LG G4 H815 - Hebrew is removed each restart - G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all,
I purchased this H815 in the Czech Republic.
I Brought it back to Israel, and following an update, the Hebrew vanished from the phone.
I added again Hebrew Locale (iw_IL or iw_GB) with MoreLocale2 app, and the phone turns into fully supported Hebrew.
However, the problem is that each and every time I perform a restart to the phone, the Hebrew vanishes again, and I need to choose from the MoreLocale2 app or from the Language & input settings to Hebrew again.
I tried to set the language to Spanish, Italian, etc. and it stays in these languages following restart. Only the Hebrew is changed during the restart process to English UK (en_GB).
Do someone know why this occurs? I know for a fact that there is a way to avoid this, but I don't know how.
Thanks,
Omer

Thumbs down to LG...
Happened to me too. The difference was that I purchased my phone IN Israel, and HAD the Hebrew language too but now it's gone.
I suspect that update's only purpose was to remove the Hebrew language from your phone.
It's truly an evil move from LG.
The way I can see we could fight it is by making MoreLocale2 automatic... On each restart it should brute force the Hebrew language back everytime as well as change the text to appear from right to left, instead of manually going to the developer options every time.

Sure. You are right. But this is not the issue.
With morelocale2, there is Hebrew in the phone. But - it changes back to English UK in each restart, but if you change to other languages, it stays in such language.
So annoying!

That's what I'm saying!
The same thing happens to me too!
They've probably added a check on every restart to see if you had the Hebrew language, if yes they change it back to English.... Truly lowly.

But Ronlight, the official importer, installed a rom without this "check" during July. However, when I updated the software, this language check came back (but the touch screen problems were resolved. This is the reason I know there is a way to solve this, but don't know how.

What can we do?
There is no way to undo the update, is there?
Also, why do you still think they didn't do it on purpose?
omermu said:
but the touch screen problems were resolved. This is the reason I know there is a way to solve this, but don't know how.
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How is that even a reason, sure, they coupled that update with some improvements it seems but only to make it a bit more legal.
I mean, lowly actions can be understood? No.
Ronlight charges more for the LG G4 because of the Hebrew language? (500 ILS more)
They hold you in the balls and make themselves a monopoly in the market.
Next time I will see the LG logo I will spit on it. Obviously it's a good phone but why I can't enjoy it to its fullest?
Sorry I'm venting my anger but you do see my point.

You can install the latest H815L10F.KDZ file on your h815 and everything will be fine, not sure about unlocked bootloader.

I prefer the unlocked bootloader.
But - Ronlight installed V10a rom of h815 (not L) with Hebrew as default, with unlocked bootloader.

Derpling said:
You can install the latest H815L10F.KDZ file on your h815 and everything will be fine, not sure about unlocked bootloader.
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H815L rom on H815 phone? Won't that brick my phone?

Bump?

i bought from eline they have one app that apply language on boot " שינוי שפה "
how i extract tha apk from system without root?

omermu said:
Bump?
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here is apk
the ??? is שנוי שפה

Working...
yosef019 said:
here is apk
the ??? is שנוי שפה
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Good. It's an app with the suggestion I've said earlier - Making the app start on startup and forcing the Hebrew language.
Don't forget to run the command: pm grant com.avicohh.languagechangerapp android.permission.CHANGE_CONFIGURATION
How much did you purchase it for?

Haha - this works...
This is not a real solution but rather a workaround.
He purchased a phone from Eline which is not from the official importer but rather a paralel import (but they are a good shop), and they installed Hebrew with MoreLocale2, installed this app which will run at startup each time you perform restart, and in the delevloper option I believe they clicked on force right to left option.
This causes the restart to be slower, since the phone changes to English, and then back to Hebrew. But it works
RageSmirk - your addition regarding the "pm" above is of course essensial, otherwise the app does not change the config. Thanks for that.
BTW - I started seeing other seller in Israel selling Lg G4 with "burned Hebrew" which does not erase when you perform a system update, but the importer in not Ronlight. I wonder how can it be... If someone knows which firmware they are using, please let us know!

