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Intl galaxy note 2 or att galaxy note 2

Hey guys,
Looking for some opinions. I'm planning on jumping ship top the galaxy note 2. I live in the USA and I'm in an area with great LTE coverage. I'm either going to purchase the international or local variant.
I'm thinking of getting the international version because I assume development will be much greater and more accessories available.
If I wait and get the Att version I'll have access to the LTE network, but I fear there will be less development and accessories.
Any thoughts, what would you guys do?
Thanks,
Rob
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Great LTE speeds or great development. AT&T version will have the same specs as the international version. The rest is up to you to make a decision

im getting unlocked version i have a GS3 on ATT and HSAP+ is pretty good on ATT.. plus no crap ware from ATT unless you root which is the only to roll :highfive: more support on unlock.. plus HSAP+ will be more battery friendly :victory:

markysd said:
im getting unlocked version i have a GS3 on ATT and HSAP+ is pretty good on ATT.. plus no crap ware from ATT unless you root which is the only to roll :highfive: more support on unlock.. plus HSAP+ will be more battery friendly :victory:
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My thoughts exacty. Received my N7100 on Monday. LTE is not available in my area anyway.
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Pinkthesink said:
Hey guys,
Looking for some opinions. I'm planning on jumping ship top the galaxy note 2. I live in the USA and I'm in an area with great LTE coverage. I'm either going to purchase the international or local variant.
I'm thinking of getting the international version because I assume development will be much greater and more accessories available.
If I wait and get the Att version I'll have access to the LTE network, but I fear there will be less development and accessories.
Any thoughts, what would you guys do?
Thanks,
Rob
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i am in the same boat, picked up the NOTE 2 7100 and honestly after using the htc one x lte for 5 months on mobile network i really havent felt deprived unless im viewing a picture heavy site. my theory is i can sell my 7100 get the att one or buy the att one stuff my 7100 in the box (after switching stickers of course) and return it.

americasteam said:
My thoughts exacty. Received my N7100 on Monday. LTE is not available in my area anyway.
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must be loving it:victory: im close to pulling the trigger..the more i go on this site and watch youtube videos about the Note 2 the closer ill buy it..im really wanting a 32GB due to i dont know why we cant run apps from SD cards or burst shots saved ect and what else that only runs on internal memory..16GB now days gets eaten up quick specially when backed up roms .. the SD card reader on the NOTE supports them crazy fast reading from sandisk cards...
high end phones now days should be 32GB at the lowest phones are getting smarter/faster/higher camera MP ect and require more GB but i guess i can live with 16GB for apps only and like 3 roms backed up ect..i feel more safe with 32GB plus the note is design for content consumption i dont really talk on the phone:silly:
i miss my note 1 in a way but was just a test drive to see if i like it and i did. i dont really like 1st gen devices.

I'm agreeing with you guys about LTE, its fast but the hspa+ in this area is real good as well. Plus there's no telling what Att will do to the device, bootloader and all. I think I'll go the intl route for now. Any ideas on foreign suppliers right now, I've used clove on the UK for the original note and gs2 with great success.
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I prefer international version too but I'm having such a bad luck with data speed. I can barely go over 1mbps, if I'm lucky 2mbps at the most. I know my location has LTE coverage but doesn't seem hspa+ friendly. It's so frustrating, for that reason I might try att LTE version since specs are most identical.
As for accessories, I don't think there will be too much difference. Int & US S3 has just about same amount of accessories availability. I assume it will be same for Note 2.
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One thing I don't see a lot of people mentioning is the tethering capabilities of the international version.
That is the main reason why I went with the international version of the US version HTC One X, Galaxy S3 and now the Note 2 was for the built in tethering.
With the US version, as soon as I tried tethering a device to it, it requires me to add an appropriate more expensive data plan before I can connect.
With the international versions, I tether all day to them with my laptop, my other wifi devices ect. without incurring any extra charges or making any changes to my current data plan.
That my friend, is way worth it for me to go with the international version.

