Best Alternative Parental Control App (free) to Amazon's FreeTime - Fire Themes and Apps

Amazon's parental control Freetime app does not appear to be very useful. It seems to allow me to select only those apps downloaded from the Amazon app store, and not choose from all installed on the tablet (including the ones from Google Play).
has anyone found an alternative? I'd hate to have to go through a paying service (although, Remote Screen Time seems to work best, but still costs $5/month).
thanks!

jco23 said:
Amazon's parental control Freetime app does not appear to be very useful. It seems to allow me to select only those apps downloaded from the Amazon app store, and not choose from all installed on the tablet (including the ones from Google Play).
has anyone found an alternative? I'd hate to have to go through a paying service (although, Remote Screen Time seems to work best, but still costs $5/month).
thanks!
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This one is free and works VERY well!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kiddoware.kidsplace&hl=en

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Have you tried the "Screen Time Parental Control" app? I use it.

Kids Place would be great, but the home button can't be locked by the kids place app, because the fire launcher always starts if pressing the home button. So it is not a parental controled app...
Has anyone any idea how to make the lock possible ? Are there root rights necessary ?
Thanks,
Klaus

klsystem1 said:
Kids Place would be great, but the home button can't be locked by the kids place app, because the fire launcher always starts if pressing the home button. So it is not a parental controled app...
Has anyone any idea how to make the lock possible ? Are there root rights necessary ?
Thanks,
Klaus
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I deleted ghee fire launcher and am using another launcher and so the home button works fine on kids place for my son. Yes you need root to delete the fire launcher.

How habe you deleted? Which launcher do you use ? Do you habe the fire 5.1.1 ?

klsystem1 said:
How habe you deleted? Which launcher do you use ? Do you habe the fire 5.1.1 ?
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I use Smart Launcher. My device is rooted and it's running 5.0.1. It was a birthday gift for my 4 year old. I rooted it and disabled updates and deleted the fire launcher after I installed Smart Launcher. So I don't do anything with it now myself unless it's installing some new game for my 4 year old. Is 5.1.1 not able to be rooted? I'm not keeping up with the scene on this tablet because I don't use it myself, only when I set it up for my son, and it was on 5.0.1 after whatever initial update it got when I first turned it on.

Anyone a kids Place or secured APP running on a 5.1.1 fire?

klsystem1 said:
Anyone a kids Place or secured APP running on a 5.1.1 fire?
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Not yet.
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ok, with supertool (see link at the bottom), just install google playstore and novalauncher. Permanent root is not necessary ! It worked perfectly for me and kids place doing well !
Please notice that a factory reset and a 5.1.1 version is needed before using the super tool from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=64358332#post64358332

I tried AppLock from Qizmodo, has been perfect, but isn't working with 5.1.1 anymore. Really sad. So maybe Mobile Fence will work, website says it is compatible with 5.1.1.
I don't wanna just lock apps, but set a time limit for e.g. games so that my daughter is able to use the musci player all day, but will not play games for several hours. If someone has an idea how to get AppLock running again, would be great. I contacted the company itself, but doesn't seem they are working on the app anymore.

Have you tried supertool to get novalauncher ? Maybe that can cope with applocker.

klsystem1 said:
Have you tried supertool to get novalauncher ? Maybe that can cope with applocker.
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I don't see the benefit of novalauncher. I can hide unused apps, ok. But I want to use some apps with a predefined time limit. So I installed some nice games, want to define the group "games" and set a time limit for their usage, let's say 1h daily. I find no way to do that with novalauncher...

Try Nester, https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co.mindquake.nester&hl=en

I used the free version of dinner time, but the pay version(3.99) adds a couple non essential stuff.

petermg said:
I deleted ghee fire launcher and am using another launcher and so the home button works fine on kids place for my son. Yes you need root to delete the fire launcher.
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Same here. But it's still possible for the kids to use "parent apps", when they let list the recently used apps (right symbol after swiping up from the bottom).

chaosp said:
Same here. But it's still possible for the kids to use "parent apps", when they let list the recently used apps (right symbol after swiping up from the bottom).
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You can simply disable that via the Kids Place - Parental Control app!!!

