[Q] FE170CG FonePad 7 - advantages of KitKat or Lollipop over JellyBean? - Asus Fonepad 7

Dear all,
Since a few month I’m the owner of a Asus FE7010CG (FE170CG) FonePad 7, that I am happy with. It is running the Android version 4.3 JellyBean (stock), which I have read it can be upgraded to 4.4 KitKat or even to Android 5 Lollipop.
Therefore regarding the battery life and the sensitivity on radio and wifi, I am wondering how the 2 newer versions behave compared to 4.3, is it really worth doing the upgrade? Can somebody please share such information based on his own experience? Thank you!

Hi,
I bought mine last year but didn't use much until recently. I have 4 GB version. I upgraded to 4.4 2 a month ago and it was running pretty well - better than 4.3 - battery performance improved, things become more smoothI . Then just 2 weeks ago I upgraded to 5.0 version and I can say battery life has improved a lot now. It lasts more than 2 days easily with light calling, some videos and 7-8 hours of active Wi-Fi. Haven't used radio so can't say about it. But WiFi is working fine. I just use 'Play to' feature and streamed a video to my Smart TV. My only complaint is due to upgrade, my internal memory has become lot low. So much that I can't install more than 8-9 apps. It keeps prompting that storage is getting full. I'm considering to root it and remove extra apps which came with upgrade.

sunny155 said:
Hi,
I bought mine last year but didn't use much until recently. I have 4 GB version. I upgraded to 4.4 2 a month ago and it was running pretty well - better than 4.3 - battery performance improved, things become more smoothI . Then just 2 weeks ago I upgraded to 5.0 version and I can say battery life has improved a lot now. It lasts more than 2 days easily with light calling, some videos and 7-8 hours of active Wi-Fi. Haven't used radio so can't say about it. But WiFi is working fine. I just use 'Play to' feature and streamed a video to my Smart TV. My only complaint is due to upgrade, my internal memory has become lot low. So much that I can't install more than 8-9 apps. It keeps prompting that storage is getting full. I'm considering to root it and remove extra apps which came with upgrade.
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Thanks a lot sunny155 for your answer!
So the battery performance is better on KitKat over JB and again better on Lollipop over KitKat. Now on Lollipop the battery is lasting you more than 2 days, but how long was lasting you on JellyBean?
I keep wifi on all the time on JB, although the connection is done in about 40-50% of the total daily time (24h) and the battery is lasting about 2-3 days with e-mails and occasional web-browsing, but no calls or videos.
Some people on this forum were complaining about a 2-3 sec annoying lag on Lollipop. Does this apply to your case too?
I am not familiar with KitKat or Lollipop, but I think that blocking the access to the SD card is specific not only to Lollipop; was that not initiated in KitKat?

The biggest advantage is probably the Heartbleed fix.

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[Q] Battery life poor since JB

