Hello guys .
I am very confused between these two models. Need Suggestion .
Asus Zenfone 2 Laser ZE550KL 3GB RAM
Octa core, 1.5 GHz, Cortex A53,
Chipset: Qualcomm MSM8939 Snapdragon 615
GPU : Adreno 405
Plus Point :
3 GB RAM vs 2GB RAM
Expandable Up to 128 GB vs 64GB
Asus Zenfone 2 Laser ZE551ML 2GB RAM
Quad core, 1.8 GHz, Intel Atom,
Chipset: Intel Atom Z3560
Gpu : PowerVR G6430
Plus Point :
Full HD vs HD
Pixel Density :401 ppi vs 267 ppi
NFC
Give me the right option to buy
Thanks in Advance. :fingers-crossed:
yaju99 said:
Hello guys .
I am very confused between these two models. Need Suggestion .
Asus Zenfone 2 Laser ZE550KL 3GB RAM
Octa core, 1.5 GHz, Cortex A53,
Chipset: Qualcomm MSM8939 Snapdragon 615
GPU : Adreno 405
Plus Point :
3 GB RAM vs 2GB RAM
Expandable Up to 128 GB vs 64GB
Asus Zenfone 2 Laser ZE551ML 2GB RAM
Quad core, 1.8 GHz, Intel Atom,
Chipset: Intel Atom Z3560
Gpu : PowerVR G6430
Plus Point :
Full HD vs HD
Pixel Density :401 ppi vs 267 ppi
NFC
Give me the right option to buy
Thanks in Advance. :fingers-crossed:
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ZE551ML.
that 615 is really not that good imo.
both can be expanded to 128GB sdcard. although they marketed the 551ML just upto 64GB.
xgneilx said:
ZE551ML.
that 615 is really not that good imo.
both can be expanded to 128GB sdcard. although they marketed the 551ML just upto 64GB.
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This. The Snapdragon has a much better GPU IMO. PowerVR is a bit crippled, I believe. But that's only if you're gaming heavily or using apps like Snapchat a lot (i have small issues with snapchat on my 551). Other than that I believe the Intel would do better considering the amount of development and support currently available (if it matters to you that is...). And SD cards are supported similarly in both.
thedisturbedone said:
This. The Snapdragon has a much better GPU IMO. PowerVR is a bit crippled, I believe. But that's only if you're gaming heavily or using apps like Snapchat a lot (i have small issues with snapchat on my 551). Other than that I believe the Intel would do better considering the amount of development and support currently available (if it matters to you that is...). And SD cards are supported similarly in both.
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PowerVR G6430 was used in iphone 5s too , and it is nearly twice faster than Adreno 405. Snap615 is ARM type, so it is better compatible with apps than Atom on Z551. Overall, i think Z551 is still a better choice
Thank you guys,
I think Intel Atom is faster, but it takes big part of ram which I saw in Ze551ml (only 300 to 400 my free) and in case of ze550kl have 3gb ram and snapdragon 6 series really knows to handle bettry life but some times it works like snail.
What to do guys!?
Pretty much ALL the reviews of the Zenfones with SD615 that I've seen have mentioned lag/stuttering and worse performance than rival devices on same chipset. On the other hand, the ZE551ML is often praised for its smooth performance. Personlly, there's nothing worse than stuttering performance. I'd take the ZE551ML over the Laser every day of the week!
Thanks @kanagawaben,
You are right Buddy but 3gb ram can't help with that.
Hello guys, I found moto g 3rd generation is good rival this competition. Should I go for that or Ze551ml is pure winner?
tuilalnvinh said:
PowerVR G6430 was used in iphone 5s too , and it is nearly twice faster than Adreno 405. Snap615 is ARM type, so it is better compatible with apps than Atom on Z551. Overall, i think Z551 is still a better choice
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Is that so? Is this out of benchmarks? I personally find the PowerVR to be underpowered / unstable in daily usage.
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yaju99 said:
Thank you guys,
I think Intel Atom is faster, but it takes big part of ram which I saw in Ze551ml (only 300 to 400 my free) and in case of ze550kl have 3gb ram and snapdragon 6 series really knows to handle bettry life but some times it works like snail.
What to do guys!?