Once you got LTE, you never go back...thats me though. Same exact specs plus LTE? Also it should be out in a week or two? Id wait.

So people who have Note 2 in the US how are your data speeds are seeing a big difference in not having the LTE version? I live in a non LTE area does affect me?
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jawain said:
So people who have Note 2 in the US how are your data speeds are seeing a big difference in not having the LTE version? I live in a non LTE area does affect me?
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Comparing my international note2 to my wife's galaxy S3 with AT&T's LTE service, she gets faster data speeds - at least 2x what I can get (and sometimes even 4-5x times what I can get.) (I get about 4 to 7 down while I've seen hers go as high as 25 down.) However, it's really not noticable for web browsing, email, etc. The only time I noticed any difference (outside of the speedtest benchmark app) was when downloading something from the google play store. Even that isn't an issue for me, as I usually don't download from the play store when I'm not home (and on wifi.)
Having the LTE device will result in heavier battery usage (even in a non-LTE area.) Until the devices start showing up, however, it's impossible to say what the difference will be. It might be an extremely power efficient LTE chip, or it might not be. The extra drain will be most noticable when the device is connected to the LTE network and data is transfering. Even when NOT using data or not connected to LTE, it will still drain extra power (as the extra LTE chip will be powered and will occassionally search for an LTE connection.)
Take care
Gary

garyd9 said:
Comparing my international note2 to my wife's galaxy S3 with AT&T's LTE service, she gets faster data speeds - at least 2x what I can get (and sometimes even 4-5x times what I can get.) (I get about 4 to 7 down while I've seen hers go as high as 25 down.) However, it's really not noticable for web browsing, email, etc. The only time I noticed any difference (outside of the speedtest benchmark app) was when downloading something from the google play store. Even that isn't an issue for me, as I usually don't download from the play store when I'm not home (and on wifi.)
Having the LTE device will result in heavier battery usage (even in a non-LTE area.) Until the devices start showing up, however, it's impossible to say what the difference will be. It might be an extremely power efficient LTE chip, or it might not be. The extra drain will be most noticable when the device is connected to the LTE network and data is transfering. Even when NOT using data or not connected to LTE, it will still drain extra power (as the extra LTE chip will be powered and will occassionally search for an LTE connection.)
Take care
Gary
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Thank you for that information so despite the the data speeds are you satisfied with the Int Note 2 or do you think you will switching to the US version?
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I have never owned an LTE phone and seem to do just fine on HSPA+. My Note 2 will here Monday (from Newegg) and I'll just use it as I do every other HSPA+ phone. If it meets my needs (streaming netflix/radio/tethering) I'll just keep it. If the AT&T version is super power efficient and screams on LTE without sucking (bloatware, locked down, etc) I'll just sell my mint international Note 2 and move on with my life and get the AT&T version.
Win-win.

jawain said:
Thank you for that information so despite the the data speeds are you satisfied with the Int Note 2 or do you think you will switching to the US version?
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Most likely, I'll keep the international version. I expect AT&T to sell their LTE version for 750 off contract (75 more than I paid for the international), it'll be bloated (as every AT&T device is), locked to AT&T frequencies and SIMs, and I don't think it'll be as well supported by the open community as the n7100.
Finally, I think it'll be at least one more generation of chips before LTE is power efficient enough for me. I simply don't do anything with my phone that really takes advantage of the LTE speeds - so the extra battery drain from the LTE support isn't worth it for me.
If I used my phone for tethering, on the other hand, I probably wouldn't even consider the non-LTE handsets anymore (and would keep a spare battery or two.)
Take care
Gary

Any idea what size sim card will be used for the AT&T version? Should be regular size right? That is my only concern because I don't want to have to cut my regular sized sim card if I were to get the international version. Unless AT&T will use micro sim too... if that's the case then I could just buy the international version now since I'll be cutting my sim card either way.. and I don't really need LTE and AT&T's bloatware.

maykatok said:
Any idea what size sim card will be used for the AT&T version? Should be regular size right? That is my only concern because I don't want to have to cut my regular sized sim card if I were to get the international version. Unless AT&T will use micro sim too... if that's the case then I could just buy the international version now since I'll be cutting my sim card either way.. and I don't really need LTE and AT&T's bloatware.
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microSIM. Pretty much all new phones these days are micro. It's the new standard.

