What are you upgrading from and looking forward to on the 5x? - Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So as the Nexus 5 successor, I'm curious to see how many people are actually moving from the 2013 version to the 5x. And just for kicks, sound off what you're upgrading from and why.
I've held out with my LG Optimus G circa 2012 (stuck on Jelly Bean still, thanks Sprint!) so honestly I'm looking forward to
- timely and first-run updates
- Android Pay
- fingerprint security (no more lock screen)
- improved camera
- fast charging
- carrier freedom / project fi

I sold my N5 for the N5X. I also own a S6E and a Note 4.
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I'm going to be upgrading from a Galaxy S3 that I got in July 2012. I'm still on jelly bean as well and really cannot wait for my 5X to get here.

From Moto X 2014 here. I intended to stay with N5 until another 5 inch nexus was released, but shattered the screen in March. Moto X 2014 pure edition ended up being the temporary replacement due to size of N6. I've actually really grown to like the Moto, but I miss being first in line for updates. If not for delayed updates I'd just stick with the X for another year, which is still a possibility if the N5X fails to impress me.

I'm coming from the N6. My wife's GS4 kept losing wifi signal, couldn't cast anything, and just was a pain in the @$$. So, she's getting the N6 and I'm getting the N5x.

T-Mobile Band 12 support/VoLTE/WiFi Calling (though two of those are still slightly up in the air), and I'm curious about how good the camera will be even though I'm not a huge photographer. Other than that, I guess just bored with my Nexus 5. I'm firmly in the "N5X isn't much of an upgrade" camp.

Although most wouldn't consider it an upgrade, I am pretty sure I am getting rid of the Droid Turbo for the Nexus 5x. My biggest reasoning behind it is that I am on Verizon and I loved my old galaxy Nexus back in the day. I know the phone specs itself is probably a downgrade, but I love the freedom of Nexus devices the most. Being able to rom if I want, getting official updates quicker if wanted (or switching between the two), slightly thinner/lighter phone, support, not bound by verizon...overall, I just love the Nexus line and I can't do a 6" phone (including framework).
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I'm upgrading from my broken Galaxy Nexus running stock rooted 4.3. I had hopped on the Kit Kat bandwagon when it was first released, installing some roms, but I found it too buggy for my tastes, and went back to stock 4.3. I'm very excited to skip Lollipop and upgrade directly to Marshmallow and get ride of my lagging mess of a phone!

I'm coming from a Nexus 5 and looking forward to not having a cracked screen

Coming from 2013 Moto X DE. Been a great phone but the battery is about shot, and its pretty much done getting updates. I'm on Verizon (really the only carrier in my area) and I will only buy phones that I can unlock the bootloader, which unfortunately means I'm pretty limited in my selection lol.
Nexus 6 and 6p seem way to big for me, so I think the 5x will fit the bill nicely.
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I'm coming from the Galaxy S Relay. The last of its kind in QWERTY sliders, but I knew I would have to give up the keyboard sooner or later. Looking forward to having my T-Mobile wifi calling working in AOSP and everything in general will be a huge upgrade. Also I think the fingerprint scanner will be pretty cool and I'll actually lock my phone now.

jgummeson said:
I'm coming from the Galaxy S Relay. The last of its kind in QWERTY sliders, but I knew I would have to give up the keyboard sooner or later. Looking forward to having my T-Mobile wifi calling working in AOSP and everything in general will be a huge upgrade. Also I think the fingerprint scanner will be pretty cool and I'll actually lock my phone now.
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blackberry is making an android phone with a slide out keyboard if you still want one

Coming from G4 presently. This year I've been using N5, N6 (sold), GS6 (sold). I'm really looking forward to the the 5X, it seems like the perfect phone in every way for me

Coming from the n6. Looking forward to having a phone that will fit in my pocket. Had the OG n5 and really liked the build. Fingerprint scanner and super duper fast charge (or whatever it's called) are big positives

Wife's HTC One M8 with a shaky (at best) usb port, and daughter's HTC One M7 with cracked screen....lucky them I guess.