Hi everyone,
My One X used to have brilliant battery life. I didn't turn on the screen that often throughout the day, but I was able to regularly check the news, send and receive texts, make a few calls and - crucially - keep my Wifi on for the entire day. With this setup, I was regularly getting 4 or 5 days of usage without having to charge my phone. However, as soon as JellyBean came along as an official update, I grabbed it... since then, I'm lucky if I get a day and a half out of it before I need to plug it into the wall.
I'm not running any custom ROMs: just whatever I get through official O2 OTA updates. Battery usage says that 36% of my drain is due to Android OS, with another 20% due to Maps. The rest are tiny, only 2 to 5%. Now I understand that a new version of Android might make some new demands on the hardware, but from what I heard, the update was supposed to improve battery life if anything. Even with the new Power Saver feature on, the difference is minimal, with only a few hours standby time gained overall.
Can anyone suggest anything to remedy this, or is this fairly normal? It's not world-ending and perhaps I was just really lucky to get 5 days of use in the first place, but thought I'd ask the experts before I grin and bear it. Thanks in advance for any help or advice.
19 hours and 40 minutes into this usage cycle, I've got 57% remaining. So it's shaping up to be about 40 hours of usage, down from 120 at its peak. Right now, it's also saying that Android OS has used 99% of my battery... and nothing else is on the list.
Does no-one have any idea what's going on?
Did you make an hard reset when you updated your phone?
This is why when you upgrade your phone to a newer Android version it is better if you perform a hard reset
AW: [Q] Battery life poor since JB
I suffer(ed) also under heavy drain due to maps since update to JB. But I'm convinced it's cause of Google Now. Disabled it yesterday and will check whether it gets better or not. Try disabling gnow and see if it gets better. I also had issues with gsam battery monitor in case you use this.
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Would you consider rooting because custom roms like blade have great battery life
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k-c-0 said:
I suffer(ed) also under heavy drain due to maps since update to JB. But I'm convinced it's cause of Google Now. Disabled it yesterday and will check whether it gets better or not. Try disabling gnow and see if it gets better. I also had issues with gsam battery monitor in case you use this.
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Thanks for this. Your suggestion got me checking for other people having issues with Google Now and battery life. I disabled it as you suggested and I'm definitely seeing an improvement. It's still not as good as it was, but I think I might be able to squeeze more than two days out of it now.
Do you have stock rom? Because I've just upgraded to JB yesterday and flashed a custom rom, and since then my battery is like 3 times more powerful.
You should definitely switch to a custom rom... Ever since I upgraded to JB I've seen a massive improvement in my battery life.. From barely making it through the day to almost 2days of my typical of usage.
Google Now does seem to kill battery as it polls the Google maps app a lot.. So I usually open task manager to make sure it isn't running in the morning background.
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[Q] T-Mobile Note 3 post Lollipop Battery issues

Hi,
I have been having battery life issues with my Note 3 post Lollipop. Phone is not rooted, wifi off, gps off, almost all functions appear to be reduced to absolute minimal options, and yet the battery won't last a whole day any more. I do have to have Bluetooth on at all times for my Gear S ( which by the way, also no longer lasts all day since the update!)
I have checked which functions/apps appear to use the battery most, but it appears to vary very day. Sometimes it is bluetooth , other times the Android system, but after those two, the Unified Daemon and then Android OS follow.
I have not changed any settings from before, and yet the battery will typically last only 9-10 hours, with minimal use.
Sometimes when talking on the phone, it gets so uncomfortably hot after perhaps 5 min, I ended up putting it on speakerphone.. This is not with every call, just every now and then.
Any suggestions? I don't want to take it back to T-Mobile just yet, even though I am eligible to jump to a new phone, I want to wait for the new Note in the fall...
Thanks for any suggestions...
According to other smart watch users, including the Gear 2 Neo, there are no ill effects on the watch from disabling the daemon. Clear the cache from the application itself once it's been disabled and reboot. Users here report at least 20-30% battery life improvements.
http://www.sammobile.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25820&page=4
Thanks, giving that a try now. But since this battery drain happens on my Gear S as well, and one of the main drains is bluetooth, I wonder if there is an issue there in addition to the daemon...
I read somewhere the unified daemon is what gets you your news updates, accu weather, etc notifications.
When I first got the Note 3, it bugged me that in order to have a decent battery life, I had to disable all the things that make this phone so cool....seems there is a point you might as well not have one. Just venting my frustration now...
How did you update to 5.0? I did the OTA update, and had similar issues. I did a factory reset, and now it's awesome.
Factory reset to the rescue. ! :thumbup:
Pp.
My battery works better on stock lollipop than it did on KK with custom roms. 1up lollipop ?
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My battery works better on stock lollipop than it did on KK with custom roms. 1up lollipop ?
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I agree. My battery is better with lollipop. Easily get 1.5 -2 days low use

Thinking of buying G3. How widespread is the slowing down issue?

