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Are you willing to lose the guarantee, by official HTC metod, in order to have S-off or root rights?
Doesn't HTC method just make you loose software warranty ?
I mean, I think hardware problems are still covered after that.
see that on htcdev website :
It is our responsibility to caution you that not all claims resulting or caused by or from the unlocking of the bootloader may be covered under warranty.
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I need confirmation on that though as I'm not sure
i think physical defects or damages due to unlocking the bootloader, then overclocking and frying the cpu or motherboard will not be covered..
however... if the screen malfunctions, it would be reasonable to uphold the warranty unless there are reasons to believe it is again due to end-users unlocking the bootloader. (ie, maybe the guy unlock the bootloader, overclocked the phone and the heat caused some circuit to melt due to excess heat and this caused the screen to stop working?)
many scenarios, just giving some examples of what i think would mean non-coverage by warranty..
Physical damage can be attributed to unlocked bootloader. Example, heating has destroyed your lcd pannel. Warrenty uncovered. In our case this is not the truth but, to get back your phone what can u do if not pay?!?
Maybe htc is too much honest or maybe not... anyway they have a strong weapon to not recognize it.
from http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader/faq
Why is my security still on (S-On) after I have unlocked my bootloader?
Your device is shipped with Security on (S-ON) to protect your system software configuration (such as the bootloader, radio, boot, recovery, system and others). After you have unlocked the bootloader, however, you will have lifted the restrictions on boot, recovery and system. This means you can customize boot, recovery and system images on your phone as you desire. You can easily see that you have successfully unlocked the bootloader by looking at the top of the screen when entering the bootloader screen. Security is left on to protect things like the radio, and SIM lock.
so, device still be s-on? no way to change radio and hboot? O_O
I will do it with an unofficial tool.
Hopefully the revolutionary tool will be there soon!
I don't want to wait..
torxx said:
I will do it with an unofficial tool.
Hopefully the revolutionary tool will be there soon!
I don't want to wait..
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What's the benefit to doing it this way please?
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If you want to send your phone to HTC, you can bring it back to stock before.
But if you did it with htcdev, HTC can see that you unlocked your Bootloader, so it will be difficult to get your phone repaired.- HTC just won't do anything but they will never know if you used an unoffical tool.
torxx said:
If you want to send your phone to HTC, you can bring it back to stock before.
But if you did it with htcdev, HTC can see that you unlocked your Bootloader, so it will be difficult to get your phone repaired.- HTC just won't do anything but they will never know if you used an unoffical tool.
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Sound good to me, I always like the option to go back to stock for these purposes so I'll wait too
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You can go back to stock after using htcdev, too.
But your Bootloader will be signed of htc, so they know that you did it.
Yea you're right!Hope S-off will come then I don't need to unlock in HTC bootloader~
Has anyone asked the Revolutionary team if the exploit they used before works with the HTC One series and if they will support the device? I assume they will because they tend to follow flagship phones but you never know. Here's hoping we won't have to wait too long.
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I'm sure that they are working on it..
As far as I heard you still have warranty even though you unlocked your bootloader.
Yes of course but if for example your processor is damaged, you will surely not have any warranty on this.
Us vivid users went through heaven and hell to try and unlock the bootloader/achieve s off. Only after some strategic calls to HTC did we even get the official bootloader unlock, we never achieved it.unofficially either. We still don't even have s off so no radio flashing and a more round about way for flashing kernels and recoveries. I really hope the One X will have an unlock bootloader option. HTC wasn't even planning on giving the option until six months after the release. It didn't matter though, our development and most the community was already killed off by the time we got bootloader unlock. Hopefully HTC learned a lesson or the people working on unofficial s off/bootloader unlock have some tricks up their sleeve...
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I was just chatting with HTC and mentioned I had mine bootloader unlocked. He said it voided my warranty as that was stated on HTCDev, but I said HTCDev only says its void certain parts off the warranty.
But in e-mail I got from HTC they state, you do not get warranty when you are running an custom rom, so I guess we need put it back to stock and lock the bootloader.
Then there should be no problem with warranty.
DexterMorganNL said:
I was just chatting with HTC and mentioned I had mine bootloader unlocked. He said it voided my warranty as that was stated on HTCDev, but I said HTCDev only says its void certain parts off the warranty.
But in e-mail I got from HTC they state, you do not get warranty when you are running an custom rom, so I guess we need put it back to stock and lock the bootloader.
