Screen always on in AMBIENT MODE - Moto 360

is there any way to keep screen ALWAYS ON in ambient mode ???

No, but why would you want to. It's on when you look at it.

Faspaiso said:
No, but why would you want to. It's on when you look at it.
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Got the "interactive watchfaces" (LCA44B) update yesterday. Ever since then ambient screen is always on. Which really irritates me. I have to agree, no need to stay on if I'm not looking at it. Anyone with the same issue after the update?

Faspaiso said:
No, but why would you want to. It's on when you look at it.
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I can't tell if people who say this are just really forgiving or liars.

thebobmannh said:
I can't tell if people who say this are just really forgiving or liars.
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Well explain. If Ambient Screen is on, but watch is ON EVERY time I look at it. A thing I don't understand tho, is that while it's a LCD display, it saves zero power by making half the screen black with digital clock on so many watchfaces.

Faspaiso said:
Well explain. If Ambient Screen is on, but watch is ON EVERY time I look at it. A thing I don't understand tho, is that while it's a LCD display, it saves zero power by making half the screen black with digital clock on so many watchfaces.
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I've played with ambient mode, and I can conclusively say that my watch face is not "on" EVERY time I look at it. Not even close. I work at a computer all day, if I glance down at my watch while it's in ambient mode, it isn't on. I drive, and I look at my wrist, and my watch is often NOT on. I understand that it turns on more easily and tries to anticipate hwen you're trying to look at your watch, but if you're casually glancing at the watch hoping it's on (rather than moving your wrist), it's often off. That's not ambient, it's just.... more sensitive.
As for your second question, only certain LCD technologies can leverage making "half the screen black" as a power-saving measure. Basically... most LCDs still use a single light source, so regardless of how much of the screen is black, the backlight is fully on. Some LCD technologies have the ability to turn on smaller backlights directly behind certain parts of the screen, so lighting only a small area of the screen is possible and saves a lot of power. I don't know enough about the technologies to know why, aside from cost, one would choose one over the other.

princehpk said:
is there any way to keep screen ALWAYS ON in ambient mode ???
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Go to android wear and settings/moto 360 and click on ambient screen on and tilt to wake screen to off. This will keep ambient on all the time. The only down side is that you will have to manually click the screen or the power button to go to full screen. I hope that helps
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wuilly said:
Go to android wear and settings/moto 360 and click on ambient screen on and tilt to wake screen to off. This will keep ambient on all the time. The only down side is that you will have to manually click the screen or the power button to go to full screen. I hope that helps
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I already knew this but decided to give you a thanks since no one else has and you correctly answered the question along with how to activate it.

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Showing the time even when the phone is off like on the nokia lumia?

I was told that amoled displays have no problem (and doesn't take much energy) to show for example the time even when the phone is on stanbdy.
Would be pretty cool to have all black screen and just the time in white when the phone is on standby.
Is there something that does that already?
Fking1 said:
I was told that amoled displays have no problem (and doesn't take much energy) to show for example the time even when the phone is on stanbdy.
Would be pretty cool to have all black screen and just the time in white when the phone is on standby.
Is there something that does that already?
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On my SGS2 I use to use an app called noled free from market. It used to display the time on my dimmed lock screen but only when I got a notification. You could download it and just see if the option is there to show the clock all the time. Hope this helps a bit
Yes it does but only on dimmed display, i want something to show it when the display is off. From what i understood amoled can light only certain pixels up. And that way show the time on turned off display using power just for the pixels it uses to show the time.
Fking1 said:
Yes it does but only on dimmed display, i want something to show it when the display is off. From what i understood amoled can light only certain pixels up. And that way show the time on turned off display using power just for the pixels it uses to show the time.
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Cool, if you get it sorted would you mind sharing what you did? I would like that feature too.
Sure
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Would appreciate some more input on that
Would love this....I am gonna go home and tinker with NoLED today...
You can do this with NoLEd.
Just go through the options.
Remember to enable NoLed from: settings/Accessibility
My only thing is it keeps the soft buttons on when it is displaying the time
works for me in 'test' mode, but outside that, no luck.
and yes in the test mode, soft keys are still shown ...
versd said:
works for me in 'test' mode, but outside that, no luck.
and yes in the test mode, soft keys are still shown ...
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Go to accessibility and turn it on
Doesn't the way noled keeps the screen dimmed kills your battery super fast?

