
Have you unlocked the phone?
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Have you checked this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=60536921
I believe you would need to unlock the phone in order to install this update since its for an unlocked phone. But I could be wrong.
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Not yet need nano sim card to unlock and that`s why I`m being wary on going through all the way tonight. They sent unlock code printed on a sticker with a disclaimer that basically saying once you claim the prime membership you are not able to return it. Found this unlock method for FP, does anyone knows other way of unlocking it without sim card?

I think you need a non att sim card so that it asks for the unlock code. That's going to be my issue. Don't know anyone with a non-att nano sim card
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New to FP...one of the 2500 eBay purchasers
I'm in the same boat. Ordered my FP from eBay with the one year extension of Prime...so it was about $50 for the phone after tax and discounting the Prime membership. So my questions are...
1 - What is the best way to go to get Google apps working as I pretty much use much of the Google ecosystem. Should I sideload the Google stuff, or just root and go to CM11. I want to make sure I have all the LTE bands working and I'm not sure if CM11 changes the modem.
2 - If I stay with Amazon Android do I stay on Version 3 or upgrade to Version 4. Which works best with Google sideloads?
Any clear advice to a new user of FP. In the past I've had HTC and Samsung and always unlocked the bootloader and rooted. There is a lot in the forums I have to read but maybe somebody could encapsulate some advice to those peoples who seemed to have bought the eBay deal. Much thank for guidance from experienced users.

From my understanding, there is root for 4.6.1, and Google stuff seem to work better on 4.6.1. So I'm definitely planning on upgrading when I get the phone.
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Ok found an old TMobile micro sim and just followed this guy and cut into nano and when I turned on the botched half rooted FP it just asked for the unlocked code and the code provided worked.
So this time I downloaded the Google services zipped file in this thread and jumped to his step 2 and when it came to step 2.iii I followed this guy`s instructions. I had to download es file explorer on amzon app store first so I can get to google services files that I had transferred from the comp. And turned off wifi so the auto update download will not finish downloading.
Basically I got google now launcher working fine was able to install the obligatory Facebook app until I updated the Market with Google play store. After that the dreaded "Google Play ervices has stopped" started popping.
I`m going to try to find a fix but if there`s none, it looks like updating to 4.6 would be the best route. Unless someone can give their 2 cents on this matter.

Ok so updated to 4.6 and rooted with kingroot. Play store worked great for few minutes andand found out about this white screen problem.
I`ll try to see how "stable" the cm11 which I doubt ready for daily use if not I`ll just have the inlaws use fire os. The update made it look closer to their old phone and actually not too bad. As long as they have facebook and candy crush they`re happy. Also mayday would actually benefit me in the long run
Update:
Used the apk files in this guide which looked newer versions and it seemed to do the trick this time while rooted with latest kingroot at 4.6. Even after I installed google now launch and google quick search which forced me to update the google services to use which also ended up updating the play store. So far no issues with play store.
Update:
Play store white death screen is back.......!!!!

I think I finally figured the fix for white death screen!!? The problem is ****ing google is auto updating the playstore automatically to a 5.xx version which breaks Playstore. Found the solution in this link. When GP auto update just disable/unistall updates and reinstall the older 4.6 GP or the last 4.8 GP apk version before 5.xx. Then I tried all possible options to block play store from auto updating. I used the Disable Services app method and the terminal emulator that someone suggested in the previous link. So far no white death screen.
Update:
Google managed to get around my solution and updated play store again, mfckers!
Any suggestions on how to block NSA auto updating play store?

I believe you need to use these on 4.6.1 http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-phone/general/google-play-store-4-6-1-version-4-apks-t3098592 I never had an issue with it

phxal said:
I`ll try to see how "stable" the cm11 which I doubt ready for daily use
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Its a very stable rom. I've been using it one week today. It got an update 3 days ago. You will get the "play services stopped working message" but that's happening with stock. Play store has opened every time I try it. Unless you like fire os better I'd try the ROM. I was skeptical too. In fact, I wasn't anticipating using this phone as my daily driver but that's exactly what happened. Just make a backup of stock to be safe.