I found a good one: lollipop launcher by mobint. It allows you to lock apps on home screen and hide others on app drawer. It's free too. I recommend it.

petermg said:
You can simply disable that via the Kids Place - Parental Control app!!!
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I can't find this option in the settings of Kids Place (disabling switching between the recently run apps). Where is it?

i use this launcher with my rooted kindle fire for my children
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hootapps.slauncher

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alternate home launcher(no root required)

Hate the kindle home screen? Me too. I tried side loading Vire. Nothing fantastic, but it has a few applets (widgets),multiple screens, vote wallpapers and some cool transitions.see attached images. Did not get one of app drawer, it is nothing special.
Looking good. I have next launcher working and yandex shell . Yandex has it's own panels and it's working flawlessly. Wallpapers do not work though
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Download link please!
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I like vire launcher also. I can't get it to work when in the home launcher. I downloaded it from another app store. I will try sideloading it. Rignt now it just closes when accessing it. Your screen looks gtreat. Where are the wallpapers placed after download to get them to show up?
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I HAD TO SHUT DOWN AND RESTART TO GET A NEW VIRE WALL PAPER TO SHOW UP. I JUST LOADED AVIATE. IT'S OK I GUESS, YOU CAN LOAD ANY PICTURE ON THE HOME SCREEN AND THE MOST USED APPS BAR ON THE HOME SCREEN IS NICE, I ALSO LIKE HOW THEY ORGANIZE THE APP DRAWER BY TYPE. I'LL PUT UP A GRAPHIC. GO TO getaviate.com for that app. vire can be had from the playstore. that's why you got to sideload things. neither one let's real widgets run, they crash. there has to be a file missing on the kindle. Aviate relies on the google framework i think and because i can't get it to run stable, that's a problem.
aviate home screen
Aviate has a very clean home screen replacement somewhat like Goggle Now, the home screen slides left, right, and down to reveal other panels. For a non rooted replacement it's very cool. i have the dark theme with a photo for the background. It took a week or so to get a activation code from aviate. For something that is ment only for phones, it's not bad. getaviate.com
I have 4 invitations left for aviate. If anyone is interested, pm me your Gmails and I will invite you.
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Buzz launcher also works. It's not a very good home screen, but it works.
Also: Can someone PLEASE invite me to Aviate! It looks so good, thanks in advance.
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To use Aviate, use the code "MUSIC" in all caps.
For Aviate, you can also use "YAHOO"...
Aviate is definitely the best home screen replacement for the hdx if your non rooted. It allows the use of widgets and wallpapers. I have Aviate, google apps, and SwiftKey installed. This combination definitely gives the HDX the sense of being a real android tablet without root, especially since Amazon disabled the "Special offers" for me. I'm loving this tablet now ?
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How'd you do this without root? I've followed on how to install Play Store but it doesn't work for me. Sideloaded Aviate but it doesn't let me set it to default launcher.
vincentallen2 said:
Aviate is definitely the best home screen replacement for the hdx if your non rooted. It allows the use of widgets and wallpapers. I have Aviate, google apps, and SwiftKey installed. This combination definitely gives the HDX the sense of being a real android tablet without root, especially since Amazon disabled the "Special offers" for me. I'm loving this tablet now ?
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Set as default launched by doing this:
adb shell
pm block com.amazon.kindle.otter
To return to the stock launcher, pm unblock com.amazon.kindle.otter then uninstall Aviate.
aoleg said:
Set as default launched by doing this:
adb shell
pm block com.amazon.kindle.otter
To return to the stock launcher, pm unblock com.amazon.kindle.otter then uninstall Aviate.
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OMG, this in particular is crucial. I am using NovaLauncher on my HDX, but the "HEY! WHAT HOME LAUNCHER DO YOU WANT THE DEFAULT TO BE?!?! HEY! ARE YOU SURE?!" crap that kept happening every time I hit the home button was driving me nuts! Thanks a million
aoleg said:
Set as default launched by doing this:
adb shell
pm block com.amazon.kindle.otter
To return to the stock launcher, pm unblock com.amazon.kindle.otter then uninstall Aviate.
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I'm noob. Can you explain what I must do or what guide I can follow, please.
Thanks
dedalos1 said:
I'm noob. Can you explain what I must do or what guide I can follow, please.
Thanks
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You'll need to have ADB installed and configured on your computer. You'll also need Kindle HDX drivers (instructions also available on this forum). There are tons of manuals on how to do that. Once you have ADB, launch the ADB shell in the command line by executing the following command in the same folder where you have the ADB executable:
adb shell
Once you are in (a command line window will appear), type:
pm block com.amazon.kindle.otter
That's it.
So I Androidified my HDX 7 as follows:
Sideloaded Dodol launcher, which allows widgets and wallpaper (you have to check the "exclusive wallpaper" check box in launcher settings), as well as icon themes etc.
Disabled the stock launcher using the "adb and fastboot light" program with the block otter command (as detailed above)
Installed all the google apps (except maps, but google earth works great)
Installed ultimate rotation control app, which allows you to force rotation on any app, including the launcher homescreen (without it the dodol homescreen is always in one portrait orientation)
Installed the hacked Kindle app which has a different signature and therefore can be installed on the fire hdx and logged into like a normal app, so you can access your kindle book library with the dodol launcher!
Installed 1Mobile market, as an alternative to the play store, which allows direct downloads of APKs and updates. I even updated the google play services to the latest version, as well as many of the google apps and they still all work perfectly.
Overall, my unrooted kindle Fire HDX7 now resembles a standard android tablet (I even had a stranger ask me how I converted my kindle into a "proper" tablet!) , and can be fully returned to the stock Fire interface at any time, i.e. when I get bored. Simples!
Blocking otter
Will blocking otter not cause issues, if Amazon finds (and installs) an update?
I haven't rooted at all as I'm patiently waiting for FireOS 5, but I would love to be able to use a different launcher.
I am a kinda noob...not much experience but I did root and unlock a Samsung phone a few years ago
I've sideloaded a few apps on my hdx...but I don't think I've used the adb....unless it's what I used to unlock my Samsung infuse. ...will doing the otter block void my warranty?
emeralds5668 said:
I am a kinda noob...not much experience but I did root and unlock a Samsung phone a few years ago
I've sideloaded a few apps on my hdx...but I don't think I've used the adb....unless it's what I used to unlock my Samsung infuse. ...will doing the otter block void my warranty?
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Nope.

