[REQ] Enable Dual Speakers - G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

On my old phone, Galaxy S5, there was a small mod that enable dual speakers and it totally made the experience better. So, can somebody figure out how to enable dual speakers on the LG G4? I know it has to be in mixer_paths.xml, but I don't know what lines to edit

De_Falt said:
On my old phone, Galaxy S5, there was a small mod that enable dual speakers and it totally made the experience better. So, can somebody figure out how to enable dual speakers on the LG G4? I know it has to be in mixer_paths.xml, but I don't know what lines to edit
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Dual speakers? Like the ear piece speaker?

joshuadjohnson22 said:
Dual speakers? Like the ear piece speaker?
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Yes

De_Falt said:
Yes
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Just out of curiosity what do you need it for? Audio play back or phone call? Seems like an interesting request as the ear piece probably cannot put off good loud sound without peaking.

Doing this mod is very dumb in my opinion. The earpiece speaker on the phones is put at certain cut of sound frequencies in order to focus in the voices and not so much background noises. So in order to having it be a speaker will not sound so good at all plus also the risk of blowing it will be much greater for it isnt meant for audio other than for phonecalls for it also is much smaller than the dedicated speaker for music.

wadamean said:
Doing this mod is very dumb in my opinion. The earpiece speaker on the phones is put at certain cut of sound frequencies in order to focus in the voices and not so much background noises. So in order to having it be a speaker will not sound so good at all plus also the risk of blowing it will be much greater for it isnt meant for audio other than for phonecalls for it also is much smaller than the dedicated speaker for music.
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I don't listen to very high volume on the G4 speaker at all, and I also use speaker optimization in V4A. I really like the the stereo effect this would probably give if the ear piece got enabled. I loved this very much on my Galaxy S5 and I can respect your opinion.

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Just out of curiosity what do you need it for? Audio play back or phone call? Seems like an interesting request as the ear piece probably cannot put off good loud sound without peaking.
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Audio playback is the main reason. This mod was very good on the Galaxy S5, you can find the mod in the threads on that device somewhere.

your gonna blow up your speakers OP

Phurkus said:
your gonna blow up your speakers OP
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On the Galaxy S5 this wasn't an issue and I can tweak the speaker settings in V4A, but I can respect your opinion.
Here's where the idea originated from: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/themes-apps/soundmod-t2902915

De_Falt said:
On my old phone, Galaxy S5, there was a small mod that enable dual speakers and it totally made the experience better. So, can somebody figure out how to enable dual speakers on the LG G4? I know it has to be in mixer_paths.xml, but I don't know what lines to edit
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I'm right there with you! I had this mod on my G3 as well. Loved the surround effect. If the mixer path is edited properly (balancing the earpiece at a lower level compared to the rear speaker) no damage and great sound effect. Unfortunately as much as I have tried, the G4 mixer path xml is a nightmare to navigate, I've tried countless times to obtain this surround effect using the previous device mod as a guide, but no dice. Best I could do was gaining a respectable volume increase in call and speaker output without getting into distortion territory. Love the G4 but some of the new files are quite the pain!!!

zoman7663 said:
I'm right there with you! I had this mod on my G3 as well. Loved the surround effect. If the mixer path is edited properly (balancing the earpiece at a lower level compared to the rear speaker) no damage and great sound effect. Unfortunately as much as I have tried, the G4 mixer path xml is a nightmare to navigate, I've tried countless times to obtain this surround effect using the previous device mod as a guide, but no dice. Best I could do was gaining a respectable volume increase in call and speaker output without getting into distortion territory. Love the G4 but some of the new files are quite the pain!!!
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Very true! After seeing the G4's mixer_paths.xml in my file browser, my eyes were twitching! I have no idea where to start editing so I was hoping the fabulous XDA G4 community could help, but at this point all I'm getting is: "your gonna blow out your speakers" or "this is dumb". But at the same time I can see where they're coming from, there's a chance the speaker(s) can blow or this mod may not be worth fighting for.

zoman7663 said:
If the mixer path is edited properly (balancing the earpiece at a lower level compared to the rear speaker) no damage and great sound effect.
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I had the HTC Boombass as a free promo when I got my HTC One M8. It was set up to provide bass over and above the normal HTC M8 speakers and worked quite well. That kinda falls in line with what you are saying about the earpiece, it could be used to add a little something without trying to equal the loudspeaker in range or volume but could still prove useful to the overall sound.

