Black coating durability? - Huawei Watch

For those getting their hands on the black coated version, are you noticing problems with the black coating? I hope you don't: just asking for information.
Black coatings on watches often end up worn up- may take a lot of time and show up as a subtle patina; may be real quick and look cheap and chipped. Depends on the kind of coating (PVD, DLC, even sandblasting if really cheap, ...) and the thickness (too little and the slightest scratch would show the bare metal underneath, too much and it could come away in big chunks). Also depends on luck, and doesn't necessarily depend on the cost of the watch. Will also happen much easier on metal bands...
So, well, I'd really like to hear how that's going up for you who chose the black one

As a European, I don't have the "Get Huawei" reflex, but there, they say it's DLC coated... interesting: if done right, it's really good.

noraef said:
As a European, I don't have the "Get Huawei" reflex, but there, they say it's DLC coated... interesting: if done right, it's really good.
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I don't see how the first statement is relevant but I digress. The DLC coating should hold up just as well of not better than a PVD coating if I recall correctly. I have the stainless silver one so I can't vouch for the DLC on this particular watch but in general its a good way to apply a coating.

Pilz said:
how the first statement is relevant
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Get Huawei seems the official US store for Huawei, so not much sense for us Europeans to go there, and I didn't think there would be more information there than on the generic Huawei site
Otherwise, yes, DLC is generally a lot more sturdy than PVD (even when properly applied, PVD is not very resistant)- to scratches, at least; hitting something can mark it. Of course depends on how it's applied, so it still is interesting to hear what people have to say about their experience with it.

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Get Huawei seems the official US store for Huawei, so not much sense for us Europeans to go there, and I didn't think there would be more information there than on the generic Huawei site
Otherwise, yes, DLC is generally a lot more sturdy than PVD (even when properly applied, PVD is not very resistant)- to scratches, at least; hitting something can mark it. Of course depends on how it's applied, so it still is interesting to hear what people have to say about their experience with it.
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I thought you were referring to Europeans nk wanting to buy one which is my mistake.
I had a PVD finish on a watch and if was very durable so maybe it's just me but I never had it wear over the years.

Hi all,
I had black version (active) that I returned to Amazon after two days because I noticed, during the operation to reduce the wrist lenght, that the coating was not so hard to be removed, at least on the bracelet. Therefore I've ordered a silver version (classic) just not to be regretted in the future...

I suspect it will be similar case as with black iPhones - it will come off and look HORRIBLE.

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CARBON FIBER DESIGN Phone Cover Case