[STICK] Is there an easier way to access sideloaded apps?

Is there an easier way to access sideloaded apps on the Fire TV Stick? Currently I have to go to Settings > Applications > Manage > App > Launch. Kind of a pain in the neck, especially when I'm setting one up for a non-technical user for a Christmas present.
FatalIll said:
Is there an easier way to access sideloaded apps on the Fire TV Stick? Currently I have to go to Settings > Applications > Manage > App > Launch. Kind of a pain in the neck, especially when I'm setting one up for a non-technical user for a Christmas present.
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Download the amazon store apk. I'm sure it's all over this board it will make all your sideloaded apps appear on app section of your main screen.
FatalIll said:
Is there an easier way to access sideloaded apps on the Fire TV Stick? Currently I have to go to Settings > Applications > Manage > App > Launch. Kind of a pain in the neck, especially when I'm setting one up for a non-technical user for a Christmas present.
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Yes. FiredTV launcher by redth. Here is the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2782307
Check out the thread. Donate to him if you can. He did a great job with it. Also, you have to launch it after each reboot since the Firestick is not rootable at the moment.
So with both of the above methods, is there a way to revert those changes? If something stops working or whatnot?
danknasty said:
Download the amazon store apk.... it will make all your sideloaded apps appear on app section of your main screen.
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So if I sideload the amazon store app, will all my other sideloaded apps will show up on the main homescreen in the apps section?
spenceuiuc said:
So if I sideload the amazon store app, will all my other sideloaded apps will show up on the main homescreen in the apps section?
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i had tried this but after i did it i couldnt use any of the prime video stuff as it kept asking for me to log into the store but wouldnt let me. so i uninstalled it, i use llama to launch xbmc by having it launch it when i launch another app. you could also try this http://www.amazon.com/Application-O...=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B00Q3907T6
spenceuiuc said:
So if I sideload the amazon store app, will all my other sideloaded apps will show up on the main homescreen in the apps section?
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Yea. Or at least that's what it does for me and most other people I've read.
pbanj said:
i had tried this but after i did it i couldnt use any of the prime video stuff as it kept asking for me to log into the store but wouldnt let me. so i uninstalled it, i use llama to launch xbmc by having it launch it when i launch another app. you could also try this http://www.amazon.com/Application-O...=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B00Q3907T6
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Ahhh I like the Llama method better, for anyone interested: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53703211#post53703211 & http://kodi.wiki/view/Amazon_Fire_TV#Launch_XBMC_from_an_Existing_App_on_the_FTV_Home_Screen
FatalIll said:
Ahhh I like the Llama method better, for anyone interested: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53703211#post53703211 & http://kodi.wiki/view/Amazon_Fire_TV#Launch_XBMC_from_an_Existing_App_on_the_FTV_Home_Screen
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ya the llama way works nice, i hooked it onto plex
I have Kodi (XBMC) set as my home launcher, so I've found that using its access to the installed Android apps is the easiest solution. I can access them all from programs > Android Apps, but I can also set the ones I use most frequently as favorites for even easier access.
FatalIll said:
Is there an easier way to access sideloaded apps on the Fire TV Stick? Currently I have to go to Settings > Applications > Manage > App > Launch. Kind of a pain in the neck, especially when I'm setting one up for a non-technical user for a Christmas present.
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If you download the WKRemote app to your phone or tablet, there's a Quick Launch option at the bottom of the screen that will display all your side-loaded apps. Just click the one you want to open & voilĂ .
Try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57398115&postcount=13