Finally I got everything figured out. I just flashed the flashable stock 4.6 image from this thread through safestap. And every google services seemed to be working properly now (Maps, Hangouts,Navigation etc.). I just installed nova launcher and the phone feels like regular android phone right now.
I'll stick with the fire os for now as I need the phone to be really stable before handing the phone to the in laws.

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[Q] Paid Apps from Google Play?

I have looked around this site and the entirety of the world wide web and haven't found an answer for this. Maybe I looked two hard and missed the forest for the trees, but I don't know. So, here goes:
I have rooted my Kindle Fire and installed Google Play/Android Market. It works great and I am able to download free apps at will. When ever I try to purchase an app, however, I get the message "Error. An error occurred. Please try again." This goes for new apps purchased directly from the market and for apps which link to the market for purchase (Avengers Live Wallpaper, for example).
I am able to purchase apps using my computer and they download to my Kindle just fine, but that process won't work with the Avengers wallpaper, for example. Does anyone else have this problem or know how to fix it? Thanks.
Just a shot in the dark here...have never seen or heard of this one...
Did you set up a payment method in Google Wallet? If not, just go to your Gmail account on a PC, click More at the top and select Wallet. From there you can manage your payment method and enter a credit card number, etc., or update an expiration date, etc.
If you already did that, about the only thing I can think for you to try is to go into Settings | Apps | Google Play and Clear cache. If that doesn't work, I would go back in and Clear data (and cache if it has something in it again).
At least if you haven't seen it before, there is a good chance I didn't miss something about this problem.
1) My Google Wallet is set up and works fine from my computer. I even tried changing my credit card just to see if that helped; no such luck. Google Wallet is not the problem.
2) I have tried to clear the cache, tried clearing data and cache, and then restarted. Tried again and had the same error. Cleared everything again, tried again; no luck. Did it a third time, including another restart: still have the problem.
Thanks, but any other ideas out there?
Next question...and more shot in the dark stuff...
I take it you have not loaded a custom rom, so you grabbed Google Play (vendor.apk) and the Google Services Framework .apk and side loaded it to your KF. Before I loaded a custom rom, I did the same thing. Which version of the Google Framework did you load? I know that when I did it, I was careful to grab the GingerBread version, since the Amazon Stock KF OS is GB based. If you grabbed the ICS version, perhaps the payment processing is different between the two, but they are close enough that you can download free apps.
Perhaps you used the Kindle Fire Utility, so you may have no clue as to what I am talking about! I don't think KFU did the market install back then, I had to to it manually.
Unfortunately, I cannot remember if I actually bought a Google Android app and downloaded it when I was still stock. I did download paid apps, but they were processed on another device prior to that. If I had tried to pay and download, I might very well have gotten the same error as you.
Shots in the dark are still better than what I've got so far.
You are correct in that I have not installed a custom ROM and that I installed the Google stuff using the Kindle Fire Utility, (and that I have no idea about the differences). I would assume that the software used by the KFU developer was the GB based Google Services Framework (since you said the Fire is based on GB).
What's annoying is that I don't really buy many paid apps, and the few I do, I can buy from my PC. The main thing I want to do is get the unlocked Avengers Live Wallpaper (my 4 and 5-year old boys keep asking why they can't see Capt. America and Iron Man). To get the $.99 unlocked wallpaper, you have to link from the app (no direct paid download), so I can't get around this problem.
I appreciate the help and if you have any more shots in the dark, I'd love to hear them.
You can try to install this zip thru TWRP. This is what I have setup on my modified stock 6.3.1. This is the latest Google Play version.
I tired several more ideas, all to no avail. Thankfully, though, I reset my Kindle and started over and now it works.
Don't know what was wrong, but grateful for the help.

[Q] Google Wallet Problems?

Hi guys,I searched the forums but cant find a a post retaing to the problem im having so I hope this is in the right area. I just rooted my S3 last night had no problems. I installed google wallet following the instructions that are in these forums,I followed them to a T cleared my caches,flashed the 2 files (the apk,and nfc,lib fix) and changed my prop files. Everything installed perfectly,I could add my credit cards and even when I log into google wallet acount online I can see I have a device connected to my account. My problem is when I go to use my pay pass it wont work,I tried it with my phone unlock on the homescreen,I tried it with the google wallet app open. Nothing! I tried 5 different stores today thinking maybe a pay pass terminal was broken but no of them responded. I know my NFC still works because I can still use my tectiles cards. Am I missing something? Or need to flash another file I missed? Any help would be great thanks.
Im on ATT running stock rom with clockworkmod.
You most likely didn't miss anything. It just doesn't work with some of the ota updates..
Do more research but If you can confirm that.. Flash to an older version of 4.0.4..
I'm stock and haven't ran any ota updates and it runs fine.
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Google Play not work on a Zeki