Had a mod like this on my Nexus 5 as well. Tweaked properly it can sound great.

there is actually a thread where a stereo mod is published, also is installable with(or without) magisk
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/mod-dual-speaker-soundmod-devices-root-t3735280

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Speakers are not very loud...

Is it just me or are the new speakers much softer than the previous N7? It does sound much better with the Stereo setup instead of Mono, but the volume just seems low even at max volume. Maybe its just me...
The new Nexus 7 speakers are much louder for me than the old ones.
Speakers have plenty of volume...
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Is it just me or are the new speakers much softer than the previous N7? It does sound much better with the Stereo setup instead of Mono, but the volume just seems low even at max volume. Maybe its just me...
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Me too. :crying:
GatorsUF said:
Is it just me or are the new speakers much softer than the previous N7? It does sound much better with the Stereo setup instead of Mono, but the volume just seems low even at max volume. Maybe its just me...
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You're can't be on the cm-10.2 nightlies right now because for me they're almost too loud haha
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Me too. :crying:
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GatorsUF said:
Is it just me or are the new speakers much softer than the previous N7? It does sound much better with the Stereo setup instead of Mono, but the volume just seems low even at max volume. Maybe its just me...
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I am also in the same boat. Low Sound and I was wondering a way to check it.
Also, i tried listening to it by placing my ears on the speakers and I am not able to hear anything from the top speakers at all. The down seem to work fine.
So can you check and let me know which speakers are affected and also what are you software version or and using any custom rom?
I am on stock, Unrooted, locked and nothing changed from me till yet.
Mine is also not loud and I hear sound form both speakers . I just tested it against my phones and........galaxy s3, galaxy s2, galaxy note 2 are louder by alot.
Make sure you guys are testing with the right things, for example with music or podcasts mine are very loud and its great but Youtube can be sporadic because not every video is made well and the sound doesnt get through. If you are watching a professional channel then they should be great but some people dont do too well with the sound on youtube. Also netflix for me is very loud and clear and overall everything is much better than my original N7
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Make sure you guys are testing with the right things, for example with music or podcasts mine are very loud and its great but Youtube can be sporadic because not every video is made well and the sound doesnt get through. If you are watching a professional channel then they should be great but some people dont do too well with the sound on youtube. Also netflix for me is very loud and clear and overall everything is much better than my original N7
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Is yours louder than this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuB97aR6IoQ
my speakers work fine and loud. But i read somewhere that due to the angle of the speakers (almost rear facing), some people have complained about weak speakers.
I have sound mod increase by 50 percent for my gs3. Wonder if it would work with the nexus 7. Prolly not as 4.3 might have different files.
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Hnk1 said:
I am also in the same boat. Low Sound and I was wondering a way to check it.
Also, i tried listening to it by placing my ears on the speakers and I am not able to hear anything from the top speakers at all. The down seem to work fine.
So can you check and let me know which speakers are affected and also what are you software version or and using any custom rom?
I am on stock, Unrooted, locked and nothing changed from me till yet.
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Everything stock. Both speakers are working fine but soft. 1st gen N7 speaker is louder.

