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Question for those with high free RAM

So I have been trying loads of ways to have a high amount of free RAM (for the Play). I've read comments from people who seem to mostly have 200MB+ free. But looking at my list of running services, I notice that Facebook uses a huge amount of RAM, ranging from 40MB - 60MB. So my question is, to those people who consistently have high amounts of RAM, do you have Facebook uninstalled?
I am on Stock ROM, and would like to keep it that way, I have rooted and removed all the bloatware I possibly could. But my free RAM hasn't really changed much. Ranging from 160MB - 220MB. (I only seem to get 220MB after exiting games like FIFA 12 and Dead Trigger)
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TehJoeker said:
So I have been trying loads of ways to have a high amount of free RAM (for the Play). I've read comments from people who seem to mostly have 200MB+ free. But looking at my list of running services, I notice that Facebook uses a huge amount of RAM, ranging from 40MB - 60MB. So my question is, to those people who consistently have high amounts of RAM, do you have Facebook uninstalled?
I am on Stock ROM, and would like to keep it that way, I have rooted and removed all the bloatware I possibly could. But my free RAM hasn't really changed much. Ranging from 160MB - 220MB. (I only seem to get 220MB after exiting games like FIFA 12 and Dead Trigger)
Sent from my Xperia Play. U jelly?
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do you have Facebook uninstalled?
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Yes.
I use the browser to access my facebook account.

Try using Fast for Facebook. A lightweight fb app with less permissions and speedier than the main app plus holo themed. Its still in beta so some features are missing.
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I have Facebook installed but I usually have 210mb free.Every time I'm done with Facebook I go to Running Services and close it that way. If I keep it running I usually get 180mb. I'd delete it and use browser but I need the notifications, plus I like how it uses the profile pics for my contacts.
It's a hassle but oh well.

Yep, removed it cuz facebook doesn't control my life

[Q] [Q} Acro S low RAM problem

Hi there,
I have a question to Xperia Acro S users: How much total RAM can you see and how much free RAM on your phones?
I have my acro s since few days and I'm a little bit disappointed. In normal use I find it a bit laggy and slow. I tried it on 6.1.A.2.45, 6.1.A.2.55 and XTXperience_9. All the roms the same problem. I installed "Android System Info" and it showed total RAM 634Mb and free RAM 196Mb.
Both my previous xperia p and my tablet ainol novo 7 flame are showing total RAM 809 Mb and more free RAM. Each of devices has 1GB RAM according to official specs.
Why there is such a difference? Anybody knows? Is there any solution?
I installed additionally "Quick system info PRO" but the same results.

Answered many times before and saying this again
From the Total 1GB RAM, around 200 MB is being used the by Adreno GPU. Some are kept reserved for the OS and rest amount of RAM we get for the apps and general use.
I am using Firmware 0.50 and honestly i don't feel that much of lag actually. If you are on Stock ROM then try this two apps from Google Play.
RAM Manager Pro and Pimp My ROM. These are really great tweaking software.
And it's not about how much free RAM you have, it's about whether the RAM optimization in your device is good or not.I have only 130 MB free RAM but my device runs quite good.

People are far too ram obsessed. U could have 80mb free and you'd never notice unless you looked. My advice. Just stop looking and use your phone
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Try disable some apps...Just go to Settings > Apps > All
Disable the apps that you think you dont use...
List of apps that ive disabled :
- Ant Radio Service
- Email
- Event Stream Engine
- Exchange Service
- FBiX CalendarSync
- FBiX Music Likes
- FM Radio
- Friends Music
- Gmail
- Google Bookmark Sync
- Google Calendar Sync
- Google Contacts Sync
- Google Lyrics Extension
- Google Search
- Google+
- Maps
- NeoReader
- News & Weather
- Picasa Extension
- Street View
- Talk
- Talkback
- Timescape
- TV Launcher
- Twitter
- Twitter Extension
- Voice Search
- Weather Widgets
- Youtube Karaoke Extension
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Depends on the apps that you use/dont use...Which apps that is out of your concern, just disable it but dont disable system related apps

