Certainly no Note 5 in my future. Alternatives? - Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Well, since Samsung has chosen to remove very popular features in the Note 5 such as SD Card slot, and expandable battery, I won't be buying one. However, i am looking at the LG G4 or upcoming LG G4-Pro.
Does anyone have any experience with the LG line that could enlighten me as to whether this is a viable alternative to the under-featured Note 5?

I have had the lg g3 and now I have the lg g4 and it is an awesome phone. and its at least rooted. the camera is awesome.

I switched from Note 4 to G4. So far so good, rooted, just waiting on more development. No support for xposed or any type of recovery like twrp or safe strap, but I'm sure those will follow soon.
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I will wait until perm root is confirmed before repeating my N4 mistake. Will the G4 Pro have the dev support if rooted or will it be minimal?

I think the Moto X Pure (style) is the best looking upcoming option. I also like what I hear about the LG G4 pro/note that is supposed to release sometime this fall. Both phones sound like they would be great alternatives. I do not use the SPen in my Note phones, so I don't mind losing that. I very much do mind losing micro SD slot. I would get a Note 4 if it was rootable, but we all know it is not.

LG G4 has permanent root
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Hey teegunn - When the g4 Pro comes out, I'll happily give you a deal on my Note 4 Developer Edition.

when is the permanent root comming out for the note 4 ?

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when is the permanent root comming out for the note 4 ?
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Lg G4 is absolutely the BEST phone I've ever had. Hi, I'm Tom and I'm a cell phone addict. I've had EVERY Major flagship phone releases on Verizon for the last 5 years. Basically I keep a phone about 3 or 4 months. I thought the GS6 was the greatest phone I ever used, but it was to small for my rapidly degrading eyesight. I bought the G4 and instantly knew I had found the Holy grail.
The display is a beautiful, the android skin is fluid and nicely done, LG sent me a leather back and extra battery & charger for FREE. All I did was send in proof of purchase. The curve of the glass is perfect.
For the 1st time I don't think I'm going to get a new phone for a while, unless Verizon drops a lg g4 pro, which I doubt.
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i will be waiting and looking around.
Note 4 will hopefully be enought for another year, and then i'll switch.
I want a lighter snapragon 820 device; s-pen is not important at all.

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[Q] Should I get the LG G3?