Audio Quality Through Headphones

What is the audio quality like through the headphone jack?
A good pair of headphones & Flac with both built in music player & Poweramp?
Is it as good as both the S5 & the M8 or is it better?
Ta
I think the quality is good. However some handsets have a problem with internal noise, i also had this issue but it kinda fixed itself after the first few days.
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I think the quality is good. However some handsets have a problem with internal noise, i also had this issue but it kinda fixed itself after the first few days.
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What do you mean by internal noise? Buzzing from headphone jack?
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What is the audio quality like through the headphone jack?
A good pair of headphones & Flac with both built in music player & Poweramp?
Is it as good as both the S5 & the M8 or is it better?
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i use poweramp and Westone UM3x in-ears or Beyer Dynamic Custom Pro, and for sure no worse than S4 and M7 which i pre-owned, and similar to directly from my Macbook Pro, too. so i personally am very pleased with the sound...:good: and no hissing or other issues here ...
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What do you mean by internal noise? Buzzing from headphone jack?
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Yeah something like that. But i just read people having this issue made it go away by changing from dalvik to ART in settings. When i think about it (i also changed to ART) that was when my issue also was gone. So yeah apparently a software issue.
jomansch said:
i use poweramp and Westone UM3x in-ears or Beyer Dynamic Custom Pro, and for sure no worse than S4 and M7 which i pre-owned, and similar to directly from my Macbook Pro, too. so i personally am very pleased with the sound...:good: and no hissing or other issues here ...
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I would it is better then the S4 & the M7, I didn't think they where all that good.
S5 & M8 are a good yard stick.
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I would it is better then the S4 & the M7, I didn't think they where all that good.
S5 & M8 are a good yard stick.
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i tried a lot of mobiles this one is the best quality i've ever heard
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i tried a lot of mobiles this one is the best quality i've ever heard
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Fantastic. Looking forward to trying mine out.
Do you use stock or a 3rd party music player?
GSM arena ran a bunch of tests and basically found that the G3 has the highest output quality of any Android device, up against the S5, M8, Find7, and Z2. It's not the loudest, but there will be mods for that.
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Yeah something like that. But i just read people having this issue made it go away by changing from dalvik to ART in settings. When i think about it (i also changed to ART) that was when my issue also was gone. So yeah apparently a software issue.
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I changed from dalvik to art. But the noise remains in the left ear plug after reboot (checked and art is still selected). Any ideas?
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GSM arena ran a bunch of tests and basically found that the G3 has the highest output quality of any Android device, up against the S5, M8, Find7, and Z2. It's not the loudest, but there will be mods for that.
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Yeah I did read that, but it's always nice to hear from users first hand. :good:
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I changed from dalvik to art. But the noise remains in the left ear plug after reboot (checked and art is still selected). Any ideas?
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Crap! I just tested again and now i also have a silent buzz when i play music. This is really not right. Also i have this beep-beep sound the moment i plug in my headphones.
Is this buzzing present when playing through Bluetooth headphones?
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Yeah I did read that, but it's always nice to hear from users first hand. :good:
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I can tell you that it's the best mobile I've heard. I play Spotify @320 through Shure SE846's and sure it's not the absolute top notch but it's REALLY good. Like, I don't feel the need for an external Amp/DAC.
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Is this buzzing present when playing through Bluetooth headphones?
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nope
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Fantastic. Looking forward to trying mine out.
Do you use stock or a 3rd party music player?
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with poweramp and withour direct volume control, without any egalzer..nothing, the sound is simply amazing.
The M8, G3, Note 3, and S5 all had pretty good sound quality with headphones imo. I really couldn't say which is the best. They all sounded pretty good and comparable to each other. I still use my ear buds from the HTC Rezound. I don't care what anyone says but those were some good headphones for a free pair.
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Maybe it's just me but I find the volume to be on the low side (using Google Play Music All Access) and the sound doesn't sound warm like it did on my SGS3
Varming said:
Maybe it's just me but I find the volume to be on the low side (using Google Play Music All Access) and the sound doesn't sound warm like it did on my SGS3
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Check out the mod in the developer section. You can make it plenty loud very easily (with root).
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The M8, G3, Note 3, and S5 all had pretty good sound quality with headphones imo. I really couldn't say which is the best. They all sounded pretty good and comparable to each other. I still use my ear buds from the HTC Rezound. I don't care what anyone says but those were some good headphones for a free pair.
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That would be EXACTLY why you can't tell any of them apart, LOL. It's like saying Blu-Ray and DVD look the exact same when you're watching them on your 13" CRT TV.
And no... the stock buds that come with a phone aren't good. They're terrible. Quite literally the only good things you can say is that they put sound in your ear and it's possible to buy worse ones at a 7/11.
Stock earphones from the HTC M7 and M8 are great for free headphones quite loud and good sound.
I have a pair of JVC extreme in earphones that I bought for £15 quid and they are loud, also have a pair of Dre Beat's Solo's and they sound good.
I'd say the stock volume for the rear facing speaker is very loud for a back firing speaker I was quite shocked at just how loud it was.
Headphone volume was on the low side though.
I used a guide in the dev thread to boost the auido volume of both speaker and headset and then used Viper4Android and WOW oh WOW.
Best sound I've had out of a phone.
I've owned alot aswell. Coming from the Nexus 5 the sound of the G3 blows it away.
I would 100% suggest rooting. Increasing the values as per the guide and getting Viper4Android installed

