Do i need a custom Kernel to get that capability?? I have a OTG cable that works for connecting a mouse, keyboard, thumbdrive etc and it has a port for power but the tablet does not recharge.
So i'm wondering if i need a custom Kernel or maybe the cable is defective or something.
If you know of one of those cables that work, please let me know.
Thanks in advance.
I have this cable out of China:
treetop777 said:
Do i need a custom Kernel to get that capability?? I have a OTG cable that works for connecting a mouse, keyboard, thumbdrive etc and it has a port for power but the tablet does not recharge.
So i'm wondering if i need a custom Kernel or maybe the cable is defective or something.
If you know of one of those cables that work, please let me know.
Thanks in advance.
I have this cable out of China:
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I use a Otg Cable with an Usb Stick and a Usb Mouse,works fine with 4.4.2 and 4.2.2 with Stock Kernel
letschky said:
I use a Otg Cable with an Usb Stick and a Usb Mouse,works fine with 4.4.2 and 4.2.2 with Stock Kernel
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And also charges simultaneously? That's what the OP is asking for.
Slimport adapter outputs HDMI signal and lets you charge the tablet simultaneously, but besides that... nothing else on stock ROM I imagine.
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And also charges simultaneously? That's what the OP is asking for.
Slimport adapter outputs HDMI signal and lets you charge the tablet simultaneously, but besides that... nothing else on stock ROM I imagine.
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Bummer! That's what i was afraid off.
Hello I have the same problem! : (
I installed the tablet in my car but you can not use the charger + OTG simultaneously.
You have to wait for someone to change the KERNEL as they did for the Nexus 7.
mannyy said:
Hello I have the same problem! : (
I installed the tablet in my car but you can not use the charger + OTG simultaneously.
You have to wait for someone to change the KERNEL as they did for the Nexus 7.
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Nice setup! :good: That's exactly what i want to do. I can connect a mouse and thumb drive but no power. I was trying to work-out how to use a switch or relay or something to switch between otg and power but i haven't came up with anything yet.
treetop777 said:
Nice setup! :good: That's exactly what i want to do. I can connect a mouse and thumb drive but no power. I was trying to work-out how to use a switch or relay or something to switch between otg and power but i haven't came up with anything yet.
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Hi everyone,
I had same problem!
My pad is rooted, 20b, stock kernel, Finally, find out solution.
I bought IBUFFALO usb with AC power around 15USD. 4 Slots for USB 2.0 and 1 double micro usb. Worked with mouse, Bluetooth keyboard, external drive with USB 2.0 only, usb 3.0 not work. Just for your info.
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... I was trying to work-out how to use a switch or relay or something to switch between otg and power but i haven't came up with anything yet.
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Difference between normal and OTG USB cable is that OTG has pins 4 (sense) and 5 (ground) shorted and on regular cable pin 4 is not in use. If you put a switch between these two pins you can switch between regular USB cable for charging and OTG for connected devices.
Some apps can be found on Google Play Store that claim to be able to switch between or enable simultaneous OTG and charging, but most are for specific devices or group of devices, none for G Pad 8.3. Most promising is maybe Faux123 Kernel Enhancement Pro (3.77€ and requires Root+Busybox+SuperSU).
Too bad our tablet has no secondary charging port (like Sony has magnetic charging port for example), but least intrusive would be to use powered USB HUB, let it power the connected devices so the battery drain on the tablet will stay low.
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Difference between normal and OTG USB cable is that OTG has pins 4 (sense) and 5 (ground) shorted and on regular cable pin 4 is not in use. If you put a switch between these two pins you can switch between regular USB cable for charging and OTG for connected devices.
Some apps can be found on Google Play Store that claim to be able to switch between or enable simultaneous OTG and charging, but most are for specific devices or group of devices, none for G Pad 8.3. Most promising is maybe Faux123 Kernel Enhancement Pro (3.77€ and requires Root+Busybox+SuperSU).