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This is not really true. Did you grow up with a windows computer? The way Android / Linux / Mac OS handles RAM is slightly different. Usage of RAM is actually a good thing. Linux runs on mostly cache and more cache means better performance. You should not worry about launching a RAM-hungry app because it would simply release the cache and dedicate all the RAM to that app. There's really no harm in having 400mb. Even when filling your RAM, it doesn't fill 2GB at the snap of a finger! Its a gradual process.. So once that 400MB starts getting filled, more and more cache would be released to accommodate. I don't know if I got the technicalities right.. but my bottom line is don't judge performance by the amount of free RAM.
Just FYI. My 16GB RAM in the MBP is almost always full (only about 1.5 GB remaining). And right now I'm just surfing the net.
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yaju99 said:
Hello guys, I found moto g 3rd generation is good rival this competition. Should I go for that or Ze551ml is pure winner?
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Moto G is quite weak compared to the 551. Moto X would be a better comparison in my opinion.
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Is that so? Is this out of benchmarks? I personally find the PowerVR to be underpowered / unstable in daily usage.
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This is not really true. Did you grow up with a windows computer? The way Android / Linux / Mac OS handles RAM is slightly different. Usage of RAM is actually a good thing. Linux runs on mostly cache and more cache means better performance. You should not worry about launching a RAM-hungry app because it would simply release the cache and dedicate all the RAM to that app. There's really no harm in having 400mb. Even when filling your RAM, it doesn't fill 2GB at the snap of a finger! Its a gradual process.. So once that 400MB starts getting filled, more and more cache would be released to accommodate. I don't know if I got the technicalities right.. but my bottom line is don't judge performance by the amount of free RAM.
Just FYI. My 16GB RAM in the MBP is almost always full (only about 1.5 GB remaining). And right now I'm just surfing the net.
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Moto G is quite weak compared to the 551. Moto X would be a better comparison in my opinion.
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Thanks buddy, I don't know much about how system works.
So according to your knowledge which device is preferable?
yaju99 said:
Thanks buddy, I don't know much about how system works.
So according to your knowledge which device is preferable?
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Between the choices you've given, I'd say 551. But seriously consider the new OnePlus X!
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Between the choices you've given, I'd say 551. But seriously consider the new OnePlus X!
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Thanks, and ya
Obviously buddy, one plus x is handsome killer but it's so difficult to buy it because of invite system.
Do you have idea to get it directly?
Or do you have any invite to share ?
yaju99 said:
Thanks, and ya
Obviously buddy, one plus x is handsome killer but it's so difficult to buy it because of invite system.
Do you have idea to get it directly?
Or do you have any invite to share ?
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Nope. I signed up for the list. Will send you one if I get extra. But they will be having flash sales from next month I believe. I might be worth the wait. Check their website. Given the price point, that phone is a beast.
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Nope. I signed up for the list. Will send you one if I get extra. But they will be having flash sales from next month I believe. I might be worth the wait. Check their website. Given the price point, that phone is a beast.
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I have op2 invite but it's not working with one plus x.
Do you want it?
yaju99 said:
I have op2 invite but it's not working with one plus x.
Do you want it?
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Oh that is very nice of you to offer. But the op2 is a big no no for me. I hate the SD 810.
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Oh that is very nice of you to offer. But the op2 is a big no no for me. I hate the SD 810.
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Whats wrong with sd810 opx has sd801 so is it better ?
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Whats wrong with sd810 opx has sd801 so is it better ?
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Theoretically, no. 801 is quite an old processor and is more or less on par with the latest gen 600 series... like the 617. But the 810 is a curse. It overheats! And way I use the phone, if it overheats and gets throttled, I'm more likely to smash the phone than wait for it to cool down. There are upgraded versions of the 810 which are supposedly better. But I am not taking chances and as a marketer, I know what actually goes on behind the curtains.
So anyway, 801 is comparatively much underpowered and cheaper than the 810, but at least has no performance / heating / throttling issues and I get my money's worth. The OPX is cheaper than the OP2 but its more bang per buck.
Stop giving wrong information!
There isn't zenfone 2 ze551ml with 2 GB of ram and 1.8 ghz cpu clock speed!
The ZE551ML has 4 GB of ram, 2.3 GHZ cpu clock speed, full hd display and internal memory starting from 32 GB up to 128 GB
The ZE550ML has 2 GB of ram and 1.8 GHZ cpu clock speed, HD display and internal memory of 16 GB!
nothing94 said:
There isn't zenfone 2 ze551ml with 2 GB of ram and 1.8 ghz cpu clock speed!