[Q] Dimming Screen with Palm Not Working?

Anybody else having issues when placing your palm over the screen to dim it? It should turn the screen off and vibrate. I think I only saw that happen once, but I can't seem to get that to work.
Can somebody try it and tell me if it works for you all the time, some of the time, or rarely to never?
Thanks.
I got it working if I turn off the ambient screen setting on the device. You can also use the button too.
Ambient Screen Off
kpjimmy said:
I got it working if I turn off the ambient screen setting on the device. You can also use the button too.
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Yup, I tried with both, ambient screen on and ambient screen off. No luck. Yeah, I guess I'll just have to use the button, seems faster anyway, or wait until it turns itself off. I guess I was just concerned my ambient light sensor might be defective, haven't had the chance to see if auto-brightness works correctly since it has been raining and cloudy outside and light indoors generally keeps it mid-brightness.
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Yup, I tried with both, ambient screen on and ambient screen off. No luck. Yeah, I guess I'll just have to use the button, seems faster anyway, or wait until it turns itself off. I guess I was just concerned my ambient light sensor might be defective, haven't had the chance to see if auto-brightness works correctly since it has been raining and cloudy outside and light indoors generally keeps it mid-brightness.
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Did you go to the android wear app and turn off ambient screen? I assume so. Mine turns "off" when I either "palm" it or push the button. I left the ambient screen sensor on and it still turned off for me.
Make sure your palm is touching the screen. If you're just cupping your hand over the screen, it won't work. It's not a "oh, it just turned dark" thing, but more of a "oh, my entire surface is being touched at once" thing.
Touch Screen Palm
jt3 said:
Make sure your palm is touching the screen. If you're just cupping your hand over the screen, it won't work. It's not a "oh, it just turned dark" thing, but more of a "oh, my entire surface is being touched at once" thing.
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Thank you very much, that was it. It works now, operator error.

Do you manually change brightness a lot?

