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[Q] New to LG. Root?

Mainly, whats the root/unlocking process like with LG phones? Is it as locked down as the new Samsung phones. I have a S3 now and looking to upgrade soon. Liking the G3 but ive never had a LG phone. Do you think the process will be similar to the G2?

In the exact same boat. Sub'd
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Dude I switched to LG with Nexus 4 and I was happy. You will love it after get used to not having touch wiz. Its quality. It was rooted pretty quickly
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I have an s3 also, and waiting for g3 on sprint. I did get a lg gpad first of the year and it was really easy to root, I'm assuming it would be the same for the g3. Fingers crossed
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Cool. Thanks for the responses. I hate TW myself and by the looks of the LG OS im gonna need to flash Paranoid Android as soon as possible.

Not to hijack your thread if you consider it off topic but I wonder whether the bootloader will be easier to unlock on the G3. I did some vague research on the G2 and it seems you need to be on a specific version to install custom recoveries and/or use loki patch. If I'm wrong, please correct me.

Multicores said:
Not to hijack your thread if you consider it off topic but I wonder whether the bootloader will be easier to unlock on the G3. I did some vague research on the G2 and it seems you need to be on a specific version to install custom recoveries and/or use loki patch. If I'm wrong, please correct me.
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thats true ! if you update your G2 with official KK OTA for example you will never be able to use loki ! so no more Custom recovery and root

and, it took the LG FLEX about 6 months for us just to get root, and that was while still on 4.2 JB..
I dont know how the G3 will be, but the FLEX is horrible for anything related to development..

wase4711 said:
and, it took the LG FLEX about 6 months for us just to get root, and that was while still on 4.2 JB..
I dont know how the G3 will be, but the FLEX is horrible for anything related to development..
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But the flex was also a niche phone and not very popular. ... This phone will have a much larger following so things will go faster by having more people working on it
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I do hope things will be easier with the G3. Fingers crossed but realistically, not sure and too early to be sure.

Epix4G said:
But the flex was also a niche phone and not very popular. ... This phone will have a much larger following so things will go faster by having more people working on it
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Hope your right, but only time will tell...

I am skeptical. I have the G2, and it took a while to achieve root with Kit Kat, and that was achieved by downgrading the bootloader to a previous version (the Jellybean one, which was loki-susceptible) and modifying the kernel to work with it (G2 devs are awesome). Being that the G3 will be released with Kit Kat and never having a previous loki susceptible bootloader, it might be extremely difficult to achieve root. We'll have to see...

beezar said:
I am skeptical. I have the G2, and it took a while to achieve root with Kit Kat, and that was achieved by downgrading the bootloader to a previous version (the Jellybean one, which was loki-susceptible) and modifying the kernel to work with it (G2 devs are awesome). Being that the G3 will be released with Kit Kat and never having a previous loki susceptible bootloader, it might be extremely difficult to achieve root. We'll have to see...
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Don't forget that they are leaking photos of developer edition of the G3 .... Could take a bootloader from that also. .. many ways around and our devs are good
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And now the international version is already rooted ....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2766429
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Epix4G said:
Don't forget that they are leaking photos of developer edition of the G3 .... Could take a bootloader from that also. .. many ways around and our devs are good
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Unfortunately, I've never witnessed a developer edition helping with an exploit of a retail version. Well, at least that is the case of Verizon's devices. In fact, seeing photos of a dev edition is kinda discouraging as it suggests that the retail will be most definitely locked down. Maybe it won't be as bad as the Galaxy S5 though (Verizon). Even though I have been exclusivity Samsung for a long time, their Nazi security has forced me to find another brand. Hopefully LG will not try to copy then in that aspect.

jal3223 said:
Unfortunately, I've never witnessed a developer edition helping with an exploit of a retail version. Well, at least that is the case of Verizon's devices. In fact, seeing photos of a dev edition is kinda discouraging as it suggests that the retail will be most definitely locked down. Maybe it won't be as bad as the Galaxy S5 though (Verizon). Even though I have been exclusivity Samsung for a long time, their Nazi security has forced me to find another brand. Hopefully LG will not try to copy then in that aspect.
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They will, when they become as big as Samsung. Then it will be time to move on to another competitor A Chinese one, probably.

