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Hey,
So to a total newcomer to the whole rooting thing, i was wondering exactly what the dangers with rooting is? What does it open up to malware that wasnt there before?
When you jailbrake an i-device you for example hafto change the root password since its the same for all jailbroken devices after jailbrake.
Can someone break it down easy?
Many thanks!
soulman79 said:
Hey,
So to a total newcomer to the whole rooting thing, i was wondering exactly what the dangers with rooting is? What does it open up to malware that wasnt there before?
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Well there's a danger you can accidentally delete something you shouldn't have. You do have access to the file system after all.
Malware threats are overblown on platforms outside of Windows. Android and iOS malware still needs you to purposely install an apk/ipa. If not, they're usually sent through SMS/MMS, which the Ouya is incapable of. <_<'
Pretty much the only ways you can get malware is if you sideload it or if it somehow sneaks into the stores.
There's one specific exploit... but that doesn't affect the Ouya because:
1. It's not Samsung.
2. It doesn't have GSM/3G/HSDPA.
When you jailbrake an i-device you for example hafto change the root password since its the same for all jailbroken devices after jailbrake.
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No such restriction exists on Android. My Ouya account is still usable after rooting (and it coexists with my Google account).
thank you for taking the time to explain it!
Will root after morning coffe then =) If i do a system reset ( in the ouya menu´s ) will the root disappear? Or do i manually have to uninstall it if i want to make it factory original again?
soulman79 said:
thank you for taking the time to explain it!
Will root after morning coffe then =) If i do a system reset ( in the ouya menu´s ) will the root disappear? Or do i manually have to uninstall it if i want to make it factory original again?
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Root disappears if you factory reset, or there's a system update. So be prepared to reroot if there's an update. Keep the one click app handy! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2387507
You should take a look at this topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2359390
I haven't had the opportunity to test the superuser preserve function yet (I updated before rooting), so just in case be prepared to reapply your root.
Ouya isn't Sony, I don't think they'll be blocking root access anytime soon.
Ultimate Chicken said:
Root disappears if you factory reset, or there's a system update. So be prepared to reroot if there's an update. Keep the one click app handy! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2387507
You should take a look at this topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2359390
I haven't had the opportunity to test the superuser preserve function yet (I updated before rooting), so just in case be prepared to reapply your root.
Ouya isn't Sony, I don't think they'll be blocking root access anytime soon.
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Awsome! got it rooted and can FINALLY log in to youtube, the google tv youtube app is perfect!
Thanks for all your answers, really appreciate it!
so i did a factory reset just cause i got alot installed and wanted a fresh setup, but after the reset google store and some other app from google where still there, aren't they suppost to be wiped off with a factory reset? how do i get rid of them?
soulman79 said:
so i did a factory reset just cause i got alot installed and wanted a fresh setup, but after the reset google store and some other app from google where still there, aren't they suppost to be wiped off with a factory reset? how do i get rid of them?
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Ah yes, the Play Store hack is what's known as a dirty hack. It leaves crumbs that persist through a factory reset. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44166123&postcount=158
PS: you'll need root access to delete those. After you get rid of the play store stuff you can factory reset again and it shouldn't be back.
i ran the root apk and it says rooted, tried to delete the files with es file explorer but it wont delete the files... i even stoppped the process in the settings menu... is there another way i gotta go about?
soulman79 said:
i ran the root apk and it says rooted, tried to delete the files with es file explorer but it wont delete the files... i even stoppped the process in the settings menu... is there another way i gotta go about?
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E's file explorer should be able to do it, but I think you need to mount system/ as R/W because it doesn't do so automatically. http://androidcowboy.com/2013/06/how-to-uninstall-system-apps-with-es-file-explorer/
If the above doesn't work, you're missing the superuser app.
These days I just connect things to my computer via microusb and use adb shell to deal with the file system; I still need busybox for that.
puh, got it done.. missed the part that you gotta show root explorer on the left menu.. Holy sh*t im out of my league here =)
If i install the framework only will that leave bits and peaces to, or is it only playstore that does this? i saw that the framework had an uninstall / cleanup function in the app so im guessing that it takes care of itself?
If i disable root acces after installing the framwork will the framework still function or do it need to be rooted all the time?
Big thank you for the fast reply´s!
soulman79 said:
puh, got it done.. missed the part that you gotta show root explorer on the left menu.. Holy sh*t im out of my league here =)
If i install the framework only will that leave bits and peaces to, or is it only playstore that does this? i saw that the framework had an uninstall / cleanup function in the app so im guessing that it takes care of itself?