What carriers are you guys using to tether?
Just curious because i was considering straight talk but its against their ToS to tether.

just something i found on youtube!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz6frJcsAh0
LTE version of note 2 bench marked lower then the N7100

turilo said:
just something i found on youtube!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz6frJcsAh0
LTE version of note 2 bench marked lower then the N7100
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Lol totally disregard my last post lte note 2 is the same in benchmark tests
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T-Mobile Galaxy Note II Is Future Proofed With LTE

T-Mobile Galaxy Note II Passes Through The FCC, Is Future Proofed With LTE
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/09/t-mo...s-through-the-fcc-is-future-proofed-with-lte/
850/1900 GSM/GPRS/EDGE, 850/1700/1900 WCDMA/HSPA, Band 4 (5, 10, 15, 20 MHz), 17 LTE (5, 10 MHz).
Yup, that’s both 700 MHz for LTE roaming and 1700 MHz (T-Mobile’s AWS band) for LTE, which means only one thing — the Galaxy Note II is future proofed for T-Mobile’s LTE network, coming in 2013.
The rest of the report is under confidentiality so there isn’t a whole lot else we can discover from the FCC filings, but at this point the presence of LTE was the only unknown we had hoped to find. The rest of the Note II is pretty standard globally so we don’t expect any more surprises. To be honest, with the discovery of LTE on board, we can’t think of any better surprises.
While it’s true my excitement of LTE and future-proofing may be preliminary, the Galaxy Note II is likely to be a device many of you consider to be the best of both the tablet and smartphone world. The knowledge that the device will be ready and waiting for T-Mobile’s LTE network to go live in 2013 and won’t require a new piece of hardware is just a little bit of comfort in a world where hardware turns over far faster than our upgrade dates.

Cool...but. I'll be using my Note 3 by the time you see LTE on your Note 2

No need to wait for LTE, HSPA+ for now is just as fast if not faster in places. As far as getting LTE it adds/keeps value when time comes to resale the device.
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acrown said:
No need to wait for LTE, HSPA+ for now is just as fast if not faster in places. As far as getting LTE it adds/keeps value when time comes to resale the device.
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Haha... that's where the LTE rumors started... I'd totally forgot about the FCC filings... of course sometimes they're not always true, but this looks right

shook187 said:
Cool...but. I'll be using my Note 3 by the time you see LTE on your Note 2
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Even if it's true that T-Mobile is slow in adopting LTE, I'm still happy with their service because they are the only carrier that provide WiFi Calling. This is very important for me since no carrier has any signal inside my apartment unit, and also while travelling overseas. If not for the WiFi Calling feature built into T-Mo's phones firmware, I would have already bought the international version with or without LTE. I've been very happy with my Galaxy S3 on T-Mo without LTE, but I want the bigger screen and S-Pen. Eagerly waiting for the US launch. Only a few more days! I'm sure I'll have a Note 3 as well! Lol, I just got my S3 and I'm already looking at Note 2.

akkidy said:
Even if it's true that T-Mobile is slow in adopting LTE, I'm still happy with their service because they are the only carrier that provide WiFi Calling. This is very important for me since no carrier has any signal inside my apartment unit, and also while travelling overseas. If not for the WiFi Calling feature built into T-Mo's phones firmware, I would have already bought the international version with or without LTE. I've been very happy with my Galaxy S3 on T-Mo without LTE, but I want the bigger screen and S-Pen. Eagerly waiting for the US launch. Only a few more days! I'm sure I'll have a Note 3 as well! Lol, I just got my S3 and I'm already looking at Note 2.
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Agreed! Wifi Calling is ingenious! That's also the reason why I won't get any other non-T-Mobile branded phone.