Anyone return phone due to poor HP audio?

I have to say that while my copy has been flawless, I can't say I like the HP output. It's at least two steps back from my old Samsung GNex. Volume is poor and simply the detail coming out of it, at least through my Audio-Technika IM70 IEMs, is also quite lacking. Not impressed at all.
Is anyone else thinking about returning/selling their phone due to poor HP output?
No ofcourse not there will be a tweak to make it sounds good
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I've not experienced anything like that. Like you I love my music and I am very happy with the quality coming from the handset. Although I always use poweramp.
I like the audio from this device.
I was replying to one guy at reddit before. He was curios about the sound on the G4 compared to HTC One M7. Since I got both, and I do listen to music a lot, I wrote my impression.
"I switched from M7 to G4, and I was worried about the sound in headphones also. Even though I think they both perform really good, but I will give my M7 a slight edge here. I was listening to both right now, and it feels that G4 got more highs, bass is not as punchy as M7, and M7 sounds more tight. It's really hard to say which sounds better, matter of taste, but I find M7 as a better sound quality device, even though the sound is a bit dull comparing to G4. The volume levels are higher in M7, but the volumes G4 produces are more than enough for me.
Both devices were tested with stock players, without any EQ tweaks, Beats Audio turned off of course. Music genre: electronic. Earphones: Shure SE425."
But I won't return this device, only because I don't like the sound as much as I do on M7. G4 is superb phone in overall, and the sound is not bad at all, it's just different.
Versus my M7 it doesnt compare. But with that being said my M7 had an audiomod on it which revamped the output. There really isn't any phone(stock) that I could find that'll compare to it.
Am I going to return it? Nope. I'll wait for root and get another mod and call it a day
The headphone quality is indeed poor. Also on my unit, the device won’t even recognize the headphone input unless the jack is pressed at a certain angle. Tested with multiple pairs of headphones.
The headphone situation is my only negative mark for this phone. Everything else about it meets or exceeds expectations.
Idk how can some people all audio quality on this phone good....
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Idk how can some people all audio quality on this phone good....
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Idk how someone on an S6 keeps trolling the G4 threads.
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The headphones quality by all means isn't poor whatsoever. Tested and compared to iPhone 6,5, Samsung s6 n4 and 2014 edition tablet. Lg g4 by far is the very best. I'm a sound engineer and was blown away from the sound of this device. It's very well balanced with extension on the highs. The bass of course isn't as punchy but it's just right amount of bass extension so it doesn't overpower the mids. Yes volume output for hp isn't so great. Lg g2,3,4 is the one phone that has a DAC inside for sound quality and support natively 192/24bit audio
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The headphones quality by all means isn't poor whatsoever. Tested and compared to iPhone 6,5, Samsung s6 n4 and 2014 edition tablet. Lg g4 by far is the very best. I'm a sound engineer and was blown away from the sound of this device. It's very well balanced with extension on the highs. The bass of course isn't as punchy but it's just right amount of bass extension so it doesn't overpower the mids. Yes volume output for hp isn't so great. Lg g2,3,4 is the one phone that has a DAC inside for sound quality and support natively 192/24bit audio
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This.
LG just lowers the volume so you don't blow out your pretty ear drums. Volume mods are just a number tweak.
player911 said:
This.
LG just lowers the volume so you don't blow out your pretty ear drums. Volume mods are just a number tweak.
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Tweak tips?
Any way to turn on the LG Nanny mode off?
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Idk how someone on an S6 keeps trolling the G4 threads.
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Have both phones. The audio on g4 is crappy when earphones are on. But feel free to troll and deny it
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Sounds a lot better than my Nexus 6. I had to mess with the equalizer to get a decent sound that wasn't muffled/"warm" but not with the G4.
Using PowerAmp and ATH-M50x.
It also gets plenty loud for me. I've never had to turn the volume to max.
If it doesn't get loud enough for you, get some headphones/iems that isolate better, are within proper impedance range for a mobile device or get an amp or get your hearing checked.
I don't understand what you all mean when you say you apply an audio mod to make things sound better. What does this "mod" actually do? I am very skeptical because mods can only modify the software at that point, the hardware (which controls the quality) is what it is.
I sweat by Viper4Android. Its crazy all the things it can do. The convolver in particular has helped elevate the sound. Not being able to install it has been my biggest disappointment with the g4
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Increase volume without root?(Maybe just a sound issue in general?)