If i disable root acces after installing the framwork will the framework still function or do it need to be rooted all the time?
Big thank you for the fast reply´s!
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The framework needs root access.
The playstore mod is the only one that leaves bits and pieces AFAIK... next time before you factory reset, run the cleanup tools and uninstall the mod first. (Sorry I didn't warn you before. I forgot. >.<)
ahh, will do =)
Finnaly got it setup up right! Thx for all the support man!
Hello guys. I have the Mi Max, the problem came when i root my phone, after rooting, i install a good app from playstore that gives you the opportunity to unistall system apps( always i know which apps i must unistall , like gmail, weather etc ) .. in this phone when i unistall some apps the phone after reboot get in to a loop .. and never opens.. that means i must flash again the rom .. makes me very nervous because with every phone i had i done the same but never i got bootloop from this .. please tell me what to do to prevent this bootloop next time .
StonebridgeGr said:
Hello guys. I have the Mi Max, the problem came when i root my phone, after rooting, i install a good app from playstore that gives you the opportunity to unistall system apps( always i know which apps i must unistall , like gmail, weather etc ) .. in this phone when i unistall some apps the phone after reboot get in to a loop .. and never opens.. that means i must flash again the rom .. makes me very nervous because with every phone i had i done the same but never i got bootloop from this .. please tell me what to do to prevent this bootloop next time .
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Don't delete apps, just freeze them.
StonebridgeGr said:
Hello guys. I have the Mi Max, the problem came when i root my phone, after rooting, i install a good app from playstore that gives you the opportunity to unistall system apps( always i know which apps i must unistall , like gmail, weather etc ) .. in this phone when i unistall some apps the phone after reboot get in to a loop .. and never opens.. that means i must flash again the rom .. makes me very nervous because with every phone i had i done the same but never i got bootloop from this .. please tell me what to do to prevent this bootloop next time .
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Hi! Probably you have deleted some very important application. As I have no problem to remove I do not need the app from the system and everything works fine.
donalberto17 said:
Don't delete apps, just freeze them.
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with which application? its the same if i freeze them with unistall them? if i freeze them then the apps would open auto by itselfs?
I can't believe that this is really happening.. I froze them with titanium backup but after reboot, the device got on a bootloop.. really I am thinking that xiaomi [email protected]@@ because they don't want you to uninstall system apps. I know which apps I should uninstall, of course I know. Weather/Facebook/Gmail/carousel wallpaper etc..
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I can't believe that this is really happening.. I froze them with titanium backup but after reboot, the device got on a bootloop.. really I am thinking that xiaomi [email protected]@@ because they don't want you to uninstall system apps. I know which apps I should uninstall, of course I know. Weather/Facebook/Gmail/carousel wallpaper etc..[/QUOTE
For miui freeze is the same that uninstall, when some critical app from system don`t work make a conflict with system. One time same it happened to me, I went to folder data with TWRP and deleted file relative TB, then reboot normally. I use an app from PlayStore Root Uninstaller by Kunkunsoft, it shows what apps you could keep
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StonebridgeGr said:
I can't believe that this is really happening.. I froze them with titanium backup but after reboot, the device got on a bootloop.. really I am thinking that xiaomi [email protected]@@ because they don't want you to uninstall system apps. I know which apps I should uninstall, of course I know. Weather/Facebook/Gmail/carousel wallpaper etc..[/QUOTE
For miui freeze is the same that uninstall, when some critical app from system don`t work make a conflict with system. One time same it happened to me, I went to folder data with TWRP and deleted file relative TB, then reboot normally. I use an app from PlayStore Root Uninstaller by Kunkunsoft, it shows what apps you could keep
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Are you sure that this app gonna help me? I don't want any other bootloop. I flash the stock ROM 9 times on 1 week. Really ! I am gonna put on the road that [email protected]@@@@ phone...
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SubwayChamp said:
Are you sure that this app gonna help me? I don't want any other bootloop. I flash the stock ROM 9 times on 1 week. Really ! I am gonna put on the road that [email protected]@@@@ phone...
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of course, you have two types of apps by saying someway, from Google you can delete almost all except PlayServices, PlayStore and look at in your list of apps in setting most necessary have a simple icon of green android, not a special logo by i.e. PlayMusic, those apps don`t delete cause are neccesary to download, sync or other functions relative to PlayStore and in second place you have chinese apps, strangely those with chinese letters you can delete like reader, music, books, shopping but don`t delete micloud or yellow page. This app tell you what you can delete, just be careful, don`t sweeps with all..