App screen layout - how did he do it?

Hi please see attached pic. How is this possible to display all your apps in this fashion? I have never seen this before nor is he saying how it's done. http://youtu.be/8SCsH86MYl8
Newbie_from_NJ said:
Hi please see attached pic. How is this possible to display all your apps in this fashion? I have never seen this before nor is he saying how it's done. http://youtu.be/8SCsH86MYl8
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I haven't played around with many launchers but that's what it is. Specifically, I think it may be this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2790392
There are no pics there either but just from reading a lot on this site and others that's what I think it is. In my opinion, these work best when kftv launcher is frozen (requires root and xposed) but some don't want to completely bypass it because you lose prime content. Its not the only launcher. there are lots of them but I do like this developer. He has shortcuts you can use from within kodi to launch youtube, netflix and get back to aftv homescreen.
If you are rooted and do freeze the main launcher I'd just use caution. The other day I read someone on a different site froze kftv with no backup launcher installed. Now he's stuck. I don't want to make it sound dangerous. I was actually using a different mod that launched right into xbmc without xposed modules but I was careful and had a fallback launcher so if anything went wrong I still had something to boot in to.
Or if you just want to safely play around and you aren't rooted you might try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2782307
I tried it when I first got AFTV and it's pretty cool but I notice it's had some nice updates since. It basically runs on top of KFTV launcher so I think hitting the home button takes you right back to the normal menu. It does help eliminate all the clicks it takes to get from start to the app you want--IMO one of the weaker points in the aftv ui
Thanks for the information. I'm going to look into it. I'm rooted with custom boot menu and clockworkmod recovery. If anything happens, I can easily boot into recovery and flash a rooted ROM again.
Klit75 its not firedtv launcher. I am not sure what it is, but definitely not that launcher.
The answer is simple, install the amazon app store apk, reboot, finished. Keep the apk, cause if you need to install amazon apps you will have to uninstall then reinstall when finished. It basically disables you from doing anything on the amazon store while you have the app store installed, but thats the way you get your apps to look like that.
porkenhimer said:
The answer is simple, install the amazon app store apk, reboot, finished. Keep the apk, cause if you need to install amazon apps you will have to uninstall then reinstall when finished. It basically disables you from doing anything on the amazon store while you have the app store installed, but thats the way you get your apps to look like that.
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I'm a little confused. The amazon app store is already installed by default on all Amazon Fire TV's. It's on the list of apps when you go to settings/manage installed apps/
Are you saying to download the amazon apk from elsewhere, sideload it and install it over the existing Amazon app store?
Newbie_from_NJ said:
I'm a little confused. The amazon app store is already installed by default on all Amazon Fire TV's. It's on the list of apps when you go to settings/manage installed apps/
Are you saying to download the amazon apk from elsewhere, sideload it and install it over the existing Amazon app store?
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That is exactly what he is saying it works but you wont be able to install anymore amazon apps. You would have to uninstall amazon appstore and resynch to get the firetv version of appstore.... soo install everything you need from the amazon app store first.
HeXDeMoN said:
That is exactly what he is saying it works but you wont be able to install anymore amazon apps. You would have to uninstall amazon appstore and resynch to get the firetv version of appstore.... soo install everything you need from the amazon app store first.
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lol Okay, will give it a try! Sounds simple enough. Amazon App Store sucks anyway and I already have the Play store installed.
I wonder if it will auto populate the list of apps when I install any new apps from Play Store? I'm also assuming sideloading apps doesn't get affected by this? I will try both when I get home and will report back my findings.
Thank you guys.