achusaysblessyou said:
Agreed! Wifi Calling is ingenious! That's also the reason why I won't get any other non-T-Mobile branded phone.
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I do wifi calling without even needing a carrier.
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For wifi calling use Talkatone and your Gvoice account if you have limited minutes on t-mobile. It's unlimited incoming and outgoing over wifi or 3g. And you have the benefit of having a second number to give out.
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akkidy said:
Even if it's true that T-Mobile is slow in adopting LTE, I'm still happy with their service because they are the only carrier that provide WiFi Calling. This is very important for me since no carrier has any signal inside my apartment unit, and also while travelling overseas. If not for the WiFi Calling feature built into T-Mo's phones firmware, I would have already bought the international version with or without LTE. I've been very happy with my Galaxy S3 on T-Mo without LTE, but I want the bigger screen and S-Pen. Eagerly waiting for the US launch. Only a few more days! I'm sure I'll have a Note 3 as well! Lol, I just got my S3 and I'm already looking at Note 2.
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Hey, does wifi calling works with sms/mms? I'm getting two different stories from tmobile sale rep. One says it only works for voice and other says it covers voice/sms/mms :/ which is it?
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zen0s said:
Hey, does wifi calling works with sms/mms? I'm getting two different stories from tmobile sale rep. One says it only works for voice and other says it covers voice/sms/mms :/ which is it?
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does voice and sms/mms...both work over wifi....

zen0s said:
Hey, does wifi calling works with sms/mms? I'm getting two different stories from tmobile sale rep. One says it only works for voice and other says it covers voice/sms/mms :/ which is it?
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Covers them all.

LTE capability confirmed by T-Mobile. http://www.tmonews.com/2012/10/t-mo...idden-lte-support-same-hardware-as-att-model/

Very grateful to you all of the news, once again, are looking forward to your update ah

Should the tmo gn2 show H instead of 4g on the top? I'm ALWAYS in 4g. I just assumed I'd seen an H pop up from time to time and I'm in Chicago.
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keebs29 said:
Should the tmo gn2 show H instead of 4g on the top? I'm ALWAYS in 4g. I just assumed I'd seen an H pop up from time to time and I'm in Chicago.
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The h is basically their 3.5 g before they upgraded it to their higher hspa+ network
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Has anyone tried slipping an At&t LTE micro sim (dirty i know), into the Tmo Note2?
I know we're all supposedly waiting for an update to the radio firmware but can't hurt to ask.
None of my friends have an LTE microsim phone.

[Q] Note 2 LTE or wait for Note 3?

hope im posting it on the correct section.
Anyways, I've been offered by my carrier a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 LTE version. I have th Samsung Galaxy Note 2 3g version now.
All I have to do is renew my contract for 24 months and also I wont have to pay more for LTE, im already on Unlimited Data on my Note 2, I just have to change my phone to a LTE enabled phone to get LTE.
Question is, is it worth the upgrade now? Or wait a few months for the Note 3 to come out?

Wait.
Really, are you always thinking "this isn't downloading fast enough?"
Locking yourself in for 24 months is nuts.

note3 ofc

muppetmania said:
Wait.
Really, are you always thinking "this isn't downloading fast enough?"
Locking yourself in for 24 months is nuts.
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Here's the thing..
the fastest speed I got from my Note 2 3G is 5mbps
But I've seen people here with LTE go up to 20mbps and more...
Also, I think locking for 24 months is no problem with me. Since I've been using the same carrier for more than 10 years now
And unfortunately, where I live, we cannot retain the same mobile number if we change carriers, so unless that happens Im stuck with the same carrier.