auni said:
Answered many times before and saying this again
From the Total 1GB RAM, around 200 MB is being used the by Adreno GPU. Some are kept reserved for the OS and rest amount of RAM we get for the apps and general use.
I am using Firmware 0.50 and honestly i don't feel that much of lag actually. If you are on Stock ROM then try this two apps from Google Play.
RAM Manager Pro and Pimp My ROM. These are really great tweaking software.
And it's not about how much free RAM you have, it's about whether the RAM optimization in your device is good or not.I have only 130 MB free RAM but my device runs quite good.
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Thank you for your reply, specially because you've written about it before. I've searched xda for this topic, but didn't find answer.
I know some of RAM is used by GPU, and some reserved for system, but I wrote the question because my xperia P and ainol (both 1GB RAM) are showing 809 total and over 400 free RAM. I wouldn't care about it, I wouldn't even have checked it if I wouldn't feel my acro s very laggy comparing to my mentioned devices. Both are worse in specs than acro s.
I'm running 0.55 stock ROM right now, I'll try the apps you suggested. I bought my phone a week ago, and hoped to be more satisfied than with xperia p (no micro sd, no watherproof, smaller screen, and so on). Now I think xperia p works better for a daily use ;/

wajahebat said:
Try disable some apps...Just go to Settings > Apps > All
Disable the apps that you think you dont use...
List of apps that ive disabled :
Depends on the apps that you use/dont use...Which apps that is out of your concern, just disable it but dont disable system related apps
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Thanks for the list. It's a good idea to disable some of not used apps.
I still can send back my phone to shop (according to polish law when I buy via internet I can return it within 10 days), but I want to convince myself, I don't have to

rintelen said:
Thank you for your reply, specially because you've written about it before. I've searched xda for this topic, but didn't find answer.
I know some of RAM is used by GPU, and some reserved for system, but I wrote the question because my xperia P and ainol (both 1GB RAM) are showing 809 total and over 400 free RAM. I wouldn't care about it, I wouldn't even have checked it if I wouldn't feel my acro s very laggy comparing to my mentioned devices. Both are worse in specs than acro s.
I'm running 0.55 stock ROM right now, I'll try the apps you suggested. I bought my phone a week ago, and hoped to be more satisfied than with xperia p (no micro sd, no watherproof, smaller screen, and so on). Now I think xperia p works better for a daily use ;/
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No problem. Sometimes some apps like Facebook or Google play consume high amount of memory like 80-90 MB while opened for long time. So try force close these once u have done using those apps. If the RAM properly distributed then even if you have 70-80 MB free memory in total it shouldn't be lag at all.
And you can find a detail info about Pimp My ROM here-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2113295

[Q] Stock RAM management as compared to CM

I was a long time stock user. I feel the stock UI is nice and everything works just great. But the Stock ROM eats up RAM like crazy. I just don't get it. Currently I'm using OpenSEMC. I'm aware AOSP roms are debloated and lighter than stock ROMs but even debloating a stock ROM, multitasking is simply below average on stock ROM. I usually remove all Sony apps(Album, movies, DLNA, Timescape, Small apps, widgets, etc.) along with the usual(Facebook, Twitter, etc.). So I have basically the same apps installed on my Stock ROM and CM ROM. But RAM is so much better handled in CM.
For example, RAM usage on stock ROMS by apps:
Contacts/Dialer - uses around 45-50MB of RAM
Hangouts - always around 50MB
Whatsapp - around 30MB of RAM
Swiftkey - around 45MB
on OpenSEMC, these same apps use
Contacts/Dialer - uses around 20MB of RAM
Hangouts - always around 35MB
Whatsapp - around 20MB of RAM
Swiftkey - around 35MB
I can switch between 5 apps in CM and none of them will get reloaded, at least untill I open a heavy app like Chrome or Google+. Dialer, Whatsapp and Hangouts(my 3 most used apps) are ALWAYS residing in memory. They open instantly and almost never get killed off.
On stock ROM, swtiching between these 3 apps and still the third one will get killed off very soon. I just don't get it. It's like the ROM is giving priority to apps and services I barely ever use, instead of giving it to apps I frequently use.
They are the same apps; why do they consume more RAM on stock(OK apart from the Contacts app)? Why do they get killed off faster? Does anyone have an explanation?