Hello everyone,
This case looks cool. http://cgi.ebay.com/CARBON-FIBER-DESIGN-Phone-Cover-Case-Samsung-Vibrant-/130415205810?cmd=ViewItem&pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item1e5d5a1db2Anyone tried it yet?
to be honest it looks kinda cheap cause its that fake painted carbon fiber stuff lol but me as im not only a phone enthusiast im a car enthusiast as well so the fake carbon fiber doesnt really pull me in but on another note a guy at my work has a rubber type of case i think from tmobile which looks decent and feels ok the buttons are covered by the rubber but still seem to be hard if you know what i mean
Yeah, it's fake and it's one of those snap on cases too. One drop, and it'll fall apart most likely breaking the prongs that keep it together.
i work with CF and looks wise, it looks fine - not sure what weave or weight CF you're used to seeing
as to the hard plastic part, i agree - no drop cushioning and would probably break first time you dropped it
Lol, trying to be like the Carbon Fiber on sneakers .
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i work with CF and looks wise, it looks fine - not sure what weave or weight CF you're used to seeing
as to the hard plastic part, i agree - no drop cushioning and would probably break first time you dropped it
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Lol, sorry but I work with Carbon Fiber as well, been doing it for years. I could tell at first glace that it was fake.
Also, if you would have scrolled down a little it says "Not Real Carbon, it's Plastic."
knew it was fake, just that it wasn't that bad for faux CF
our printer did some signage panels for a tradeshow booth, he borrowed some CF panels we had done - he didn't like the artwork he had on file, so he wanted some to photograph -
couldn't believe what he turned out
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knew it was fake, just that it wasn't that bad for faux CF
our printer did some signage panels for a tradeshow booth, he borrowed some CF panels we had done - he didn't like the artwork he had on file, so he wanted some to photograph -
couldn't believe what he turned out
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Ohhh.... lol
not sure but it looks like you still find my response funny - okay, i'll respond in kind
i'll give a little more definition to my earlier response -i'm not a prima donna, but i have worked with and seen enough carbon fiber, both in person and photographed - and to be frank i can't comprehend how anybody can tell from a photograph whether it's real or not (i know, i read the text, it's fake) but, given not truly being able to tell if it's poor lighting or poor photography. Even with great photography, you;re only working with two shades of the grayscale when photographing CF - i've seen products that were fabricated from CF look fake or look questionable, so i assume you must have the ability to divine it and that's what gives you your sense of superiority
i've been around too long to take guff from anyone - arrogance usually generates guff, and arrogance is usually a substitute for a lack of any real substance
have a good laugh
ill let u knw. i got one on the way and should have in couple days then i will post more on it and attach some better pics of it
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not sure but it looks like you still find my response funny - okay, i'll respond in kind
i'll give a little more definition to my earlier response -i'm not a prima donna, but i have worked with and seen enough carbon fiber, both in person and photographed - and to be frank i can't comprehend how anybody can tell from a photograph whether it's real or not (i know, i read the text, it's fake) but, given not truly being able to tell if it's poor lighting or poor photography. Even with great photography, you;re only working with two shades of the grayscale when photographing CF - i've seen products that were fabricated from CF look fake or look questionable, so i assume you must have the ability to divine it and that's what gives you your sense of superiority
i've been around too long to take guff from anyone - arrogance usually generates guff, and arrogance is usually a substitute for a lack of any real substance
have a good laugh
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No, no, no... the lol was not to you, but to myself for taking your first comment the wrong way. About the photography part, it's what I do for a living btw. One of my clients is a company called 360 Forged. They were one of the first to start the whole Carbon Fiber wheel craze for high end cars.
Though the wheels were not full Carbon Fiber, but more of an overlay. I understand, and seen many times over the process with the resin, vacuum seal, and everything else that goes along with it. Remind you that I would shoot the whole process as well.
I understand it's hard to tell the difference between real, or fake CF by just looking at a photograph no matter what the lighting conditions are. Only reason why I picked this one out as a fake right away was due to it's transparency. I believe it's the second image where the case is facing upwards? You can see that it's semi transparent, and in my experience shooting CF I've never seen that before.
I apologize if you took what I said above as an attack towards your comments, but that truly was not the case.
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although this is very much FAKE painted on carbon fiber and doesnt look anything like the real thing, its a decent knock off. if you want to wait for a few more weeks and are willing to spend $20, samsung actually has a carbon fiber case coming out, its real CF too. I am waiting for the day it becomes available
WilliamStern said:
No, no, no... the lol was not to you, but to myself for taking your first comment the wrong way. About the photography part, it's what I do for a living btw. One of my clients is a company called 360 Forged. They were one of the first to start the whole Carbon Fiber wheel craze for high end cars.
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although this is very much FAKE painted on carbon fiber and doesnt look anything like the real thing, its a decent knock off. if you want to wait for a few more weeks and are willing to spend $20, samsung actually has a carbon fiber case coming out, its real CF too. I am waiting for the day it becomes available
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Where did you see this info cuz if this is the case I'll hold off an snag the Samsung one.
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well i received my carbon fiber case today and its pretty nice for a fake carbon look. it fits very snug on phone and the inside of case is silver and the outside has a little bit of a rubber feel to keep from slip from hand. i give it a 7 out 10 for a good case
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=740574 this look better IMO well at least the battery cover part
i think this one is better imo well it wont let me post urls lol look for skinomi techskin
Got one 3 days ago pretty good for $8 seller ships out fast. Like the feel of it, has a rubber feel, just enough to keep it from falling out of your pocket. Not planning on dropping my phone to test it's duarbility.
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Where did you see this info cuz if this is the case I'll hold off an snag the Samsung one.
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it is on samsung's website and i confirmed it with the samsung accessories rep over the phone. i just have to be patient now and wait for it
here is the link http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/...c_detail&subsubtype=cases-holsters&returnurl=
i couldnt wait for a carbon fiber case so for the time being i got some of that di-noc cf vinyl, and covered one of the spare covers with it. heres what it looks like

New Defy Model?