I recently bought a Zeki TBD753B. It was cheap thats why I bought it. It has Jelly Bean on it.
I have read through every possible post I could. I found out I had to root the tablet and install google play.
I have followed a lot of the posts I have seen. I was able to root it, but for some reason Google Play just will not work properly. I can get it installed but everytime I run the app it crashes on me after 5 to 10 seconds. I get "unfortunately Google Play has stopped working". I have even used Link2SD to change it from a user app to a system app. At this point it won't even load and i get the stopped working message right away. I can only assume that I am missing some kind of file. I tried the newest versions of Play and even an older version down to 3.5.19. I have tried clearing the data and the catche. I am at a loss.
The only reason It is such a big deal to me is that a majority of the apps I want to download seem to be only on Play.
forget this post
I finally got it figured out.
It had something to do with the version of Play I was using when I installed it.
mpernack said:
I finally got it figured out.
It had something to do with the version of Play I was using when I installed it.
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Which version did you get to work and do you have a link to it?

Android Pay on a Rooted G3

Can't believe there aren't 10 threads about this for the G3 already. I've learned what everyone has who's rooted and trying to install Android Pay. No deal. And this really sucks, because I was looking forward to this.
I tried to install it from Google Play, but there's no install button. It says device is not compatible. So, I followed advice I've found on line. Installed Root cloak, cloaked Busybox and Wallet, and I disabled Superuser. Still no install button.
Next, I downloaded the latest Google Play Services and Android Pay APK's and installed them. Now when I try to open Android Pay, I get the error, "Android Pay is not Available". I'm not running xposed, BTW. I have an ls990 on Candy5.
I expected to run into problems loading my cards that are already saved on Wallet or when I go to use it, but I didn't count on not being able to install and open it. Has anyone with a rooted G3 been able to? If so, how?
I just unchecked "Enable Superuser" in SuperSU Pro, and Pay installed fine after that. Then I just re-enabled Superuser.
That's one of the the things I did, but it doesn't work. hmmm....
I've tried everything. Nothing works.
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Disable SU, Root Cloak, some Device hider thing... Nothing works.
i have tried but not work
i have tried but not work!
Nothing I've read has helped. Most rooted users can't load cards. I can't even download the app from Google Play, and the apk installs but won't open up. Frustrating!
It updated automatically for me. But I can't load a card either now. This is really frustrating because use wallet everyday to make purchases.... WTF Google! I hope someone can fix this and soon. I've tried every work around so far
Rooted users on stock ROMs have had various degrees of success with Pay. Those of us with AOSP ROMs are almost universally getting nowhere.
Bramton1 said:
Rooted users on stock ROMs have had various degrees of success with Pay. Those of us with AOSP ROMs are almost universally getting nowhere.
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When I get a chance, I'll restore an old nandroid of Barepop and see how it goes. Here and on G+, it seems I've seen people on AOSP at least get to the point where they're adding cards. This is the first time I recall seeing a line drawn between stock & AOSP. Worth a shot. Thanks!
Can't get this to work, stock or skydragon

Google Play Store on SM-N9300 (Chinese version)