I just got a new g4 this morning and I must say.... The volume on the speaker is incredibly disappointing.
Is there a way to increase the volume without rooting the phone?
i don't know the answer, sorry. but, do you mean the speaker volume when on a call or the rear speaker? i find the caller speaker a bit low
reg66 said:
i don't know the answer, sorry. but, do you mean the speaker volume when on a call or the rear speaker? i find the caller speaker a bit low
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Sorry, the rear speaker.
It is exceptionally quiet compared to almost every other phone I can remember using.
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Sorry, the rear speaker.
It is exceptionally quiet compared to almost every other phone I can remember using.
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mines quite loud, well maybe not loud loud, but louder than my galaxy S4
Here's an example of the audio quality. I recorded my Note 3 and G4 on my Yeti Mic(turned the sensitivity up so you can hear both clearly)
First is the Note 3 2nd the G4
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1AHndbDYccJ

Sound quality on the 10

Well I'm going to be talking about my speaker performance on the 10 compared to my previous phone the HTC One M8.
I don't know how HTC thought the 10's sound quality via the speaker was acceptable. I mean don't get me wrong the clarity of the sound from the speakers blows the m8 away for miles. It's hard to listen to the M8 without thinking how bad the clarity is imo. BUT the 10 is not as loud. The 10's tweeter on the front sometimes over powers the sub on the bottom and makes the song sound thin and tinny. I even tried flac files and still same thing. Not every song does this but a lot do. It doesn't have the force or drive like the M8 does. It seems like left (tweeter) and right (sub woofer) channels of song. You put the left and right together to get the full sound of the song. The M8 I believe has the left and right channels of the song on both speakers. That makes it more fuller an louder.
The M8 is pretty mushed at high volume meaning, it feels like all the instruments in the song are mashed together and thrown at you imo which is why I think the M8 doesn't have great clarity at all.
I'd like to say having clarity over mushed but louder and fuller sound is better but honestly I don't know anymore BUT hey the 10 has great headphone audio and other great features that make it worth having over the M8.
Let me know what you think and hopefully you guys have a better experience with sound meaning, there is a possibility that my device's speaker are defective lol.
Coming from an M8, I would say the HTC 10 definitely clearer but not as loud as the M8. However, it feels HTC worked on sound quality versus just making it loud.
It's a worthy trade-off. Using two different speakers for highs and lows is a brilliant idea and it really shows. I prefer listening to music at a mild volume for clarity versus loud somewhat distorted.
There were phones that were louder than the M8 but not as clear which is what BoomSounds trademark is.
On the 10, I can hear leaves rustling, fire popping, and other ambient noise that has never sounded so crisp, distinct, and natural. I feel like its the ATH-M50 of mobile sound with his balance.
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try music mode its almost stereo
I'm glad I wasn't the only one that felt the speakers sounded a bit tinny, especially at max volumes. It seemed a bit underwelming compared to my Nexus 6p. At moderate volumes however, it sounds decent. Lots of clarity.
Has anyone installed V4A and tried volume boost or increasing gain?
and i hate that boom sound doesn't work when using soundcloud google play yes and apple music no soundcloud wtf
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No since vzw got no root yet BUT poweramp has a volume booster and it is doing wonders.
How's sound quality through headphone... Is it upto the hype
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How's sound quality through headphone... Is it upto the hype
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The headphone jack is awesome and the audio profiles are badass. Creating profiles is done using two options: "Answer questions" which asks your age, styles of music you generally listen to, etc., and "Listen to frequencies" which generates a much more detailed 5-band EQ. The latter is much better because you can tune it based on what you can actually hear in either ear - it plays a frequency tone in the left headphone, you adjust the volume until you can barely hear it, then it plays a higher tone, you adjust volume, etc., and then it repeats the process for the right ear.