Stock has better ram management but aosp and cm10 have better ram consumption
Aka
Cm10 settings - 34mb
Stock sony - 53mb
aosp - 47mb
Stock is better for ram heavy but it self used alot ofbram cm10/aosp is better for gaming for cpu intensive, not so good for ram but its eficient ram consumption makes overal for better
Apps being killed is a lack of ram, dont use dodgey or poorly designed apps, also avoid intrusive advertising
Also avoid ram cleaners
You could also fix by changing your oom values to be less agressing for killing apps

Didn't feel any different changes Enable/Disable System/User Apps!

Does any body have Advance experience of debloating Apps in A705F/Ds! Any one can point me to help !
Cause'
I do not much see any different in 1 week after Enable /Disable system/user apps in my device(8/128) gb operating with CCSWE App Manager Pro.
Still High 3gb Ram Usage per system vs apps in system start up!
I've just daily usage as (Fb, Messenger,What' App, Chrome, IDM, PUBg,Asphalt-9). Hell_No. !!
#No_Root #Smoothness_Ui_Experience #

RAM is there to be used! No need to free it, what's the point of it? The more apps are loaded in RAM, the faster they start. You have 6 GB of RAM, and only 3 GB in use, that is good
This is an interesting article about how memory works on Android: https://www.androidtipsandhacks.com...ndroid-and-why-you-shouldnt-most-of-the-time/
Bloatware or unwanted software can be removed, disabled or, when rooted, removed. But that has little to do with RAM. Disabling apps won't appear in app drawer, and removing them will free (a little) storage space.

Yeah,As a result of Disabling total 156/336 apps is almost same result as while it' not . Still got laggy in while scolling in Fb, Asphalt 9 . For 8gb Ram devices ' is it alittle way too much?Nothing Different !
CCSWE App manager is too strong but it can't help me out in no root state.

Nexus Axe said:
Yeah,As a result of Disabling total 156/336 apps is almost same result as while it' not . Still got laggy in while scolling in Fb, Asphalt 9 . For 8gb Ram devices ' is it alittle way too much?Nothing Different !
CCSWE App manager is too strong but it can't help me out in no root state.
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Disable animations in developers settings.
Reduce motion in settings
Install greenify and use it in non root mode.
We have sd675 and it will have its limits.
As for Facebook lag, disable video autoplay and clear cache

I followed the Galaxy S10/9 guides on disabling via ADB to get rid of things like Bixby and other Samsung bloatware. Never had an issue with RAM but I like the idea of fewer icons in the app drawer, fewer notifications and fewer apps with potential to run in the background or eat up my data allowance for no reason. I have to say that this method along with using AdGuard DNS has pretty much done away with my usual desire to root.

RAM Leak

Hi,
i guess Stock Pie has a Memory Leak and Garbage collector doesnt work.
I background restricted some apps in Settings but all of them still works on background. I cant see them on the Task Manager but i can see the Ram usage on AIDA64 app.
What i did:
- i set background restriction to these apps. (64 app restricted)
- i select app restrict behavior to Frequent. (for all of them)
- Task manager is empty.
- Cant see these leaked apps even on Android 9's built in Ram usage feature.
- i tryed kill apps when leave feature on the developer options. (These apps garbage still stays on the Ram)
- i even set background app limit 4 (Somehow developer options closed it self and everything i set reverted back to stock when i restart my phone)
But apps still eats the Ram from the background. I know because i can see Ram details on the AIDA64 app.
Phone starts with ~1600'ish mb available Ram. Available Ram decreases when i open-close these background restricted apps. (Hey! I am restricting apps because i dont want them working on the background. Like a Google Translator, Mi Remote, Hd Wallpapers app etc. i restricted all but these apps still works.) If my phone's Ram decrease everything starts slowing down. I am seeing it and i can feel it. After 5 or 10 minute later Ram usage jumps ~2000 mb. Some pieces of background restricted apps still stays in the Ram and i cant avoid from it on Stock Pie and these pieces slowing down my phone's performance. I am not using 26 apps!! Maybe 4 or 5 apps i am frequently using. I dont want unused apps garbage on Ram.
Huawei's EMUI has a built-in feature to avoid auto-start apps. Some custom roms has a Wake-Lock blocker. But i dont have anything on Stock Pie.
I just dont want these apps garbage on my phone's Ram. Because of these reasons i can clearly say Mi A2 Lite's Stock Pie rom has bad garbage collector. Dont know Xiaomi modified it or not. Probably thats why Stock Pie roms consumes more battery than Stock Oreo.
I am not the man who believe 'unused Ram is a waste'.
I just want most important system apps on the Ram and other almost everything shouldnt occupy a space on the Ram. This motto is the key reason of performance for Budget phones on my perspective.
Rom details:
Locked - Stock Android 9 - v10.16.0 (November 2019)
What i am asking is:
- Which Roms has built-in feature to avoid from this?
- Which Roms has a best Garbage collector?
- Which Rom fits to my requirements?
Thanks.