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StonebridgeGr said:
of course, you have two types of apps by saying someway, from Google you can delete almost all except PlayServices, PlayStore and look at in your list of apps in setting most necessary have a simple icon of green android, not a special logo by i.e. PlayMusic, those apps don`t delete cause are neccesary to download, sync or other functions relative to PlayStore and in second place you have chinese apps, strangely those with chinese letters you can delete like reader, music, books, shopping but don`t delete micloud or yellow page. This app tell you what you can delete, just be careful, don`t sweeps with all..
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Thanks for the reply. In Google play I can't the app that you describe
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SubwayChamp said:
Thanks for the reply. In Google play I can't the app that you describe
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try root uninstaller kunkunsoft
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StonebridgeGr said:
try root uninstaller kunkunsoft
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This app?
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this is
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this is
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Thank you I will try it
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this is
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Same thing man my device got into a bootloop. I deleted only the apps that says could uninstall. But not all.
StonebridgeGr said:
Same thing man my device got into a bootloop. I deleted only the apps that says could uninstall. But not all.
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But how many apps did you delete, you don't more that 4 or 5 from system, wich can uninstall normal don't make conflict. I was lookinkg at this app and it seems a little extremely, says that contacts provider could be uninstall, I think that not is good, don't follow it blindly, use common sense or things go bad. Solution: this app put deleted app in a folder in sdcard, go to recovery, go to files manager and put again certain apps on /system/apps, probably just 1 or 2 be necessary.
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But how many apps did you delete, you don't more that 4 or 5 from system, wich can uninstall normal don't make conflict. I was lookinkg at this app and it seems a little extremely, says that contacts provider could be uninstall, I think that not is good, don't follow it blindly, use common sense or things go bad. Solution: this app put deleted app in a folder in sdcard, go to recovery, go to files manager and put again certain apps on /system/apps, probably just 1 or 2 be necessary.
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I can't understand very well what exactly you try to tell me. Please tell me again
StonebridgeGr said:
I can't understand very well what exactly you try to tell me. Please tell me again
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Excuse, I was so busy, sorry for recommend this app, it`s a shame, it`s incredibly what apps could uninstall according this app.
What I mean is that this app put deleted files in a folder with same name in sdcard, you can restore them going to recovery and putting them via adb in system again and setting necessary permissions to go on again for not to flash all the rom but probably you`re not familiar with that.
Now "borned" a new build 7.1.12 that it`s better than this version, I flashed it on my device and if you install via fastboot I tell you what apps I remove and I have no problem just that system every time you power on devices warns a security risk, just click understand and go on.
All the apps that you can remove normally from settings/downloaded apps can be deleted, and the next apps that I removed if you want; From /system/app; Chrome, Drive, Duo, MiDiscover, MiPlay..From /system/priv app; MiDrop. Mipub, MiuiHome (if you don`t like, just you must have other launcher), velvet, YellowPage and these that inttegrated with system but I don`t use; Google Photos, Music, Movies, then go to recovery and wipe cache and dalvik cache
SubwayChamp said:
Excuse, I was so busy, sorry for recommend this app, it`s a shame, it`s incredibly what apps could uninstall according this app.
What I mean is that this app put deleted files in a folder with same name in sdcard, you can restore them going to recovery and putting them via adb in system again and setting necessary permissions to go on again for not to flash all the rom but probably you`re not familiar with that.
Now "borned" a new build 7.1.12 that it`s better than this version, I flashed it on my device and if you install via fastboot I tell you what apps I remove and I have no problem just that system every time you power on devices warns a security risk, just click understand and go on.
All the apps that you can remove normally from settings/downloaded apps can be deleted, and the next apps that I removed if you want; From /system/app; Chrome, Drive, Duo, MiDiscover, MiPlay..From /system/priv app; MiDrop. Mipub, MiuiHome (if you don`t like, just you must have other launcher), velvet, YellowPage and these that inttegrated with system but I don`t use; Google Photos, Music, Movies, then go to recovery and wipe cache and dalvik cache
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Neither now can understand what are you saying :/
there have root disabler by kunkunsoft
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StonebridgeGr said:
try root uninstaller kunkunsoft
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Hello guys. I have the Mi Max, the problem came when i root my phone, after rooting, i install a good app from playstore that gives you the opportunity to unistall system apps( always i know which apps i must unistall , like gmail, weather etc ) .. in this phone when i unistall some apps the phone after reboot get in to a loop .. and never opens.. that means i must flash again the rom .. makes me very nervous because with every phone i had i done the same but never i got bootloop from this .. please tell me what to do to prevent this bootloop next time .