Then there should be no problem with warranty.
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Yes, there still is a problem. Never again will your hboot read "locked", it will only show up as "relocked", so you still aren't quite out of the water.
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Yes that's true, but I believe you can just use your warranty. The guys in chat who say you voided it don't know what they talking about.
If you really send it in for warranty then they should just fix it. But best we can do is relock it.
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Yes that's true, but I believe you can just use your warranty. The guys in chat who say you voided it don't know what they talking about.
If you really send it in for warranty then they should just fix it. But best we can do is relock it.
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Actually, a stock-looking rooted ROM will do the trick. I've heard enumerable amounts of people saying the people at HTC didn't even look to see if the device was rooted or bootloader unlocked. I really don't think they are that picky.
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Actually, a stock-looking rooted ROM will do the trick. I've heard enumerable amounts of people saying the people at HTC didn't even look to see if the device was rooted or bootloader unlocked. I really don't think they are that picky.
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I think so to. But atleast I would load the original non rooted stock rom on it. I only get the bootloader from Evo 3D to get show relocked and under it still says s-off, but I guess that's from revolutionary and I don't know how to get rid off that, but I will just leave it like this.
I have heard enough stories that peoples HTC got fixed with an unlocked bootloader and some even with an custom rom. And how big is the chance someone really ever going need use the warranty?
I think its quite small. But I'm not going unlock the HTC One X i think as it should be fast enough even without an custom rom.
I don't want HTC to know it and we should have an unlock method that is fully reversible, at HTC Desire HD we had that, with on click you had it back s-on.
Hi everyone,
I have a One X with S-OFF .
How can I reset Relocked flag.
I hate to see "Relocked" on bootloader.
You cannot get rid of it, any way you never see it. How often do you enter recovery.
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at least twice a day
Does not anybody know?
can i replace the "mmcblk0p4" block with "locked" mmcblk0p4 block from another One x ? What happens if I try..
Is Relocked flag in this block?
Save yourself a brick and live with relocked......
thanks for your reply
maybe, i save myself a brick but don't live with relocked......:crying:
because, bluetooth does not work. I need to send the phone for service. but it was out of warranty.
i think.. maybe fix it and re-covered by warranty.
I guess I'm wrong.
The only s-off phones that successfully got the bootloader back to locked were bricked to the max.
my HOX is already S-OFF.
Once the RUU is installed, but it did not resolve.
There can be phones like the ONE XL or ONE m7
Why can not the ONE X.
I know the processor is different. but still must be a way
Please read carefully. The phones that had s-off and wanted to lock the bootloader got BRICKED ! a ruu does not lock the bootloader.
It's because of the tegra crap !.
ok. I understood.
Yeah sowwy
I am back to S-ON and I will send phone to service.
and when it comes back to sell it.
and an even more stay from tegra.
ceturan said:
I am back to S-ON and I will send phone to service.
and when it comes back to sell it.
and an even more stay from tegra.
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Your choice
Relocked Flaf remove
Hello Guys! I would like to overwrite the flag relocked to locked on my HTC. My H.One no longer has any trace of root, boot recovery is the original factory and the current state of HTC's S-ON. Everything perfect! Original RUU factory, no bug, it's all right. My only fear is not guaranteed to be valid, for the simple fact that the bootloader be "relocked". How can I override this? Without changing the S-On to S-Off?
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Hello Guys! I would like to overwrite the flag relocked to locked on my HTC. My H.One no longer has any trace of root, boot recovery is the original factory and the current state of HTC's S-ON. Everything perfect! Original RUU factory, no bug, it's all right. My only fear is not guaranteed to be valid, for the simple fact that the bootloader be "relocked". How can I override this? Without changing the S-On to S-Off?
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No way and please don't ask anymore for it...for such things we need s-off so as you don't have it you can lock it so please don't ask anymore lol
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hi,
i have to return my phone guarantee because the speaker and jack input doesnt work.
i have already unroot device, flash stock recovery, (i was all the time s-on), flash stock rom and trying to lock bootloader but i cant make it LOCKED (it's RELOCKED). i was looking for any "how to" but im blind ...
can anyone help with making my bootloader LOCKED ?
pangapz said:
hi,
i have to return my phone guarantee because the speaker and jack input doesnt work.
i have already unroot device, flash stock recovery, (i was all the time s-on), flash stock rom and trying to lock bootloader but i cant make it LOCKED (it's RELOCKED). i was looking for any "how to" but im blind ...
can anyone help with making my bootloader LOCKED ?