This is beneficial since boosting certain frequencies is often more useful (and less harmful to your hearing) than just cranking up the overall volume. No one has "perfect" hearing and hearing loss is often not uniform across the normal range of audible frequencies, nor is it necessarily uniform from left ear to right ear. In my case, my left ear required a little extra bass and highs while my right ear needed extra mid-range.
You can also use this to adjust the headphone output to specific listening environments you encounter. For example, creating an audio profile while on an airplane should be able to compensate for the engine noise. Later this morning I'll be setting up a profile with my lawnmower running outside, so I'm looking forward to hearing the results.
My only complaints are UI related:
1. The audio profiles are buried about 3 levels deep in Settings. When you plug in headphones, you get the "HTC BoomSound with Dolby Audio" card in the notification shade. Tapping the card takes you to the main Settings app, where you tap "HTC BoomSound with Dolby Audio" again, then "Personal Audio Profile", then choose or create your profile. Would have liked something a little simpler to use, or at least have the notification card go directly to the BoomSound settings instead of requiring an extra tap.
2. There doesn't appear to be a way to edit a profile or view its settings after you create it. You can enable it or you can delete it. -- EDIT: This is incorrect; I am an idiot. You tap in the profile to edit it.
3. The audio profiles are completely hidden when the headphone jack is not in use. You can't even see the profiles you've created. Tapping on "HTC BoomSound with Dolby Audio" in Settings just toggles the speakers between Music Mode and Theater Mode.
tl;dr - lives up to the hype. Maybe even better than hyped.
Source: have mixed audio (both live and recording settings) for >10 years, did my testing with a pair of Audio-Technica studio headphones.
I've got a pretty good system in my car and I just tried it out a few minutes ago. It sounds amazing! I'm coming from an M8 with V4A and it sounds about the same in some respects and better in others. I created a profile with frequencies and the difference after doing so was definitely noticeable. I like that they even have a high quality sample with a toggle so you can compare very easily. I do miss the Clarity setting and the equalizer in V4A, but overall I am extremely pleased!
What I'm running, for reference:
Arc Audio XDI 600 amp
Focal i165 fronts
JBL 3-way 6x9 rears
12" Diamond Audio sub
Regarding the "Personal Audio Profile", I understand you can create multiple profiles yeah? Can you give those profiles custom names?
I for example would probably like to do at least three different "listen to frequencies" profiles: for my Piston 3's, the HTC hi-res buds and for my superlux hd-330's.
Would be nice if you can name them however you want ;D
Also is there an option somewhere within the settings to disable the 16>24 upsampling bs?
Checked out the 10 at Verizon side by side to my M8. Played same YouTube song. 10 is clearer but, very tinny and I can't here it over the surrounding noise, tried both modes. The M8 at least I can hear it and can't believe people say you can't hear the stereo separation, you can if you turn the device side ways. Over all having the choice I would pick the two front facing speakers all day long. I think HTC blew it hear, at least there is a work around with Bluetooth speaker. This is a amazing device except for the speakers and lack of IR blaster. I will still get the 10 mainly for the dev support this will get.
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Checked out the 10 at Verizon side by side to my M8. Played same YouTube song. 10 is clearer but, very tinny and I can't here it over the surrounding noise, tried both modes. The M8 at least I can hear it and can't believe people say you can't hear the stereo separation, you can if you turn the device side ways. Over all having the choice I would pick the two front facing speakers all day long. I think HTC blew it hear, at least there is a work around with Bluetooth speaker. This is a amazing device except for the speakers and lack of IR blaster. I will still get the 10 mainly for the dev support this will get.
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If they could, I am sure they would have kept the front facing speakers, but that would have meant bigger bezels, on-screen navigation keys and fingerprint scanner at the back. That would have killed the device from the outset, so the current speaker configuration is the best compromise.