perfect_ said:
I background restricted some apps in Settings but all of them still works on background. I cant see them on the Task Manager but i can see the Ram usage on AIDA64 app.
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You are fundamentally misunderstaning how task management works.
Restricting stops apps from using the CPU (and thus, the battery).
Android will leave unused apps in RAM for faster launching later. Some "AI" decides which of these to keep when more RAM is needed.
If it offends you to see these apps in a low-level task manager you can kill them. Heaps of task manager apps can do this automatically. You need something like greenify if you want them to stay dead.

a1291762 said:
You are fundamentally misunderstaning how task management works.
Restricting stops apps from using the CPU (and thus, the battery).
Android will leave unused apps in RAM for faster launching later. Some "AI" decides which of these to keep when more RAM is needed.
If it offends you to see these apps in a low-level task manager you can kill them. Heaps of task manager apps can do this automatically. You need something like greenify if you want them to stay dead.
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I did not misunderstand anything. You didnt understand what i mean exactly.
Why Hd Backgrounds app or Mi Remote app should stay on the Ram even i dont use them? I am using them once a week or so. Thats why i dont need faster launch. Because i am not using them? Clear?Youre talking about app restart power consumption. Thats the point. I am not using them and i am not starting them in a single charge. Even if i want to restart these (as i said this thing happens once a week) apps restart power consumption consumes incomparably less energy than phone restart power consumption. I dont want to use my phone’s Ram with junks.
Do you prefer trashy Ram with bunch of junks? I dont prefer it. I cant clean these apps Ram garbage until restart my phone. The restart consumes a lot of energy and when my phones Ram become trashy i should restart all system to clean them.
Restart has benefits;
- More performance
- Clean Ram
- Better Battery life until Ram become trashy
What i am saying is why i cant use these benefits without restart. Think about all these power consumption when we restart our phone.
Its all about garbage collection and this thing doesnt work on Android Pie. I tryed Greenify gived it all what app wants still nothing changed. Ram still gets trashy and this causes; slowdowns, hiccups, more battery consumption,.. etc. Even my phone’s processor and battery doesnt like garbage on Ram.
I hope Huawei’s HarmonyOS will work better than Google’s trashy Ram management.

perfect_ said:
Why Hd Backgrounds app or Mi Remote app should stay on the Ram even i dont use them?
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Because there is no benefit to removing them from your RAM.
perfect_ said:
I dont want to use my phone’s Ram with junks.
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It's not junk. If you want tasks killed, get a task killer. If you want to prevent apps from starting, get a hibernation app.
perfect_ said:
I hope Huawei’s HarmonyOS will work better than Google’s trashy Ram management.
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The Chinese OEMS are notorious for evicting programs from RAM and preventing them from running in the background, fundamentally breaking the android API contract in the process. If you think that's better then by all means, go use one of those ROMs.
I for one got the A2 Lite instead of the Redmi 6 Pro precisely to avoid MIUI and its task management policies.

a1291762 said:
Because there is no benefit to removing them from your RAM.
It's not junk. If you want tasks killed, get a task killer. If you want to prevent apps from starting, get a hibernation app.
The Chinese OEMS are notorious for evicting programs from RAM and preventing them from running in the background, fundamentally breaking the android API contract in the process. If you think that's better then by all means, go use one of those ROMs.
I for one got the A2 Lite instead of the Redmi 6 Pro precisely to avoid MIUI and its task management policies.
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There is no point to talk with you. You dont even know what junk it is. Do not write to my threads!