Too bad our tablet has no secondary charging port (like Sony has magnetic charging port for example), but least intrusive would be to use powered USB HUB, let it power the connected devices so the battery drain on the tablet will stay low.
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Thanks for that - Very good info! Allow me to pick your brain a little more: Looking at the cable i have (in the OP), do you think that by just connecting an external power (red and black) to the cable just before going into the tab would work somehow to give it power.
It's intreging what you said about being able to switch from regular USB (that can supply power) to OTG just by jumping those wires. I'm trying to picture something in my mind to accomplish what we want but the "light bulb" haven't came on yet - any suggestions?
I want to use the tab in the car PERMANENTLY so i need a way to charge it while behind the dash. I would want to use a mouse as well so OTG is a must.
In any case, i'm going outside right know to split open that cable and see how it's connected inside, maybe then the light bulb will come on in my head.
treetop777 said:
Thanks for that - Very good info! Allow me to pick your brain a little more: Looking at the cable i have (in the OP), do you think that by just connecting an external power (red and black) to the cable just before going into the tab would work somehow to give it power.
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Try it out, you got the cables!
When pins 4 & 5 get shorted the tablet may be configured only to output power, not receive it. I have only OTG adapter cable and the supplied USB charging/data cable, so I cannot test this stuff.
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It's intreging what you said about being able to switch from regular USB (that can supply power) to OTG just by jumping those wires. I'm trying to picture something in my mind to accomplish what we want but the "light bulb" haven't came on yet - any suggestions?
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I would buy micro USB male plug, some heat-shrink tubing with glue, switch (3A) and split OTG adapter or HUB. Cut off the male plug fom the adapter, solder on the new plug to the adapter cable as normal USB, solder on the switch to pins 4 & 5 of the plug, check it for continuity and shorts, test it on the tablet, if good - secure the new plug to the cable with heat-shrink tubing.
EDIT: Possible solution with resistor described here
Our device, if it can be tricked this way, may require different resistor from the one used in the tutorial (usually in 36KΩ-200KΩ range).
Ok, I'm chopping it up! I spliced-in the red and black wires from a USB cable into the OTG cable (in the OP) and sure enough the tab gets power. However, it no longer detect the mouse or any thing else (kind of expected). Tomorrow i will try bridging pin 4 and 5 and see what happens. If that don't work, i will try the resistor. :fingers-crossed:
I have read that devices on OTG get polled regularly, but charging is not, i.e. if you start charging and after that short the pins 4 & 5, it will continue charging and you can use your OTG devices. Hope this holds true to the G Pad as well.
Isn't micro USB a "standard"....??
Then GEEZZ why do one manufacturer thinks it's ok to eliminate a pin completely! i assume that when i pay for that cable, i will get ALL 5 PINS even if one is not connected - rip-off! :laugh: This manufacturer not only didn't connect pin 4, it was eliminated completely; stopped me in my tracks! Fortunately, i have an extension that have of all things ALL 5 WIRES CONNECTED! Imagine that! But now, i don't have any time to chop-it-up until tomorrow. With the 5 wire cable, i will short the yellow and black wires but I'll check here first to see if I'm warned against it.
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Hi manny your car kooks awesome. I have one question. How you connect your speakers from the car with the G Pad. iam also interested to built a GPad in the car !
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Yep weneed more info on this as i would like to fit my pad in the van,, how did you get fm radio on there.
Nothing good to report. Connecting the power wire to the OTG cable and shorting the 4&5 pins does nothing different. I can have it charging and when i disconnect power, it then detects the mouse (that's a good thing) but when i plug the power back in, nothing happens! Ideally it would disconnect the mouse and start charging again but no-go. Having the 4&5 pins shorted or not makes no difference.
Still have a couple things i will try before i give up, one is the resistor and the other is a more simple OTG cable.
Will report back.