The ZE551ML has 4 GB of ram, 2.3 GHZ cpu clock speed, full hd display and internal memory starting from 32 GB up to 128 GB
The ZE550ML has 2 GB of ram and 1.8 GHZ cpu clock speed, HD display and internal memory of 16 GB!
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Hmm no actually. There is a 551ml with 2GB and 1.8Ghz... But I wouldn't blame you. There are so many damn variations!
FYI: I believe the 550s are all HD and 551s are all Full HD
thedisturbedone said:
Hmm no actually. There is a 551ml with 2GB and 1.8Ghz... But I wouldn't blame you. There are so many damn variations!
FYI: I believe the 550s are all HD and 551s are all Full HD
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again? The ZE551ML has only 4 GB and Intel® Atom™ Z3580
The ZE550ML has only 2 GB of ram and Intel® Atom™ Quad Core Z3560
So differents models with differents specs. The ZE551ML doesn't exists with 2 GB and Z3560. You should do a short search on asus website before saying wrong things!
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Via Archos
"On model turbo 1.5 GHz / 1GB RAM, they will all be available by next week at the latest on the online store, except in the Archos 80 250GB. We await a date of supply for this reference."
They're the ones coming with ics right? The update must be close
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On archos worldwide facebook page they posted yesturday that ics will be out in the next two weeks
Sent from my ARCHOS 80G9 using XDA Premium HD app
Just to let those who want to know:
http://www.archos.com/store/psearch.html?country=gb&lang=en&prod_id=archos80g9ics
This is the 1GB 1.5Ghz model available in 8gb and 16gb.
Have just ordered after confirming ram with them.
Regards
What did they confirm? 512Mb or 1 Gb RAM?
Thanks
They told me that the one specifically on that link comes with 1GB of RAM.
Thank you!
I have just recieved the one from the link and.. it is 512mb RAM -.-;
I have mailed them to find out what's going on.
CORRECTION:
I have just upgraded to ICS and all of a sudden the device is showing 893MB of RAM!!
How weird! If anyone wants any details or anything please ask
theguy said:
CORRECTION:
I have just upgraded to ICS and all of a sudden the device is showing 893MB of RAM!!
How weird! If anyone wants any details or anything please ask
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I'm not surprised... the kernel has to support 1GB memory layout and it came late in Gingerbread kernels. Probably not really functional.
How does feel the tablet ? Smooth ?
Do you have access to a 512M one to compare ?
I have access to the 1GHz model so comparisons are unfortunately not just with the RAM.
However I can say that the browser supports many more tabs now without having to reload the tab when switching - also has not caused any crashes yet.
The most noticeable thing is when launching a memory intensive program on the 512 model the launcher is pushed out of memory and has to be reloaded when returning. This hasn't occured for me (yet) on the 1GB model.
Other than this I can't think of any other comparisons for just the RAM. Of course the device is much more fluid thanks to the higher GPU and CPU clock, and the quadrant score is a fair bit higher.
The dual core 1.5GHz Archos is only slightly faster than the single core galaxy tab? Are you sure?
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want to ask if you know the US turbo version would also get 1G RAM even if the CPU is 1.2GHz? Thanks in advance!
The Galaxy Tab has much lower blue (processor), red (memory), and yellow (graphics) score than the archos, but it has very high green (i/o) score which I think is to do with the speed of the flash storage.
U forgot to "reply me", but I saw ur post anyway... Well, I missed the color and compared the whole score, sorry about that, haha.
BTW, do you know the US turbo version also has a 1G RAM or the 512M one? Thanks!
The US turbo 1.2 GHz is 512 I'm pretty sure.
The 1.5GHz can be either 512mb or 1GB, you will have to ask wherever you want to buy it from
how about batterylife?
does anybody know if there are going to be custom roms cooked in the near futur?
thanks
The earlier period, P6 is sold frequently in Chinese market.
4.7 inch screen CPU with a metal shell, this kind of an apparence is exhilarating. Inside the machine, quad core, 2GB RAM is reasonable for you to purchase.
HUAWEI 3X, a monster with a bigger 5.5 inch screen, but the armor is softer, plastic. Octa-core, which is rarely in China smartphones. RAM is also 2GB.