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are you s off?
no, im sON
Only way to put it back totally stock is to be S-off.
Magnum_Enforcer said:
Only way to put it back totally stock is to be S-off.
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yeah, i dont even think about paying 25$ to s-off...
and i have one more problem: i got "Software status : Modified", i want it Official (Original), do i need s-off to make it ?
i was searching some threads and i found that flashing RUU can solve this problem but i can find RUU from my carrier (Plus, Poland)
Just a thought... 25 dollars to s-off could save you getting charged for your repair if they see you're "relocked" and deny your warranty. ?
Darth said:
Just a thought... 25 dollars to s-off could save you getting charged for your repair if they see you're "relocked" and deny your warranty.
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i know but its a "mechanical" issue not the software so they should reapir it even bootloader is unlocked ;P but i want be sure they'll do it without any problems
is possible to make Software Status : Official from Modified ?
(S-ON)
Is 25$ s-off way , can be use multiply on my device ?
You'll need S-OFF to completely return to stock with no tampering signs.... But, if they don't send you back your same device , you would need to purchase Sunshine again unfortunately. Or stay s-on.
Sunshine license is for one device only.
If they send same unit back, yes, it will work again.
But switching back to s-on is really not necessary when you send it in. I've sent mine in with s-off and many others have without issue. But that's your call. ?
Okay, so I'm about to send my phone back in to HTC but I have s-off on it. I relocked it and it says that the software status is official. But I don't know how to get s-on. I can't find anything anywhere. Please help if you can
boot it into download mode and type: fastboot oem writesecureflag 3
Make sure, you have all original firmware and no more custom stuff on it =)
If you are not able to get S-On again, I don't think it matters to HTC. They'll take the phone and fix it before the send it out refurbished.
I sent my M7 back for the camera repair s-off but otherwise stock, and they did and said nothing about it.
As a a general rule, going back to s-on is a bad idea for many reasons, especially if you have made modifications to your phone (and even if you think you're back to bone stock). Going s-off allows you to make changes that would not be allowed under s-on, and if you forget something and go back to s-on, you can brick your phone or lock it into an unstable configuration with no way to fix it. I've seen many people do it.
S-off should be viewed as a one-way trip unless you've got a clear reason to go back.
Hello,
I ve got new M8 few day ago, and want to root it, I know that unlocking bootloader MIGHT void warranty depending on carrier, but Ive seen something about "relocking" it while S-Off - not "re-locked" sign but actually "locked". So there is actually no traces of unlocking/rooting.
Is that possible? And if, is that possible for "un-voiding" warranty?
"It depends"
It depends on whether your warranty is through the carrier, or HTC. And it may even depend on what region/country, etc.
Yes, you can make the IMEI say LOCKED. And if that is what they are checking, there will be no trace of it being bootloader unlocked.
But also remember that HTC has a record of you unlocking the bootloader via HTCDev.com (linked to your device's IMEI) and they can check that as well.
Carriers probably won't go that length. HTC may or may not. I'd say its "probably" okay (HTC will honor warranty) to have bootloader LOCKED. But its not a sure thing, for the reason stated above.
Are you sure you have a warranty to begin with? The phone came out over 2-1/2 years ago. I'd be surprised if they were still selling this as "new" with a valid warranty, and its not refurbished, second hand, etc.
redpoint73 said:
"It depends"
It depends on whether your warranty is through the carrier, or HTC. And it may even depend on what region/country, etc.
Yes, you can make the IMEI say LOCKED. And if that is what they are checking, there will be no trace of it being bootloader unlocked.
But also remember that HTC has a record of you unlocking the bootloader via HTCDev.com (linked to your device's IMEI) and they can check that as well.
Carriers probably won't go that length. HTC may or may not. I'd say its "probably" okay (HTC will honor warranty) to have bootloader LOCKED. But its not a sure thing, for the reason stated above.
Are you sure you have a warranty to begin with? The phone came out over 2-1/2 years ago. I'd be surprised if they were still selling this as "new" with a valid warranty, and its not refurbished, second hand, etc.
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Well, I don't have it through carrier nor HTC, just e-shop, and I hope it is new, seems like new (got last one) So, theoretically, I can unlock bootloader + root, and when I need to do warranty repair just to "lock" it same as unlocking it, or for "locked" do I always need S-Off? And also,how do I get that S-off?