providence said:
Here's the thing..
the fastest speed I got from my Note 2 3G is 5mbps
But I've seen people here with LTE go up to 20mbps and more...
Also, I think locking for 24 months is no problem with me. Since I've been using the same carrier for more than 10 years now
And unfortunately, where I live, we cannot retain the same mobile number if we change carriers, so unless that happens Im stuck with the same carrier.
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What are you ever doing on your phone where 5mbs isn't fast enough?
I had a S3 and went to a Note 2 LTE. Have I ever noticed any difference apart from running wanky speedtest? No.
If you really need that speed, sure, get it. But it sounds like you're just seeing the bigger number and thinking you're missing out. You're really not.
If you're so vain you need to show off fast speedtest, then yes you should also get it.

It really depends, to be honest. I have a Note 2 right now, but I'd really like a N7105 LTE version. I briefly had a Galaxy S4 but got rid of it because it wasn't as good as the Note 2. If the Note 3 comes out and is just a SGS4 in a Note size, then I'd take the LTE Note 2 any day. The slowness and lag of the S4, particularly in the camera app, coupled with the outrageous heat it generates and the pointlessly short battery life while doing very little make it a no-go. Hopefully the Note 3 is better engineered.....

Had note 2 LTE version sold it but missed it and bought cheaper n7100 but not much difference. Best wait for note 3
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Is anyone using the T-mobile version on AT&T yet??

Since people got their hands on the T-mobile version yesterday I am curious if anyone is using it on AT&T yet?
Thanks

I'm interested too... I get mine tomorrow.

As far as I can tell, the Sim card unlocks are not available yet. A few vendors say they should have them going by this week. Hopefully by Friday when my TMo Note 4 arrives.

I was under the impression you could just put your ATT sim in a TMobile phone and off you go. Not true?

There is a guy in the TMo forum that said he found someone who could unlock (~$35) it and he is using it on AT&T currently.

I got my phone on Monday (t mobile version) i unlock it on wend, since then i have been using it but had to call costumer service since i lost lte signal 2 times already, worry that this might be a issue i will see often

eddiealiano said:
I got my phone on Monday (t mobile version) i unlock it on wend, since then i have been using it but had to call costumer service since i lost lte signal 2 times already, worry that this might be a issue i will see often
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Have you tried a different APN?
I owned both the T-Mobile and AT&T Note 3. I started off with the T-Mobile variant and was never very happy with LTE reception. It would just drop LTE often.
After reading of others on XDA experiencing the same issue, I bought the AT&T version. Immediately, I noticed a big jump in LTE strength. I know the debate still exists to whether or not the AT&T variant has better network tuning specific to AT&T's network. It didn't really matter to me what it was. It was enough of an improvement for me to give up my T-Mobile variant with an unlocked bootloader.
For the Note 4 I'm waiting on some feedback from users with the T-Mobile variant on AT&Ts network. Your post isn't very reassuring.

done12many2 said:
Have you tried a different APN?
I owned both the T-Mobile and AT&T Note 3. I started off with the T-Mobile variant and was never very happy with LTE reception. It would just drop LTE often.
After reading of others on XDA experiencing the same issue, I bought the AT&T version. Immediately, I noticed a big jump in LTE strength. I know the debate still exists to whether or not the AT&T variant has better network tuning specific to AT&T's network. It didn't really matter to me what it was. It was enough of an improvement for me to give up my T-Mobile variant with an unlocked bootloader.
For the Note 4 I'm waiting on some feedback from users with the T-Mobile variant on AT&Ts network. Your post isn't very reassuring.
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But it doesn't make sense why some never experience the issue

done12many2 said:
Have you tried a different APN?
I owned both the T-Mobile and AT&T Note 3. I started off with the T-Mobile variant and was never very happy with LTE reception. It would just drop LTE often.
After reading of others on XDA experiencing the same issue, I bought the AT&T version. Immediately, I noticed a big jump in LTE strength. I know the debate still exists to whether or not the AT&T variant has better network tuning specific to AT&T's network. It didn't really matter to me what it was. It was enough of an improvement for me to give up my T-Mobile variant with an unlocked bootloader.
For the Note 4 I'm waiting on some feedback from users with the T-Mobile variant on AT&Ts network. Your post isn't very reassuring.
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I'm very interested in this info also. I read at a few places that the Tmobile and AT&T versions are going to be very much identical. But who knows...