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I have the same problem, i uninstalled safety, mi pay, mi credit and getapps, after that i got bootloop, i uninstalled magisk, and phone works fine, but if i try to istall magisk again, i go to bootloader after pressing reboot to system, phone works fine without magisk, but i want to have root
Edge takes up too much space. "Clear browsing data" does nothing and I cannot uninstall it so every time there is an update I have to uninstall every app on the phone to be able to install the update. Only solution is to do a reset of a phone, I did it once and now it seems like I'll have to do it again if I don't find workaround.
It seems like "Clear browsing data" is not doing the proper job and it can't delete some cached data or something like that. Is there way to delete those files manually somehow ?
Hey man its a website for hacking and deployment it's not a windows phone Q&A but you can try app data manage tool it will help you to reset edge
https://forum.xda-developers.com/wi...-apps-data-manager-windows-10-mobile-t3523048
Ferrybigger said:
Hey man its a website for hacking and deployment it's not a windows phone Q&A but you can try app data manage tool it will help you to reset edge
https://forum.xda-developers.com/wi...-apps-data-manager-windows-10-mobile-t3523048
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not recommended because sync not work after reset
Settings-storage-microsoftedge-advanced options. Put a printscreen here.
Ferrybigger said:
Hey man its a website for hacking and deployment it's not a windows phone Q&A but you can try app data manage tool it will help you to reset edge
https://forum.xda-developers.com/wi...-apps-data-manager-windows-10-mobile-t3523048
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Yeah sorry but I don't think anyone else would give me an answer to such question...it's not like I asked how to do a basic thing.
Thanks for the link though, I might try that.
dxdy said:
not recommended because sync not work after reset
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Hmm, just Edge sync ? I don't really use that tbh.
augustinionut said:
Settings-storage-microsoftedge-advanced options. Put a printscreen here.
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I can't post ss because I'm new to the forum, I need 10 posts to post outside links and I cannot attach it either but there is not much to see, when I go to advanced options I get "App add-ons & downloadable content" and it's empty..."There are no add-ons currently installed for this app".
Here?
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Here?
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Hmm, I don't even have that "Storage usage and app reset", I only see "App add-ons & downloadable content"
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Here?
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Oh I'm blind i didn't see attachment button, this is all I see.
I.m on fast ring insider.
augustinionut said:
I.m on fast ring insider.
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I'm on release preview, thats probably the reason why.
Nevermind. Keep trying to clear edge cache.
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Nevermind. Keep trying to clear edge cache.
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I did quite a few times but it does nothing.
Choise what to clear.
thelonglife said:
Edge takes up too much space. "Clear browsing data" does nothing and I cannot uninstall it so every time there is an update I have to uninstall every app on the phone to be able to install the update. Only solution is to do a reset of a phone, I did it once and now it seems like I'll have to do it again if I don't find workaround.
It seems like "Clear browsing data" is not doing the proper job and it can't delete some cached data or something like that. Is there way to delete those files manually somehow ?
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Go to "Clear Browsing Data" and select all the choices that are available there and press "Clear"
If this didn't help, I recommend you to hard reset your phone, if you'll, don't forget to backup your data before.
thelonglife said:
Edge takes up too much space. "Clear browsing data" does nothing and I cannot uninstall it so every time there is an update I have to uninstall every app on the phone to be able to install the update. Only solution is to do a reset of a phone, I did it once and now it seems like I'll have to do it again if I don't find workaround.
It seems like "Clear browsing data" is not doing the proper job and it can't delete some cached data or something like that. Is there way to delete those files manually somehow ?
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Why don't you try to uninstall it with interop tools and then download and install again?
xxJMarian said:
Why don't you try to uninstall it with interop tools and then download and install again?
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How ? I don't see the option to uninstall apps from interop tools...
Ok I found it but it cannot be uninstalled unfortunately.
thelonglife said:
How ? I don't see the option to uninstall apps from interop tools...
Ok I found it but it cannot be uninstalled unfortunately.