Pre ordered 5x as soon as page went live. I'm coming from htc one m8 and m7 before that. Looking forward to quick updates

I had a Moto X 2014 Pure, but bought a n5 because Moto X is not that great. Motorola has been crappy as of late too. I gave the Moto X to my bro as he doesn't care as much about updates or phones in general like I do
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I had a Moto X 2014 Pure, but bought a n5 because Moto X is not that great. Motorola has been crappy as of late too. I gave the Moto X to my bro as he doesn't care as much about updates or phones in general like I do
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Moto X gets updated almost as quick as nexus devices ..

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Moto X gets updated almost as quick as nexus devices ..
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I believed that before, but that's false. After 5.0, they disappeared. I got 5.1 awhile after 5.1.1 was on Nexus devices. The stagefright patch was after Samsung's one. That's saying something
If Motorola claims it gets fast updates, they should say in the fine print "initially"
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I have an HTC One M8 right now, running DigitalHigh's GPE ROM. I had a GNex before that, and was waiting on the Nexus 6. When I saw it was gonna be expensive and huge I went HTC. I really hate Sense, so the GPE ROM was a necessity. Had some issues, but mostly it's been good. I'm excited to go back to pure Android without having to screw with it (even though I'll still screw with it).

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Upgrade from the GNex?

Hey guys I've been considering upgrading my phone to something better.
I'm currently using the GNex (obviously since I'm in this forum).
Are there any phones you can recommend right now that would be a good upgrade from the GNex? Or should I just wait until the Fall when Google releases their next Nexus phone? Presuming they are actually doing this...
People rave about the SGS4 but when I read about it seems very, very gimmicky.
Does anyone know for sure if Google is releasing a new phone in the Fall, or when specifically? I'm hoping it will follow the same price strategy as the Nexus 4 did, without so much hardware distribution problems....$300 top of the line unlocked Android phone...I'll be all over it this time because to me the difference between a GNex and a Nexus 4 was not huge...but this would be a 2 year difference now.
Just wait. You have the Note 3, Motorola X, possible updated HTC One, and other powerful devices coming. The Galaxy S4 and current HTC One is about to be obsolete in terms of hardware which is crazy.
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If LG will make the new NEXUS ,then i would go for note 3 ,
Plz if anyone has any news about the up-coming nexus ?
I upgraded to the S4 and am 100% satisfied although I would advise you wait a little bit longer for the rumoured devices to come out.
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looking at the motoX currently as well. For what it's worth, my dad just picked up the S4 and it is a great phone, but if you can afford to wait, you lose absolutely nothing. Don't like the Moto X, you can get the S4.
Well I just upgraded to the HTC one. It really is an awesome device, and sense 5 is an excellent skin. No lags or over the top intrusions like previous versions of sense.
The build quality is incredible. The most beautiful feeling when u pick it up in your hands. Premium. And it's a looker too. I won't even go into the twin front facing stereo speakers. They are something too.
Its the first smartphone I've had with a non removable battery as well. Battery is good for the average day comfortably.
I would say go for it. It's got excellent specs to match as well. 2 gigs of ram and quad snapdragon 600. Can't go wrong.
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Well I just upgraded to the HTC one. It really is an awesome device, and sense 5 is an excellent skin. No lags or over the top intrusions like previous versions of sense.
The build quality is incredible. The most beautiful feeling when u pick it up in your hands. Premium. And it's a looker too. I won't even go into the twin front facing stereo speakers. They are something too.
Its the first smartphone I've had with a non removable battery as well. Battery is good for the average day comfortably.
I would say go for it. It's got excellent specs to match as well. 2 gigs of ram and quad snapdragon 600. Can't go wrong.
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Yep. I did the same over the weekend. Couldn't be happier. All my friends either had the galaxy S3/S4 or an iphone, so I wanted to be different. I gotta say this phone is beautiful and very professional looking.
Build quality is great. Rooted and flashed a custom rom not even an hour after I got home. Not real big on Sense, but I can manage with it.
I still have my Gnex, in case I start to feel nostalgic and want to go back to that
The Nexus 4 is still a great device, and should be relevant for some time to come. Also, since you have a Galaxy Nexus, you probably aren't against rooting. Get an S4, or an HTC One, root it, and make it a Google Edition device. Or just flash an AOSP based rom on it.
There's always something coming out in the next few months. Figure out what features are important to you, and find a phone that matches those features.
if anything right now then I'd go with HTC One, or wait to see what the next nexus will be.