I got a replacement from Amazon because my earlier defy had a random reboot problem. However now I have two phones with me and when I compare them, the newest replacement seems very plasticky. The black model of european seems to be like a bad paint job of white US model coated with a black paint. Also the volume rocker and power buttons make the plastic sound when pressed.
Is this the latest european model that is being released in the market. If yes, then most of you who bought these pieces have a sub-standard quality of this phone. I loved my old phone and the smooth finish with extra smooth buttons.
Any inputs from anyone?
I have a European version which exhibits none of the symptoms you describe.
Got mine at amazon(.fr) two weeks ago to replace my desire (it fell hard on the floor and the glass is now broken).
I see the exact same symptoms you describe: cheap power and volume buttons, and overall very plasticky look and feel. That was kind of a disappointment. Then i have been even more disappointed when i realized i wouldn't be able to flash custom roms - i miss my cyanogen.
Well, this is a kind of cheap android device and it sure feels cheap. Won't buy any another moto device nor would i recommend it, that's for sure. In the meantime i try to get the best out of it.
Your experiences sure are odd. If you had not both specified that you got your phones from Amazon, I would have thought you had used ebay and gotten some shoddy copies of a fine device.
That said, the phone does use a lot of plastic, but that is something that any review will tell you.
And who does not read at least one review before buying a device nowadays?
The same goes for what can be done, ROM-wise. I checked out XDA Developers before I clicked the final 'Purchase' button, so in that regard there were no surprises for me either.
Sure reviews tell you it uses plastic. But whatever you read, unless you experience it for yourself you don't really realize. Concerning the power and volume buttons, i didn't realize it wasn't normal until i read the op.
Beside, one only really reads what seems to matter at the time of the reading: this is a super-resistant device -- put it under water, throw it against the walls, hell, yeah, i'm all in. That's what got me on board, i didn't really thought about roms, and next time i will pay more attention.
So, yes, i'm a bit disapointed, but Android still is a great toy, even with *that* device.
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Your experiences sure are odd. If you had not both specified that you got your phones from Amazon, I would have thought you had used ebay and gotten some shoddy copies of a fine device.
That said, the phone does use a lot of plastic, but that is something that any review will tell you.
And who does not read at least one review before buying a device nowadays?
The same goes for what can be done, ROM-wise. I checked out XDA Developers before I clicked the final 'Purchase' button, so in that regard there were no surprises for me either.
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I think you dint read my question quite right. What i opined was that my first defy which I just returned back to amazon was a gem. It has those buttons as soft as rubber and the body build itself was different. I used it for 4months and had to give it back to due some hardware problem. Now the one I got yesterday seems a completely different build. Now those are things that no review will be able to tell you right?. Something I thought I will share with other users. It might be that Motorola just started to produce this kind of cheap builds owing to surge in demand.
That said, no complaints on this one too. But i do miss that classic finish and soft soundless buttons.
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Got mine at amazon(.fr) two weeks ago to replace my desire (it fell hard on the floor and the glass is now broken).
I see the exact same symptoms you describe: cheap power and volume buttons, and overall very plasticky look and feel. That was kind of a disappointment. Then i have been even more disappointed when i realized i wouldn't be able to flash custom roms - i miss my cyanogen.
Well, this is a kind of cheap android device and it sure feels cheap. Won't buy any another moto device nor would i recommend it, that's for sure. In the meantime i try to get the best out of it.
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Did you get a BT/BF or blue dot device from Amazon.fr?
I was planning on buying a Defy from Amazon but this is bad news...
Why is it so hard to get a decent Defy... First there was the earpiece problem, now this.
I got mine from clevertronic.de in mid November, think it wasn't even out on amazon.de by then.
I also thought that the power and volume button seemed rather cheap looking... and clacking (at the beginning I didn't know where that clacking sound came from, thought something was wrong with the drive or something).
But until now I thought that'd be normal so I didn't complain.
Really odd.
"I tought this was normal until I read this post"
I don't really understand these people complaining about previously-normal (to them) things. It's like when the fear spreads for a pandemic.
I have got a BT33 black european defy, and I repute the build quality excellent even for that price. Sure, it is plastic, but what did you expect from a €300 phone? Brushed aluminium?
Do you think that more expensive phones are all metal builds?
Just look at the Acer Liquid Metal: you can long see it from the pics it won't be nearly the same build quality of the Defy, that it will screak when held in hand. Despite the name, it only comes with a small strip of metal in the back. I also guess the front glass is not even glass, let alone gorilla glass. And that's for €50 more than a Defy.
Anyways mine has no creaking when squeezed in the hand, the back cover paint is soft-touch and well done, the front bezel is well built, glass is perfectly aligned, back cover not bulging, side covers intact, and the volume keys only make a slight click if I shake the phone.
You're all being too picky.
Mine is an all black European model. The buttons are plastic rather than rubber but they don't rattle about or click, and i've never thought of them as being cheap-feeling.
The paint finish on the screws did start to wear off pretty quickly though.
Also have the european black model, from november.
Plastic buttons that rattle slightly, and frontshell dont fit 100% with the backshell. Everything else looks quite expensive.
For around 300€ with the powerful hardware inside its a catch in my opinion.
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FWIW, T-MO USA just sent me a replacement Defy. Not the Euro model, of course. But the same high quality of my original and has the BT prefix.
Got mine from telstra aus. It's sweet. I've soaked it in beer and dropped it numerous times. Not a scratch!
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scrannel said:
FWIW, T-MO USA just sent me a replacement Defy. Not the Euro model, of course. But the same high quality of my original and has the BT prefix.
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What are you referring to with 'Euro model'? Do you mean the version with the white rubber section, as opposed to it being black?
I wasn't aware either was area/continent-specific, as both can be purchased in Europe.
If you are somehow implying that European build quality is less than.. well, the build quality of where-ever you are, I doubt there is any difference.
To strengthen my argument i am going to post snaps of the two variants tonight. Hopefully my wife should not have mailed it off to amazon.
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Please do, I find pictures help a lot when trying to explain something about the look of a product.
naenee said:
What are you referring to with 'Euro model'? Do you mean the version with the white rubber section, as opposed to it being black?
I wasn't aware either was area/continent-specific, as both can be purchased in Europe.
If you are somehow implying that European build quality is less than.. well, the build quality of where-ever you are, I doubt there is any difference.
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I meant the phone mentioned above with the all black case. Not saying the Europeans don't know how to make good phones since they're most all made in China anyway (I hear there are some made in South America). But the poster was suggesting he had gotten a low quality phone. T-MO in the US only ships the phone with the white case, I believe.
I alos have a European version which exhibits some of the symptoms you describe.
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I meant the phone mentioned above with the all black case. Not saying the Europeans don't know how to make good phones since they're most all made in China anyway (I hear there are some made in South America). But the poster was suggesting he had gotten a low quality phone. T-MO in the US only ships the phone with the white case, I believe.
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Indeed, they're made in Asia - I would have suggested that as a counter, but seeing your reply, that's not necessary.
Ah, I see. I think some materials had to be different due to this phone being sturdier. Plastic and rubber can be very durable.
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Did you get a BT/BF or blue dot device from Amazon.fr?
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I'm not sure what you're referring to with BT/BF and "blue dot device", so i guess that's a no: i didn't get such a phone from amazon.