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You can uninstall oem apps with interop, there's another way to do it "manually", you have to enter your phone with full system access and delete the app, there are a few guides in this forum on how to do that. What build of w10 are you in? if you are in RS2 there's a new option for that, you can reset the app and clear the data with the reset button.
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You can uninstall oem apps with interop, there's another way to do it "manually", you have to enter your phone with full system access and delete the app, there are a few guides in this forum on how to do that. What build of w10 are you in? if you are in RS2 there's a new option for that, you can reset the app and clear the data with the reset button.
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When I try to uninstall it from interop it starts "Fetching information for packages" and when it finishes literally nothing happens Edge is still there.
Im on 10.0.14393.1066, I don't have that feature, someone already proposed that.
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When I try to uninstall it from interop it starts "Fetching information for packages" and when it finishes literally nothing happens Edge is still there.
Im on 10.0.14393.1066, I don't have that feature, someone already proposed that.
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Try this
App Data Manager
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Try this
App Data Manager
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Yeah, I ended up using that tool to clear the data. It worked :good:
I have apps wanting to update but everytime i try to install the updates they fail.. even installing new apps i get an error saying "Oops something went wrong restart your device and try again Code:0x800703F8" did it before and all i had to do was sync my account settings again but now its not working.. Any help? thanks (Windows phone 10)
0x800703F8 = ERROR_REGISTRY_IO_FAILED
An I/O operation initiated by the registry failed unrecoverably. The registry could not read in, or write out, or flush, one of the files that contain the system's image of the registry.
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looks like you need to do a hard reset
MagicAndre1981 said:
0x800703F8 = ERROR_REGISTRY_IO_FAILED
looks like you need to do a hard reset
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Thanks a reset worked
MagicAndre1981 said:
0x800703F8 = ERROR_REGISTRY_IO_FAILED
looks like you need to do a hard reset
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Ok problem... It's happening again.. What causes this error?? I haven't modified my registry yet after I reset.. Help this is really annoying?
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What causes this error??
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nobody know....
but try uninstall app in Interop Tools and then install from store.
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nobody know....
but try uninstall app in Interop Tools and then install from store.
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i haven't installed it again since i reset but the problem came back.. i originally thought of it being interoptools(never happened before i first installed it) I'm honestly confused.. i really don't want to reset again
Well, I do not know when or how but Whatsapp app is broken on my device! Just not starting anymore, I only get some force crash screen of about 1 second and that's it...
I have a Note 8T with latest EEA software 12.5.4.0 MIUI 12.5, rooted with Magisk, custom recovery (OrangeFox)
Funny story but enabling dual apps for Whatsapp, basically another user, I managed to start and use the app, as a secondary app because the base app is still dead!
Now, my question is:
How do I get Whatsapp to function normally again???
Things I tried:
1. clean cache and data - no fix
2. uninstall/ install app - no fix
3. enable miui optimizations - no fix
4. fix/ repair data partition in OrangeFox recovery - no fix
Is there anything else I could try in order to fix this issue? It might be somehow related with the user part of the data partition? But why only this app is affected then?
I'm just baffled by this turn... don't know what to do anymore...
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MadK9 said:
Whatsapp app is broken
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uninstall/reboot/install
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go to : Data/system/dropbox
delete everything
open wsp and send the generated crash log (from that folder)
Well, tried twice uninstall/ install procedure... Same result...
Thank for this info. I'll try.
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Well, tried twice uninstall/ install procedure... Same result...
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i said uninstall/!REBOOT!/install
when you reboot, the package manager will delete the app leftover
the app crash because there is some data left from a previous version
try deleting "com.whatsapp" folder from
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Holly mackerel!!!
You know how many times I rebooted this device???
But, now, it worked without deleting anything except the dropbox content you mentioned earlier!
It just went smooth, install, setup, restore backup and all without a glitch!
THX A BUNCH!!!
Anyway, I would really love to know how was this possible in the first place as I did nothing specially regarding this app... and found myself in this situation of not being able to use it anymore... why only this app? Was something some update maybe that broke something?
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You know how many times I rebooted this device???
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dosn't matter how many time
what matters here is the timing (reboot after uninstall, once booted install)
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But, now, it worked without deleting anything except the dropbox content you mentioned earlier!
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this has nothing to do with this problem, it has only crash logs of apps ...
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I would really love to know how was this possible in the first place as I did nothing specially regarding this app... and found myself in this situation of not being able to use it anymore... why only this app? Was something some update maybe that broke something?
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it's always the updates
Thanks again loopy!