Is there a way to install the Google Play Store on a Chinese Note 7? Or some way to download the apps i've purchased from Google Play Store? I've tried going to the the Play Store site but my phone's not recognized since i can't add my Google account to the phone...
I read on a Chinese forum that people suggested loading the stock Hong Kong firmware for the Note 7 to get Google Play working and that it'd work fine on the Chinese model (and wouldn't break knox). Is this safe to do?
(and for reference, this is the page i was referring to: http://bbs.ngacn.cc/read.php?tid=9875562&pid=193800403&to=1)
I'm just speaking from experience on my China model of s6edge, flashing the HK firmware on that phone was definitely ok, I had no problems with the phone since going on the HK firmware. I haven't looked too deeply into the note 7 but you'll have to make sure the hardware is exactly the same, as well as the partition table of the two versions or you'll get an Odin fail.
Wait you cant have Google Play Store on a Chinese Note 7?
NIKKOTUASON said:
Wait you cant have Google Play Store on a Chinese Note 7?
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Nope, there's no Google anything by default on the Chinese market phones, some sort of falling out between Google and China. You'll need to flash the Google framework yourself.
NIKKOTUASON said:
Wait you cant have Google Play Store on a Chinese Note 7?
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Yeah Chinese Android phones don't have Google Apps or anything on them because the Chinese government won't let them.
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tom0927 said:
Nope, there's no Google anything by default on the Chinese market phones, some sort of falling out between Google and China. You'll need to flash the Google framework yourself.
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acheney1990 said:
Yeah Chinese Android phones don't have Google Apps or anything on them because the Chinese government won't let them.
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Ouch! Thanks for this little info. Is it illegal or not ideal for one to have Google softwares on their phones there? Hmm I wonder if this will affect travels to China?
NIKKOTUASON said:
Ouch! Thanks for this little info. Is it illegal or not ideal for one to have Google softwares on their phones there? Hmm I wonder if this will affect travels to China?
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It used to be that all Google apps won't work in China, even gmail. But I think they loosened up the policy recently.
Thanks for the info, i'll try flashing it on there this evening. And a couple years back Google services were hit or miss, lately everything is blocked. Sites like this also have trouble loading because they use files hosted at googleapis.com (such as jquery), which are also blocked and a lot more annoying. So i've gotta use a VPN to view the site properly. It's not illegal, just inconvenient. My previous phone was a Chinese Vivo phone and i could install a package from the Vivo app store that installed the Google stuff for me (and use a VPN to access the Google Play Store). The Galaxy App Store is basically empty and doesn't have anything like that. I've tried installing the Google apps individually but it's still not working.
The Chinese and Hong Kong models are both "SM-N9300", i'm pretty sure the hardware is the same (and i know they also use the Snapdragon processor), is there any way i can check these things for sure?
chickndude said:
The Chinese and Hong Kong models are both "SM-N9300", i'm pretty sure the hardware is the same (and i know they also use the Snapdragon processor), is there any way i can check these things for sure?
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Trial and error? The only thing I did was read up on the chinese forums for other people's success or failure stories. Once I saw numerous reports that they were successful, I felt more confident to do the same on my phone. Having an understanding of Odin and emergency restore also helps.
I just tried and my 电信 card doesn't work anymore. It's got Google Play though. Now i'm not sure which is better (assuming i can get the card to work), having the phone loaded with Google's stuff which doesn't work without a VPN or not having any of my purchased apps or easily download/update them but being able to actually use the phone... I might just switch back and wait for another method to pop up to enable Google Play on Chinese phones.
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I just tried and my 电信 card doesn't work anymore. It's got Google Play though. Now i'm not sure which is better (assuming i can get the card to work), having the phone loaded with Google's stuff which doesn't work without a VPN or not having any of my purchased apps or easily download/update them but being able to actually use the phone... I might just switch back and wait for another method to pop up to enable Google Play on Chinese phones.
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Both voice and data doesn't work? or just data?
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Both voice and data doesn't work? or just data?
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Neither work, i can't make phone calls or use data. I've got another card with a different company (China Unicom or China Mobile, i can never remember which) but it's too large to fit in the simcard slot, i'll see about getting it cut tomorrow and testing that.
Alternatively, i stumbled across this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-7/development/recovery-official-twrp-galaxy-note-7-t3458413
I might just try using that to root it and then installing something like Open GApps.
luck
