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Is there a reason for me to root? Everyone is talking greek to me I am a complete noob when it comes to this. I have tethered my phone with no problems, I'm not really interested in overclocking. So is there any reason at all I would want to go through the headache of trying to figure all this stuff out and root my phone?
One of the major reasons I root is so I can use custom roms, edited versions of the stock os, that are modified to include different features and improve the speed of the device, others love rooting for the ability to customize anything you want to.
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While all those are valid, none of those exist; and even the current Root is not NAND write enabled.
After seeing all the problems in rooting combined with threads regarding phones REALLY acting up after, I would say ... don't root unless and until you see a custom ROM you like.
Personally, anything Rooting would get me, FroYo will get me too; and while a faster custom FroYo would get my attention; Verizon WILL release Froyo in 2010 at some point. I'll be waiting.
jdmba said:
Personally, anything Rooting would get me, FroYo will get me too; and while a faster custom FroYo would get my attention; Verizon WILL release Froyo in 2010 at some point. I'll be waiting.
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Just don't hold your breath! On the WinMo side, at least, they're a few quarters behind the OS update schedule, mainly thanks to HTC's Sense(less)UI. Since we have a layer of HTC stuff on top of Android, you can expect to wait just as long for 2.2.
aaronjb said:
Just don't hold your breath! On the WinMo side, at least, they're a few quarters behind the OS update schedule, mainly thanks to HTC's Sense(less)UI. Since we have a layer of HTC stuff on top of Android, you can expect to wait just as long for 2.2.
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I'd bet we'll have a FroYo port waaay before VZ pushes it out over the air. I think (!) HTC's Software Quality Assurance is more thorough (and slower than) Google's Quality Assurance, or at least Google would rather push an update out with fewer features whereas HTC will wait for all features to work. AFAIK, VZ has very little to add or subtract to the mix -- how long does it take to recompile against a new framework and kernel?
superflysmith said:
Is there a reason for me to root? Everyone is talking greek to me I am a complete noob when it comes to this. I have tethered my phone with no problems, I'm not really interested in overclocking. So is there any reason at all I would want to go through the headache of trying to figure all this stuff out and root my phone?
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If you have to ask, then you truly shouldn't be rooting your phone.
seanmcd72 said:
If you have to ask, then you truly shouldn't be rooting your phone.
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I haven't been trying. Just trying to see if it's even worth trying to figure out. At this point I see nothing that would make me want to anyhow.
seanmcd72 said:
If you have to ask, then you truly shouldn't be rooting your phone.
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Shoot first, call Verizon Warrant Department is my motto
Why, indeed! What else is there to do but constantly trying to break your phone with new mods?
rynosaur said:
Shoot first, call Verizon Warrant Department is my motto
Why, indeed! What else is there to do but constantly trying to break your phone with new mods?
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I miss messing with stuff... i came from a G1 were i was running a different rom every 3 days it seemed like.. i was constantly messing with things with it just for ****s and giggles
I do feel really locked down with the incredible in knowing that i cant really mess with anything, the only thing ive been able to change is the boot screen and put the nexus animation on that instead of the stupid verizon symbol.
Too be honest though nothings even wrong with my phone whatsoever... the OS is perfectly fine and does everything i want it too, i cant really complain about anything with the software on it now... its just that want to customize thats driving my desire to root.. moreso then any actual need as everything works fine
The WiFi tether and lamppu was good enough for me now until we get custom roms
An even better title for this thread would be
"Why is this in 'Development' and not in 'General'?"
kentoe said:
The WiFi tether and lamppu was good enough for me now until we get custom roms
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I'm with you there, those dual LED's are serious.
KB Smoka said:
I'm with you there, those dual LED's are serious.
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Omfg I know, right? I flashed them in my eyes accidentally and I was like holy crap, blinded me for about a minute.
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An even better title for this thread would be
"Why is this in 'Development' and not in 'General'?"