done12many2 said:
Have you tried a different APN?
I owned both the T-Mobile and AT&T Note 3. I started off with the T-Mobile variant and was never very happy with LTE reception. It would just drop LTE often.
After reading of others on XDA experiencing the same issue, I bought the AT&T version. Immediately, I noticed a big jump in LTE strength. I know the debate still exists to whether or not the AT&T variant has better network tuning specific to AT&T's network. It didn't really matter to me what it was. It was enough of an improvement for me to give up my T-Mobile variant with an unlocked bootloader.
For the Note 4 I'm waiting on some feedback from users with the T-Mobile variant on AT&Ts network. Your post isn't very reassuring.
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That's weird indeed.
Note 3 and Note 4 from T-mobile have both been flawless for me on AT&T. I unlocked my Note 4 yesterday, and have zero connectivity issues that I know of. While it may be possible a AT&T branded phone works better on their network, I have no complaints at all. 25Mb/down, 17Mb/up was my last speed test.
Even if there is a slight difference, isn't it worth using the T-mo variant anyway, for the unlocked bootloader and all the extra options that provides?

edouble312 said:
That's weird indeed.
Note 3 and Note 4 from T-mobile have both been flawless for me on AT&T. I unlocked my Note 4 yesterday, and have zero connectivity issues that I know of. While it may be possible a AT&T branded phone works better on their network, I have no complaints at all. 25Mb/down, 17Mb/up was my last speed test.
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That sounds promising. What city are you in? and were you able to unlock at the store or did at home over the phone? Thanks.

edouble312 said:
That's weird indeed.
Note 3 and Note 4 from T-mobile have both been flawless for me on AT&T. I unlocked my Note 4 yesterday, and have zero connectivity issues that I know of. While it may be possible a AT&T branded phone works better on their network, I have no complaints at all. 25Mb/down, 17Mb/up was my last speed test.
Even if there is a slight difference, isn't it worth using the T-mo variant anyway, for the unlocked bootloader and all the extra options that provides?
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I agree that the unlocked bootloader is a pretty big deal. Unfortunately the difference in LTE reception in my case warranted selling my T-Mobile version after comparing.
I should have mentioned that both phones were pretty much identical in areas with decent to strong signal. The real difference I noticed was when signal was weaker. My AT&T version simply held the LTE steady when the T-Mobile would constantly switch back and forth. This is not to say that they were not receiving about the same bandwidth.
I am very interested in how the Note 4 does. I'm hoping to see a few more posts tonight about LTE performance before I hit the stores tomorrow to pick up either one based on the feedback from here.
Thanks for letting us know about how your's is handling!

done12many2 said:
I agree that the unlocked bootloader is a pretty big deal. Unfortunately the difference in LTE reception in my case warranted selling my T-Mobile version after comparing.
I should have mentioned that both phones were pretty much identical in areas with decent to strong signal. The real difference I noticed was when signal was weaker. My AT&T version simply held the LTE steady when the T-Mobile would constantly switch back and forth. This is not to say that they were not receiving about the same bandwidth.
I am very interested in how the Note 4 does. I'm hoping to see a few more posts tonight about LTE performance before I hit the stores tomorrow to pick up either one based on the feedback from here.
Thanks for letting us know about how your's is handling!
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Well I didn't see any additional posts before heading out to buy it this morning so I took a chance and got the T-Mobile variant. I'll provide feedback on AT&T LTE reception once I get my unlock code.
The wife wants a Note 4 as well so I'm probably going to pick up an AT&T variant and test them both for signal on AT&T's LTE network.