Just Bought Skinomi Full Body Shield. Beware!!

Skinomi has horrible service. Bought the product on Amazon. At first they acted friendly and responsive about the shipping date, but anything after that they simply ignored my inquiries. Therefore, I decide to post it here to let everyone know. Think twice before you purchase this product.
My review on Amazon:
Arrived on time. However, the seller is not very responsive. The protection shield is not well cut for my international GSM. Appears to be either too small or too big on certain areas. Leaves some openings because the unnecessary parts of the protection bulge out. Very sticky and very hard to put on (took me ages to get it line up correctly BUT STILL many parts are incorrectly aligned). Lots of visible bubbles forming right after applying. Well see if this issue gets resolved itself in a few days as advertised. Overall I decided to live with it since I already purchased it. Might consider return it if things don't go well. Well give more updates on the condition.
Edit on 5/26/12: After one day of usage, the bulging part of the protection attracts dust because of its stickiness inward. Very dissatisfied with the purchase. Decided to take it off and return it at once and degrade it to two stars immediately.
Edit on 5/27/12: Contacted the seller about the issue but receives no replies. Well see if they respond anytime soon.
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1. Is the protector even for the international version? (Make sure, as the U.S version differs)
2. Of course its really sticky, its supposed to be.
3. Lots of bubbles forming after application is correct.
Where are the buldges you speak of?
chrisjcks said:
1. Is the protector even for the international version? (Make sure, as the U.S version differs)
2. Of course its really sticky, its supposed to be.
3. Lots of bubbles forming after application is correct.
Where are the buldges you speak of?
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Yes I checked it. On the product page it clearly says "International GSM"
The bulges I speak of, due to the back side protector being too big, some parts just "bulge" out, looks like a hill or some sort, at the end of the protector.

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED - Zagg InvisibleShield HD