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That would be a great title, you're right!!!
I got a froyo port going!
jdmba said:
While all those are valid, none of those exist; and even the current Root is not NAND write enabled.
After seeing all the problems in rooting combined with threads regarding phones REALLY acting up after, I would say ... don't root unless and until you see a custom ROM you like.
Personally, anything Rooting would get me, FroYo will get me too; and while a faster custom FroYo would get my attention; Verizon WILL release Froyo in 2010 at some point. I'll be waiting.
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I have released a froyo port method over at the "anyone want froyo" thread on the 8th page. I hope it helps anyone!
Joe92T said:
Too be honest though nothings even wrong with my phone whatsoever... the OS is perfectly fine and does everything i want it too, i cant really complain about anything with the software on it now... its just that want to customize thats driving my desire to root.. moreso then any actual need as everything works fine
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+1. There is not much that comes to mind with regard to things I'd like to improve with the DI. For example, the phone has more app storage than I could ever use, so there is no need for A2SD. And the processing speed is satisfying, so gaining OC'd kernel isn't a big priority. However, I simply miss being able to **** around with and compare various ROM's and mods, even if they are unneccessary on this device.
I have no real reason to root just yet, well then again I'm totally new to android, so I'm not exactly sure what rooting entails. All I want is stock 2.2 froyo, the day that is ported over to our phone is the day I will be rooted.
Can't wait..
kentoe said:
The WiFi tether and lamppu was good enough for me now until we get custom roms
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i agree, the wifi tether is what made me root now rather than later.
HELP..Will my 16gb card work?
if i go buy a 2gb card to root my phone can i use my 16gb when im done rooting or am i stuck with the 2gb?
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if i go buy a 2gb card to root my phone can i use my 16gb when im done rooting or am i stuck with the 2gb?
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Absolutely....just need the POS 2GB to get ADB going.
Is there a simple Root for the AT&T S3 that ONLY roots the phone, changes not a damn thing, will not lose apps installed already, not lose ANY function at all, and I mean nothing what so ever? Too many things I see says, Root works fine, but you might lose this or that even if its an obscure function...I want to leave at least for now my phone fully stock but rooted with a 99.9% chance of nothing going wrong or changed , like a 1 click.... Heh am I asking for too much?
What you are looking for is out there, however its not exactly 1 click. Also, there is always a risk when rooting your phone so keep that in mind. I would suggest reading as much as you can before jumping into anything. There are a lot of very helpful threads here, you just have to invest the time. Trust me, its better to feel confident when working on our phones, rather than brick a $600 phone! Good luck to you!
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I would take a look at this if I were you,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746665
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Look for flash/non-trip
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Look for flash/non-trip
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You can easily root without deleting anything. mrRobinson put together a nice guide that will grant root access without tripping your flash counter. However, even if you do trip the counter, there is now a way to reset it.
here is the thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426
Ok thx, I was half joking with the 1 click, but would be nice , heh...
For a short bit I had a loaner Captivate so I put 2-3 different ROMs on there (Serenity was my fav) and messed with it a bit, but I had little fear as if I killed it , it was not a big deal, but this is the only Android experience I have, was rocking a iphone 3gs before the S3...
So do you think the mrrobinson method is the best/easiest or get the toolkit and use that for what Im trying to do right now? Im happy with how it is and Im sure I will mess with ROMs once the newness wears off, but for now just want to root to put Titanium on there and maybe get Google Wallet working as well.
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Ok thx, I was half joking with the 1 click, but would be nice , heh...
For a short bit I had a loaner Captivate so I put 2-3 different ROMs on there (Serenity was my fav) and messed with it a bit, but I had little fear as if I killed it , it was not a big deal, but this is the only Android experience I have, was rocking a iphone 3gs before the S3...