With most Android Wear watches lacking an ambient light sensor, this Huawei one included, I'm wondering if you often have to manually adjust brightness, either not to be blinded at night, or to actually see the screen in daylight.
As far as I understand, an awake watch will get brighter, and ambient mode will be darker. There's also the double and triple crown clicks for theater (screen off) and sunlight (brighter) modes. And things like Display Brightness for Wear, or through AutoWear for finer grained and somewhat automated results.
And that's what I'm really wondering: if I can get a satisfying custom behaviour through AutoWear, by slices of day time (eg, brightest at noon, and progressively darker as night approaches), that'd be fine enough to me. But if I constantly have to adjust things manually, I fear that would quickly become annoying (I can spend a lot of energy tweaking automation to ensure I can be as lazy as can be afterwards ).
Do you choose a middle ground brightness setting and are fine with it most of the time, except when you rarely have to double or triple crown click? Do you find yourself manually adjusting brightness a few times a day? Do you constantly fiddle with brightness settings?
I don't touch it at all. I have it set to 4 and could even get away with 3 if I want. When you need a brightness boost just hit the crown three times and you're set.
I missed it greatly from my urbane, so I went back to it.
suzook said:
I missed it greatly from my urbane, so I went back to it.
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Uh? Missed what? The Urbane has no ambient light sensor either, does it?
noraef said:
Uh? Missed what? The Urbane has no ambient light sensor either, does it?
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UH! Yeah it does! Its by the lugs.
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by the lugs
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You're speaking of the two holes for the mic? Anyway, I'm not intested in the Urbane at all, so it's completely off topic.
What I'm interested in is how often do people with the Huawei watch feel the need to manually change brightness settings.
Crown
So, by hitting the crown three times, the brightness goes up one level?
Also, is the crown button function behavior customizable?
Thanks!
atoy74 said:
I don't touch it at all. I have it set to 4 and could even get away with 3 if I want. When you need a brightness boost just hit the crown three times and you're set.
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gaikokujin said:
So, by hitting the crown three times, the brightness goes up one level?
Also, is the crown button function behavior customizable?
Thanks!
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It actually goes to max brightness only until the screen goes back to sleep.
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atoy74 said:
It actually goes to max brightness only until the screen goes back to sleep.
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I see, thanks.
I don't change it often at all. Most of the time 2 or 3 has been plenty bright for me, and the triple click to up it a bit works pretty well...
noraef said:
You're speaking of the two holes for the mic? Anyway, I'm not intested in the Urbane at all, so it's completely off topic.
What I'm interested in is how often do people with the Huawei watch feel the need to manually change brightness settings.
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Have the watch since tuesday ("Active", ie black, with single layer leather) And I agree: most of the time, 2 or 3 are enough. 1 is actually even too bright to me at night, especially since I'm seemingly unable to have ambient brightness get as low as how bright it is awake at 1 (is ambient brightness level fixed?).
Under direct sunlight, it's not always that easy to see even with the bright 3-click sunlight mode. But generally, twisting my wrist a little to avoid direct reflections, or at worst covering it a bit with my other hand, is enough.
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Have the watch since tuesday ("Active", ie black, with single layer leather) And I agree: most of the time, 2 or 3 are enough. 1 is actually even too bright to me at night, especially since I'm seemingly unable to have ambient brightness get as low as how bright it is awake at 1 (is ambient brightness level fixed?).
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Ambient mode brightness is not configurable on the watch, but certain 3rd-party watchfaces offer this setting. I'm using Skymaster and it offers different brightness for ambient mode.
agentdr8 said:
Ambient mode brightness is not configurable on the watch, but certain 3rd-party watchfaces offer this setting. I'm using Skymaster and it offers different brightness for ambient mode.
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Does that setting only apply to the actual watch face, or to the whole display? I've managed to make it dimmer with a partially transparent black layer in WatchMaker, but it doesn't apply to cards previews, or icons such as mute...
SWapp True Dark allows for actually adjusting the brightness of the whole ambient display, which is already great, but I'd rather have that manageable through Tasker (to have it auto adjust by time of the day). Have asked João if this could be implemented in AutoWear, so maybe it'll end up manageable through that.
Seems quite crazy to me this setting is not available by default. Reminds me, even though I think Android is the best OS of its kind, how lame I find it without the truckload of customization I lay over it...
I have 8 days ago my Huawei SW. It's my first SmartWatch and I'm really disappointed not to do anything with Tasker and Android Wear to adjust brightness to my liking clock automatically.
On the day I need more brightness when I'm out and at night the minimum brightness of the screen saver is very strong.
The bothers me most at the moment is so intense brightness of screen saver at night. No achievement make it more tenuous. Anyone know if there is any app that you can do?
Hopefully one of the experts and boys of this site something to be developed further manipulate Androi tasker and wear.
I've been using Display Brightness for Wear. It allows for different brightness settings for day and night in different situations. I wish it was more customizable or there were some ways to control brightness with tasker. Unfortunately, I've been unable to find those.
Autowear just needs to be able to receive a message that ambient is selected. It thinks the watch is off instead of in ambient. Frankly, though, SWapp does what I need. I also use WatchMaker faces and customize the dim mode to my liking.
i use Wear Mini Launcher and have it set to show the widgets before the apps, so one swipe to the right gets me a brightness slider. Its very each to adjust this way. With Wear Mini Launcher I can also quickly set my phone to silent/vibrate mode, turn on flashlight, ping the phone even if the phone is on vibrate, etc
brizey said:
Autowear just needs to be able to receive a message that ambient is selected. It thinks the watch is off instead of in ambient. Frankly, though, SWapp does what I need. I also use WatchMaker faces and customize the dim mode to my liking.
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maximus96 said:
i use Wear Mini Launcher and have it set to show the widgets before the apps, so one swipe to the right gets me a brightness slider. Its very each to adjust this way. With Wear Mini Launcher I can also quickly set my phone to silent/vibrate mode, turn on flashlight, ping the phone even if the phone is on vibrate, etc
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atoy74 said:
I don't touch it at all. I have it set to 4 and could even get away with 3 if I want. When you need a brightness boost just hit the crown three times and you're set.
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wait...WAT?! i've never known this...btw it doesn't work with Android Wear 2.0 preview 2
I've thought of something somewhat cool but I'm no developer.
What if we can use our cellphone's ambient light sensor to sync with the watch so that the watch can get both bright and/or dim when needed?
Theoretically this will function correctly if your phone isn't in your pocket all the time.
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Ambient Mode/Always On Behavior?