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Regarding the "Personal Audio Profile", I understand you can create multiple profiles yeah? Can you give those profiles custom names?
I for example would probably like to do at least three different "listen to frequencies" profiles: for my Piston 3's, the HTC hi-res buds and for my superlux hd-330's.
Would be nice if you can name them however you want ;D
Also is there an option somewhere within the settings to disable the 16>24 upsampling bs?
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1) You can create multiple profiles and name it whatever you want.
2) Upscaling bit-depth from 16 to 24 will NOT do any harm in theory (loseless), yet upsampling sample rate to a non-integer multiple of original may trigger a process called SRC, for example 44.1Khz -> 192Khz, which might cause some minor accuracy problem, but it's still transparent to human ears.
giorgoxxi said:
If they could, I am sure they would have kept the front facing speakers, but that would have meant bigger bezels, on-screen navigation keys and fingerprint scanner at the back. That would have killed the device from the outset, so the current speaker configuration is the best compromise.
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Probably true, the fingerprint scanner is to close to the bottom, kinda of a stretch one handed, if it would have been put were the HTC logo is on the M8 would have been more comfortable and possibly squeezed the lower speaker. You can't have everything in life so you make due...lol
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robbo10 said:
Probably true, the fingerprint scanner is to close to the bottom, kinda of a stretch one handed, if it would have been put were the HTC logo is on the M8 would have been more comfortable and possibly squeezed the lower speaker. You can't have everything in life so you make due...lol
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Still because of htc keep the boomsound setup. If you look closely at samsung s7, you will notice samsung hide their display circuit at the top, beneath the logo. But samsung's top speaker is a very very small one, meanwhile htc used 2 large speakers , top and bottom.
So basically htc had to move the fingerprint sensor a bit lower.
TeroZ said:
1) You can create multiple profiles and name it whatever you want.
2) Upscaling bit-depth from 16 to 24 will NOT do any harm in theory (loseless), yet upsampling sample rate to a non-integer multiple of original may trigger a process called SRC, for example 44.1Khz -> 192Khz, which might cause some minor accuracy problem, but it's still transparent to human ears.
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1) Thanks for the confirmation.
2) Excuse me for using the wrong term, but you didn't answer the question. Surely it can't be so hard? Is there an option or is there not?
lagittaja said:
1) Thanks for the confirmation.
2) Excuse me for using the wrong term, but you didn't answer the question. Surely it can't be so hard? Is there an option or is there not?
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Sorry I just forgot to answer that while explaining. No, there's no switch. And I couldn't even confirm the 16->24 conversion exists, official site state that they used a 24-bit capable dac, but didn't mention anything about upscaling/upsampling. If you have the source please don't hesitate to tell me.
HTC Nexus 9 I believe. That device had dual front facing speakers and those were really thin and on the edge of the screen, so I think they could have done something. With the 10, a volume booster makes it sound better but still tinny on the tweeter.
If you really want to hear a good example, play the song "vengeful one" by Disturbed, the intro is the tinniest sound you'll ever hear on the tweeter.
TeroZ said:
Sorry I just forgot to answer that while explaining. No, there's no switch. And I couldn't even confirm the 16->24 conversion exists, official site state that they used a 24-bit capable dac, but didn't mention anything about upscaling/upsampling. If you have the source please don't hesitate to tell me.
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Well, you can switch BoomSound on/off entirely, but who knows if that changes the bit depth.
Your question about the audio profiles was already answered, but here are some screenshots of the profiles I made and what their EQs look like. I used the "listen to frequencies" method for all of them.

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