Hi.
I have owned my SM-T700 for about a year now and its a beautiful tablet! But after updating my firmware to 5.0.2, i have had a problem that really messes up my time with the tablet.
My tablet has slow charging. Like extremely slow. After the update, it usually took around 9 hours to charge completely when at around 30% of battery. Now when I charge it, It only charges around 5% per hour!
I used the app called Amperes to measure my charging rate and it was at 750mA but then dropped to 30mA. I tried resolving the issue by switching to 4.4.2 but I cannot find the XAC version of it unfortunately. Also,
I am not using the samsung charger that came with the device, I am using the samsung charger for my broken s3 but it says that they take in the same amount of mA. I also tried with my cousins tab s charger to no avail.
Thanks! I would be grateful for any help!
Are you using original or hi-quality cables with a real 2.0 amp charger?
I've a Tab S 10.5 LTE updated to Lollipop from the first day I bought it, so I'm not sure if the charging speed differs from KitKat.
When using the original 2.0 amp charger and cable I've noticed that the charge is slower while I'm activelly using the tablet, but that means about 12% hour rate.
If I try with another Samsung charger rated at 0.7 amp it can recharge the tablet slowly and only when it's idle, or just slow down the battery discharge if I'm activelly using the tablet.
I consider this normal, as the tablet can easily surpass 1 amp discharge rate when the display, cpu, radios are all busy.
To get full charge rate of 1800mah , I normally see 1500mah/1600mah you need to use the original Samsung 5.3v 2amp charger and original cable as a lot of third-party charger will only charge slowly as the Tab S cannot recognize the charger is powerful enough, so it only uses a slow charge so not to damage the charger, even with the original charger after the battery reaches 80% fast charge stops and it is normal for the charger to use lower and lower ma as it reaches 100%
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So I just ordered this charger and it charged my phone from 4% to %100 percent in exactly 3 hours!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0051ZJA64/ref=oh_o00_s00_i00_details
Wow, what a great improvement over stock which takes 6+ hours. This makes me believe, that even though the stock output is rated at 1000ma and this charger's output is only rated 700ma that this charges works correctly!
If you have a 1800mah battery and you charge it at a rate of .7A, it should take it exactly 2.57 hours to charge, (1800/700). With stock it should take less, because 1800/1000 = 1.8 hours, but it takes 6+ hours to fully charge! Something is f'ed up with the stock charger or phone's software...
Yeah. About that. I just got my E4GT yesterday and noticed it does charge extra slow compared to my O.G. Epic.
My wife stayed with hers, maybe I will try charging my phone on hers. I wonder if that would make a difference...
Android Amateur said:
Yeah. About that. I just got my E4GT yesterday and noticed it does charge extra slow compared to my O.G. Epic.
My wife stayed with hers, maybe I will try charging my phone on hers. I wonder if that would make a difference...
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At first my charging was extremely slow but now it'll charge from 2 to 100 in under three hours
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I use the Palm charger from my TouchPad. Will go from dead to fully charged in about an hour and a half.
What's you TouchPad charger's output in mah? I think I might have to splice into a spare USB cable and check how much current is actually used by phone when on stock charger...pretty sure it is nowhere close to 1000mah.
2000mah is the output from the TP charger.
According to BatteryMonitorWidget, it estimates avg mA charging at 270mA using the stock charger that came with this particular phone.
I have my original charger from my Evo 4g and have noticed that it charges my phone a lot faster then the stock one that came with the phone. :-( weird
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sfhub said:
According to BatteryMonitorWidget, it estimates avg mA charging at 270mA using the stock charger that came with this particular phone.
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That sounds about right! I'll see if I can test this with my AMP meter tonight and tell you all for sure on stock vs new samsung charger that I've got.
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2000mah is the output from the TP charger.
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Yeah, at 2000mah it should charge in less than one hour...I would say your actual charge current to be around 1200mah...
i would be careful with these chargers.
i have dealt with a lot of Li-Po's in the past and there was a formula to how fast you should charge them.
i imagine it is the same deal with Li-On.
charging outside such formula could kill the life of your battery or worse.
Seems like i must have gotten lucky as a ton of people are having problems with their phone or chargers.
I just charged my battery from 0 to 100% off the stock charger in 2 and a half hours and i also havent gotten any of the dodgy input problems using the phone while charging.
I went back and took a longer look at the battery history when charging. When starting the charge at 65% it starts off around 828mA, then 540mA, then 360mA, so it looks like (as expected) the phone knows how much current to pull to charge the battery safely and it adjusts based on how full the battery is. Not saying it does this for the charger included with your phone, but that is the behavior for the charger included with this phone.