So do you think the mrrobinson method is the best/easiest or get the toolkit and use that for what Im trying to do right now? Im happy with how it is and Im sure I will mess with ROMs once the newness wears off, but for now just want to root to put Titanium on there and maybe get Google Wallet working as well.
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yes i think it'd be the easiest for you and won't touch anything you've setup. Just flash the file in ODIN and you're set.
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So do you think the mrrobinson method is the best/easiest....... but for now just want to root to put Titanium on there and maybe get Google Wallet working as well.
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I too, don't want custom ROM yet.Yeah, this how I got mine rooted, every thing STOCK. Then got Tibu and G_wallet. :good:
Thanks to mrRobinson who made this possible :highfive:
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I too, don't want custom ROM yet.Yeah, this how I got mine rooted, every thing STOCK. Then got Tibu and G_wallet. :good:
Thanks to mrRobinson who made this possible :highfive:
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I did this once I got home yesterday, worked like a charm with no issues, got titanium installed and working, now to mess with GW...Thx for the replies guys
Odin- / heimdall-free root
I just wanted to share that Noxious Ninja's Verizon Odin-Less method worked perfectly well on my AT&T phone. I have a Mac and Heimdall doesn't yet work on the SGS3, and I was having trouble getting my hands on a PC. This method required no flashing of any kind (although the first thing I did after getting root was flash CWM recovery and CyanogenMod.) Just needed to input the various shell commands by hand because obviously the .bat file didn't run on OS X.
Here is the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1792342
Just got my Nexus 7 today. Been a root user since HTC desire (still use it, even though I've been through One X and others..)
I know the pros of being rooted, but why should I root my Nexus 7 when it's a pure google device already? Are there any significant changes in the ROMs that diff from the official KitKat 4.4?
I'm not searching for an angry argument, would just like to know if there is much for me to benefit from rooting now, at the moment. And, I'm sure someone will ask; I do everyday tasks, but am very curious to geeky stuff and all that.. but, a side from that, is it worth rooting?!
Thanks!
Titanium Backup.
For me it's worth rooting even only for this single app.
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Titanium Backup.
For me it's worth rooting even only for this single app.
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And Adfree! I've never installed any fully custom roms, just left them standard but rooted, on all the Androids I've had. On my first one, a Xoom, I did install another rom, but only because someone produced a nice 'standard' one, with just overclocking added.
Ah yeah completely forgot it, first thing to install. Though i'm using AdAway.
Also FasterFix.
I couldn't use Android without these 3.
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Ah yeah completely forgot it, first thing to install. Though i'm using AdAway.
Also FasterFix.
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Does fasterfix help the GPS lock time if you're not using the other google location services?
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Does fasterfix help the GPS lock time if you're not using the other google location services?
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Sorry i dont understand your question, anyway FasterFix improve gps lock time.
Well its not all ad free, that depends on what apps your running.. And, still; pretty obvious reasons, but I agree. Oh well, guess I just root the anyway, since I know I'm going to do it at some point.. Just need to play with it for a while and find a absolute awesome ROM first.. I would still appreciate other good 'whys' though!
If you think you are going to want root do it now before you get to far into setting your tablet up. Rooting the N7 requires unlocking the device and well reset the device.
fasthair
Root because its a Nexus...a toy that needs to used to its full potential and for root apps we need and love, I also need a kernel that I can customise with trickster mod to increase sound and just generally tweak!
deud said:
Just got my Nexus 7 today. Been a root user since HTC desire (still use it, even though I've been through One X and others..)
I know the pros of being rooted, but why should I root my Nexus 7 when it's a pure google device already? Are there any significant changes in the ROMs that diff from the official KitKat 4.4?
I'm not searching for an angry argument, would just like to know if there is much for me to benefit from rooting now, at the moment. And, I'm sure someone will ask; I do everyday tasks, but am very curious to geeky stuff and all that.. but, a side from that, is it worth rooting?!
Thanks!