Hi guys,
My GF needs a new phone. G3 looks like an awesome phone on paper. But browsing forums I see people complaining of phone slowing down after a few minutes of usage to almost a crawl. Is it a real issue? Does flashing to CM/Vanilla android fix the issue?
When using the phone non stop how long will each battery last? Will 2 batteries last for the entire day browsing over LTE? i.e. if each battery drains in 4 hours, then answer is no if you commute.
I've never experienced the slowdown you described. The device has 3GB of RAM, so either those cases were by people who were maxing out the memory by never closing apps, or they were lying. As for battery, I am averaging about 30 hours per charge with 3 hours of screen on time. I don't take any precautions to save battery (Greenify, turning off wifi/data when not in use, power save for anything other than when my phone drops below 15%). This has been my absolute favorite Android phone to date and I've owned it since Day 1.
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2GB ram version received some complaints early on...
Lollipop 5.0 has greatly increased performance and once you debloat it, its really a great phone. My 3GB D850 is lag-free and great battery life. very few phones left that come with manageable size at 5.5", sdcard, and removable battery.
hollisnh said:
2GB ram version received some complaints early on...
Lollipop 5.0 has greatly increased performance and once you debloat it, its really a great phone. My 3GB D850 is lag-free and great battery life. very few phones left that come with manageable size at 5.5", sdcard, and removable battery.
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Thanks guys! Any recomendations on debloat? CM? Vanilla Android? Google Play edition rom?
t10 said:
Thanks guys! Any recomendations on debloat? CM? Vanilla Android? Google Play edition rom?
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Hey dude,
Still very happy with my G3, stock rom can get a tiny bit laggy when doing heavy stuff, debloating is just getting rid of the stuff on there you dont need/use - i used systemappremover.
Installing another launcher can work really well too, i tired 6-7 launchers and tested all for speed and found Nova launcher to be the best of the bunch.
Im also running ChupaChup rom 4.2, its based on stock but has been debloated and tweaked, amazing rom.
Good luck.
I found that even without root and custom rom just changing launchers made a huge difference to improve any lag. Overall not bad at all.