Can anyone help confirm if they see this behavior with their watch? I have always-on screen set to ON in the Android Wear app. (Tilt to wake and gestures are both OFF.) I have noticed that even on the stock Moon Phase face, if I don't touch the face for a while, the watch goes to sleep. By that I mean, the face is completely black, as if I turned off the always-on screen option.
I haven't determined yet if it's always after a specific amount of time. Seems to be at least 30 min, maybe an hour.
Is this normal behavior? I was under the impression that always on means always on, And that time in dim mode would always show.
You are correct.
bailyc said:
Can anyone help confirm if they see this behavior with their watch? I have always-on screen set to ON in the Android Wear app. (Tilt to wake and gestures are both OFF.) I have noticed that even on the stock Moon Phase face, if I don't touch the face for a while, the watch goes to sleep. By that I mean, the face is completely black, as if I turned off the always-on screen option.
I haven't determined yet if it's always after a specific amount of time. Seems to be at least 30 min, maybe an hour.
Is this normal behavior? I was under the impression that always on means always on, And that time in dim mode would always show.
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You are correct, always on means always on, the only time the watch should sleep, is when you have it on the charger. You may have a bad install or worst case scenario a bad watch.
vvveith said:
You are correct, always on means always on, the only time to watch should sleep, is when you have it on the charger. You may have a bad install or worst case scenario a bad watch.
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Ok, thanks for confirming! I definitely have something wrong, then. I've factory reset several times and even taken off most apps, and it still happens. Looks like it might be the watch.
I have similar problem - always ON, gestures off, but after about 10 seconds it changes watchface to some dark/black one.
I believe the Always on Feature is not for having your watch face on all the time, but rather it dims your watch face but you still can tell the time with just the darker screen. It's not going to keep your watch face fully lit if that option is turned on.
Well, then I`m selling mine. Why would I want all them beautiful watchfaces if I can`t have them always on?! That`s just stupid.
rbs_uk said:
Well, then I`m selling mine. Why would I want all them beautiful watchfaces if I can`t have them always on?! That`s just stupid.
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Most of the folks that make the WatchMaker faces either just dim the face, or they make a dimmed mode face that looks like it has phosphorous markings. I personally make custom dimmed modes. My favorite method is to make a blood red version of the face with just the essential features. The moon phase ones can look BAD ASS with the blood red moon phase on a pure black background. This is the only watch I have ever actually gotten comments on in public. When people see it they notice that it ain't no normal watch, and it ain't no Apple watch.
rbs_uk said:
Well, then I`m selling mine. Why would I want all them beautiful watchfaces if I can`t have them always on?! That`s just stupid.
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I think the battery life would just be too short if you left the face on all the time, all the time meaning the watch never went into dim mode. Just run tilt on, and don't wear the watch to loose. Especially at night if the watch never dimmed that would get annoying as hell it's so bright.
'god guys, really????
rbs_uk said:
I have similar problem - always ON, gestures off, but after about 10 seconds it changes watchface to some dark/black one.
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Come on guys you do understand ambient mode right? When the main screen of the watch face shuts down it goes into ambient mode, which is simply black and white. Just like any pure android device. (i.e. Nexus 6) If you do not understand of know of this behaviour please stop posting and do some research. 'The watch is acting as it is suppose to in Android Wear. Just like notifications on a Nexus device. Google is your friend.
So is YouTube and understanding the android system as of today. Come on, get a clue.
Yeah I think if it was on all the time you'd be lucky to get even a few hours of battery life out of it....
falcon26 said:
Yeah I think if it was on all the time you'd be lucky to get even a few hours of battery life out of it....