I will post this in both Galaxy s3 sections because people need to know. This is a good read to know about their misleading advertising that their employee uncovered (unintentionally?) for me.
I am sorry I do not have any photos, because my camera just cant pick up the issues correctly...
I suggest to stay away from this product. It is not like the original invisibleshield.
It is very smooth, which is better than the original, but IT IS NOT DURABLE! The slightest pressure by my fingernail left an indent that has not gone away. I tried the same thing on my brother's original invisibleshield on his HTC Desire and it would not even leave an indent in the first place. If it flexed a little bit, it would heal itself right away.
My screen looks like I have been using the phone for 2 years! and I BABY the phone. Has always been in a case (which does not touch the screen), never shares my pocket with anything else, is face down in my pocket, hasnt been dropped yet (knock on wood) and have not bumped anything into the screen. I do not use a stylus.
I have had the protector on since June 27th and there are many indentations on the screen! It dents extremely easily and it does NOT HEAL.
I have been going back and forth with a Zagg employee in customer service and I will show the correspondence here, but I will remove his/her name.
ME
I have a new Samsung Galaxy s3 and I am wondering what the difference is between the regular invisible shield and the HD. I bought the HD and have had it installed for about 4 days now. It is very smooth which I like, but my brother has a standard invisibleshield on his HTC Desire and although it is not quite as smooth, it does not show any scratches.
The InvisibleShield HD shows scratches quite easily. I applied very light pressure with my fingernail to the corner and there was an indent. It still has not gone away since 3 days. On my brothers device, there is no indent shown as all with the same amount of pressure from my fingernail.
It seems to be less durable and more prone to damage, yet a higher price.
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ZAGG
Thank you for contacting ZAGG, where we are Zealous About Great Gadgets! My name is Luis and I appreciate the opportunity to assist you.
Thank you for the purchase of the invisibleSHIELD. I'd like to confirm that the HD is a thinner than the original, which helps with the smoothness and clarity. However, due to the same fact, it does not absorb impact or scratches as well as the original invisibleSHIELD. It still has the original's ability to repair itself but it will take longer to do so. Furthermore, we normally recommend not to asses the quality of any invisibleSHIELD until after a couple of weeks from installation, if it was successful. This is because the adhesive is still curing on to the surface of your phone and may be more prone do damage. If the adhesive is disturbed while it's drying, it will most likely stay that way.
I would recommend to allow an extra week to determine whether or not your invisibleSHIELD will need to be replaced, which is very likely due to the curing procedure your invisibleSHIELD has endured. If so, you may place a warranty request to have a new one sent to you.
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I don't really see with what the surface of the screen protector has to do with the adhesive. The indents left in the screen protector are from absolute minimal pressure. I don't see how you are charging a premium for this product when in 2 weeks the screen will look horrendous being covered in indents.
Making it thinner but HIGHLY susceptible to indents is a terrible idea. I have also looked online briefly and I'm not the only one with this issue with the HD.
Zagg is generally known with quality products but this is crazy. A SCREEN PROTECTOR that can't withstand the smallest of pressure/contact/impact. Can you imagine if someone uses a stylus on here? I it would look like an ice rink after a week of crowds skating on it.
This product was not well thought through and I hope it is either redesigned or not made any more. My brand new phone and screen protector looks like I've owned it for over a year. (and I baby my phones. They never share a pocket with anything else, always use a case) for I have no idea how these marks could have even managed to get on there with that being said. I know only one I made on purpose to test it and it's at the bottom away from the screen, but there are many other marks on the screen. I hope it's not the COTTON FIBRES from my pocket making them...
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ZAGG
I am sorry to hear that you feel this way. However, it is unreasonable to compare different products and expect them to perform the same as others when they are in a different category. Different products are introduced to the market to satisfy different customers and provide a wider range of protection products. There will never be a "one-size-fits-all" product from any company.
To further elaborate on the adhesive part, if you were to remove part of the adhesive, you will see a noticeable line/scratch on the bottom (adhesive) side of the invisibleSHIELD because the adhesive has been removed/disturbed/stretched. As mentioned, the invisibleSHIELD is more vulnerable to damage while it is still drying.
We have also been selling the HD invisibleSHIELD for the iPhone 4/4S and iPad 3 (3rd Gen) with great success. In the iPad 3, it is not uncommon for customers to use fine stylus, such as the JOT stylus, which has a fine point.
I believe that the reason why you are not completely satisfied with the invisibleSHIELD you own is because you are comparing it to other products, as stated. However, if you are not happy with it, I would recommend seeking assistance from the retailer it was purchased from and inquiring about their return process.
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First off I want to address your comment of "There will never be a "one-size-fits-all" product from any company. " I guess you have not heard of SGP? They Flex HD wet applicator is incredibly clear and smooth..and THIN. There are many products that are just as smooth and "glass-like" as the HD, without warping to the slightest contact. Also many other screen protector brands are excellent, from Rearth, to Ghost Armour, and on, and on.
Your interpretation seems to be that, there is no "one size fits all" because your new HD is very weak and you pretty much admitted that when you said, "Thank you for the purchase of the invisibleSHIELD. I'd like to confirm that the HD is a thinner than the original, which helps with the smoothness and clarity. However, due to the same fact, it does not absorb impact or scratches as well as the original invisibleSHIELD."
Also, this insults me even more when you tell me that, " it is unreasonable to compare different products and expect them to perform the same as others when they are in a different category"
I am surely not comparing products in a different category and I'm shocked to even see you write that... They ARE in the same category unless Zagg is magically creating their own category. It is in a wet application screen protector category. ACCORDING TO YOU though, the difference is that... its weaker... because its thinner.
That is even more interesting and let me tell you why.