Lolipop Memory Issues Poll: T-700

I can't make a poll thread from Tapatalk I guess, so I'm just looking for comments.
I got the notice to download the 5.0 update today. I'm hesitant to do so due to the many issues reported for other devices. I have a 2012 Nexus 7 that had serious issues until google released the update to 5.1. I do not want to repeat that experience (it took months of waiting).
I have the US version of the 8.4 inch Tab S.
For those of you who have installed the update, have you noticed any issues, specifically memory related? I am not looking for opinions about whether you like Lolipop, so I would request only comments regarding what differences, if any, you notice in how the tablet is running after the update.
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I have the U.S. Tab S 8.4 WiFi and updated to Lollipop. It's running smooth and snappier than KitKat. I haven't noticed any memory issues with it. Battery life is good so far, on par with how it was under KitKat for me.
Thanks. I would hope samsung would make certain the update would not cause this problem, but you never know! It's pretty well documented at this point.
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Mine reboots constantly. Garbage.
So we've got one person who updated without problems and one who is having reboots. Who else has taken the update and what experience did you have?
Also, does anybody know what the options are to downgrade if it turns out that 5.0 does have a lot of problems?
No problems on my S 8.4. I also have Touchwiz Lollipop (5.0.1) on my Galaxy S4 with no problems. I read somewhere that the memory leak issue was only a problem on AOSP builds, not OEM (Samsung, HTC, etc) releases. I don't know if that's true. I'm 100% happy with Lollipop on my S 8.4.
all good here. like the changes from lollipop and touchwiz doesn't seem as bad from what people make it out to be. wish you could uninstall some apps tho.
Originally, I had a 2012 Nexus 7. After installing 5.0, it became unusable. I tried almost everything I read to no avail. Actually, it had started slowing down and having and having random app crashes b4 that, but it got much worse after installing 5.0
I gave up on it and bought the Tab 8.4, which I'm loving. Several weeks later, I went back to the Nexus 7 and used Wug's Toolkit to wipe and install 5.1.1. That has actually seemed to fix my issues with that tablet. Now I'm thinking perhaps I didn't need to get the Samsung, but oh well. I like the larger screen (I always said tablets should come in 8 inches, not 7), the rear camera, and the responsiveness. I'm keeping it!
Because of my negative experience with 5.0, I was hesitant to install this update. However, I installed it yesterday and so far (after 24 hours), it seems to be fine. I like being able to see my notifications on the lock screen again. It still appears to be snappy. It has not been long enough for me to judge battery time yet. So far it looks good.
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killerb777 said:
all good here. like the changes from lollipop and touchwiz doesn't seem as bad from what people make it out to be. wish you could uninstall some apps tho.
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Why not root it? Then you could uninstall anything you want to.
After the update it was all good with my tablet, smoth and fast.
Now it's getting worse, Nova launcher is always crashing, sometimes it reboots by itself, lag came back and some apps freeze...
I hope that Samsung release a new update.
Does the OTA update work with root installed?, I have the T800.
John.
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Why not root it? Then you could uninstall anything you want to.
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There's some apps/games that don't work on rooted devices so I had to keep it stock.
I updated OTA to 5.02 and had no problems. Tab is as quick as before.
I noticed a slight increase in ram usage (from around 1400 to 1700 mb) Now after medium use it hangs around 2GB. Until now I didnt see a problem with that.
Battery usage seems a little better (but thats alway subjective) I had a problem that the charging percentage went from 85% to 100 % in a couple a minutes. Now, connected to USB it charges 1% every 5-6 minutes. and it does so also from 85%-100% There are some slight things I dont like about 5 but again thats to subjective.
One of the things I loke is that its now possible to switch of notifications per app. I hated apps that which me "Goodbye and hope to see you soon, sleep well, say hello to your wife"
HANSB57 said:
I updated OTA to 5.02 and had no problems. Tab is as quick as before.
I noticed a slight increase in ram usage (from around 1400 to 1700 mb) Now after medium use it hangs around 2GB. Until now I didnt see a problem with that.
Battery usage seems a little better (but thats alway subjective) I had a problem that the charging percentage went from 85% to 100 % in a couple a minutes. Now, connected to USB it charges 1% every 5-6 minutes. and it does so also from 85%-100% There are some slight things I dont like about 5 but again thats to subjective.
One of the things I loke is that its now possible to switch of notifications per app. I hated apps that which me "Goodbye and hope to see you soon, sleep well, say hello to your wife"
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So, if I understand, you're saying that you're seeing higher RAM usage with 5.0, but it hasn't caused any problem? Also, for me charging on KitKat is very fast. Does your tab charge as fast on Lollipop as it did before?
woody1 said:
So, if I understand, you're saying that you're seeing higher RAM usage with 5.0, but it hasn't caused any problem? Also, for me charging on KitKat is very fast. Does your tab charge as fast on Lollipop as it did before?
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that is correct,. i see higher ram usage but no ill effect
on usb it charges approx the same kitkat and lollipop 1.% every 5 6 minutes i hardly ever charge on charger but that is a lot quicker
After three days I agree with HANSB57. However, my opinion is completely subjective. I have not measured anything.
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Unstable after OTA lollipop update on Samsung Tab S 8.4
HANSB57 said:
that is correct,. i see higher ram usage but no ill effect
on usb it charges approx the same kitkat and lollipop 1.% every 5 6 minutes i hardly ever charge on charger but that is a lot quicker
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I also experience frequent reboots using certain apps or even general Web browsing. I just restored to factory default so I will see if things improve. So far I've already experienced one crash after doing this. Hopefully a follow up update is in the works.

Tab S 8.4 LTE - Should I upgrade to Lollipop?