[Q] What phone next?

I love my GNex. Running Slim Bean 4.3 latest (highly recommended). Love the device, and it's still in minty condition. Love the totally open platform, timely updates and vibrant developer/user community. Have the T-mobile $30 pre paid plan and it's an excellent value that I want to stay with. Phone is soooooo smooth and pretty much has everything I want.........except LTE.
One of these days, I'll feel the need to upgrade the device for this feature alone. It might be in 6-12 months, certainly not tomorrow.
What's my best option for GNex + LTE in another device?
Nexus 4? Wait for Nexus 5? Galaxy S 3/4? Slim bean support would be a plus.
Google edition phones seem to fit into what you like. I jumped to a s4 from att and honestly can't be more pleased. But I'm sure in 6 to 12 months many things could tilt the smartphone balance. I would say go for the phone with the features you desire and then look into the development side. The S4 Dev is slow but also has solid mods Roms and kernels where many people would just be copying work or making it harder. Just a few things I thought about jumping from my nexus. But as you can tell a new phone did not keep me away. That allows me to play with android 4.3 and then have a quad core touch wiz device.
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I have been using my GNex for over 1 year now and it has been a good fit for me. After looking at S4, it seem to be more powerful handset and camera is awesome.
However camera being not so good, is the only drawback I found in this phone. Hopefully the nexus 5 or whatever new device from Google should address this thing. May be u should wait for early next year when Google comes up with the new phone. It's only a speculation that they would be launching one next year.
Let's see what the new Nexus and Note III hold .
If I'd have to make the change today, and to be honest I thought of it, I'd stay away from:
- Samsung - poor build quality, too much plastic
- lack of microSD slots - microSD cards are VERY cheap compared to internal upgrades so that kinda puts on a side the Nexus program
On the other side, these seem like a good option:
- Motorola - pretty good build quality, the posibility of having a qwerty slider (but only with an unlocked bootloader) - Moto X, the future Droid 5
- Sony - openness, pretty good quality - Xperia Z, whatever takes its place
Just my two cents..
The HTC One is a beautiful device and very fast. The camera is quite OK on stock ROM (and with the camera software ported to vanilla Android), but it's a bit meh with the AOSP camera software.
I like the S4's specs and it looks quite OK, until I see its back; it's so darn glossy...
If it would be available in the Netherlands, I would go for the Moto X; it has such a bunch of nifty features on an almost vanilla Android. Combined with great battery life, it would be a fun daily driver.
So really, I'm waiting for the Nexus 5 as I think the Note 3 will have the same awful plasticy back as the other Samsung devices (thankfully the GNex doesn't). The Play Store Nexus 4 is a steal for the price over there these days too, but I'm in a country where it's not possible to buy hardware in there
Myself having a s4 my lady a s3 and sister in law s2 and lets not forget the nexus I dont see samsungs build quality low. Sd card was a big thing that bugged me about the nexus. Also something to consider. You can always wait for the next best device... but you will always be waiting because there will always be something better next. Get a device you want and use the hell out of it
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Well, after the Nexus 4 price cut, it seems a pretty sure bet that there will be a new Nexus phone within a the time frame of a couple of months.
Considering the flak the Nexus 4 received for not having (accessible) LTE, as well as the new Google Play edition phones packing T-Mobile LTE, it would be surprising if the new Nexus phone didn't have it.
Considering you're on a T-Mobile plan without subsidized phones, the Nexus device should be an obvious competitor.

Galaxy Nexus: Do I need an upgrade?