Here is a link to ZAGGs post on THEIR website - http://www.zagg.com/community/blog/...-for-iphone-and-ipad-with-an-invisible-video/
Look familiar?
"We took the original invisibleSHIELD, improved the clarity, and added a glass-like surface."
Ive spent over an hour searching online through various sources and nowhere does it mention the fact that it does not absorb impact or scratches as well as the original IS. Yes the fact that is is thin is mentioned, but that fact alone should not lead someone to assume that this MORE EXPENSIVE and new product is any WEAKER than the original. If its weaker but clearer/smoother... it should be the same price!
ON SECOND HAND lets take a look at my box for the invisibleshield HD !
"THE invisibleSHIELD HD DELIVERS THE SAME PATENTED, AWARD-WINNING, AND VIRTUALLY INDESTRUCTIBLE PROTECTIVE FILM AS THE ORIGINAL PATENTED invisibleSHIELD, WITH PREMIUM FEATURES INCLUDING ADVANCED CLARITY AND A GLASS-LIKE SURFACE."
Wow, I may have just stepped on my own toes there, it does not even mention that it is thinner! Also in HUGE letters above that it says "THE ORIGINAL, MILITARY GRADE FILM NOW IN HD"
It says its the SAME FILM as the ORIGINAL, but with PREMIUM features (clarity, smoothness). This is misleading advertising at its best.
Keep in mind I purchased the shield based on reading the box in the store, and now after the fact I am searching online and still doesn't really help ZAGGs case.
What else does it say on the box? SCRATCH PROOF
It also mentions that if its ever damaged, it will be replaced for the life of the product. I think scratches/indents are considered damage and since my first email, this thing has nearly twice as many issues with it now.
I laugh at the same "nano-memory technology" on this packaging which is what you advertised on the original IS as well because NONE of the marks have gone away.
Also, interestingly enough, there is no mention of what you told me, "This is because the adhesive is still curing on to the surface of your phone and may be more prone do damage. If the adhesive is disturbed while it's drying, it will most likely stay that way."
Seriously? You dont mention that to the consumers? So this terrible screen protector will always look terrible now, You want us to leave the phone is a protective box for over a week allowing it to cure? That never happened with the original IS. This is the worst advertising for a product.
This is nothing against YOU because you did not manufacture or create the product packaging and advertising (that I know of), and you did shed some light on the misleading nature of this product for me, but don't tell me this is in a different category and that its not fair to compare to your original IS. Thats insulting my intelligence. I can read the packaging of the product sitting here in front of me that claims, again, ""THE invisibleSHIELD HD DELIVERS THE SAME PATENTED, AWARD-WINNING, AND VIRTUALLY INDESTRUCTIBLE PROTECTIVE FILM AS THE ORIGINAL PATENTED invisibleSHIELD, WITH PREMIUM FEATURES INCLUDING ADVANCED CLARITY AND A GLASS-LIKE SURFACE."
It CLEARLY says its the same, original film, but with added features. That would mean its in the same category, or if you want to play the category game, it would be in a premium category BASED ON THE PACKAGING AND ADVERTISING since it does not mention that it is weaker.
I was going to just return this to BestBuy and get them to refund the difference and just go with the original invisbleshield, but because of our correspondence which has made me look closer at the brand and its advertising for this product, I refuse to support this product. I will get a refund and purchase a better, wet protector applicator with glass like smoothness, military grade, great clarity, at a better price, and that will not indent like play-doh - and trust me, there are enough choices for this CATEGORY of screen protector on the market.
ps. this is not an isolated incidence, I have a friend who also purchased this and agrees with me.
pps. Your comment about your Apple products - if they have the same HD material that the Galaxy s3 has, I find it hard to believe that theirs arent weak as well. Although at the same time, people I know with Apple products dont really complain about any accessory they buy for them even when they break in the first week or have other faults.
I will be making these issues publicly known and voicing my displeasure with the brand and product.
Thank you and have a good day.
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Well this is an interesting post I just read through the whole thing and I have an Inivsa HD on my SGS3 and I have loved it. I just tried to rape it with my fingernail and it rubbed right out so I don't know where your coming from but if that did happen it would be very frustrating indeed. Where did you buy it from by chance?
Brosa said:
Well this is an interesting post I just read through the whole thing and I have an Inivsa HD on my SGS3 and I have loved it. I just tried to rape it with my fingernail and it rubbed right out so I don't know where your coming from but if that did happen it would be very frustrating indeed. Where did you buy it from by chance?
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I bought it from Best buy and even had them install it.
Because I had them install it, I have 30 days warranty on it, where they will just remove it and re-apply for me if anything is wrong with it.
I will be going and getting him to do that, and if it happens again, refund for me.
Maybe a bad batch came to Canada?
At least you can understand my frustration. It looks like I used a stylus on the shield, and I dont even own a stylus... lol
I thought everyone should know the unadvertised claims for the product at least! Its apparently thinner and weaker, and thats coming right from a Zagg employee!
EDIT: the fact that yours is fine actually frustrates me even more because he pretty much said that its perfectly normal that mine is dented. Which is clearly not true because yours is not. They cant admit a defect in even ONE film?
I had one on my GS2 and it acted the same. Never buy from them again. Over priced and feel horrible.
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wow you pretty much owned them. +++ for this
personally i think under normal usage you will never need a sreen protector. a tpu case is more than enough.
pnda said:
wow you pretty much owned them. +++ for this
personally i think under normal usage you will never need a sreen protector. a tpu case is more than enough.
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Thanks for that comment, I just had to take some frustration out on them. Its not fair to compare their invisibleshield HD to their invisibleshield? haha... come on!
I just like to take the extra step to ensure that if anything sharp comes in contact with the screen, it will not damage it. I put screen protectors on the screens of my digital cameras too.
Well you should be a lawyer or soething,because you sounded very smart lol.
Id end up just telling them to fu** off and want my money back haha.
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ScubaSteev said:
Well you should be a lawyer or soething,because you sounded very smart lol.
Id end up just telling them to fu** off and want my money back haha.
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Haha thanks a lot.