Hi all
Question is in the title really. Should I upgrade my Tab S 8.4 LTE to Lollipop?
I'm worried about performance issues, battery life etc, as KitKat seems fairly stable. Does Lollipop increase performance/battery life or make it worse?
I have not rooted my device as I want to be able to send it to Samsung in case of any problems under warranty.
Also, my friend has a Tab S 8.4 WiFi and he has Lollipop on it, however I find the colours/contrast are worse on his tablet then when compared to mine. I didn't notice this before when he had KitKat. Does Lollipop have more contrast etc compared to KitKat?
Lastly, if I did upgrade to Lollipop, can I officially go back to KitKat without rooting etc, and will this be a hard process?
Thanks
You can go back you have to download kitkat frimware from samsung site then flash it with odin
rookie12 said:
You can go back you have to download kitkat frimware from samsung site then flash it with odin
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Thanks. Do you have a link which shows all of the firmwares that are available on Samsung's website?
Also, do you recommend upgrading to Lollipop or staying with Kitkat? The font and colours look smaller and washed out on Lollipop compared to Kitkat or is that just me?
Here is the list with lollipop and kitkat http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-T705/ it is really on you buddy try flashing lollipop see if you like it keep it dont go back to kitkat it is really a personel thing im on lollipop
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Here is the list with lollipop and kitkat http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-T705/ it is really on you buddy try flashing lollipop see if you like it keep it dont go back to kitkat it is really a personel thing im on lollipop
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Do you have a Tab S 8.4 too?
And also, how can I get the official EE 4.4.2 KitKat Firmware? Are the firmwares on that page from EE? (I have selected UK)
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-T705/EVR/
here is the exact link, then click on 4.4.2, dated Sep 29, 2014, to download the firmware
I suggest that you upgrade. Lollipop is now fairly mature on the T705, there are a few deodexed ROMs which you can use Xposed with, and even f2fs, the new Samsung fast file system for flash memories. My Tab runs now way faster and smoother than with KK.
I have Tab S 8.4 T705 LTE version
I upgraded to Lollipop using odin without any issue ( had to format) and i used ( helium ) for backing up my apps+appsData
after i upgraded performance has been MUCH increased 40%
battery life increased by at least 60%
moving between screens 50% faster
I have a SIM card on it and running it on 2G with no data connection and I only use WI-FI for net
i use it for ( movies , games, reading) , approx 2-4 hours/day, with JB doesn't complete a full day, but with LP 2 days with no charging are easy and some times 3 days
in JB 2 hours movie cost approx 40% of the battery , in LP 20%
i played criminal case game for 1 hour , in JB at least 40% - 50% , but in LP 20%-30%
deep sleep is MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH improved in Lollipop
i didn't root and i'm not using any kind of battery saving or what so ever
im utilizing whatever comes built-in with it from samsung or google and no 3rd party
hope this info will useful for u
@hamzab
Computerized said:
I have Tab S 8.4 T705 LTE version
I upgraded to Lollipop using odin without any issue ( had to format) and i used ( helium ) for backing up my apps+appsData
after i upgraded performance has been MUCH increased 40%
battery life increased by at least 60%
moving between screens 50% faster
I have a SIM card on it and running it on 2G with no data connection and I only use WI-FI for net
i use it for ( movies , games, reading) , approx 2-4 hours/day, with JB doesn't complete a full day, but with LP 2 days with no charging are easy and some times 3 days
in JB 2 hours movie cost approx 40% of the battery , in LP 20%
i played criminal case game for 1 hour , in JB at least 40% - 50% , but in LP 20%-30%
deep sleep is MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH improved in Lollipop
i didn't root and i'm not using any kind of battery saving or what so ever
im utilizing whatever comes built-in with it from samsung or google and no 3rd party
hope this info will useful for u
@hamzab
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I think you mean KK not JB(Jellybean)
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yes i meant KK not JB
whatever is called , i meant 4.4.x

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