RageSmirk said:
Good. It's an app with the suggestion I've said earlier - Making the app start on startup and forcing the Hebrew language.
Don't forget to run the command: pm grant com.avicohh.languagechangerapp android.permission.CHANGE_CONFIGURATION
How much did you purchase it for?
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omermu said:
Haha - this works...
This is not a real solution but rather a workaround.
He purchased a phone from Eline which is not from the official importer but rather a paralel import (but they are a good shop), and they installed Hebrew with MoreLocale2, installed this app which will run at startup each time you perform restart, and in the delevloper option I believe they clicked on force right to left option.
This causes the restart to be slower, since the phone changes to English, and then back to Hebrew. But it works
RageSmirk - your addition regarding the "pm" above is of course essensial, otherwise the app does not change the config. Thanks for that.
BTW - I started seeing other seller in Israel selling Lg G4 with "burned Hebrew" which does not erase when you perform a system update, but the importer in not Ronlight. I wonder how can it be... If someone knows which firmware they are using, please let us know!
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its was with samsung note 3 i needed manual change to english because those mirored left to righrt sybols at status bar
at lg its at right place im on 10c and i remember i updated the phone several times i so other firmware not for word wide version

tryied to flash new rom ISR/ISRAEL V10f LGH815L
Hello
i have H815 bought in usa
i use to have V10b-sea-xx on my g4 after software update i dont have hebrew lang in the list
so i tryied to flash new rom ISR/ISRAEL V10f LGH815L
i got this error after boot anf i have the new verion but no hebrew
error :current vertion is not available for user.cant find matched cust for nt code mcc/mnc[FFFFFF]subset[56]
anyone can help?

You are not supposed to flash a rom that isn't for your phone. H815 isn't the same as H815L.
And as for the reason that you still don't have Hebrew, is probably that they're checking your phone's IMEI.

RageSmirk said:
I suspect that update's only purpose was to remove the Hebrew language from your phone.
It's truly an evil move from LG.
The way I can see we could fight it is by making MoreLocale2 automatic...
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Paranoid much? Are LG a bunch of antisemites in your eyes?

How is this related to race or religion? They are just making this to help the local official distributor to charge more money for the same product. There is no reason to remove funcions from a device just in order to add it again and charge 150 Euros more.
BTW - this user FFFFFF problem can be easily resolved. I'm not in front of my pc, but I had the same problem following the update to v10c, and I found a solution easily.

omermu said:
How is this related to race or religion? They are just making this to help the local official distributor to charge more money for the same product.
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I see. I guess me misunderstanding this makes me an antisemite.

Related

[Need confirmation] Another Galaxy Nexus GSM version

OK, I bought my phone as well as many other of my friends from clove.co.uk and handtec.co.uk.
The phone came with the build ITL41F and baseband I9250KKXX1.
Using morelocale2 and the settings 'iw, IL' giving us part Hebrew support (right to left but still English menu).
Some retailers here in Israel reports they have galaxy nexus with the option to chose Hebrew from the language menu and it will completely turn the phone to Hebrew (including menu).
Trying to get the details so I'll know what the version is so I can flash it on my galaxy nexus but he retailers doesn't give any details.
Please if you can check your galaxy nexus and see in the languages if you have Hebrew (not for keyboard), will gladly to inform me.
I checked my languages menu for 'Hebrew' and 'עברית' (not sure if thats right... thanks to google translate). But neither are in the menu.
GSM version btw.
apparently there is another baseband which i'm having issues to find it.
thanks for trying anyway!
Hi DId you get any updates regarding RTL?
A very late reply
Only came across this thread now, probably not relevant anymore, but hey.. you never know!
As far as I can see, official Hebrew support (as in the system UI being in Hebrew) doesn't seem to be something that Google provides out of the box, but rather something that Samsung itself has made.
Let me explain - when I first got our phones, they came with the yakjuxw (Samasung) build. After updating the phones to the Google official 4.0.4 update, the option for Hebrew (along with many other languages) had disappeared at the initial startup screen as a system language.
If you want to make your system language Hebrew, you need to either
a) downgrade to one of Samsungs builds (4.0.2)
*or* (if you haven't already done this)
b) flash a custom ROM with the language built in it. I have AOKP, which is excellent, and I've tried the CM9 nightlies, also with Hebrew.
I recommend the latter option, by the way (who wants to downgrade?)