These are all estimates provided by Battery Monitor Widget because there is no real-time mA current meter in this phone (according to the author)
Ordered one of these. Stock charger takes a lifetime to charge the phone.
My GF got Nexus S 4G and it's stock charger also takes 6+ hours to charge, so there's something wrong with the chargers I guess...
The pins on this charger must me different than the stock charger. Just because the stock charger is rated up to 1Ah doesn't meant the phone or batteries circuitry allows that much output. The resistance and length of the USB pins on the cable are what determines the output of the charger. Simply using a different USB cable with the stock charger will get you faster charge times.
Using a 2Ah charger will get you nowhere, the circuitry doesn't allow that strong of a current. Just a bit of an FYI. Save your money and save your phone, use a different USB cable.
Also, how is the charge time holding up? I doubt you're getting a saturated charge with that charger.
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i would be careful with these chargers.
i have dealt with a lot of Li-Po's in the past and there was a formula to how fast you should charge them.
i imagine it is the same deal with Li-On.
charging outside such formula could kill the life of your battery or worse.
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Ive dealt with 1,2, and 3 cell lipos ranging from 150mah to 5000mah, and every one of them either say to be (or ive been told its recommended to do so) charged at 1C. so a 500mah battery should be charged at .5A, 1000mah at 1A, 5000mah at 5A, etc...
my lipo charger displays a bunch of info as the battery charges and it definitely drops the current as the battery gets closer to being fully charged. if its the same with li-on then I would imagine that .18A should be the most you would charge this battery, but Id rather it take a long time because unless things have changed recently, doesnt the slower you charge the battery prolong its life cycle as well as extend how long it lasts each charge? I only charge mine at night when I am sleeping so who cares if it takes longer than an hour. if I get into an emergency situation I have the cig lighter charger and in the worst case I even have one of those crank flashlights I can use to charge the phone in the event my car battery shorted out or something...
I just got a t-mobile version of the S4 and I'm loving it, but I noticed it is very very slow to charge.
Aside from light to medium usage i didn't touch it much between last night and today. I had it plugged in and charging via USB, but it maybe charged about 40-45% in 6+ hours. My old phone (LG G2X) never took this long to charge.
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This was using the Stock T-mobile Rom
I have since rooted and installed CM10 nightly on the phone, It appears to suffer the same issue
Between 9:27 to 10:00 it went from 67% to %74, My LG went from %39 -%56 in about 20 minutes. By those quick number it will take 7 hours to charge the S4 while only 3 to fully charge the g2x
Is this normal? is there anything i can do to fix/test or alleviate this?
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I had it plugged in and charging via USB,
Is this normal? is there anything i can do to fix/test or alleviate this?
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The question for you is the source? If you plugged it into your compy, it will take forever as standard compy USB ports (USB 2.0) provide only about 500 mA. The stock S4 charger is 2 Amps.
The fix, plug the phone into the wall using your stock charger. If it is still slow, it is probably your battery. Good luck.
Make sure to use the charger that it came with. Ever since I started using the stock charger my battery charges fast. Also it could be your plug so test it with another just in case.
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Yup it was the charger, I have chargers pretty much where ever i go so i just used those. With the stock one it works great but i ran into another issue. I plugged it in and it was taking a really long time to charge with the stock charger, something like 3% in 30 minutes. I had to unplug and plug in the cable again and it charged normally.
Is this something I should worry about?
It could be possible that the cable was not properly seated in the phone, or the charger end was not properly seated in the wall cube. I wouldn't lose sleep over it unless it happens often. Could be a phone problem, but sounds like a one off to me.
Yea my lady like to use my charger with her HTC phone because it "charges faster". The S4 stock charger has the highest amp rating and provides juice at the highest rate to any device. :good:
icewolf293 said:
I just got a t-mobile version of the S4 and I'm loving it, but I noticed it is very very slow to charge.
Aside from light to medium usage i didn't touch it much between last night and today. I had it plugged in and charging via USB, but it maybe charged about 40-45% in 6+ hours. My old phone (LG G2X) never took this long to charge.
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This was using the Stock T-mobile Rom
I have since rooted and installed CM10 nightly on the phone, It appears to suffer the same issue
Between 9:27 to 10:00 it went from 67% to %74, My LG went from %39 -%56 in about 20 minutes. By those quick number it will take 7 hours to charge the S4 while only 3 to fully charge the g2x
Is this normal? is there anything i can do to fix/test or alleviate this?
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There are a few factors here.....