That’s a surprising point. 8-core is just that unworthy?? Oh I almost forgot, the back camera of 3X turns up to 13MP. On the other side, P6’s is just 8MP.
I don’t understand it absolutely.
Unless you say, the metal is becoming precious as time goes by.
yandexrhino said:
The earlier period, P6 is sold frequently in Chinese market.
4.7 inch screen CPU with a metal shell, this kind of an apparence is exhilarating. Inside the machine, quad core, 2GB RAM is reasonable for you to purchase.
HUAWEI 3X, a monster with a bigger 5.5 inch screen, but the armor is softer, plastic. Octa-core, which is rarely in China smartphones. RAM is also 2GB.
That’s a surprising point. 8-core is just that unworthy?? Oh I almost forgot, the back camera of 3X turns up to 13MP. On the other side, P6’s is just 8MP.
I don’t understand it absolutely.
Unless you say, the metal is becoming precious as time goes by.
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K3V2 chipset costs alot. MTK chipsets are very cheap.
The 8-core MTK chipset is comparable to the snapdragon 800 chipset(!). Yes, it is more optimized than K3V2 and yes it is way more powerful than the K3V2 used in the P6.
A simple demonstration would be an antutu test: K3V2 phones score 13k-17k with 15k average, 8core MTK chipset and 4core snapdragon 800 scores 25k to 35k and ~30k for average, snapdragon 801 scores ~33k
tauio111 said:
K3V2 chipset costs alot. MTK chipsets are very cheap.
The 8-core MTK chipset is comparable to the snapdragon 800 chipset(!). Yes, it is more optimized than K3V2 and yes it is way more powerful than the K3V2 used in the P6.
A simple demonstration would be an antutu test: K3V2 phones score 13k-17k with 15k average, 8core MTK chipset and 4core snapdragon 800 scores 25k to 35k and ~30k for average, snapdragon 801 scores ~33k
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Why on earth the KRV2 chipset are expensive when the otherone is better. I don.t understend this phone it is driving me crazy. It is like Huawei dose not want this phone to perform equally to it.s hardwere. It is insane.
Maybe we can make a petition to hawei to force them to release the KK kernel source for the developers. If they can't do it let others that can.
savudragosh2 said:
Why on earth the KRV2 chipset are expensive when the otherone is better. I don.t understend this phone it is driving me crazy. It is like Huawei dose not want this phone to perform equally to it.s hardwere. It is insane.
Maybe we can make a petition to hawei to force them to release the KK kernel source for the developers. If they can't do it let others that can.
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i wouldn't say better!!!:good:
tauio111 said:
K3V2 chipset costs alot. MTK chipsets are very cheap.
The 8-core MTK chipset is comparable to the snapdragon 800 chipset(!). Yes, it is more optimized than K3V2 and yes it is way more powerful than the K3V2 used in the P6.
A simple demonstration would be an antutu test: K3V2 phones score 13k-17k with 15k average, 8core MTK chipset and 4core snapdragon 800 scores 25k to 35k and ~30k for average, snapdragon 801 scores ~33k
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What a perfectly accurate estimation. The question is Octa-core smartphone market is not going hotter. Generally speaking, it's reasonable to have a considerable selling. Anyway, to choose 8-core, most of them are insiders?!
Specs from the internet says its "Quad-core 1.4GHz Cortex-A7 CPU".
Mine is only at 1.2Ghz and the board is using Qualcomm MSM8228.
What's your CPU frequency?
danzel said:
Specs from the internet says its "Quad-core 1.4GHz Cortex-A7 CPU".
Mine is only at 1.2Ghz and the board is using Qualcomm MSM8228.
What's your CPU frequency?