So through work, I have acquired the moto x dev edition for verizon. My gnex is going to a good home (my father). So here are my thoughts which I am going to post on my blog. The main question, is it worth upgrading the gnex? Honestly, if you are buying a phone outright I do NOT think its worth it unless you care about a few new things. The gnex actually performs nearly as good as my new moto x (assuming you have rooted and customized it to). Here is my review:
I currently have 2 verizon phones - the galaxy nexus and the moto x from verizon. Here is what I have done to both phones before I give my review:
Gnex - I have rooted it and installed the latest 4.4 nightly from cyanogenmod. I have installed pacrom, aokp, etc as well and AOKP is definitely my favorite ROM but I am giving this phone to my father and think CM will be easiest for him as it updates itself through an OTA update.
Moto x - I have rooted it, installed Xposed (for gravitybox), deleted bloatware, and got it tether ready.
Reviews:
Speed/lag - I never noticed lag with my motox. Now that I have the moto x I am noticing where there was lag on my gnex. However, I dont think most people would notice it. It is not significant and doesnt make the phone perform any better/worse.
size - both are around the same size. the moto x is a bit smaller and screen appears to be the same size.
camera - i didnt notice a difference here and i dont really use the cams much either.
battery - much better on my motox. I get about 24hrs more. I think i got around 12-15 hours on average on my gnex and am getting 36+ on my moto x. i did have the 2200 size on my gnex too. this could be a breaking point for many people but i was able to go through the day and just charge each night with my gnex.
tethering - tethering was simple on my gnex. i just pushed the button and it works. it worked with a million tethering apps too. the moto x was not easy. it does not work with any of those apps. i had to go in and work in terminal to get tethering to work. i have a feeling i will need to do this with each OS upgrade too. I am not looking forward to it. It was not something a beginner will be able to easily do.
bloatware - none on the gnex. tons on my moto x. i had to delete it all but again this was easy once rooted.
active display - this is awesome. it is on both phones though. on the moto x its just automatically there. on my gnex i need to download dynamicnotifications app. i think each version (the app vs the native moto x app) each have some advantages over one another. this will be a preference thing but both basically function in the exact same way.
moto connect - Now this is new to me and I am really loving it. I can text - send and receive texts from my browser. This is really awesome as I work from home and dont alway have my phone on me. I can also take calls this way too. Very awesome. It could be worth upgrading for just this feature alone.
Dev support - tons of dev support for the gnex. it cant really be beat except for N5. Moto x seems good too just dont think it will ever be as good as a nexus device.
Company support - none for the gnex. phone is past its 18 months. seems like motorola is doing a great job with the moto x and I have a feeling that they will support longer than the standard 18 months given how they are still pushing this phone.
Overall that is my review. I dont think I really needed to upgrade my gnex. It was performing nearly as well as this new phone. I think it has another 1-2 years of life easily. If you do have the money though, it is worth the upgrade but its definitely not necessary.
Here is my blog post: http://raypastore.com/wordpress/2013/12/galaxy-nexus-vs-moto-x/
I'm with you, I love my Galaxy Nexus. My brother has a Droid Ultra he picked up after destroying his phone, and I gotta say my Nexus is better. People on this forum complain about being stuck with a Galaxy Nexus, I don't get it, this is the best phone I've ever played with.
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I'm with you, I love my Galaxy Nexus. My brother has a Droid Ultra he picked up after destroying his phone, and I gotta say my Nexus is better. People on this forum complain about being stuck with a Galaxy Nexus, I don't get it, this is the best phone I've ever played with.
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yea i think overall that if you are on verizon and do not want to lose unlimited that its just not worth upgrading. the gnex is such a good phone. i am moving on to my moto x but it definitely is not a significant upgrade thats for sure.
I don't understand why GSM users are still buying up the Galaxy Nexus when they should be purchasing the new Moto G.
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ztmike said:
I don't understand why GSM users are still buying up the Galaxy Nexus when they should be purchasing the new Moto G.
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I think Moto G isn't any better in performance. Plus, it doesn't have much development as of now (not even a CM build). But to be honest I'm also tempted... though I have something else on my mind.