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Well, I know what I personally thought was confusing is that "always on" isn't actually always on when charging. When on the charger, display turns off completely after a time. That's different behavior from what I'm used to based on the Moto X, which has AMOLED and still displayed ambient information on the screen when charging/docked. I find it a little odd that there is no built-in charging/docked display that uses the ambient (dimmed) display mode.
But to be sure, my watch definitely had something wrong with it. I just received a replacement unit yesterday, so I'll be testing it out today to see if it's able to stay dimmed as it should when off the charger.
Be attencion with "always on" mode, this is screen after four days (contrast on level 3).
I've had the "Ranger" watch face on with a full colour ambient mode and not experiencing any burn-in. Every minute it shifts the image somewhat in order to reduce any burn in effect. See https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co.smartwatchface.watch.face.ranger.military .
Just to cease any confusion. Always On means the screen is always on. After a few seconds, the screen will dim and go into a black/white ambient mode to reserve power.
The OP says his screen is turning completely off. So it seems there is a problem there. Every Watch face has a different ambient mode. Perhaps the one you are using has a broken ambient mode and not displaying data.
I found the best way to make a watch face is to build one yourself. Purje Black is awesome for this (truely amazing app). I am not going to do a full review but the transition between full on and ambient mode is animated, looks fantastic, has lots of Hotspots to launch various apps like weather, Google Fit data, etc, and displays it in a awesome format.
But the best feature is that you can customize the ambient mode separately from the actual face. They also support community made themes, so just browse their Google Plus theme page, find one you like, customize it to how you want it and save it.
Just be careful with your AMOLED screen that you don't have any information that is static in ambient mode, like numbers, hour marks, etc. I prefer a Digital clock/Calendar date on my Amoled, but have a nice looking analog with various information on my full face.
The device going to sleep is normal. It will go from full on to ambient mode and from there if the watch isn't moved for 30 minutes it will shut the screen off. See below from Google.
"You can set the display to show the time or turn off completely when you're not using the watch. If set to turn off, the screen will turn on when you turn your wrist or touch the screen.*
Tip: Letting your screen turn off when you're not using the watch will help improve battery life. If the watch hasn't moved for 30 minutes, the screen will turn off even if you have it set to remain always on. To wake your watch, tilt it or press the power button."
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Hi
I'm trying to find an App for my watch that will keep the Watchface in Ambient mode for as long as i like (more than 24Hrs) even when it's not on my hand (not being moved).
Any ideas would be appretiated.
ausi said:
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I'm trying to find an App for my watch that will keep the Watchface in Ambient mode for as long as i like (more than 24Hrs) even when it's not on my hand (not being moved).
Any ideas would be appretiated.
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First off between the battery hit and possible screen damage I wouldn't recommend that. But I haven't seen any faces or apps that would accomplish this. And since that feature is inherent to wear it would probably take root to accomplish it anyway.
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crawrj said:
First off between the battery hit and possible screen damage I wouldn't recommend that. But I haven't seen any faces or apps that would accomplish this. And since that feature is inherent to wear it would probably take root to accomplish it anyway.
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Thanks, i have root..........but still cannot find an App to do this, i still would like to try.
Ho about limiting brightness to lower level than level 1. While I,m not using watch, just before it goes to ambient, I can See brightness dimmed to lower than minimum and after, ambient turns on, whitch is brighter. What can i do to use lowest levels all the time?
Stay Lit Wear
In case you haven't found it yet, search Google Play for "Stay Lit Wear."