Fire TV never sleeps after FW update

Using the newest Cusom Pre-Rooted Rom (51.1.5.0_515030720) and newest SPMC (14.2.0), the Screen Saver works great but the transition from Screen Saver to Sleep never happens! It just stays on Screen Saver forever (until pressing anything).
* I can't tell if it's only for SPMC or the entire system (SPMC is my Launcher as well).
* When choosing Sleep from the Fire TV Settigs Menu, sleep works great.
I'm started to worry because the Fire TV is always ON and never sleeps...
A full factory reset is nearly out of the question - I have worked tons of hours to configure and mod my system to the way it is finally ideal...
Any ideas?
Recently I had an issue with my FTV not sleeping. Think it might have been due to certain Google apps not working properly due to Google Play Services auto-updating itself to v7.3.2.9 (v7.0.9.9 is the latest "good" version).
Anyways to figure out my issue I used apps like Titanium Backup and ROM Toolbox Pro (App Manager) to freeze various apps, and see if the FTV would go to sleep afterwards. Eventually I figured it out, and now my FTV sleeps like a baby.
To add my 2 cents, knowing nothing about whats installed or how your FTV is setup etc. I noticed when I updated, the new netflix (white icon) never allows the device to sleep! you have to EXIT manually before it will sleep. Also SPMC 14.2 is bugged and unstable due to an early backport of seek steps that has many memery leaks and it will eventually crash over and over FYI.
Gaiosan said:
Using the newest Cusom Pre-Rooted Rom (51.1.5.0_515030720) and newest SPMC (14.2.0), the Screen Saver works great but the transition from Screen Saver to Sleep never happens! It just stays on Screen Saver forever (until pressing anything).
* I can't tell if it's only for SPMC or the entire system (SPMC is my Launcher as well).
* When choosing Sleep from the Fire TV Settigs Menu, sleep works great.
I'm started to worry because the Fire TV is always ON and never sleeps...
A full factory reset is nearly out of the question - I have worked tons of hours to configure and mod my system to the way it is finally ideal...
Any ideas?
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Do you have Google Play installed?
MetalMan2 said:
Recently I had an issue with my FTV not sleeping. Think it might have been due to certain Google apps not working properly due to Google Play Services auto-updating itself to v7.3.2.9 (v7.0.9.9 is the latest "good" version).
Anyways to figure out my issue I used apps like Titanium Backup and ROM Toolbox Pro (App Manager) to freeze various apps, and see if the FTV would go to sleep afterwards. Eventually I figured it out, and now my FTV sleeps like a baby.
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Actually now that I think about it, Google play has stop working as well! I get a white screen whenever entering it, should i downgrade my Google apps? Where can I get the apk? Thanks!
Skater4599 said:
To add my 2 cents, knowing nothing about whats installed or how your FTV is setup etc. I noticed when I updated, the new netflix (white icon) never allows the device to sleep! you have to EXIT manually before it will sleep. Also SPMC 14.2 is bugged and unstable due to an early backport of seek steps that has many memery leaks and it will eventually crash over and over FYI.
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So which SPMC build should I use? Thanks!
krawhitham said:
Do you have Google Play installed?
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Yes...
Gaiosan said:
Actually now that I think about it, Google play has stop working as well! I get a white screen whenever entering it, should i downgrade my Google apps? Where can I get the apk? Thanks!
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There's a thread about Google Play Services auto-updating itself. This post has the APK for the appropriate version:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60393176&postcount=17
You can't stop it from auto-updating again... I freeze Google Play Services when I don't need it, then defrost it when I do, to prevent it from updating.
MetalMan2 said:
There's a thread about Google Play Services auto-updating itself. This post has the APK for the appropriate version:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60393176&postcount=17
You can't stop it from auto-updating again... I freeze Google Play Services when I don't need it, then defrost it when I do, to prevent it from updating.
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By freezing Google Play Services, do you mean via Titanium Backup?
Axecaster said:
By freezing Google Play Services, do you mean via Titanium Backup?
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Correct, or by some other app like ROM Toolbox Pro (App Manager).
MetalMan2 said:
Correct, or by some other app like ROM Toolbox Pro (App Manager).
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Does one tend to work better than the other on the Fire TV? Only have the paid Titanium Backup so far.
Axecaster said:
Does one tend to work better than the other on the Fire TV? Only have the paid Titanium Backup so far.
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They both work equally well, and both require a mouse.
I use both, but prefer ROM Toolbox Pro for this specific purpose because of its grid layout of apps (vs. Titanium Backup's list layout).
MetalMan2 said:
They both work equally well, and both require a mouse.
I use both, but prefer ROM Toolbox Pro for this specific purpose because of its grid layout of apps (vs. Titanium Backup's list layout).
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Odd question: Play Store through desktop browser claims ROM Toolbox Pro is not compatible with the Fire TV.
Obviously, you're reported otherwise. Should it work just fine pushing over the app from a jellybean tablet or kitkat phone, or might that cause conflicts? Or should we edit the xinstaller module to change the Device ID?
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Odd question: Play Store through desktop browser claims ROM Toolbox Pro is not compatible with the Fire TV.
Obviously, you're reported otherwise. Should it work just fine pushing over the app from a jellybean tablet or kitkat phone, or might that cause conflicts? Or should we edit the xinstaller module to change the Device ID?
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There are many apps which will be listed as "incompatible" for the Fire TV.
You have a couple choices: sideload, or use Market Helper to temporarily spoof your Fire TV's identity (and thus find lots of "compatible" apps in the Play Store).