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Go for it if you can afford it.
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AndyYan said:
I think Moto G isn't any better in performance. Plus, it doesn't have much development as of now (not even a CM build). But to be honest I'm also tempted... though I have something else on my mind.
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It might not have any Dev support but its already getting 4.4.2 kitkat from Motorola and runs pretty much stock Android ..far as performance I've yet to see a VS video but I'm sure the Moto is faster.
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I had the S3 and I had a worse experience on it than I currently do on my recently acquired VZW Nexus. There is no lag or bloatware. The only down side is battery life. I will be buying another battery. Either stock or extended. I am near a charger all day so it's not a big deal for me. I'm not tempted to flash a different ROM either because it is already an aosp phone.
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I don't understand why GSM users are still buying up the Galaxy Nexus when they should be purchasing the new Moto G.
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I seriously thought about it. I still am. I'm so used to the 4.7" display such that I fear going back to 4.5" would be too much.
Galaxy nexus was my first smartphone and it made these almost 2 years since I own it very special. A real adventure. Have bricked it, have drppoed it but it never let me down in the end.
Had a great experience with my GNex but the battery life was a real deal breaker for me. Went with the G2 and am loving the larger screen not to mention outstanding battery. Thought I would hate the UI but so far I'm ok with it and I know I can ROM it when I get bored with it. Haven't parted with the GNex yet but I'm not really seeing a need to keep it now.
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i really dont need more than my GNex, and have it with android kit-kat before some top devices is amazing..
I went from a Gnex to Droid RAZR m, only because the screen cracked on my Gnex, needless to say I miss my Gnex badly!!!
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Sticking with GNex til it dies plus I love my charging dock...
I have a spare battery so either way I'll never have to worry about running out of power.
Sdobron said:
Sticking with GNex til it dies plus I love my charging dock...
I have a spare battery so either way I'll never have to worry about running out of power.
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Yup I feel the same way. I've been on cm 10.1.3 since september and I've experienced very minimal lag. All the 4.3/4.4 roms are just too unstable. Just the battery life sucks. Even on the 2100maH battery, the best screen on time I could get is 3 hours.I just keep the stock battery in handy for when I run out of battery.
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I don't understand why GSM users are still buying up the Galaxy Nexus when they should be purchasing the new Moto G.
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Yep Im doing that!
ztmike said:
I don't understand why GSM users are still buying up the Galaxy Nexus when they should be purchasing the new Moto G.
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Getting a moto g would be like buying a phone with 3 year old specs with no development, complete waste of time.At least the gnex has plenty of development but is still obsolete an crappy in the current smartphone world.Even the iPhone 4s which is 2 an a half years old beats the gnex hands down.
I love my GNex.. And with CM11 it rocks.. I will probably wait to it dies..
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fux0r99 said:
Getting a moto g would be like buying a phone with 3 year old specs with no development, complete waste of time.At least the gnex has plenty of development but is still obsolete an crappy in the current smartphone world.Even the iPhone 4s which is 2 an a half years old beats the gnex hands down.
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Moto G doesnt have a 3 year old specs...
Its still quite a new phone hence lack of major development.
Furthermore we can use gravity box for many things.
For me CM11 couldnt save my GNEX it was slugglish
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Moto G doesnt have a 3 year old specs...
Its still quite a new phone hence lack of major development.
Furthermore we can use gravity box for many things.
For me CM11 couldnt save my GNEX it was slugglish
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Hmm. If you could lag a CM11-wielding GNex, then a MotoG wouldn't surprise you either. It's a Snapdragon 400 after all. Me, I feel my GNex is always as smooth even when compared to my 2 more powerful devices.
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Nows your chance Toro People (VZW GNEX)