Galaxy W - changing ui language

Hi, I have a newbie question about android
Recently I've bought a new galaxy w. I've turned it on and figured out that it has a support of English and Malaysian language.
I'm a russian native speaker, so I would like to change a ui to russian language.
I mean not just being able to type sms in russian, but the whole ui (like application names, menues, and so on).
So, I would like to know how conceptually it can be done?
Is it just a matter of changing some locale related files or I need to install something?
Thanks a lot in advance
Install more locale app from google play
From My GWonder
mohza said:
Install more locale app from google play
From My GWonder
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Hi, Thanks a lot for the answer and sorry for the late reply
I've installed this application, but it seems like it provides only partial solution.
I saw that some applications really were named in russian (like google maps and google play)
But it did nothing with menus and icons on the bottom of the screen (phone, contacts, and so on).
When I chose Settings -> Language I don't see russian language and I guess this is the problem. I understand that more locale application only changes the locale and its good enough for applications having internationalization support by themselves but it doesn't affect the whole UI language of the system.
The issue looks deeper than only installing the right locale.
Meanwhile I've read about different ROMs available. I'm still vague on details but can ROM installation resolve the problem? If so, what ROM should I install?
Some more details that can shed some light:
- I'm located in Israel and the phone is bought there
- Kernel version : 2.6.35.7-perf-I8150DXMLM3-CL1103265
[email protected] #3
-Baseband version
I8150DXLC1
- Android version 2.3.6
-PDA I8150 DXLM3 (to obtain this I used *#*#1234#*#*)
Disclaimer, I'm quite a technical guy (programmer with ~15 years experience) so stuff like rooting the phone and installing custom modes of os version doesn't scare me, I just only never dealt with android phones
Thanks a lot in advance
Hi,
After reading and learning a little bit, I've tried to root the device, but with no luck
I tried all 3 methods I've found
here
but no one didn't really work
I'm quite sure I did everything like it was explained.
In the first method it wrote me the the update.zip was installed successfully, but after the reboot the phone wasn't rooted.
I've paid attention that in logs (accessible through recovery console there are a lot of messages of type:
failed to open /sys/class/android_usb/android0/state - looks like its an invalid path.
So any help will be appreciated here
Thanks
OK. It looks like after a couple of hours I've got a root access to the phone.
Thought someone can be interested...
I've used the first method and it didn't work.
I've made factory reset (also available in recovery console) and then came across mounting option in menu.
So I've mounted everything I could there and then re-applied the update.zip. Rebooted the phone and now it seems to have a root access (I have a superuser application).
Now the next challenge will be installing the ROM with russian language native support (in android jargon "flashing" ) with Odin.
I've downloaded a firmware from sammobile.com. And planning to use this tutorial
And I believe I'll be happy with my russian language
Since my experience with this stuff now is impressive _one_ day, so
could someone point me whether i'm in the right direction at all?
Thanks
Install the latest firmware XXLM8, i think it support russian language via the tutorial how to install via odin, then u will need to use the first method to root the firmware again...thats all
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mohza said:
Install the latest firmware XXLM8, i think it support russian language via the tutorial how to install via odin, then u will need to use the first method to root the firmware again...thats all
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Thanks a lot!
It looks I did exactly as you wrote, and it worked great
I didn't find XXLM8 firmware on sammobile, instead I used XXLM6 which is also good enough for my needs.
Thanks a lot for your help, mohza!
http://www.hotfile.com/dl/154220032/a7a8e53/I8150XXLM8_I8150OXXLC2_SMO.zip.html
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mark.bramnik said:
to obtain this I used *#*#1234#*#*
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BTW *#1234# is enough
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1515429