Sharp852 said:
So, theoretically, I can unlock bootloader + root, and when I need to do warranty repair just to "lock" it same as unlocking it, or for "locked" do I always need S-Off?
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To make it say "LOCKED" you need s-off. Instruction to do so are here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708571
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And also,how do I get that S-off?
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Sunshine app ($25): http://theroot.ninja/
And sunshine is the only way (if you are going to ask). No other working method currently.
redpoint73 said:
To make it say "LOCKED" you need s-off. Instruction to do so are here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708571
Sunshine app ($25): http://theroot.ninja/
And yes (if you are going to ask), sunshine is the only way. No other working method currently.
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1. What is difference between "locked" and "re-locked", isn't that technically the same?
2. one "license" in Sunshine is for 1 device ("unlimited" S-On/Off locks/unlocks) of 1 S-Off unlock?
Sharp852 said:
1. What is difference between "locked" and "re-locked", isn't that technically the same?
2. one "license" in Sunshine is for 1 device ("unlimited" S-On/Off locks/unlocks) of 1 S-Off unlock?
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1) RELOCKED by definition means you previously unlocked the bootloader, then relocked it. It will actually say RELOCKED on the bootloader screen. This is not what you want, if you want HTC to think the phone has never been bootloader unlocked. The main reason for making it RELOCKED, is to run RUU or signed firmware (will not flash if bootloader is unlocked, unless you have s-off). You can make it RELOCKED while s-on, with the command: fastboot oem lock
LOCKED is the condition you want, if you want to make the bootloader look like you never unlocked it. S-off is required to make it LOCKED; using the guide I linked in my past post. You can basically think of this as a hack.
2) The license is for the device. From what I understand, you should be able to use the app to s-off, unlock the bootloader as much as you want; even if its been relocked or made s-on again.
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1) RELOCKED by definition means you previously unlocked the bootloader, then relocked it. It will actually say RELOCKED on the bootloader screen. This is not what you want, if you want HTC to think the phone has never been bootloader unlocked. The main reason for making it RELOCKED, is to run RUU or signed firmware (will not flash if bootloader is unlocked, unless you have s-off). You can make it RELOCKED while s-on, with the command: fastboot oem lock
LOCKED is the condition you want, if you want to make the bootloader look like you never unlocked it. S-off is required to make it LOCKED; using the guide I linked in my past post. You can basically think of this as a hack.
2) The license is for the device. From what I understand, you should be able to use the app to s-off, unlock the bootloader as much as you want; even if its been relocked or made s-on again.
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Okay,so far I understand, last thing is, while I am rooted, do I have some limitations? Ive heard something about Snapchat, etc....
Sharp852 said:
while I am rooted, do I have some limitations? Ive heard something about Snapchat, etc....
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I don't use Snapchat, so I have no idea on that. Apps may look for root, on an app-specific basis. For instance, Pokémon Go won't run on rooted devices (and don't think methods to "hide" root work in this case) to prevent players from cheating.
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I don't use Snapchat, so I have no idea on that. Apps may look for root, on an app-specific basis. For instance, Pokémon Go won't run on rooted devices (and don't think methods to "hide" root work in this case) to prevent players from cheating.
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And is there any workarounds?
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And is there any workarounds?
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For Pokémon Go, no. I haven't seen any workaround, except to unroot. But are you asking about Pokémon, in particular? If you are asking about apps in general (which look for root), and whether you can hide root or not; its going to vary on an app by app basis, and I can't really answer that.
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For Pokémon Go, no. I haven't seen any workaround, except to unroot. But are you asking about Pokémon, in particular? If you are asking about apps in general (which look for root), and whether you can hide root or not; its going to vary on an app by app basis, and I can't really answer that.
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Well, i dont play PoGo, i am looking more for Snapchat and bank app, but bank app, i must try that on myself i think
Can u tell most popular ones which wint work with root?
Also, how tk unroot? As superuser app i want SuperSU by Chainfire, that one have full unroot i think, will that work?
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Sharp852 said:
Can u tell most popular ones which wint work with root?
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No, I have no idea. Why don't you Google or XDA search the apps you use, instead of asking questions that can't be answered?
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Also, how tk unroot? As superuser app i want SuperSU by Chainfire, that one have full unroot i think, will that work?
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Unroot with SuperSU will still show the system as "modified".
Easy way to unroot, is make a TWRP backup before you root. Then you can just restore that backup, to "unroot" (you are restoring the ROM that was never rooted in the first place).