Hi guys! I'm in a bit of a dilemma here with choosing between the LG G3 or the Nexus 5. I actually owned a Nexus 5 already but dropped it making it unusable but aside from it breaking and the 2 hr SOT battery life, the Nexus 5 was already amazing to me. The LG G3 on the other hand is obviously a beast in hardware and it looks a lot sexier but I'm just worried that I might not get the software updates I deserve on the LG G3. I'm sure Android L will hit the G3 but as always, having a manufacturer in between you and Google in terms of updates can just make things complicated. I'm just wondering if the extra $200 (That's the difference of getting one here right now in the Philippines) is worth it for the G3.
I also want to know if there are any common issues or defects I should be looking out for because I got a 2nd hand G2 after breaking my Nexus 5 and it was great except that it was heating up so easily (from just browsing and texting even) and the battery life wouldn't get me more than 3 hrs SOT so I'm kind of hesitant in getting a non-Nexus device right now. So now I'm selling my G2 and I'm in a toss up between getting a new Nexus 5 or adding some cash to get the LG G3. Hoping you G3 owners could shed some light and help me decide.
Thanks!!
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Hi guys! I'm in a bit of a dilemma here with choosing between the LG G3 or the Nexus 5. I actually owned a Nexus 5 already but dropped it making it unusable but aside from it breaking and the 2 hr SOT battery life, the Nexus 5 was already amazing to me. The LG G3 on the other hand is obviously a beast in hardware and it looks a lot sexier but I'm just worried that I might not get the software updates I deserve on the LG G3. I'm sure Android L will hit the G3 but as always, having a manufacturer in between you and Google in terms of updates can just make things complicated. I'm just wondering if the extra $200 (That's the difference of getting one here right now in the Philippines) is worth it for the G3.
I also want to know if there are any common issues or defects I should be looking out for because I got a 2nd hand G2 after breaking my Nexus 5 and it was great except that it was heating up so easily (from just browsing and texting even) and the battery life wouldn't get me more than 3 hrs SOT so I'm kind of hesitant in getting a non-Nexus device right now. So now I'm selling my G2 and I'm in a toss up between getting a new Nexus 5 or adding some cash to get the LG G3. Hoping you G3 owners could shed some light and help me decide.
Thanks!!
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If the most important thing to you is to get Android updates ASAP, then a Nexus is your best option. The Moto-X (2013) got them almost as fast as the Nexus, so the new Moto-X (2014) probably will, too. But once the sale to Lenovo is completed, who knows if that will slow things down.
Any carrier branded phone will take longer to get updates. Including the G3. I think what the G3 offers over the Nexus makes the wait worthwhile, but not everyone will feel the same way.
I was in the same dilemma, and didn't know which one to get. I figured the Nexus 5 was getting a little out dated and the camera was much better on the G3. I have T-Mobile so I ended up getting the G3 becuase the bootloader was unlocked and the G3 had better hardware and design. I can't wait until a steady AOSP ROM is available. CM 11 is in Alpha stage in the G3 as of now.
Hei
So you guy´s think lg is going to unlock bootloaders as they said?
I´m very much in a dilemma between g3 and note 4...on note 4 there´s gonna be tons of custom roms etc. but not so sure about g3 tho?
But if cm11 is on alpha stage, it´s a very god start, everybody can live with cm11, aosp not needed that bad then!
What would you guy´s choose?
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Hei
So you guy´s think lg is going to unlock bootloaders as they said?
I´m very much in a dilemma between g3 and note 4...on note 4 there´s gonna be tons of custom roms etc. but not so sure about g3 tho?
But if cm11 is on alpha stage, it´s a very god start, everybody can live with cm11, aosp not needed that bad then!
What would you guy´s choose?
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I returned my LG G3 the day the Note 4 was announced.
+ on the LG G3: form factor, rear buttons, max screen to size ratio, camera
- on the LG G3: display, display, display. Coming from a line of Samsung phones, the LG G3 display is dim and colors are underwhelming
+- i never had any trouble with lag, fast enough for me.
I think G3 is a new experience....its so smooth I am so happy with it ,.
About battery:at first time it still gor 9-12 hours , but know is 19- 22 hours ....?.
I thinks you should get it
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I think G3 is a new experience....its so smooth I am so happy with it ,
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Get it. Great phone, Display really is something else. Batterys not all that bad just not the leader in the market. Good UI. Not touchwiz crap. Get it haha
Well..I had to decide, too.
The LG3 has a fantastic display but has some issues.
Some people aren't able to make the audio output working in their cars, like me.
Additionally, the LG is a bit laggy, but there are workarounds available and very good working.
The features are stunning, battery is good and the material is fantastic.
I owned a Galaxy Note 2 and experienced that the G3 is close to perfection.
It is like getting a car.
A Volkswagen Golf is nice, but a Lamborghini is nicer.
=> If you aren't able to buy the LG G3, go for the Nexus 5.
In my opinion you have to buy the G3..
I test it yesterday , and the battery from100% to 18 % about 30 h ?.....indeed .....maybe no one will belive that? .....but it's truth?.......well .....with my special Using.
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Do you like your Note 4?

So I just sold my Xperia Z2, Thinking about the Note 4 or G3?
Im leaning more towards the Note 4 but is there common issues going on with them? I`d be buying one Used AT&T is asking way too much for theres.
Also is there an International like rom/stock rom that will work with the AT&T varient? I cannot stand what AT&T does to there software.
Honestly I have Note 4 from AT&T, it's amazing... way better than LG G3... G3 has a few serious issues people say the battery life is horrible, also they phone overheats, it will auto dim your screen when this happens, if you try to turn it up a message comes out an say your phone is to hot... also you can't use no roms on at&t note 4, SM-N910A model and SM-N910V (Verizon) model both r not able to b rooted yet, but I personally think after 5.0 gets released an couple months after we will have a root but right now no... people will alway find ways just takes time an no point when they kno a software update is due... personally I bought a Note 4 but if I was gunna buy any other phone would have been iPhone 6 or 6+ or Nexus 6
my wife has the G3 and I have the Note 4. I'm obviously biased but I prefer the N4 over the G3. Just personal preference since both devices are great. I do like the 'knock to unlock' feature on the G3 and the speakers seem to be louder but I dont regret getting the N4.
It all comes down to your preference.
hyelton said:
So I just sold my Xperia Z2, Thinking about the Note 4 or G3?
Im leaning more towards the Note 4 but is there common issues going on with them? I`d be buying one Used AT&T is asking way too much for theres.
Also is there an International like rom/stock rom that will work with the AT&T varient? I cannot stand what AT&T does to there software.
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tl;dr = YES!!
My full $.02 is on my site: http://www.stupidputer.com/2015/02/the-nexus-4-finally-dies/
I am really drawn to the camera. It takes great pictures, focuses quickly and has very low shot latency, which is really important. My last phone, the LG G2 also took nice pictures, but was so damn slow in shooting. But I'll probably be the first person to jump to the Galaxy s6 and HTC One M9 when they come out. Android doesn't do a great job with utilizing the bigger screens of phones. With the iPhone 6 plus, you get nice landscape UI shift with a lot of apps.
In all honesty, if I had it to do over again, I would probably get the iphone 6. The Note is a little laggy and slugguish and the allure of the spen wore off pretty quickly.