Motorola XT532 Stock English/Multi Lingual Firmware

Hi, does anyone have a link to, or are they willing to upload their stock Motorola XT532 firmware?
For a start, it must be in English or at least have an English Language option and also preferably include the Google Play Store application and relevant system applications for adding your Google account.
I have just bought an XT532 from China and it did have an English language option, however after trying to install a Google Store.apk and add an account, its seems to have soft bricked its' self (wont get past the Moto logo upon turning on). So I need the stock firmware so I can flash it back... any help guys?
Note: I did see another thread with links to the Taiwanese stock ROM, but most if not all of the links were dead and I don't know if they include an English language option anyway.
TechnoViking100 said:
Hi, does anyone have a link to, or are they willing to upload their stock Motorola XT532 firmware?
For a start, it must be in English or at least have an English Language option and also preferably include the Google Play Store application and relevant system applications for adding your Google account.
I have just bought an XT532 from China and it did have an English language option, however after trying to install a Google Store.apk and add an account, its seems to have soft bricked its' self (wont get past the Moto logo upon turning on). So I need the stock firmware so I can flash it back... any help guys?
Note: I did see another thread with links to the Taiwanese stock ROM, but most if not all of the links were dead and I don't know if they include an English language option anyway.
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actually i am looking to do the same thing have you found anything out yet?????
Maybe
brianwells4 said:
actually i am looking to do the same thing have you found anything out yet?????
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Have you guys tried this one?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35094806#post35094806
That thread is still active, I suggest to move there...
Hello Need a rom wit spanish please help

[Q] My default language change when I restart.

Im in Hong Kong in 4.1.2 version Android, I using English as my default language, when I restart my phone, it change back to Chinese, how do I fix this not change my language every time when I restart my phone ?:crying:
Eric_L_2011 said:
Im in Hong Kong in 4.1.2 version Android, I using English as my default language, when I restart my phone, it change back to Chinese, how do I fix this not change my language every time when I restart my phone ?:crying:
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Well most advised method is a factory reset...but note it will delete your data...use caution
Eric_L_2011 said:
Im in Hong Kong in 4.1.2 version Android, I using English as my default language, when I restart my phone, it change back to Chinese, how do I fix this not change my language every time when I restart my phone ?:crying:
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For some reason I have the same problem from today. I have set my language to English, but when I restart it changes to German - which was the country I purchased my Note 2
carlitos66 said:
For some reason I have the same problem from today. I have set my language to English, but when I restart it changes to German - which was the country I purchased my Note 2
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I have experienced this too starting last night... But mine changes from English to French.
I'm searching for the reason and solution now, and I find that we all encounter this today! (or yesterday considering timezone)
Started to happen from yesterday to mee too, languages changes to Italian after restart. I downloaded from Google Play app called "Language enabler" and disabled all languages but English, but after restart language changed to Italian again....
Same here on a Galaxy Tab 3 7"
Reboot sets my to Greek (I think)
Same for me, started yesterday, it' s very annoying and I dont want to Factory Reset, but I found something in the logcat which seems to be the source of the problem (maybe)
Screenshot in attachment
Mine happened as well. It changed to Russian from the default English.
Super SU Bug
The language change on reboot is a bug introduced by the most recent update of SuperSU (1.69, I think). Chainfire says (on Google+) that he's figured it out and it will be fixed in his next update, so patience all! (I'm experiencing the problem too!)
(Pls. press thanks if this helped you, I could use some!)
rschwed said:
The language change on reboot is a bug introduced by the most recent update of SuperSU (1.69, I think). Chainfire says (on Google+) that he's figured it out and it will be fixed in his next update, so patience all! (I'm experiencing the problem too!)
(Pls. press thanks if this helped you, I could use some!)
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I almost thought its coz my s3 is a korean version that it changes its language by itself when i restart it... thanks.. do you happen to know when will the next update come??... or if i uninstall the recent update on supersu, will it get rid of the bug too??
Solved !
rschwed said:
The language change on reboot is a bug introduced by the most recent update of SuperSU (1.69, I think). Chainfire says (on Google+) that he's figured it out and it will be fixed in his next update, so patience all! (I'm experiencing the problem too!)
(Pls. press thanks if this helped you, I could use some!)
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Solved!!!! Here is what I did:
Go to Settings --> Application Manager --> All --> SuperSu
Choose "Uninstall update".
Reboot phone.
Open Google Play(market), and update SuperSu to latest version.
After this I rebooted phone and language English again!
I've located Chainfire on Google+ and you can check his original post here:
plus.google.com/u/0/113517319477420052449/posts/P2Aqd3jBrgb
What I did is close to what he wrote there.
for me it didn't work. i still get french after reboot
vadish said:
Solved!!!! Here is what I did:
Go to Settings --> Application Manager --> All --> SuperSu
Choose "Uninstall update".
Reboot phone.
Open Google Play(market), and update SuperSu to latest version.
After this I rebooted phone and language English again!
I've located Chainfire on Google+ and you can check his original post here:
plus.google.com/u/0/113517319477420052449/posts/P2Aqd3jBrgb
What I did is close to what he wrote there.
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for me it didn't work. i still get french after reboot
vadish said:
Solved!!!! Here is what I did:
Go to Settings --> Application Manager --> All --> SuperSu
Choose "Uninstall update".
Reboot phone.
Open Google Play(market), and update SuperSu to latest version.
After this I rebooted phone and language English again!
I've located Chainfire on Google+ and you can check his original post here:
plus.google.com/u/0/113517319477420052449/posts/P2Aqd3jBrgb
What I did is close to what he wrote there.
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This did not work for me as well.
German for me
Ya same problem for me. Glad I found this thread, i was one minute away from a fact reset.
Same problem here. I fixed it uninstalling SuperSU and installing SuperUser.
Perform downgrade to 1.65 or wait for update.
this is what I did
Open supersu then goto settings then language and change it from default language to your language of choice. I rebooted my phone and it stayed on my selected language which is English UK
bug supersu v1.69
nothing works for me ...when this issue will be fixed Mr chainfire ???
linuxerghost said:
nothing works for me ...when this issue will be fixed Mr chainfire ???
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Just to share...
Chainfire is working on a beta version. Tried it and it fixed the language issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
Theres a link in page 407.