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Yeah, true. But I don't mind full wipes/resets that much.. Kind of used to it! I realize now this topic maybe was a little unnecessary, since I AM going to root at some point.. Got a bit carried away here, blown by the sweetness of N7! So I figured 'why root?!', but I ain't foolin' no one, I will root, haha.. Any ROMs that are specifically better?! I like pure Android, fast 'n stable..
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I mean; **** is lightening fast as it is already! Great hell, I'm amazed by this machine..
You can use Stock and Root it.
Hey,
Does towelroot work with the Tab S?
Thanks
whoisjlk said:
Hey,
Does towelroot work with the Tab S?
Thanks
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Nope, just restarts the device.
Nope..Its just restarts the device
dang - do you think we'll get a root?
People JUST WAIT!
Just relax and wait for a reliable dev to announce root. Stop chasing these rainbows unless you want to own a shiny new $500 paperweight. And yeah, the wrong root WILL brick your rig.
Just wait.
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Just relax and wait for a reliable dev to announce root. Stop chasing these rainbows unless you want to own a shiny new $500 paperweight. And yeah, the wrong root WILL brick your rig.
Just wait.
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Towelroot should absolutely work with the Tab S. We just need to find the correct modstring that will work. When I receive mine on Wednesday, I'll start working on root.
And it will not completely brick. If it doesn't work with towelroot the tab will just restart. EVEN if it soft bricks you can reset with Odin.
Excited
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Towelroot should absolutely work with the Tab S. We just need to find the correct modstring that will work. When I receive mine on Wednesday, I'll start working on root.
And it will not completely brick. If it doesn't work with towelroot the tab will just restart. EVEN if it soft bricks you can reset with Odin.
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Famous last words. As for me I'll wait for a certified xda dev to post root and anyone who is smart should do the same.
wix256 said:
Towelroot should absolutely work with the Tab S. We just need to find the correct modstring that will work. When I receive mine on Wednesday, I'll start working on root.
And it will not completely brick. If it doesn't work with towelroot the tab will just restart. EVEN if it soft bricks you can reset with Odin.
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Tried TowelRoot today on Tab S at BestBuy it just restarted. Then I bought one
If you're brave enough with tripping KNOX, you may request ChainFire to make one.
Funny thing, I dreamt last night I tried a towelroot modstring and it worked! Lol. I want root though, Knox or no knox, it's usually 5th first thing I do with my devices and I feel so limited now without it. No titanium backup, no Tasker etc. I don't need custom roms, I just need root to customize my tablet!
Had there been any progress on this? I know we have root but this doesn't trip Knox (supposedly)
nothing yet and although i dont care about knox i do like updates and until i see some more devs active for my 10.5 i am hesitant to go the other route. i really just want root to have Xposed and a few apps that i havent missed enough yet to make the move.
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nothing yet and although i dont care about knox i do like updates and until i see some more devs active for my 10.5 i am hesitant to go the other route. i really just want root to have Xposed and a few apps that i havent missed enough yet to make the move.
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Same here. I'm hoping we get some themes going too!
Have an iPad Air, bought Tab S 8.4 as a trial run for two weeks. Besides not being able to root (without tripping knox), this tablet is amazing. The screen destroys the Air IMO. I was worried about them going with their in house processor, but after using it next to the iPad Air, I can say with confidence this tablet has power. I am shocked though, coming from ios to Android to see google locking things down so much. I hope someone roots this fine device without tripping knox, because I will gladly keep it and sell my ipad. Love the XDA Devs!!
ps: either way, I have to return this unit, as it is suffering slightly from the heat warp flaw.
Any devs actively working on this?
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Any devs actively working on this?
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i dont believe so. i think the only way it would happen is if someone got geohot a device to work on in person.
I just rooted my SM-T705. Tripped knox. Dont Care. Im happy.
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i dont believe so. i think the only way it would happen is if someone got geohot a device to work on in person.
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Any news?
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Any news?