1. The charger itself. The original Samsung is a 2A charger. If you use a different one (most are only 1A) it will take twice as long to charge.
2. The USB Cable. Believe it or not, not all cables are the same. With the standard charger and cable you will be able to charge @ 1900mA. Less then 2 hours to fully charge a completely dead battery. But.... plugging some USB cables into the standard charger will limit the charge down to just 600mA.... taking 3x_ longer to charge.
3. The other is the kernel. If you're using a newer custom kernel Samsung has limited to a max of 1200mA with the screen on & full 1900mA with the screen off.
Lastly, you can download an app on the playstore called Galaxy Charging Current. This will show you the charging rate should you want to test your setup.
dannyben said:
There are a few factors here.....
2. The USB Cable. Believe it or not, not all cables are the same. With the standard charger and cable you will be able to charge @ 1900mA. Less then 2 hours to fully charge a completely dead battery. But.... plugging some USB cables into the standard charger will limit the charge down to just 600mA.... taking 3x_ longer to charge..
Lastly, you can download an app on the playstore called Galaxy Charging Current. This will show you the charging rate should you want to test your setup.
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This man speaks the truth. I use CurrentWidget and set to manual update. Whenever I'm testing cables/chargers, I plug in a known good cable (charges at 1900) to see what the charger is putting out. I do the same with a known good charger (2A - iPad and S4) and test the cables
I'd like to know how long does your tablet take to charge fully.
I've noticed something interesting on mine through very unscientific observation. If I use the provided cable and charger, it charges normally. If I use my Nexus 10 charger, which is IDENTICAL (Samsung 5V, 2000 mAh), it takes forever to top off the battery. Then again, my Nexus 10 also took forever to charge. Maybe those batteries are just too big to charge through microUSB? It charges my Nexus 5 just fine.
Takes mine about hour or so atleast on stock charger. When I use my dads charger it takes forever to charge. I think different chargers have different amounts of power to charge a device correctly and safely.
Mine normally takes 2-4 hours to charge depending on what's running and I leave it on usually with wifi. But you should stick to only Samsung manufactured charges cause it still may be different.
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rodrigorajao said:
I'd like to know how long does your tablet take to charge fully.
I've noticed something interesting on mine through very unscientific observation. If I use the provided cable and charger, it charges normally. If I use my Nexus 10 charger, which is IDENTICAL (Samsung 5V, 2000 mAh), it takes forever to top off the battery. Then again, my Nexus 10 also took forever to charge. Maybe those batteries are just too big to charge through microUSB? It charges my Nexus 5 just fine.
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Yep there are many different factors with chargers. I know the samsung cable is also shield so when used charges at a faster rate. There are apps you can get that tell you what amps you are charging at. The best combo has always been an official Samsung 2amp charger with official cable. Using a 1amp unofficial one charged 1/4 of the rate.
I'm curious if anyone has been using Qi charging with their TabPro? Anyone's comments would be appreciated.
I used a micro-usb Qi coil receiver between my TabPro 8.4 and the Poetic case for a few weeks without issues.
But then something happened to cause the Qi charging pad to overheat. I ended up having to have the TabPro 8.4 replaced by BestBuy as the TabPro would no longer charge at all, even trying different micro-usb cables and 2.1 amp power adaptors. What was even stranger, was the battery continued to drain even after powering the TabPro off! I'm puzzled as to what was damaged, but the end result was the battery went from 41% charge to 7% charge overnight even though it was powered off (not sleeping, but powered off) and not connected to a charger. When I discovered it was at 7% I removed my account info, but even with the charger plugged in, the battery went down to 3% while working on the TabPro. When I checked on it an hour latter it was dead. If I plugged in the charger, after about 20 seconds it would flash the green battery for about a second, then it would go out. No boot, no charging, even after leaving it charging for 24 hours.
So I'm very reluctant to try to use Qi wireless charging on my replacement tab. I suspect the Qi charging pad failed and overheated. There is a spot about the size of a dime where the plastic partially melted on the charging pad. The Poetic case and the TabPro look fine, and the charging pad still acts like it is working. Very puzzling. Any ideas or cautions?
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I'm curious if anyone has been using Qi charging with their TabPro? Anyone's comments would be appreciated.
I used a micro-usb Qi coil receiver between my TabPro 8.4 and the Poetic case for a few weeks without issues.