Is a G4 worth it over a Note 4?

Hello all, I apologise if this is in the wrong section but I'm buying either a G4 or note 4 today and need advice.
My G3 died a few days ago and I'm thinking about upgrading to either a Note 4 or G4. I'm sorta leaning towards a note even though its £100 more over the G4.
I like to tinker and install custom roms for my phone, will both allow me to? I've read somewhere that the Note 4 can't be rooted and touchwiz is laggy
Thanks
FTW G4 definitly if u buy g4 make sure to buy H815 Model bcz its the only one that have alot roms and recovery as i know also im a g3 user as previous
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The note 4 has better look & feel but the G4 has sdcard slot and removeable battery.
If there isn't root for the n4 yet it probably will have it soon and expect much more Roms and an bigger community on the Samsung phone.
And don't take "touchwiz or phone is laggy" that serious lol
I have an i4790k and an GTX980 and I can make it lag.
ummmm........ Note 4 and G4 are not even competitors, G4 competes well with Note 5, but with Note 5, you no longer have replaceable battery or SD card slot - making the LG G4 the best phone you can get right now when you factor in camera quality and the removable battery, removable memory, screen quality, sound, etc.
Just make sure to get the H815 International version with a Euro country code as shown here, so you can unlock the bootloader, root Marshmallow, run TWRP, etc.
If there was a better phone out there at any price, I would own it!
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The note 4 has better look & feel but the G4 has sdcard slot and removeable battery.
If there isn't root for the n4 yet it probably will have it soon and expect much more Roms and an bigger community on the Samsung phone.
And don't take "touchwiz or phone is laggy" that serious lol
I have an i4790k and an GTX980 and I can make it lag.
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The note 4 has removable battery and sd card slot too
Ye true sry had the note5 in my mind
Btw. the note4 has root
i have both device i still think My note 4 way better in software and features, and pen too, my n910f is rooted, feel faster and smoother. G4 has lag in ui and recent task screen , only thing G4 has going for is camera, still using my note 4 as my primary device over G4, G4 lying on my desk.
Get better battery life on my note 4, i can get 2 days, were my G4 get only 1 days, screen brightness doesn't compare anywhere near good as note 4
Cozmos23 said:
The note 4 has better look & feel but the G4 has sdcard slot and removeable battery.
If there isn't root for the n4 yet it probably will have it soon and expect much more Roms and an bigger community on the Samsung phone.
And don't take "touchwiz or phone is laggy" that serious lol
I have an i4790k and an GTX980 and I can make it lag.
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The note 4 has a removable battery and SD card and can be rooted I had one
I prefer the g4 over note 4 I like the screen and feel of it also looks better IMO
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Note 4 isn't worth £100 more than the G4
The g4 sells for 399.00 and is compatable with a 2tb external sdxc. Any phone with 2tb sdxc external capability gets my vote.
I have g3 and note 4 both device. For me my g3 is better then note 4 in every expect.....only one lag not 4 use 805 chip so it's little bit fast but except this g3 is much better than note 4... i don't use g4 but i think g4 should be better choice but make sure you will buy latest one .
I came from a Note 4 to the G4 and couldn't be happier. I prefer the software of the G4 and the camera is much better. Speed and battery wise they were pretty comparable for me. And since the G4 is £100 cheaper it makes it a no brainer.
Both devices can be rooted and can install custom roms but like others have said, just make sure you get the correct model so you can unlock bootloader and root etc.
I tried the note 4 and quickly went back to my G4. Maybe it was a bad phone but the Note 4 I purchased had terrible lag. Just awful. However, if you want the functionality of the S pen and need the SD slot, the Note 4 is really the only option.