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Can anyone give me their opinions rooting right away vs waiting? I'm coming from a 2 generation ago HTC with root and unlocked bootloader, s-off. I'd hate to delay rooting but I'm wondering how things have gone lately in the Samsung world.
-If I wait, will there likely be another method of rooting that would somehow be better than Chainfire's current method? (Won't trip knox or void warranty or something along those lines)?
-Would I be better off taking any OTA's that are available upon getting the phone before rooting or could those OTA's prevent root if I take them?
Any other reason why someone might delay rooting?
I personally probably will root it if a method is available (haven't verified yet.)
Primary reason being is to make transferring from my previous phone a lot less painless with titanium backup.
Or maybe I won't, because it won't be long before I'd want to flash a custom debloated rom.
Decisions decisions...
the only reason to wait is you want to maintain your warranty. If you pretty good with figuring out issues, it may not be an issue.
Me, 99% I'm not waiting. If I have time, it''ll be one of the first things I do. If not, I'll do it following day.
I enjoy Samsung devices but they usually leave me no choice but to root to remove some of the bloat that I don't really want. So for me it will happen once a cf auto root occurs!
There is no root for sprint yet. Big freaking bummer.
I wouldn't worry about that at all. Chainfire has already released CF Root for like seven different models of the Note 4 - Exynos and Snapdragon models. I would give it a day or a few after official release of our Note 4 until we have root.
And anyways back to the OP - I will be rooting as soon as I get my phone and charge it to full haha. I'm going to need to erase like a million apk's from /system to get rid of plenty of the carrier and Samsung bloat.
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Bah to root, im going to be busy working on recovery, to me thats far more important
as much as im gonna hate moving to a new device not having root i think i am going to hold off on root till a method that does not trip knox is introduced. Or a way to use the samsung dongle with knox tripped is introduced. I don't care about warranty but the limit to use accessories is a game stopper for me. I mean with knox flag stop the VR glasses from working. to many unknowns right now.
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Bah to root, im going to be busy working on recovery, to me thats far more important
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Does that mean we can expect some custom ROMs from you?
Not too shabby
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... a way to use the samsung dongle with knox tripped is introduced. ... but the limit to use accessories is a ... with knox flag stop the VR glasses from working ...
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It that really true. If the knox is trigger using accessories such as the VR or Galaxy Gear watches won't work? What the heck? I thought knox was introduced by corporate people to have a more secure phone. Although the rooted use is a small portion of people, just seen short sighted to me.
I just rooted everything works good so far, used t-mobile's root with no issues.
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I just rooted everything works good so far, used t-mobile's root with no issues.
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anyone else?
lovekeiiy said:
It that really true. If the knox is trigger using accessories such as the VR or Galaxy Gear watches won't work? What the heck? I thought knox was introduced by corporate people to have a more secure phone. Although the rooted use is a small portion of people, just seen short sighted to me.
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It is for corporate security, not sure where he got all that "additional" info from.
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anyone else?
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I second this. I used T Mobile's root From Chainfire with no problems. All root apps work great. Everything works as it should.
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Confirmed. The root located below seems to work on our Sprint phones.
http://download.chainfire.eu/571/CF-Root/CF-Auto-Root-trltetmo-trltetmo-smn910t.zip
I'm hoping I can download the full ROM before I start whacking up my system.
So I imagine this root method will trip knox right?
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So I imagine this root method will trip knox right?
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Yes
you dont say ???
shanda5303 said:
I just rooted everything works good so far, used t-mobile's root with no issues.
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And which model is your note ??
Successfully rooted on the sprint note 4 using the tmobile auto root!
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I just rooted everything works good so far, used t-mobile's root with no issues.
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Yep, works fine. TB is restoring my apps as I type this. Just choose "Normal" for SuperSU to update the binary. Don't forget to install the FixSD app to allow the correct writing permissions that they talk about in the T-Mobile forum.