Those on toro have probably struggled with the decision of what verizon device to move to. Well now the dev edition moto x 32GB is only 379.99 on verizon. I made the move a few weeks ago when it was 449.99 and couldn't be happier. Battery life is a gigantic improvement, phone is so much smoother and it has essentially stock kit kat. There are several new devs coming to this phone and CM is very close to being stable. Theres also no comparison between the screen quality. Both are amoled but the moto x's screen is full rgb, and unlike the galaxy nexus, whites are great out of the box (better than I could ever manually set myself on the gnex), and the grey-scale gradients aren't that nasty greenish brown color or purple at low brightness. Its also atleast twice as bright yet uses half the power. Overall its a gigantic improvement and don't use the shortcomings of the galaxy nexus screen to write off the latest amoled panels. This one is top notch. Lastly and importantly, the reception on the Verizon Moto X is nothing short of astounding compared to the galaxy nexus or even my friends galaxy note 3. Even in my friends basement where his note 3 only got 3g the Moto X had strong 4g signal and didn't drain battery rapidly. Compared to the galaxy nexus its a gigantic improvement. Probably the best reception on any current generation Verizon smartphone.
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Cool story bro.
a hammerhead wrote this.
...But now that Motorola is a Lenovo company, we've yet to see the future of software updates for Moto X and G... What a pain. Even as a Chinese that lives in China, I disrespect Lenovo for this and most things they've done.
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I would walk away just because of it being Lenovo owned now
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Why, because its lenova? If so, what's the bad? The software ? If that's the case, ROMs should solve your problems
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Not if support is dropped.
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I'm happy with lenovo... Not sure about their phones but I always recommend people buy their laptops. I'd get a moto X but I still want a Nexus device. Waiting to see if verizon ever gets another Nexus device. If they take my unlimited away I will move to another carrier for a Nexus device.
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Those on toro have probably struggled with the decision of what verizon device to move to. Well now the dev edition moto x 32GB is only 379.99 on verizon.
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I do not see this phone on the VZW website and the Motorola website says $449.99. Where did you find it for that price?
I would walk away just because of it being Lenovo owned now
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I'm happy with lenovo... Not sure about their phones but I always recommend people buy their laptops. I'd get a moto X but I still want a Nexus device. Waiting to see if verizon ever gets another Nexus device. If they take my unlimited away I will move to another carrier for a Nexus device.
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This. Lenovo makes great laptops -- something that can't be said of many laptop manufacturers. Have they ever manufactered android phones? We will just have to wait and see how they are about software updates as they take over the MOTO mobile division. I hope they don't go down the bloatware route as bad as Samsung has on their non-nexus products.
I would walk away just because of it being Lenovo owned now
I switched providers and got a n5. One that vzw will never get their hands on.