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Nothing good to report. Connecting the power wire to the OTG cable and shorting the 4&5 pins does nothing different. I can have it charging and when i disconnect power, it then detects the mouse (that's a good thing) but when i plug the power back in, nothing happens! Ideally it would disconnect the mouse and start charging again but no-go. Having the 4&5 pins shorted or not makes no difference.
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I understand that you would want the cables all hidden behind the dash in a car and can't be connecting and disconnecting plugs all the time, at the most just flip of a switch should make things work. The resistor trick would be ideal, if it works.
What's the exact sequence you did things in?
- Mouse and charger connected to the tablet simultaneously with pins 4 & 5 not shorted, tablet charging - short pins 4 & 5 - what happens?
- Only charger connected, pins not shorted, short pins and then connect mouse...
- Mouse and charger connected to the tablet simultaneously with pins shorted, mouse working - unshort pins...
- Only mouse connected, pins shorted, unshort pins and then connect charger...
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I understand that you would want the cables all hidden behind the dash in a car and can't be connecting and disconnecting plugs all the time, at the most just flip of a switch should make things work. The resistor trick would be ideal, if it works.
What's the exact sequence you did things in?
- Mouse and charger connected to the tablet simultaneously with pins 4 & 5 not shorted, tablet charging - short pins 4 & 5 - what happens?
- Only charger connected, pins not shorted, short pins and then connect mouse...
- Mouse and charger connected to the tablet simultaneously with pins shorted, mouse working - unshort pins...
- Only mouse connected, pins shorted, unshort pins and then connect charger...
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I would have to record in what sequence i do things to remember but it seem i have done every combination possible. I do remember doing these sequences after a fresh reboot of the tablet and BTW i made a simple cable out of a know working (single) OTG cable and splicing-in the red and black from the cable that has 5 wires connected, leaving the pin 4 wire disconnected and extending a pigtail from the black wire so i could short the yellow and black to hopefully force OTG:
- Power plugged in and mouse plugged-in then plug the cable into the tablet - it detects the mouse but does not charge.
- in the above state, shorted the yellow and black wire - no change.
- separated 4/5 then disconnected the mouse leaving power connected (expecting that the tab will then switch to charge but) - nothing. The mouse did disapear but the tab did not start to charge.
- shorted 4/5 (for ****s and grins) and as expected - nothing.
Again with a fresh tablet:
- with (ONLY) power connected to the cable, inserted the cable into the tablet - it started charging.
- in that same state, connected mouse - mouse was NOT detected but the tab continued to charge.
- with mouse plugged in, shorted 4/5 - no change (charging but no mouse detected)
THIS IS THE IDEAL SITUATION BUT JUST HALF WAY:
Rebooting the tablet with both power and mouse connected and cable inserted, the tab starts by accepting the charge (no mouse) but get this, plugging-out power makes the tab switch to the mouse right away! That would be good except that plugging the power back in does NOT make the tablet switch back to power, in fact, nothing happens, the mouse just continues to be detected.
If i had 2 cables, one only for power and the other only for OTG, i could pull one out and replace it with the other and both functions would work; i don't understand why that same "switching" can be recreated within one cable??
This is beyond me, the last thing i will try is following your sequences to the letter and with the resistor, if that doesn't work - i give up! :crying:
budalageo said:
Hi manny your car kooks awesome. I have one question. How you connect your speakers from the car with the G Pad. iam also interested to built a GPad in the car !
Sent from my GT-I9505 using xda app-developers app
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i have buy a Sony mex bt4000U ... http://www.sony.it/support/it/product/MEX-BT4100U
install in rear a Tablet.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Y1QXAsSUtc
and work whith APP REMOTE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEfG3Zdf7HM
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I have used this !!
have disassembly and install !!! work whit switch !!
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This is really strange. I can't connect my new Tab S 10.5 to my imac with the usb cable. I've replaced the cable and power brick but to no avail. When I connect the device to the power, there's a small red "x" on the battery icon and no charge is going on. But when I use the same cable and charger on my S5 it works, charges and connects to my imac. What am I doing wrong with the tab s?