I will be getting my money back through Best Buy anyway, but I needed to say something to these guys about their misleading claims.
Who doesnt want a product that is as good as the original, PLUS smoother and clearer?
Well... if that was only the truth!
I'm not sure why you had such a bad experience, but I love Zagg products. I even have a Droid Razr Maxx with a Gorilla Glass screen with a Zagg InvisibleShield.
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I'm not sure why you had such a bad experience, but I love Zagg products. I even have a Droid Razr Maxx with a Gorilla Glass screen with a Zagg InvisibleShield.
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Those would be the original Invisibleshields. My brother has one on his HTC Desire and its great, but this HD one on the s3 is terrible.
Make a tl;dr for this?
Wond3r said:
I bought it from Best buy and even had them install it.
Because I had them install it, I have 30 days warranty on it, where they will just remove it and re-apply for me if anything is wrong with it.
I will be going and getting him to do that, and if it happens again, refund for me.
Maybe a bad batch came to Canada?
At least you can understand my frustration. It looks like I used a stylus on the shield, and I dont even own a stylus... lol
I thought everyone should know the unadvertised claims for the product at least! Its apparently thinner and weaker, and thats coming right from a Zagg employee!
EDIT: the fact that yours is fine actually frustrates me even more because he pretty much said that its perfectly normal that mine is dented. Which is clearly not true because yours is not. They cant admit a defect in even ONE film?
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Honestly man the reliability of there sheilds from batch to batch is horrific. I work at Best Buy and every time I have to install a sheild I will go through at least 3 of them to find one without a defect. Sounds like an exaggeration but its the truth I write off more Invisasheilds than anything else and its not because of me boching the install its because of them seriously having a defect. Once you get a good one though they are pretty nice.
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Honestly man the reliability of there sheilds from batch to batch is horrific. I work at Best Buy and every time I have to install a sheild I will go through at least 3 of them to find one without a defect. Sounds like an exaggeration but its the truth I write off more Invisasheilds than anything else and its not because of me boching the install its because of them seriously having a defect. Once you get a good one though they are pretty nice.
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The guy seemed like he did a good job, he did it right infront of me. So I guess I will try my luck on another one since I wont be paying.
They dont care that you go through that many? How much is Best Buys cost for 1 invisibleshield?
I didn't read most of this thread, or even the OP, BUT, I had an evo lte for a few weeks with the new zagg on it, hated the screen protector. Exactly what OP says about scratches and indents staying indefinitely. After 2 weeks it just looked like crap.
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Wond3r said:
The guy seemed like he did a good job, he did it right infront of me. So I guess I will try my luck on another one since I wont be paying.
They dont care that you go through that many? How much is Best Buys cost for 1 invisibleshield?
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No they don't care man they know that most of them are defective. The cost on the HD ones is around $6 if my memory serves me correctly its not bad but still we just send them bag to Zagg.
Very interesting to hear from a best buy guy I'd love to know what kind of defects you're talking about, and so I can look out for them when I go to get mine installed. I have a zagg booth in the mall near me, would you recommend that I get it done there, or at the best buy across the street?
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thanks for the heads up to the community. I think market is the cheapest thing to sell, rather than a good resolved product which delivers what it promises. it takes a good lot of effort to check and double check if they sold what they are saying, and i think you've done that for us regarding this brand~
ironically, bad marketing goes twice as far and three times as fast =)
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I will post this in both Galaxy s3 sections because people need to know. This is a good read to know about their misleading advertising that their employee uncovered (unintentionally?) for me.
I am sorry I do not have any photos, because my camera just cant pick up the issues correctly...
I suggest to stay away from this product. It is not like the original invisibleshield.
It is very smooth, which is better than the original, but IT IS NOT DURABLE! The slightest pressure by my fingernail left an indent that has not gone away. I tried the same thing on my brother's original invisibleshield on his HTC Desire and it would not even leave an indent in the first place. If it flexed a little bit, it would heal itself right away.
My screen looks like I have been using the phone for 2 years! and I BABY the phone. Has always been in a case (which does not touch the screen), never shares my pocket with anything else, is face down in my pocket, hasnt been dropped yet (knock on wood) and have not bumped anything into the screen. I do not use a stylus.
I have had the protector on since June 27th and there are many indentations on the screen! It dents extremely easily and it does NOT HEAL.
I have been going back and forth with a Zagg employee in customer service and I will show the correspondence here, but I will remove his/her name.
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I can attest to this gentleman's claim!
I bought the same product and had the exact same problem. The material is almost rubber like and gets indented extremely easily. I just thew mine away after a week. Dont buy!
Advantageous said:
I can attest to this gentleman's claim!
I bought the same product and had the exact same problem. The material is almost rubber like and gets indented extremely easily. I just thew mine away after a week. Dont buy!
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I take back all my previous claims the Invisasheild HD on the SGS3 is terrible. I am experiencing the exact same "skating rink" look and feel now after moderate use. I baby my phone like crazy and I get all of these marks on it that will not go away. My sheild was good for the first week as said but now it is like this. Not to mention I went through 3 Invisasheild HD's at my store to find this one and it turned out like this after 2 weeks. I have now gone to the Matt finish Anti-Smudge sheild and couldn't be happier. This is a real problem that Zagg has to look at. I will update with some pictures in a little here once I get my macro lens to work.
@GamerMYJ, the only advantage in my experience is BestBuy isn't afraid to go get another shield and write it off for you, well at least I'm not and it shouldn't be an exception at another store & I speak on behalf of my store in Canada.
I also have this problem my question is though if just the screen protector is damaged or is this actually also damaging my phone screen?