So...What's next?

Here we are 2 years later with our Droid Razr M's. Contracts are ending. Official updates are done. ROM maintainers are leaving. Development is slowing.
And I'm wondering...
Where are you going from here?
Will you be staying with the M?
Leaving?
I'll be leaving in 3 months or so, My Verizon contract will be finished and I'll be picking up a Moto G (2014) and floating around the pre-paid market for awhile.
And finally...
Do you enjoy the Razr M?
I very much dislike the Razr M. I personally don't care about "specs" but The Razr M is a little too small for me (I dislike the shape immensely) and the lack of internal storage has always been a issue. I hate having to move updated system apps/libs back to the /system partition just to save internal storage space . I came from a 32GB Galaxy Nexus so... It's been a tough adjustment.
When I first starting using this device, it suffered from SOD's (Sleep of Death). Which made the device unusable until the bootloader exploit was released (The first time around) and I was able to remove MP-Decision. Moto fixed this issue with the last two JB updates and I no longer had to disable MP-Decision, which was nice. The performance and battery life has been great though and much better then my Galaxy Nexus.
And last but not least is the terrible display. PenTile display on such a small screen tends to distorts text. It's... just terrible.
To sum it up, I just don't like the Razr M. I got it for "free" on upgrade (this was before the $30 upgrade fee that Verizon is pushing now) and this was the best "free" device at the time.
I also picked up my M in the same way you did. It was an upgrade and it was my very first smartphone, so I liked the size. I used it for about 9 months, then purchased a used HD (the mod bug bit me). I relegated the M to media duty and it does just fine.
However, with the M being my first smartphone, I had nothing to compare it to, until I purchased my M8 a few months ago. My HD seemed to perform better than my M, but the M8 blows those out of the water.
I like M, there's really nothing bad about it. However, it's an older entry-level phone and the newer ones kill it. Step up to a flagship like I did with the M8, and the M will feel archaic.
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And I'm wondering...
Where are you going from here?
Will you be staying with the M?
Leaving?
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And finally...
Do you enjoy the Razr M?
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My experience is not typical and may not be of much reference value to others, but I still would like to share.
M is to be liked for many reasons. It has a sleek and modern look (especially the narrow bezel and kevlar), it is pretty lightweight, it has by far the best CDMA and GPS reception I've ever seen (cold start and locked on in 3 secs), it serves me well as a hotspot and GPS device which are exactly my intended purposes. With CM11 on board it doesn't seem to slow down much compared to my primary phone, the Nexus 4. And overclockable to ~2GHz. Guess it could still take the challenge of CM12 Plus I don't care about Pentile and stuff, as long as it's not 480p on 5 inch, and as long as it's not as blue as Galaxy S's SAMOLED, I'm perfectly fine with it.
However, its shape is indeed a bit small and rough in hand, and in this sense, Moto G did a way better job. I think it should be a 4.5" crammed into a 4.3" body instead of a 4.3" into 4". Moreover, it does heat up pretty fast during use, and that somehow affects battery life.
Like I said, M is just one of the "wingman" devices I own for misc purposes, and I switch these devices pretty often (watch my signature). However, I don't think I'll be swapping away M in the near future, because it's already one of the best backup device I've had. Power and simplicity in a compact package.
P.S. I'm going to try my luck to trade my Xperia SP away for a Galaxy Mega 6.3, hopefully it's worth it.
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do you think that the moto g (2014) is better than the razr m?? or there is a non expensive phone that can be much better than the m
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do you think that the moto g (2014) is better than the razr m?? or there is a non expensive phone that can be much better than the m
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I don't think the Moto G (2014) is much better than the Razr M. They both have there gives and takes. It's a cheap off-contract phone, that's why I'll be picking one up.
i will stay with my razr m until this little guy gets enough of being flashed, i'm going to check other phones btw but you recommend me to stay on stock rom or go with CM11?, because the only thing that keeps me to go to CM11 is the camera quality and the 60FPS video mode
Was there any Roms available if you took the ota?
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I don't think the Moto G (2014) is much better than the Razr M. They both have there gives and takes. It's a cheap off-contract phone, that's why I'll be picking one up.
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i will stay with my razr m until this little guy gets enough of being flashed, i'm going to check other phones btw but you recommend me to stay on stock rom or go with CM11?, because the only thing that keeps me to go to CM11 is the camera quality and the 60FPS video mode
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i will stay with my razr m until this little guy gets enough of being flashed, i'm going to check other phones btw but you recommend me to stay on stock rom or go with CM11?, because the only thing that keeps me to go to CM11 is the camera quality and the 60FPS video mode
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I'm on stock. Right now CM11 kbbl has to many issues.
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I'm on stock. Right now CM11 kbbl has to many issues.
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i installed the CM11 KK BL, is very smooth and i don't have any bluetooth,wifi and mic issues, except that the screen recording reboots my phone, the camera doesn't have the 60fps mode and HDR, the GPS don't work, the speaker has low volume and the voicenotes on whatsapp are not working (the voicenotes are silent) even if i send one to other phone , when this in stock works pretty well, these are the reasons that keeps me to use CM11 as a daily driver, right now i'm using the stock (183.46.15)
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i installed the CM11 KK BL, is very smooth and i don't have any bluetooth,wifi and mic issues, except that the screen recording reboots my phone, the camera doesn't have the 60fps mode and HDR, the GPS don't work, the speaker has low volume and the voicenotes on whatsapp are not working (the voicenotes are silent) even if i send one to other phone , when this in stock works pretty well, these are the reasons that keeps me to use CM11 as a daily driver, right now i'm using the stock (183.46.15)
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I'm on stock. Right now CM11 kbbl has to many issues.