Why G4 price went down to $350?

Anyone knows why the price for the G4 went down to like $350? Like I can buy a new G4 from Tmobile for only $350, when the G5 is not even outo yet? And the G4 was just release about half a year ago?
Lg phones always go down.They go down more than any other phones so expect the LG G5 will be down in 6 months to the $300
As said, LG phones get cheap really quick. Plus, the device itself doesn't feel any expensive, so it's no surprise for to see it at that price.
the G5 is coming out soon. Same thing happening with the galaxy s6
is so that they want you to buy the phones that will be on the shelves.. they need to get rid of it..
As mentioned, between the V10 and G5, this phone is becoming more and more outdated. I'm sure the bootloop fiasco didn't help, either.
What's odd is when I was hit with the bootloop, I was going to go back to the G3 but they still wanted almost $400 for it, despite the G4, V10, and upcoming G5.
Don't worry the G5 will have the same depreciation
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I'm personally finished with LG mobile devices. The G4 has been a nightmare. When it's used without being rooted, the icons and navigation bar are huge. Looks like its designed for the visually impaired. Back to the Nexus 6p for me.
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yeah... LG i'm done with them too, it's actually more expensive to buy an LG's device than an IPhone if you change every year.
Me three done with LG, first phone bootlooped after eight months and now the replacement has mic issues, screen buzz, and LCD image issues at the bottom. LG needs to step up or be content being number three or four.
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I had no issues with my LG G4, its fast and smooth, excellent performance beautifull camera, great material, black leather, excellent speaker, screen and battery quality. for me its even better than G5...and much much bettern than any other samsung phone outover there, S6, S7, N5. etc....
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I had no issues with my LG G4, its fast and smooth, excellent performance beautifull camera, great material, black leather, excellent speaker, screen and battery quality. for me its even better than G5...and much much bettern than any other samsung phone outover there, S6, S7, N5. etc....
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whats with the bootloop problem. it cant be fixed? must it be fixed by LG?
Bootloop can be fixed. You need to send your G4 to LG for the fix.
Count me in the group that's done with LG. They fixed my bootloop but sent my phone back with a messed up camera. I planned on using this thing for photos on my honeymoon, too.

What are you going to take after the G4?