Ambient Display No longer Continuously Flashes

Has anyone noticed that ambient display lights up upon receiving a notification but does not continue to flash like it did on previous nexus? Also it does not flash on upon picking up the device.....
I have ambient display turned on but to be honest I'm not sure my notifications even show once but I'm certain they don't show again.
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Came to post this myself. It looks like Ambient Display pops up when you get the notification then never again.
Coming from Moto Display, super disappointed. I was prepared to give up the "wave" to trigger IR sensors and pulse my notifications... I wasn't prepared to give up the feature all together!
Running into the same thing. The ambient display should flash the time, date etc when picking up the phone . Maybe just a late software bug?
Not sure how many others have seen this yet...Notification LED. Mine is getting delivered today so I haven't been able to play around with it yet. It might help with the ambient display issue.
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.andr...otification-light?client=ms-android-sprint-us
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Not sure how many others have seen this yet...Notification LED. Mine is getting delivered today so I haven't been able to play around with it yet. It might help with the ambient display issue.
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.andr...otification-light?client=ms-android-sprint-us
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Unfortunately that doesnt help
The display turns on it uses the battery.
I hope they never "fix" it.
I pickup the device right hand let my finger touch the finger print sensor if I want to see the display.
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The display turns on it uses the battery.
I hope they never "fix" it.
I pickup the device right hand let my finger touch the finger print sensor if I want to see the display.
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That is an argument for disabling Ambient Display. Not for hoping that Ambient Display doesn't work like it's supposed to in the first place.
Celeras said:
That is an argument for disabling Ambient Display. Not for hoping that Ambient Display doesn't work like it's supposed to in the first place.
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Right and I say three things.
1) Why when you lift it is it supposed to turn on ? Did Google ever say? When you pickup you phone the Display should turn on, because we know you careless about battery life.
2) When you pick up you phone why is it so hard to brush your finger on the finger print scanner if you want to display on ?
3) You think every time the phone moves and the display turns on it is not going to use more current, drain the battery ?
If Google ever allows you to turn on the display with just movement picking the phone up.
I hope Google allows people that think 2) and 3) are true to keep this "feature off"
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Right and I say three things.
1) Why when you lift it is it supposed to turn on ? Did Google ever say? When you pickup you phone the Display should turn on, because we know you careless about battery life.
2) When you pick up you phone why is it so hard to brush your finger on the finger print scanner if you want to display on ?
3) You think every time the phone moves and the display turns on it is not going to use more current, drain the battery ?
If Google ever allows you to turn on the display with just movement picking the phone up.
I hope Google allows people that think 2) and 3) are true to keep this "feature off"
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I'll try to spell it out for you since you apparently lack the capacity to do it yourself.
Ambient Display currently does nothing. It flashes once and is gone forever, which is completely useless. You LIKE it doing nothing. Fine. Then you can turn it off and it will still do nothing. You are happy either way.
There are people who like Ambient Display when it actually works. These people are not happy that it doesn't currently do anything. If it is fixed, then they are happy. If it is fixed, you can disable it, and you are still happy because you weren't getting anything from it in the first place.
Your twisted desire to hope something doesn't work because you don't like it is asinine.
Have a good day.
Celeras said:
I'll try to spell it out for you since you apparently lack the capacity to do it yourself.
Ambient Display currently does nothing. It flashes once and is gone forever, which is completely useless. You LIKE it doing nothing. Fine. Then you can turn it off and it will still do nothing. You are happy either way.
There are people who like Ambient Display when it actually works. These people are not happy that it doesn't currently do anything. If it is fixed, then they are happy. If it is fixed, you can disable it, and you are still happy because you weren't getting anything from it in the first place.
Your twisted desire to hope something doesn't work because you don't like it is asinine.
Have a good day.
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^^ This ^^ Because if you don't like it...then you turn it off.
Youtube link - https://youtu.be/aZREEM08Zfs
Ambient Notification Issue
Also please report this in the official thread (you can just click the star at the bottom without entering text): https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=226350&thanks=226350&ts=1477484991

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