How can I add Chinese Input on Lineage AOSP Keyboard?

Hi, I have a question regarding to the AOSP keyboard, I have many chinese friends and I need to type chinese input on Lineage keyboard but It only has qwert english text, how can I add chinese input for AOSP Keyboard?
thanks in advance!
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MiHawkBeast said:
Hi, I have a question regarding to the AOSP keyboard, I have many chinese friends and I need to type chinese input on Lineage keyboard but It only has qwert english text, how can I add chinese input for AOSP Keyboard?
thanks in advance!
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Have you enabled chinese as second system language?
kurtn said:
Have you enabled chinese as second system language?
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Thanks I tried that and then i go back to AOSP setting and choose Language -> I did not see chinese or mandarin or any chinese related.
It shows list from start to end English - US ->> Uzbek, Vietnamese, Zulu end of list.
It does'nt have chinese though, maybe I need to install from playstore.
System -> Languages & Input -> Languages -> + Add a language (chinese will be at the bottom of the list)
I have a problems where I am able to choose Chinese as a language but am not able to activate Chinese as an input method. Same with Korean.
Should probably add... I use lineage with opengapps (pico) and the aosp keyboard.
The keyboard settings say use system languages but show only English and German although Chinese is configured as a system language.
I have the exact same problem with lineageos adroid keyboard.
Chinese language is available as system language for display purposes, but no input is available.
Ditto. Android 10 / LOS 17.1, zero Google apps, Chinese (简体中文) is enabled as a system language, and there seems to be no provision for actually entering Chinese. And the Google Pinyin Input app (which is what I have used in the past on CyanogenMod and LineageOS) seems to not work at all on this device (Sony Xperia Z3). The latest version of Google Pinyin installs and then dies silently, older versions will not even install. Ummmmm, that makes LOS unusable for something like 1/5 of the world's population. ;-) Maybe more, if this holds true for other Asian languages.
I'm also experiencing this, is this not fixed yet? Hard to believe
thetangstr said:
I'm also experiencing this, is this not fixed yet? Hard to believe
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I'm sure mokee rom has fixed it. Maybe they have something that can be ported to lineageOS?
Is there a bug report?
How to submit a bug report | LineageOS Wiki
wiki.lineageos.org
thetangstr said:
I'm also experiencing this, is this not fixed yet? Hard to believe
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Now July 2022, I have same situation with 18.1 recently updated (July 2022) on Samsung HLTE. I do not have any Google product installed, including Play Store.
I have (and have activated ) the Chinese simple option in the languages, but am unable to change it in the key pad.
It seems as though most Asian languages except Vietnamese are missing?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
UPDATE: July 10th
Really would like some feedback on this please?
Is it something I am or not doing?
Is this an issue with this ROM/
Is it simply not possible?
I see it is showing com.android.imput.latin in the keypad setting.
I cannot find any way to switch to Cn.
Is there an update via Lineageo/s I can add to achive this please?
Don't hesitate to ask me if there is info missing.
Without the ability to use Cn language in keyboard this has very limited functionality for me.
I see it is a feature of a stock Samsung C8 device.