How to freeze Amazon Launcher and use another one?

I have a ftv v2 with root and recovery. I want to change the default Launcher and use kodi instead.
Can i just freeze aftvlauncher and use xbmclauncher to use kodi? Will firestarter work normally if i set it to launch with 2 home button presses?
I am afraid to freeze aftvlauncher and don't be able to start any app. Bricking my ftv.
Thanks
Why freeze aftv launcher ? Just let firestarter/Kodi launch at startup and let the avtf launcher run in background...doesn't matter I think, you will not really recognize it...
KillerJoeBR said:
I have a ftv v2 with root and recovery. I want to change the default Launcher and use kodi instead.
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Try using the XBMC Launcher. This launcher works to perfection on a rooted first generation Fire TV. Not sure if it will work when updating to OS 5. May have to wait for a new release of [MOD][XPOSED]Fire TV Mods by rbox. I'll probably not update to OS 5 until I know for sure that this launcher will work with it.
I've disabled the stock launcher, along with some other things, details in this thread there are side effects of disabling the stock launcher but I'm ok with them:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/help/root-disabling-apps-services-bloat-t3325333
I can't say for certain if XBMC Launcher will work or not (not tried using it). I know you can't have the standard Kodi 16 as a 'launcher' as you cannot choose it from the launcher selection window you get when the AFTV launcher is disabled.
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Spotti said:
Why freeze aftv launcher ? Just let firestarter/Kodi launch at startup and let the avtf launcher run in background...doesn't matter I think, you will not really recognize it...
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The reason behind disable / freeze is that it will stop the launcher from consuming resources.
May not be entirely needed on AFTV2 but on the Stick (and maybe AFTV1) I'm sure it would help.
Ludacrisvp said:
I've disabled the stock launcher, along with some other things, details in this thread there are side effects of disabling the stock launcher but I'm ok with them:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/help/root-disabling-apps-services-bloat-t3325333
I can't say for certain if XBMC Launcher will work or not (not tried using it). I know you can't have the standard Kodi 16 as a 'launcher' as you cannot choose it from the launcher selection window you get when the AFTV launcher is disabled.
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Thanks for your answer. I saw your post but i thought it was a bit extreme. I only need to access kodi with the home button and firestarter with 2 presses so i can stop kodi when it sometimes freezes.
I used xbmclauncher before with FTV v1 OS3 and it worked great. But i didn't see anyone saying if it works with OS 5.X so i'm afraid of testing it myself. And i think it needs the rbox module to work and its outdated but i guess is still working? Rbox says it will update his module so i guess i should wait.
KillerJoeBR said:
Thanks for your answer. I saw your post but i thought it was a bit extreme. I only need to access kodi with the home button and firestarter with 2 presses so i can stop kodi when it sometimes freezes.
I used xbmclauncher before with FTV v1 OS3 and it worked great. But i didn't see anyone saying if it works with OS 5.X so i'm afraid of testing it myself. And i think it needs the rbox module to work and its outdated but i guess is still working? Rbox says it will update his module so i guess i should wait.
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Configure firestarter to start your "launcher" or Kodi with a single click. Set it to launch firestarter with a double click. You really can't brick doing this. If you find out you can't get back into the default Fire TV launcher for any reason, just side-uninstall firestarter via adb.
I had some issues when setting Kodi as launcher using XBMCLauncher on my Stick.