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here are the specs you must have the dual sim version as it has the mm8228 chipset it quadcore just downclocked by sony after the kitkat update don't know why maybe to save battery life as i feel mine is snappier than when it was on jb and 1.4ghz )
Xperia T2 Ultra
SPECIFICATIONS
[Note: The Xperia T2 Ultra dual has identical specifications to the Xperia T2 Ultra, apart from being equipped with dual sim capability]
Facts
Operating system: Google™ Android™ 4.3 (Jelly Bean MR2)
Processor: 1.4 GHz quad-core [Qualcomm MSM8928 Snapdragon 400 chipset] (D5303, D5306 and XM50t models only)
Processor: 1.4 GHz quad-core [Qualcomm MSM8228 Snapdragon 400 chipset] (D5322 and XM50h models only) – The MSM8228 chipset has dual SIM support
GPU: Adreno 305
Size: 165.2 x 83.8 x 7.65mm
Weight: 171.7 grams (D5303), 172.4 grams (D5306), 170.6 grams (XM50t), 171.8 grams (D5322), 173.4 grams (XM50h)
SIM: micro SIM
geogetski666 said:
here are the specs you must have the dual sim version as it has the mm8228 chipset it quadcore just downclocked by sony after the kitkat update don't know why maybe to save battery life as i feel mine is snappier when it was on jb and 1.4ghz )
Xperia T2 Ultra
SPECIFICATIONS
[Note: The Xperia T2 Ultra dual has identical specifications to the Xperia T2 Ultra, apart from being equipped with dual sim capability]
Facts
Operating system: Google™ Android™ 4.3 (Jelly Bean MR2)
Processor: 1.4 GHz quad-core [Qualcomm MSM8928 Snapdragon 400 chipset] (D5303, D5306 and XM50t models only)
Processor: 1.4 GHz quad-core [Qualcomm MSM8228 Snapdragon 400 chipset] (D5322 and XM50h models only) – The MSM8228 chipset has dual SIM support
GPU: Adreno 305
Size: 165.2 x 83.8 x 7.65mm
Weight: 171.7 grams (D5303), 172.4 grams (D5306), 170.6 grams (XM50t), 171.8 grams (D5322), 173.4 grams (XM50h)
SIM: micro SIM
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I hope someone can unlock it so we can use its full potential.
danzel said:
I hope someone can unlock it so we can use its full potential.
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either way im happy with the battery life and the smoothness kitkat brings if it will just drain more battery life i am happy with just a 1.2ghz core )
but these scamsters cheated us with RAM
sajadkhan806 said:
but these scamsters cheated us with RAM
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You are right bro, theyve cheated us with RAM :/
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sajadkhan806 said:
but these scamsters cheated us with RAM
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AndroMAN said:
You are right bro, theyve cheated us with RAM :/
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No, they haven't. Afaik, you'll never find any device which has the entire ram for user space stuff. There certainly is 1gb ram in our device but around 159mb is reserved for our hardware parts by the ION memory allocator in the kernel. The remaining memory (1024-159=865mb) is for the user. So in short, the user available ram is 865mb which is quite a lot. Our device has pretty good hardware so that's why it takes up on 159mb. My previous device (Xperia S) had a msm8260 SoC requires 380mb ram for running kitkat properly. Even with around 620mb user ram, kk would run quite well.
T2 Ultra dual Cpu unlocking thread may help you
danzel said:
Specs from the internet says its "Quad-core 1.4GHz Cortex-A7 CPU".
Mine is only at 1.2Ghz and the board is using Qualcomm MSM8228.
What's your CPU frequency?
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If you are are using stock Jelly bean [ Kitkat not tested yet] then this thread is helpful
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2800200
It overclocks cpu 1.6
Mean allow you to use use upto 1.6 ghz. Not heating or other problem. You can try it on kitkat at your own rick19.1.C.0.116.
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either way im happy with the battery life and the smoothness kitkat brings if it will just drain more battery life i am happy with just a 1.2ghz core )
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You know quad core phone battery performance is better than single core so if we allow more cpu use mean less cpu use time result end good battery . overall 1.4ghz better perform in battery use too.
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No, they haven't. Afaik, you'll never find any device which has the entire ram for user space stuff. There certainly is 1gb ram in our device but around 159mb is reserved for our hardware parts by the ION memory allocator in the kernel. The remaining memory (1024-159=865mb) is for the user. So in short, the user available ram is 865mb which is quite a lot. Our device has pretty good hardware so that's why it takes up on 159mb. My previous device (Xperia S) had a msm8260 SoC requires 380mb ram for running kitkat properly. Even with around 620mb user ram, kk would run quite well.