Cheers
The Bic
user171 said:
System -> Languages & Input -> Languages -> + Add a language (chinese will be at the bottom of the list)
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Quite correct, but like me, the poster wants to add it to the keypad.
Ie, convert the keypad to be able to use Chinese language.
I know this is a 2 year old psot, but just curious if yu have achieved this?
FYI: I am unable to find any option to add a language in keypad setting and no Asian languages are preset. (excluding Vietnamese)
Cheers
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CynogenGalaxy said:
I have the exact same problem with lineageos adroid keyboard.
Chinese language is available as system language for display purposes, but no input is available.
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Hello, did you ever find a way to fix this?
Just install GKeyboard from Google play and set it as default input
Hello @ar_156, thanks for taking the time to write.
I am Guessing in GKeyboard the G stands for Google.
So it might likely work, as it does in my Galaxy C8 stock Chinese for which there is no known mod.
But I do not run any Google products including Pay Store.
That sort of defeats the entire purpose of running a Mod Lineage ROM, I may as well just run the stock Google Android.
Hopefully an update soon will restore the Lineage usefulness for me.
Cheers
P
Oh apparently 'tis Oktoberfest happy whatever one does~!
ar_156 said:
Just install GKeyboard from Google play and set it as default input
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Thanks again for your idea.
I located the APK , downloaded but it reports back : "APP not installed."
I tried it multiple times from multiple sources - no joy.
Do you or does anyone have any idea why it keeps failing please?
In a similar vein, I thought that an earlier version of Lineage OS ( I'm running 18.1 now) came with a note taking APP?
Is there one for the current version please?
Thx
Gboard - the Google Keyboard
or use TouchPal Keyboard, it wil let you install Chinese Traditional or Simplified input.
GBoard requieres some Google elements, maybe your chinese device does not allow it, your best bet is TouchPal Keyboard, I am using it, too.
ar_156 said:
Gboard - the Google Keyboard
or use TouchPal Keyboard, it wil let you install Chinese Traditional or Simplified input.
GBoard requieres some Google elements, maybe your chinese device does not allow it, your best bet is TouchPal Keyboard, I am using it, too.
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Hiya @ar_156 thanks very much for that .
Issue is very likely device related, but haha, you maybe read too much CNN!
Nothing to do with location, I suspect G/board will fail anywhere.
Since posting I had a flashback to another APP that gave the same error message. Turned out it was a 64 bit APP - Note 3 is only 32~
Once I found a 32 bit APP it installed no issues. Sadly, G/board seems not to have a 32 bit option.
I have a newer 64 bit Galaxy C8 but can't find a custom ROM for that so for now I am stuck with the Note 3 and 32 bits~
I'll giveTouchpal a try many thanks.
Saturday Sept 24th.
Hello again @ar_156 , a quick follow up. f
I found the ads on Touchpal a bit distracting.
However, your tip re Gboard IS the answer for anyone who is having the same issue .
BUT - it must be the ARM (32 bit ) version, available ex Softpedia.
Probably others as well.
However, one MUST search for the arm version, there are at least 3.
The default download is 64 bit and will fail every time.
I now have Gboard up, seems to run OK. So thank you , hope this follow up helps someone, somewhere, sometime.
Cheers
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