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Somewhere out there, an industrial designer is weeping... (No disrespect, if you're this concerned about protecting that area than there must be others that feel the same way.)
One would hope that it was designed to be durable from its inception, since it's quite clear that this area will likely receive many impacts over the course of the device's life, whenever the phone is put down without caution.
I hope Spigen produce one.
redneck engineering.
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Somewhere out there, an industrial designer is weeping... (No disrespect, if you're this concerned about protecting that area than there must be others that feel the same way.)
One would hope that it was designed to be durable from its inception, since it's quite clear that this area will likely receive many impacts over the course of the device's life, whenever the phone is put down without caution.
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The fear is real. Really hoping that one was a freak accident. Ringke Slim case, apparently.
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The fear is real. Really hoping that one was a freak accident. Ringke Slim case, apparently.
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I've been on the fence about returning mine because I've been wary about how much protection it provides. Looks like I have the answer to the question I already knew.
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The fear is real. Really hoping that one was a freak accident. Ringke Slim case, apparently.
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Wow. I certainly hope you're right and this was just a freak accident. According to the thread on reddit, it only dropped about 1m, from a table onto the floor...
This is just one report (albeit a concerning one) - and it's still far too early to gauge if there is an issue here. At this time all we can do is wait and see (and try not to drop our phones).
On the subject of cases, bumpers, etc. I'm with the minority of those who go without - I like to use the device as it was designed. While I can appreciate the protective benefits a casing may offer, it's always visually apparent when there's a case on, (even the clearest/thinnest ones), and there is always some increase in size when it comes to handling, no matter how minimal. With the elephantine devices we have today, the 'bare' phones are big enough already. The 5X should have had much smaller top & bottom bezels, there's no need for it to be this tall. I wouldn't resent the large phones so much, but there are very few, if any, decent options for those of us who prefer smaller (around 5.2") phones.
I do use pouches/sleeves, but of course the phones are exposed when I'm actually using them, or if they're sitting on a table outside of their pouch. Over the course of a few years, I have accidentally dropped my phones a few times (Galaxy Nexus & Oneplus One, not the 5X thus far), and they have never received anything more than a few scuffs & minor scratches, of course their camera housings didn't protrude as far as that of the 5X.
Personally, I won't be concerned about the durability of the camera or the device in general until it's clear that there's an issue.

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