Sorry, i don't understand what you're asking. Why would i want what? I just want to be able to access the apps i've purchased through the Play Store on my old phones with my new phone. The apps aren't even available to purchase in the app stores in China and Chinese app stores generally only keep Chinese apps (like QQ, WeChat, Taobao, Alipay, etc.) up to date. I could just find a free way to get them (easy enough in China), but it makes updating more of a pain.
Anyway, gonna revert it back tonight to the original firmware and try installing TWRP with Open GApps.
EDIT: i've flashed it tons of times now and just finished flashing the Chinese firmware back on (again). I tried installing Open GApps but it just crashed the phone. I rooted the phone but it refused to install any APKs for some reason, not sure what exactly i've done to cause that. I just reflashed it again and am going through setup now, hopefully it'll be fixed. I'm not sure if it's got something to do with TWRP complaining about being unable to mount /data. It's too late to check into that tonight though.
EDIT2: Everything's working fine now on the stock firmware again, gonna try rooting it again tomorrow and see if i can manually install the Google Play Store.
chickndude said:
Sorry, i don't understand what you're asking. Why would i want what? I just want to be able to access the apps i've purchased through the Play Store on my old phones with my new phone. The apps aren't even available to purchase in the app stores in China and Chinese app stores generally only keep Chinese apps (like QQ, WeChat, Taobao, Alipay, etc.) up to date. I could just find a free way to get them (easy enough in China), but it makes updating more of a pain.
Anyway, gonna revert it back tonight to the original firmware and try installing TWRP with Open GApps.
EDIT: i've flashed it tons of times now and just finished flashing the Chinese firmware back on (again). I tried installing Open GApps but it just crashed the phone. I rooted the phone but it refused to install any APKs for some reason, not sure what exactly i've done to cause that. I just reflashed it again and am going through setup now, hopefully it'll be fixed. I'm not sure if it's got something to do with TWRP complaining about being unable to mount /data. It's too late to check into that tonight though.
EDIT2: Everything's working fine now on the stock firmware again, gonna try rooting it again tomorrow and see if i can manually install the Google Play Store.
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I'm having the same issue. I've tried manually downloading the play store, services framework, play services and google login apks. Tried installing manually through sideloading. Tried copying to /system/app. In all cases both the play services and google services frameworks crash constantly. The play store itself is a white screen, with VPN enabled (from China).
If this method isn't going to work, where can I find an HK firmware version?
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Psytric said:
I'm having the same issue. I've tried manually downloading the play store, services framework, play services and google login apks. Tried installing manually through sideloading. Tried copying to /system/app. In all cases both the play services and google services frameworks crash constantly. The play store itself is a white screen, with VPN enabled (from China).
If this method isn't going to work, where can I find an HK firmware version?
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Just to add, I have rooted with SU.
If you have a working Google Play (outside china), a VPN while within China should allow you to update the apps. Please note, Oculus Store is also not accessible.
Boy Bisaya said:
If you have a working Google Play (outside china), a VPN while within China should allow you to update the apps. Please note, Oculus Store is also not accessible.
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Yes, however I cannot install any of the google apps on this device. All attempts, including using google installer apks, manual installs, flashing Gapps, ,etc, all result in crashing apps. It almost seems aggressive.
My latest attempt to flash Gapps results in "Unfortunately the setup wizard has stopped" endlessly, essentially bricking the phone. I cannot get to any screens unless using the multitasking icon, and even then homescreen etc are inaccessible.
Try installing the APKPure app. Its pretty much just like the playstore (For free apps). And lets you update etc. And it doesnt require root.
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Yes, however I cannot install any of the google apps on this device. All attempts, including using google installer apks, manual installs, flashing Gapps, ,etc, all result in crashing apps. It almost seems aggressive.
My latest attempt to flash Gapps results in "Unfortunately the setup wizard has stopped" endlessly, essentially bricking the phone. I cannot get to any screens unless using the multitasking icon, and even then homescreen etc are inaccessible.
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That's the same issue i had with Gapps. I could press the menu button to bring up a list of open apps and use those, but going to the main homescreen just repeatedly prompted me with the setup wizard stopping dialog.
Google apps works with the Hong Kong version (comes preinstalled) so you should be fine with that. I think i flashed N9300ZHU1APGI, but i think that's the oldest version. The newest seems to be N9300ZHU2BPI5. If it has ZHU in the middle, that's for Hong Kong. ZCU is for China (TGY is the region code for Hong Kong, if you see that). The issue i had with that is that then everything is Google Apps and thus blocked in China, maps in WeChat use Google Maps instead of Baidu Maps for example. If you don't care about that, then i suggest trying to flash a Hong Kong firmware. It worked for me.
EDIT: I also forgot to mention that at first i couldn't use my SIM card, but later i'm not sure what i did, i think i booted into Recovery mode or something, but after that it worked. I'm not sure what it did.

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