Hey guys so this is my last day here at the G4 forum. Ditching my phone for an Oneplus 3.
I Wanted to create a thread where u can share information about your next device and why u leaving the G4.
For me it's clear. I have a sn 506 which thank god never bootlooped. I sent my phone after 12 months of usage in because of crazy screen burn in and they replaced me Motherboard processor and PCB. And it did get worse after that. Phone got unusable and the lack of Updates made my choice in direction to the OP3.
Goodbye Guys
I'm still using my LG G4 and I'm loving every bit of my experience with it. My next phone, when I replace it would be either LG G5 or LG V20.
Motorola are good phones, Samsung is great, I've used different models of those. But there is no other phone like LG when it comes to Androids. Best experience ever.
They aren't good at marketing their products like their competitors which makes them loose the market to less quality products out there. Otherwise, LG makes great phones. Remember the time when LG released LG Viewty? The whole world had that phone on their wish-list. They still make extraordinary phones.
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Steering clear of any LG phones. The G3, G4, G5, and V10 all had bootloop problems. No thanks.
I am an Android fan and modder since 2013. I love(d) Android. So much customization, and I still like my G4 (except the fact if i hit it very weakly or it accidently jumps down the battery connection loses and it turns off). Few months ago I bought an iPad Air 2. I have to tell you, iOS is awesome. Lag? Not even a micro. Weaker hardware than G4 and runs much smoother. I also love iOS animations. Sorry Android, but.....
My new phone will be probably an iPhone 7 Pro/Plus, or a 7S.
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I am an Android fan and modder since 2013. I love(d) Android. So much customization, and I still like my G4 (except the fact if i hit it very weakly or it accidently jumps down the battery connection loses and it turns off). Few months ago I bought an iPad Air 2. I have to tell you, iOS is awesome. Lag? Not even a micro. Weaker hardware than G4 and runs much smoother. I also love iOS animations. Sorry Android, but.....
My new phone will be probably an iPhone 7 Pro/Plus, or a 7S.
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You were a modder and now you want to go into iOS jail?! Mah...
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One thing is sure..i will never buy any phone from LG,G4 is the worst phone I've had so far,for LG is best to produce dishwashers instead of smartphones,with my G4 i have problems with :red colored retention on gray colored parts of display,poor call quality ,call volume too low and distorted,terrible battery life,overheating,phone is 505 series it has has problems with everything except the camera ,and the damn thing does not want to die (bootloop issue) so I can get a new phone because I still have a year warranty on damn thing,never more LG smartphone ,next phone will be most likely iphone 6s plus or new coming iphone 7 i am just to tired of tweaking android so i can have a normal phone
My next device would either be a HTC or Nexus. I saw how the G2 and G3 had the bootloader unlocked eventually so I thought the same would happen. I then realized how much I truly needed it, life without AOSP feels so.. Slow.
HTC always seems to be spot on with their devices on the software level. Their camera need work but I'm not a photographer anyways.
Nexus is like a blank canvas and can be tuned to your liking. I'd probably go nuts with the options available.
Looking forward for V20,
Own att G4 with 506 serial and so far so good for my daily usage...even with my front camera have focusing issue but i'm not a selfie person.
Feel sorry for those who had bootloop issue with their device
I love the G4 but my confidence in it is basically shot. I've had it about nine months and it has had to go back for warranty repairs three times. Twice for screen issues and once for bootlooping. Add to that my non-carrier H815T is still on the January security patch, which is crazy. It's disappointing because my two previous phones (Nexus 5 and Nexus 4) were both also LG devices and were really good. But now every time my G4 has the slightest bump, stuff that I would normally just ignore as a quirk, I find myself sweating that it's about to start bootlooping again or get some other crazy hardware issue.
I'm going to wait and see what the new Nexus device is like when it's released in a few weeks. If that doesn't tickle my fancy then I'll have a serious look at a Samsung Galaxy S7.
Got a Oneplus 3 on the way. Going to sell my G4 SN 506 EU H815 even though it has had zero issues and in brief been a fantastic device. Just can't really gamble on it not developing bootloop. Plus OP3 has fingerprint scanner, excellent development and just generally a very well rounded device.:good:
If I drop my G4, then I will get a HTC 10 or one of the new Nexus devices. Depends on the price of course and if I had the money...:good: (So I don't know if ever...student life without money ftw!:silly: )
Moto Z Play
Good camera, good battery, thats all i need
My actually device is the LG G4, it's a good Smartphone, but I think the G3 was a bit better, it was easier to root and flash then the G4, the design from the G3 is so much better.
My next device is: LG V20, G5 or Nexus 6p
Sorry for my ****ing **** English
Though I'm pretty happy with my LG G4, having heard of all these bootloop and other issues, I probably won't be getting another LG device. From a design point of view, the G5 does not appeal to me one bit. Pretty much the same goes for the V20.
Having used a few smartphones now, I began to lean more towards stock Android, so probably a new Nexus device is on the horizon for me. OnePlus might be an option as well.
My boat with LG G4 has sailed. I enjoyed this device and now I have given it away.
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I purchased the G4 on October 2015 and got the bootloop on December: so I sent it for repair before the holidays and they replaced the motherboard (IMEI and SN untouched), then I got it back on January. After this episode I've never had a single problem with this phone, I really love it, but at the same time I'm really disappointed about how LG (at least here in Italy) supports it (just a security patch after 8 months, when other phones get regular patches every month). Also, I red about many G4s that bootlooped again even if they were repaired the first time and now some V10s and G5s do the same thing too, so I'm a little bit afraid that bootloop might happen again. Patience, but I don't think my next phone will be another LG, I'm going to get an HTC (my One S was a really good phone and today for basic stuff is still OK) or an ASUS (I recently bought for my mum a Zenfone and it's fantastic) in the future. I usually change my phone every 3-4 years, so I have much time to think about this.
I love stability and camera quality in phones.
When I came back to Android I tied a few till I get at G4.
Loved Huawei Mate S and OnePlus 2.
But camera it's all G4, so ill stick with it till I get a better one.
For me it's only one bad thing about this phone, its the screen resolution - no point higher than FHD for a 5.5 screen and battery suffer cause of LG choice.
Rest I'm loving it.
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Guys...... Nexus is dead.
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Guys...... Nexus is dead.
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What do you mean with that?
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What do you mean with that?
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This, probably - http://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-and-google-pixel-xl-coming-to-you-on-october-4th/
I'm not due an upgrade for a year, but my next phone will most likely be a Nexus (or Pixel/whatever they call them).

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