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bro wat i meant to say was, for a price tag of 25 they were supposed to provide 2 gb of ram, coz they already profited themselves by providing only 8 gb of memory
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bro wat i meant to say was, for a price tag of 25 they were supposed to provide 2 gb of ram, coz they already profited themselves by providing only 8 gb of memory
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Then you should've thought about this before buying
Cheers,
AJ
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I have not any issues yet. I am a hard core user. Installed more than 40+ user apps.. But it shows around 350-380mb free when device is ideal. Where swift key [app] consumes 30MB.
#ram booster
#ram manger
Install following apps. They are very helpful.
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Then you should've thought about this before buying
Cheers,
AJ
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thanks for your suggestion, it really helped me
The galaxy tab s products that are available to me have an octa-core processor, with the high speed cores being 1.9ghz. I can't really understand why Samsung chose to use that instead of a 2.3ghz quad-core like in the tab pro.
See Wikipedia for an explanation of the concept: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_...multi-processing_.28global_task_scheduling.29
Because the Exynos 5 Octa-core is the one processor that Samsung has to be able to compete with Snapdragon 800, and is cheaper to implement since it's their own processor. I don't buy the Octa-core hype, I'd be happier with the Snapdragon 800 honestly like on the Tab PRO 8.4.
The question is:
Does TAB S use the 8 cores at the same time?
It seams it does NOT, little cores are only used when low power is required..
So performance wise, this CPU is slower than SD 800
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The question is:
Does TAB S use the 8 cores at the same time?
It seams it does NOT, little cores are only used when low power is required..
So performance wise, this CPU is slower than SD 800
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And yet I am getting 35,300 on Antutu using Shaheers t800 rom which is higher than any other current tablet or phone. (Shaheer's rom should go out of beta today - don't flash until final has been posted).
The Tab Pro 8.4 Antutu is 32,806.
I CANT PLAY NOVA 3 with exynos !
AND GAMING IS NOT SO SMOOTH ! STILL A BIT LAGGY
I can see the argument that you don't always need full power, thus the four slow cores, but since all cores can't run at once, it seems a cheat to have 1.9ghz as the top speed for the faster four cores. Since, or at least I assume, cores step up and down as needed, it seems to me a snapdragon 800 or higher at 2.3ghz or higher would have been just fine. I mean, if you are going to put in 3gb of RAM, then you should put in a great cpu also and not pretend less (1.9ghz) is a better contribution to what is supposed to be a premium tablet.
And yet I don't think samsung is doing enough to utilizing this hardware capability. In theory it should run at least 4x faster and 6x more effecient then the snap dragon and apple current A8 chip. It has failed to outshine the competitors because samsung software department sucks. Samsung hardware is still great though.
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I CANT PLAY NOVA 3 with exynos !
AND GAMING IS NOT SO SMOOTH ! STILL A BIT LAGGY
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Blame the developer for not making it compatible. Tegra powered Htc one x is incompatible too so not sure that is exynos issue..
i wish my t805 had Full HD screen resolution :cyclops:
Funny. Was just browsing the web a bit on my i5 ultrabook and it occurred to me that the browser on my Tab S is actually faster. If gaming is your primary thing, I'd buy the Nvidia Shield, not the Tab S. This tablet is designed for eye candy media consumption (internet and video) not for gaming enthusiasts. Try running your PC video card at 2560 x 1600 on ultra and see what you get.
i had heard from a Samsung rep i actually enjoy talking to that Sammy had just figured the all cores at once and we should see updates that turn that feature on. when this will happen who knows. i also did not ask him for a link and now cant find that info on the web so when i see him again soon i will get more info.
i would assume (insert you know what that means) that when/if this happens the full power of this setup would greatly improve?
anyway i have had my Tab S running snappy for me and no complaints at this time
You cannot compare the clock speeds from two different processors. For instance, you can't compare the 1.9GHz quad-core of the Exynos to the 2.3GHz quad-core of the Snapdragon 800. This doesn't mean anything. If you compare the clock speed of two Snapdragon chips, that's ok, or if you compare the clock speed of two Exynos chips, then that's ok too. Comparing the clock speed of an Intel chip against the clock speed of an AMD chip, is the same as comparing the clock speed of an Exynos chip to the clock speed of a Snapdragon chip.
The Exynos chip in this tablet has been shown to compete very well/close with the Snapdragon on every level except GPU. The Mali GPU in this chip just doesn't match the Adreno GPU from the Snapdragon. However, the RAM is faster in the Exynos than the Snapdragon.