Kodi didn't seem to like it and moving back and forth to other apps like iPlayer etc it would reset its settings and act like it'd been reverted to default until I FC'd it. When it froze it could get itself into a loop as well as because it hasn't closed properly it try to 'launch itself again (if that makes sense)
I found it better to set Firestarter as Launcher, single click, start on boot and set Kodi as double click. Put Kodi in top left of app drawer as well so its always close if you click back to FireStarter by accident.
This way you always have FireStarter to fall back on if Kodi crashes.
You can also edit the Kodi keymap to have the 'Back' button on the Home screen open something else like favorites so that you don't accidentally back out of Kodi when navigating menus etc.
(Not knocking XBMCLauncher at all, I use it on my OUYA for exactly this and it works fine, just noting issues I've had on the AFTVS for others)
Dude360 said:
I had some issues when setting Kodi as launcher using XBMCLauncher on my Stick.
Kodi didn't seem to like it and moving back and forth to other apps like iPlayer etc it would reset its settings and act like it'd been reverted to default until I FC'd it. When it froze it could get itself into a loop as well as because it hasn't closed properly it try to 'launch itself again (if that makes sense)
I found it better to set Firestarter as Launcher, single click, start on boot and set Kodi as double click. Put Kodi in top left of app drawer as well so its always close if you click back to FireStarter by accident.
This way you always have FireStarter to fall back on if Kodi crashes.
You can also edit the Kodi keymap to have the 'Back' button on the Home screen open something else like favorites so that you don't accidentally back out of Kodi when navigating menus etc.
(Not knocking XBMCLauncher at all, I use it on my OUYA for exactly this and it works fine, just noting issues I've had on the AFTVS for others)
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Thanks for your input. Did you disable amazon launcher while doing this?
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KillerJoeBR said:
Thanks for your input. Did you disable amazon launcher while doing this?
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Yeah, froze using Titanium.
One thing to be aware of is if your using another/freezing AFTVLauncher and use the Android dialog to set the new Launcher as 'default' then there is no way to reset this like in normal Android. Theres no option in Amazon Settings or anywhere else in the GUI.
I think thees a way using SQL or by installing another Home Launcher which will prompt the Android dialog again.
Dude360 said:
I think thees a way using SQL or by installing another Home Launcher which will prompt the Android dialog again.
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Or maybe unfreezing the amazon launcher and deleting the other one?
Anyway I have another question. Do you set firestarter with adb detection? Cause I am afraid if activate this and something goes wrong I won't be able to access the firetv using wifi adb? Is that correct? And also does firestarter works without adb detection while also not having the amazon launcher?
Thanks again
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Or maybe unfreezing the amazon launcher and deleting the other one?
Anyway I have another question. Do you set firestarter with adb detection? Cause I am afraid if activate this and something goes wrong I won't be able to access the firetv using wifi adb? Is that correct? And also does firestarter works without adb detection while also not having the amazon launcher?
Thanks again
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Yup, unfreezing AFTVLauncher will do it but you have to be able to get to Firestarter to launch it, not good if everything is frozen
If I remember, FireStarter has the launcher intent so if its the only launcher available, Android will default to that anyway.
So, if its the default Launcher, you wont need to use adb detection as it will use the Home button and start on boot anyway.
Is it possible to set Firestarter as a default launcher without disabling a stock one? If so -- how?
I use Fs on fire tv on os5 and it works fine. Just setup your single and double click home buttons.

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