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*sigh* Why not just fall back to JB BL?
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*sigh* Why not just fall back to JB BL?
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Because I don't want too. Stock is working fine for me.
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Here we are 2 years later with our Droid Razr M's. Contracts are ending. Official updates are done. ROM maintainers are leaving. Development is slowing.
And I'm wondering...
Where are you going from here?
Will you be staying with the M?
Leaving?
I'll be leaving in 3 months or so, My Verizon contract will be finished and I'll be picking up a Moto G (2014) and floating around the pre-paid market for awhile.
And finally...
Do you enjoy the Razr M?
I very much dislike the Razr M. I personally don't care about "specs" but The Razr M is a little too small for me (I dislike the shape immensely) and the lack of internal storage has always been a issue. I hate having to move updated system apps/libs back to the /system partition just to save internal storage space . I came from a 32GB Galaxy Nexus so... It's been a tough adjustment.
When I first starting using this device, it suffered from SOD's (Sleep of Death). Which made the device unusable until the bootloader exploit was released (The first time around) and I was able to remove MP-Decision. Moto fixed this issue with the last two JB updates and I no longer had to disable MP-Decision, which was nice. The performance and battery life has been great though and much better then my Galaxy Nexus.
And last but not least is the terrible display. PenTile display on such a small screen tends to distorts text. It's... just terrible.
To sum it up, I just don't like the Razr M. I got it for "free" on upgrade (this was before the $30 upgrade fee that Verizon is pushing now) and this was the best "free" device at the time.
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I still have a year to go on my current contract; I got my Razr M for "99 cents" last November. It was an early Christmas present from some relatives, as my then-6-year-old Samsung Alias had taken a deadly fall.
I honestly don't know what I'll be doing a year from now. Sure, I'd love a better phone, but I'm really too broke to buy anything significantly better. (I was able to pick up a Galaxy Nexus on the cheap recently, which I'm keeping as a backup phone.) Maybe I'll buy a used Moto G for cheap and go prepaid.
The Razr M is technically my first smartphone; I had a Droid X2 (donated by someone who went to an iPhone), but simply used it as a Wi-Fi device. Either way, it was one heck of a step up - it was my first foray into having Internet access anywhere, after all, as well as Jellybean in general (it was on the penultimate JB firmware when I unboxed it; I fatfingered an OTA two days later and was thereafter locked out of custom ROMs until KitKat and Towelroot came along). I was more or less wowed by it.
Time passed, of course. I educated myself. I slowly started to become frustrated with the Razr M's shortcomings, simultaneously justifying the phone choice and kicking myself for said frustration because it was my relatives who picked and bought it for me - I'd probably still be on a feature phone and nowhere near writing this post otherwise.
I like the size of the phone, at least while it's in the Otterbox case I got for it. It's just the right fit for one-handed use. I like the overall performance - it rarely lags enough to frustrate me, and it handles every game I've thrown at it fairly well. What I don't like is the small internal storage (I haven't really looked into solutions for moving apps to the microSD). I don't like the fact that I went from two days of moderate use (on my Alias) to less than half of one (on a "light" day, I might get 14 hours). I wish the camera was better; the Galaxy Nexus takes better pictures in my opinion. I wish the screen wasn't PenTile, or at least that the resolution was higher. I don't like that it now has two separate bootloaders and we have to reflash JBBL for the more-stable CM right now (I'm sticking it out with KKBL, simply because I'm lazy, scared I'll make a mistake, and still hopeful that the remaining issues will be fixed before long).
I'm dreading the inevitable day when the Razr M community plummets and I (and the dozen or so other late-contractors) am left behind with only each other for help. Life happens, I guess.
If anyone has a Droid Razr Maxx that they're selling for a low price ... let me get back to you in 2015. :/​
I'll definitely be getting a different brand. Probably go back to Samsung. I hate how adamant Motorola is in patching root exploits. It's my ****ing device, I paid for it, let me use it the way I want!
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I'll definitely be getting a different brand. Probably go back to Samsung. I hate how adamant Motorola is in patching root exploits. It's my ****ing device, I paid for it, let me use it the way I want!
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It's really not really Motorola entirely... It's more Verizon... I understand the logic behind it... They want to be able to provide the best possible assistance in the event we call for technical support... Don't get a device from Verizon or a Verizon branded device if you want to ensure there will be some hope...
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eulogy1337 said:
I'll definitely be getting a different brand. Probably go back to Samsung. I hate how adamant Motorola is in patching root exploits. It's my ****ing device, I paid for it, let me use it the way I want!
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Samsung is not much better.[emoji6]
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I am about to fall back to the JB BL... Stock KK Sucks, the issues with AOSP on the KK is maddening. So close, but just annoying enough to not want to deal with it. Hats off to the Devs that made great builds with what they had to work with. CM10 was flawless....
I am probably going to be stuck with this phone until next May. It is a work phone and we get new ones when the owner of the company comes back from Florida every spring. Unless,,,, my phone "accidentally" breaks or something.
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I'll definitely be getting a different brand. Probably go back to Samsung. I hate how adamant Motorola is in patching root exploits. It's my ****ing device, I paid for it, let me use it the way I want!
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It's Verizon, all non-Verizon Motorola phones can be bootloader unlocked using the official way on their webside. Only by Verizon it can be done only on developer edition phones. And many other Verizon phones by other brands than Motorola have the same problems with unlocking bootloader.
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I'm going to buy the OnePlus if I can. My friend got one, just waiting on an invite code.
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