That said, I am a fan of the Snapdragon chip, of course. I was holding off to see if the LTE variant of this tablet would have the Snapdragon 800, but instead they shipped with an Intel LTE modem. Besides apps/games not being optimized for Exynos, I am fairly satisfied with my purchase. I'm just anxious to get CyanogenMod(or any other AOSP ROM installed on it).
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i had heard from a Samsung rep i actually enjoy talking to that Sammy had just figured the all cores at once and we should see updates that turn that feature on. when this will happen who knows. i also did not ask him for a link and now cant find that info on the web so when i see him again soon i will get more info.
i would assume (insert you know what that means) that when/if this happens the full power of this setup would greatly improve?
anyway i have had my Tab S running snappy for me and no complaints at this time
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Could also mean increased battery consumption,don't know. Overall I am satisfied with this Tab including battery life.
There are 3 different performace results:
a) what Exynos 520 does achieve in practice now, measured bei some benchmarks and real world performance (<= Snapdragon 800)
b) what it could do theoretically - but will never happen due to driver and scheduler etc issues (>> Snapdragon)
c) what it will do some day in near future on an optimized ROM (somewhere in between?)
Fortunately the Exynos 5420 does support all 8 cores in parallel, see here:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Samsung-Exynos-5420-Octa-SoC.103633.0.html
pibach said:
There are 3 different performace results:
a) what Exynos 520 does achieve in practice now, measured bei some benchmarks and real world performance (<= Snapdragon 800)
b) what it could do theoretically - but will never happen due to driver and scheduler etc issues (>> Snapdragon)
c) what it will do some day in near future on an optimized ROM (somewhere in between?)
Fortunately the Exynos 5420 does support all 8 cores in parallel, see here:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Samsung-Exynos-5420-Octa-SoC.103633.0.html
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Wish I knew how. Probably a linux thing. ...
If it is possible to implement in today's existing source, I'm sure @AndreiLux would know about it ?
UpInTheAir said:
Wish I knew how. Probably a linux thing. ...
If it is possible to implement in today's existing source, I'm sure @AndreiLux would know about it ?
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It's impossible.
AndreiLux said:
It's impossible.
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What and why?
pibach said:
What and why?
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http://www.androidauthority.com/sam...ta-can-use-eight-cores-simultaneously-267316/
I've found a few articles saying it should support it, then a couple Deva saying they had to goto the 5422 for a working implementation of HMP.
Here is a post from odroid
http://forum.odroid.com/viewtopic.php?f=97&t=5651
That's weird. The (newer) 5422 supports HMP but not 3gb RAM.
I have an LG X Power LS 755 as a secondary/wifi phone that has 2gb ram/16gb rom & Mediatek MT6755/Mali-T860 MP2. My normal phone is a ZTE Blade Z Max which is 2gb ram/32gb rom & Snapdragon 435/Adreno 505. Mortal Kombat X runs fine on the LG unless you're playing for lengthy amount of time, same with the ZTE. CSR Racing 2 is the same on the ZTE...runs fine but after a while becomes choppy, probably because my ram is so low. LG however has difficulty running CSR 2 in general, it's choppy from the start. How does this Kirin chipset hold up to these 2? Seeing that the gpu on it is actually a step or 2 below the X Power (LS755 model, the other models have a crappier gpu), but has 3gb ram...
While using a slightly optimized version of the Kirin 650 series, Kirin 659 it uses the Mali T830MP2 which is used among many of their budget segment.
The predecessor to the Honor 7X is the Honor 6X and the performance should be pretty much similar.
Here is an example video of it's performance the Honor 6X
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydXqZXtqnWU
And here is an example video of the Honor 7X
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-8IYuw3QOw
As noted, very similar in gaming performance.
I just dont understand the phone market. 2gb ram has been around for a good 4 years, yet it finally is just now starting to become the norm. Yet the OS uses half of that. Chip manufacturers like Qualcomm are coming out with new supposedly faster chipsets, but using older Adrenos. It doesnt make sense to me.
GWARslave119 said:
I just dont understand the phone market. 2gb ram has been around for a good 4 years, yet it finally is just now starting to become the norm. Yet the OS uses half of that. Chip manufacturers like Qualcomm are coming out with new supposedly faster chipsets, but using older Adrenos. It doesnt make sense to me.
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It's business Buddy, we can't do anything