I got the unlock code in just over an hour and I'm up and running on AT&T's LTE!!
I'm pretty happy to report that it appears that the T-Mobile Note 4 is getting outstanding signal at my house and speeds are the same or better than the AT&T Note 3 right next to it.
The real test for me will be at the edge of AT&T LTE reception, which is where I was having issues with my T-Mobile Note 3. I wont know this until I go to work next Monday as my office is the perfect test for this.
Wireless Tether is completely unlocked with the T-Mobile Note 4 on AT&T's network without the requirement to root/mod as it was on the Note 3.

done12many2 said:
I got the unlock code in just over an hour and I'm up and running on AT&T's LTE!!
I'm pretty happy to report that it appears that the T-Mobile Note 4 is getting outstanding signal at my house and speeds are the same or better than the AT&T Note 3 right next to it.
The real test for me will be at the edge of AT&T LTE reception, which is where I was having issues with my T-Mobile Note 3. I wont know this until I go to work next Monday as my office is the perfect test for this.
Wireless Tether is completely unlocked with the T-Mobile Note 4 on AT&T's network without the requirement to root/mod as it was on the Note 3.
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Which service did you use for the unlock?

cellunlocker.net
It seems that they've fixed their issues as some are receiving their codes within minutes.

Yakuzahi said:
Which service did you use for the unlock?
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Hello,
How can you buy no-contract T-mobile Note 4
Thanks

jennyngo24 said:
Hello,
How can you buy no-contract T-mobile Note 4
Thanks
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You need to try, the store I will go to agree to sell it for me with no line.

Yakuzahi said:
You need to try, the store I will go to agree to sell it for me with no line.
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Thank you for your info.

What happened to the law that was just passed for Sim unlocking? TMO should give you an unlock code if you bought it outright.

Is anyone having signal issues?

I will be coming from a Note 3 which was perfect until the Kitkat update. I now have horrible signal and am sick of it. I live in a rural area and want to make sure the Note 4 does not have the same issues before I spend another $700 on a phone (I have unlimited data). Thanks!

murmur70 said:
I will be coming from a Note 3 which was perfect until the Kitkat update. I now have horrible signal and am sick of it. I live in a rural area and want to make sure the Note 4 does not have the same issues before I spend another $700 on a phone (I have unlimited data). Thanks!
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every phone is different since most of them have different CPU and antenna. it's too soon to tell though as most folks haven't even received their pre orders yet.

I have this question as well. I'll be coming from an S3, and it has terrible signal strength. It's the one thing that I've always hated about the S3. I'll be interested to see everyone's results.

My N3 had terrible reception, I moved to LG G3 which was much better. I switched to new N4 yesterday and this phone outperforms both on signal strength. I don't drop data or voice anywhere I used to with the previous 2 phones.

usmaak said:
I have this question as well. I'll be coming from an S3, and it has terrible signal strength. It's the one thing that I've always hated about the S3. I'll be interested to see everyone's results.
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I'm in the exact same position. I'm really hoping the N4 outperforms the S3.

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every phone is different since most of them have different CPU and antenna. it's too soon to tell though as most folks haven't even received their pre orders yet.
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Yes, I realize all of that. I just wanted to get the question out there.
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It is still early but initial impressions seem to be positive. I am fond of Motorola for their excellent radios. Coming from a moto x, I don't see any difference in signal. And comparing from my previous note 3, it seems to have improved in my area.
Worse case is that if it doesn't work well in your area, you should be able to return the phone and get something else without incurring a restocking fee. I was hesitant since I wanted to wait for the droid turbo but since playing with the note 4, I'm keeping it. Good luck.