But then something happened to cause the Qi charging pad to overheat. I ended up having to have the TabPro 8.4 replaced by BestBuy as the TabPro would no longer charge at all, even trying different micro-usb cables and 2.1 amp power adaptors. What was even stranger, was the battery continued to drain even after powering the TabPro off! I'm puzzled as to what was damaged, but the end result was the battery went from 41% charge to 7% charge overnight even though it was powered off (not sleeping, but powered off) and not connected to a charger. When I discovered it was at 7% I removed my account info, but even with the charger plugged in, the battery went down to 3% while working on the TabPro. When I checked on it an hour latter it was dead. If I plugged in the charger, after about 20 seconds it would flash the green battery for about a second, then it would go out. No boot, no charging, even after leaving it charging for 24 hours.
So I'm very reluctant to try to use Qi wireless charging on my replacement tab. I suspect the Qi charging pad failed and overheated. There is a spot about the size of a dime where the plastic partially melted on the charging pad. The Poetic case and the TabPro look fine, and the charging pad still acts like it is working. Very puzzling. Any ideas or cautions?
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The only thing I can think of is maybe the Qi charging pad failed to deliver 2.1 Amps to correctly charge it (I don't think they even make 1 Amp coils yet? - though I could be wrong.) , maybe the tab went into charging mode but it was really discharging since not enough current was going in that it needed to charge + keep the tablet running so in the end maybe it destroyed the battery since it went completely flat which is usually a bad thing for l-ion battery's
Usually when android says the battery is at 0% the battery really has about 20% remaining for protection of the battery and preventing it from going completely empty (l-ion can really be drained to 2.5v but android reads 0% around 3.4v or 3.2v if i remember correctly as protection from flat-lining the batt), however if it was under charging mode I'm sure it would override this as it thinks it's plugged in so it's not paying attention to the battery, but really the batt is draining to compensate for the underpowered charger, that would be my guess maybe constantly using the Qi charger the battery circuitry changed the battery status from lv 2 (good) to ~ lv 4 (bad) since it wasn't receiving the current it was supposed to and the circuitry thought something was wrong with the battery cells or the battery just went bad since it was always under a charging / discharging state never reaching 100%.
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I found this tablet to be very fussy when using other chargers then its official one, I have tried several chargers and they just dont function like the stock one for example
HP Touchpad charger 5.3v - 2.0A - Very high quality charger and even won some awards for beating out other chargers - I found this would sometimes not fully charge the tablet to 100% it would idle around 98% (I have two of these chargers) - Charge current starts around 1800 mAh drops to 200 mAh when battery gets full don't think its enough to top it off. (charges at 5v)
10,000 mAh Power-bank (5v , 2.0A), found out this would not fully charge the tablet either it would get to 80%, upon further inspection the 2A port was only delivering about 1 Amp of current according to my amp reader (voltage drop to 4.98)
Samsung official charger (5.3v 2.0A)- though seems to start at a pretty high 5.60 volts (higher then other chargers) , and charges at about 1870 mAh , always reaches 100% with this charger. (I have two of these chargers since I bought another one as backup - both do the same thing)
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The only thing I can think of is maybe the Qi charging pad failed to deliver 2.1 Amps to correctly charge it (I don't think they even make 1 Amp coils yet?
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Usually when android says the battery is at 0% the battery really has about 20% remaining for protection of the battery and preventing it from going completely empty (l-ion can really be drained to 2.5v but android reads 0% around 3.4v or 3.2v if i remember correctly as protection from flat-lining the batt), however if it was under charging mode I'm sure it would override this as it thinks it's plugged in so it's not paying attention to the battery, but really the batt is draining to compensate for the underpowered charger, that would be my guess maybe constantly using the Qi charger the battery circuitry changed the battery status from lv 2 (good) to ~ lv 4 (bad) since it wasn't receiving the current it was supposed to and the circuitry thought something was wrong with the battery cells or the battery just went bad since it was always under a charging / discharging state never reaching 100%.
on a side note
I found this tablet to be very fussy when using other chargers then its official one, I have tried several chargers and they just dont function like the stock one for example
HP Touchpad charger 5.3v - 2.0A - Very high quality charger and even won some awards for beating out other chargers - I found this would sometimes not fully charge the tablet to 100% it would idle around 98% (I have two of these chargers) - Charge current starts around 1800 mAh drops to 200 mAh when battery gets full don't think its enough to top it off. (charges at 5v)
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That could be the case. Yet, for two weeks, the Qi charging had no problems taking the charge to 100%. It would charge a bit over 15% an hour. The Galaxy Charging Current app reported between 670 and 750ma charging current using Qi charging.
At this point I'll likely never know, but it could be the battery itself simply failed on the tablet. My question is mainly to see if anyone else has used Qi charging, and what their experience is. How can I display the battery status (you referenced lv 2 (good) to ~ lv 4 (bad))? The battery app from the Play Store does display "battery health" but I've only seen it say "Good".