Expecting its charging needs to match your phone...
I believe that the red x on the battery indicator shows that the USB source does not meet the power requirements to charge the device (can't deliver enough current).
I get this when I plug my Tab S 8.4 into my monitor USB port (PC not Mac), but it doesn't stop my Tab S from connecting via USB. So while I have the red x I can still transfer files to and from the device and it doesn't seem to loose any charge, it won't recharge. I hope that makes sense!
I think that the connection problem that you are seeing and the red x are unrelated.
Hi all, I have the Nexus 5 and wish to connect the TP-LINK TL-WN722N USB Wifi Adaptor but I am having no success, I purchased a Y Cable to connect it to my phone but when i plug it in nothing happens on screen or no light comes on the Wifi Adaptor, I plugged my charging cable into the other end of the Y Cable but it doesn't charge the phone, I thought my cable must be faulty but i've now used 3 more and all with the same outcome. Is there something i need to do to my phone to get this to work? The port on the phone works fine as it connects to my computer and charges perfectly when i just use a normal cable. If you can help me it would be greatly appreciated.
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Hi all, I have the Nexus 5 and wish to connect the TP-LINK TL-WN722N USB Wifi Adaptor but I am having no success, I purchased a Y Cable to connect it to my phone but when i plug it in nothing happens on screen or no light comes on the Wifi Adaptor, I plugged my charging cable into the other end of the Y Cable but it doesn't charge the phone, I thought my cable must be faulty but i've now used 3 more and all with the same outcome. Is there something i need to do to my phone to get this to work? The port on the phone works fine as it connects to my computer and charges perfectly when i just use a normal cable. If you can help me it would be greatly appreciated.
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from doin this on my nexus 7 to use nethunter kali with the wifi adaptor i would say you need a rom and kernel that support usb-charge and host. stock android doesnt support wifi adaptors . u can access and use the adaptor in a linux kali but you cant use it in stock android to say browse the web instead of using on-board wifi chip/card.
edit : Also most of the y-cables you can buy from e-bay dont actually route power to the phone/tablet and to the attached device, the power only goes to phone, i had to make my own charge/host usb cable with a soldering iron and heatshrink tubing. this cable charges the phone/tablet and provides steady power to the attached devices (wifi adaptor, mouse,keyboard,hard-drive) the ones i mention previously from e-bay dont provide enough juice to power the adaptor.
You need a custom kernel with module loading, root and your wifi adaptor´s module, altough my WN723N and a cheap old ethernet adaptor worked out of the box(chroma rom with elementalx kernel)
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You need a custom kernel with module loading, root and your wifi adaptor´s module, altough my WN723N and a cheap old ethernet adaptor worked out of the box(chroma rom with elementalx kernel)
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Many thanks for your reply, I will try these now and see how i get on
Hy guys. I am trying to make a dashboard install, and eveything went well ( I did the battery mod, installed the Timur's Kernel). All worked good, the tablet went to sleep when i stopped supplying power to the OTG Y cable (only stopped the power, NOT unpluging the OTG cable from the tablet). When I wanted to clean the setup, I once again powered the tablet and expected to shut down when the power was no longer provided, but surprize, it showed that it was still powered, and it kept showing that until I unpluged the OTG cable.
I started a hardware debug, checked the voltages, checked the cables etc. I tryed with a normal usb cable, that one worked ok (the charging status changed to not charging, the tablet stayed awake because it is not an OTG cable, and Timur's kernel needs a OTG cable for the FI function to be enabled). Then I tryed connecting the powered OTG cable, remove the power (still showing that the battery was charging), and then cut the ground wire that goes to pin 4 (SENSE), which made the tablet think it was not charging anymore.
Have any of you encountered this issue before? Have you found any solutions? I am going crazy here.