Im having a few signal issues i only get 1 bar some places but it doesnt seem to affect call quality

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I will be coming from a Note 3 which was perfect until the Kitkat update. I now have horrible signal and am sick of it. I live in a rural area and want to make sure the Note 4 does not have the same issues before I spend another $700 on a phone (I have unlimited data). Thanks!
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I had a note 3 that held a LTE signal at 2 bars very well at my house until the 4.4.4 update, after that update it would be one 3g most of the time.
I got my note 4 yesterday and had it all day and it never once dropped to 3g, It held the LTE signal very well.
The note 4 is definitely better than the note 3 as far as signal quality.

I can verify this because I just bought a note 4 coming from a note 3. I was unable to get service in my house where I lived as well as many other places I should have. I bought the note 4 yesterday and all my service issues have been fixed. So yes the signal is much better.
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using note 4 today and best service i have had to date. phone has great dbm and first speedtest pulled 47 mbps download!!!

My Verizon N4 so far has slightly better signal than my LG G3, which had good service to begin with. No complaints so far with signal strength / net speed. So far my only complaint is the message + lag when taking a photo indoors. Reminds me of the annoying image stabilization option on the S5 that slowed the camera way down

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I will be coming from a Note 3 which was perfect until the Kitkat update. I now have horrible signal and am sick of it. I live in a rural area and want to make sure the Note 4 does not have the same issues before I spend another $700 on a phone (I have unlimited data). Thanks!
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This shouldn't be a concern on a different device, as Android isn't like Windows (in that a specific version is compatible on all PCs). The firmware (OS) on your device is tailor made for that device, and because of this, the concern you have about signal quality on the Note 4 vs the Note 3 isn't valid (not that it's not a valid concern, but that it doesn't apply). This is why you can't flash firmware from one model to a different model, and the only way for you to garnish an answer is by either speaking to someone in your area that has a Note 4 on VZW or buy a Note 4. I'm not sure if the Note 3 had the ability, but from the Note 4 settings it appears that you make Google Voice your default phone service... not just for dialing, but for receiving as well. I can't verify this, as I haven't tried it out yet, however it would help in your situation. As far as signal goes, I've had no issues with my Note 4 since buying it.
Something to consider... the Nexus 6 comes out next month and one of the unique features it has, over that of the bootloader being unlocked, is that is is the first smartphone with a hot swappable SIM... meaning you can buy it on Verizon and switch at random with other U.S. CDMA and GSM carriers by simply swapping SIMs. The only two differences between the Note 4 and the NX6 is the NX6 has a 13MP camera vs that of the 16MP on the Note 4 and it doesn't come with a S Pen (it also doesn't have the novelty features like a heartbeat monitor or UV exposure reader)... hardware is all the same, quad core 2.7Ghz processor, 3GB of RAM, rapid charge, etc. I'm assuming you have Verizon here, but you know you don't have to pay full retail upfront right? Because manufacturer's and carriers can't test for every variable, occasionally a firmware update will cause an issue with signal viability... have you informed Verizon of the issue, as well as made Samsung aware?
Something else to keep in mind... Android 5.0 [Lollipop] will be released to the Note 4 within a few months, and if you prefer a rooted device, then I would caution against buying anything other than the NX6, as it is highly improbable rooting will be possible on bootloader locked devices running Android 5... is it impossible, no; highly improbable, yes. Checkout ChainFire's Google+ post from 10/18 or 10/19 for an indepth explanation as to why.

This phone gets FANTASTIC reception! Better then iPhone 5 which dropped 4g all the time and better then even my Galaxy S5. MUCH better then the Note 3 which has about the same Signal issues as the iphone 6......

I have a iPhone 6plus and note 4 and my note isn't getting more then two bars when my iPhone is getting 4...could my phone be faulty?
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Thanks guys for the feedback. I understand that signal problems with one phone are unrelated to signal issues with another phone. I was just giving my background that I don't want to go down the road I have with the N3.
Asking about signal issues with the National is a valid question.
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