On your side note, I occasionally plug the tablet into the USB port on my computer (measures 5.10V), and it charges at about 10% an hour while sleeping, and has repeatedly charged the battery to 100% when I leave it connected. I have an EnrePlex Jumper Prime 4400mAh that measures 5.18V, and charges at 1.5A. It has charged the battery to 100%, though will run out of juice if the battery is lower than 40% before I use it, it measures 5.18V.
I have an old Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 that I often charge via the computer's USB port, although it takes a long time, and it's battery is still fine after almost 3 years.
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That could be the case. Yet, for two weeks, the Qi charging had no problems taking the charge to 100%. It would charge a bit over 15% an hour. The Galaxy Charging Current app reported between 670 and 750ma charging current using Qi charging.
At this point I'll likely never know, but it could be the battery itself simply failed on the tablet. My question is mainly to see if anyone else has used Qi charging, and what their experience is. How can I display the battery status (you referenced lv 2 (good) to ~ lv 4 (bad))? The battery app from the Play Store does display "battery health" but I've only seen it say "Good".
On your side note, I occasionally plug the tablet into the USB port on my computer (measures 5.10V), and it charges at about 10% an hour while sleeping, and has repeatedly charged the battery to 100% when I leave it connected. I have an EnrePlex Jumper Prime 4400mAh that measures 5.18V, and charges at 1.5A. It has charged the battery to 100%, though will run out of juice if the battery is lower than 40% before I use it, it measures 5.18V.
I have an old Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 that I often charge via the computer's USB port, although it takes a long time, and it's battery is still fine after almost 3 years.
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The battery app from the play store probably does the same thing just shows a status as a replacement of the health, you can see the status with logcat occasionally you will see something like this ---
you might need root for some of these commands., you can use Terminal Emulator , adb shell, or sshd to access these commands.
Logcat::
1.
"D/BatteryService( 934): level:83, scale:100, status:3, health:2, present:true, voltage: 4091, temperature: 234, technology: Li-ion, AC powered:false, USB powered:false, Wireless powered:false, icon:17303447, invalid charger:0, online:1, current avg:-378, charge type:0, power sharing:false"
2. (shell)
dumpsys battery
will output something like this
Current Battery Service state:
AC powered: false
USB powered: false
Wireless powered: false
status: 3 < - unplugged
health: 2 <- health:2 would translate to good , health 1 would be excellent (though I have never seen a 1 status , 3 poor, 4 bad
present: true
level: 83
scale: 100
voltage: 4114
current now: -140
temperature: 248
technology: Li-ion
3. (shell, you can check out other files in the /sys/class/power_supply/battery/directory but be careful not to modify them)
cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/health
Good
I have had my S22 base for about a week, and while I am still concerned with the life I'm getting (same apps and usage pattern, about 4+ hours of SOT and 15 hours of mixed use) vs the S9, I had decided to keep it until ...
I can't get the thing to super/fast charge. I do not have a Samsung charger (waiting until I get my voucher) but do have a number of 15W and 25W PD-compliant chargers that work on everything from my S9 to my laptop. Unless I turn the phone off, all of those chargers charge S22 at a rate of 10-20% per hour, with Accubattery readings in the 200-1100 maH range, NEVER a value over that. The battery temp and voltage are well in spec. It is currently plugged into my laptop PD compliant charger at a rate of 900 mA with a "time to 100%" of 30h.
Likewise, I bought 2 car chargers that are S21 certified as well as QC3.0 and PD3.0. It has a 30W port. I used the cable that came with either charger (I've tried a ton of cables) and sometimes it gives a "0mA" reading while other times it goes 200mA-800mA at a good voltage. That means while I don't lose charge, I also don't gain. On my 30 min drive home I went from 23% to 24% with dark mode and no apps running.
Finally, to extend the mystery, depending on which aftermarket charger I use the phone itself thinks I'm Fast Charging or Super Fast Charging, reporting that on the lock screen and battery screen. On that screen it says something like 30m to 100% even though the observed charge rate is much lower.
Samsung won't talk to me unless I'm using a Samsung charger and I can't wait until I get the voucher/those are in stock ... I have 5 days to return it and unless you can help me (Obi Wan) I'll be back on that track.
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I can't get the thing to super/fast charge. I do not have a Samsung charger
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I use my old 25W (original from N10+) charger and it takes about 1 hour to charge from 15-20% to full. I have the DevCheckPro app showing me at the start 17-18W and about 6-7Amps of charge load initially, at the beginning.