Guillaume Delarue said:
They will, when they become as big as Samsung. Then it will be time to move on to another competitor A Chinese one, probably.
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All of these companies want corporate business, NOT consumer business; they have to convince corporations that their software/hardware is very secure and un crackable, so thats why they all lock down everything they can, and don't want people rooting/modding/bypassing their security schemes, so dont look for this to change anytime soon, as far as the "big 4" cell phone mfgs are concerned..

My 2 cents, if you value root, do NOT get this phone until it is verified to have an unlocked bootloader on your carrier's version. Do not count on an exploit being found, ever. There are many many sad people in the AT&T and Verizon S5 and Note 3 forums. It has been more than 4 months without root and a huge bounty of around $20k for root. If you normally keep phones for about a year like me that's almost half the life of the phone being locked down. No ad blocking, no titanium backup, no special security apps, and features that have been disabled by the carrier can't be enabled.

Epix4G said:
Don't forget that they are leaking photos of developer edition of the G3 .... Could take a bootloader from that also. .. many ways around and our devs are good
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Yeah that's not going to help... you can't just switch bootloaders, if you could do that then it would already be unlocked.

mircury said:
My 2 cents, if you value root, do NOT get this phone until it is verified to have an unlocked bootloader on your carrier's version. Do not count on an exploit being found, ever. There are many many sad people in the AT&T and Verizon S5 and Note 3 forums. It has been more than 4 months without root and a huge bounty of around $20k for root. If you normally keep phones for about a year like me that's almost half the life of the phone being locked down. No ad blocking, no titanium backup, no special security apps, and features that have been disabled by the carrier can't be enabled.
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Very good point; I know we waited 6 months on the LG flex to get root, so if the G3 follows a similar security scheme, its gonna be a long wait for those getting a G3 in the USA

I want to buy a T-Mobile G4. Some questions.

I am planning on going to the T-Mobile store later today to pick up a new G4, but first I wanted to ask some questions.
First, how long do you think I'll be waiting until I can root/flash ROMs/etc? I can live without these things for a while, but not forever!
Second, are the touchscreen and other issues something that I should seriously consider before getting this phone, or are they not that big of a deal? Are you guys all happy with the battery life?

So far I have not found any issues. It's been great on my end. Root will come.. It always does
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I bought the T-Mobile version from eBay and received it on Saturday. So far no issues. The only gripe I have is slow charging while using the phone, but I just ordered some quick chargers so I should be good.
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Thus far I am pretty happy with mine. I have noticed that it sometimes interprets a quick swipe as a press (thus opening an app I did not intend) and that, at least on mine, the digitizer may not go all the way to the edge of the screen. The leftmost 1/8" or so of the screen does not appear to register touch input. The right side isn't great either, but does seem better. I have not heard anyone else mention it though, so hopefully it is just my unit.
The only other gripe I have about it for now is that the viewing angle on the screen is pretty narrow. If you aren't looking at the display straight on it tends to get washed out.

danielhep said:
First, how long do you think I'll be waiting until I can root/flash ROMs/etc? I can live without these things for a while, but not forever!
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You should never get a phone with the hope of it getting root. It's a bad idea. Root is getting harder and harder to achieve especially with dmverity implemented (Variants of the Note 4 after 9 months still do not have root and most likely never will without a bootloader exploit.) Bootloader exploits are almost non existent. Unfortunately the Tmobile version of this phone has a locked bootloader. You have to also think how long you will have the phone. Are you willing to wait half or more of it's usable life for root?
Get a phone with an unlocked bootloader, then you will never have to worry about it. Get the G4 815 for example or a nexus. I'm running 5.1.1 on my note 3 which would be impossible with a locked bootloader. Unlocked bootloaders will give you a much longer lifespan.

Happy with mine as well, although I'm using MetroPCS SIM on my phone.
My advice really, hold on to your Nexus 5. I think its gonna be a while before you see any ROMS or unlock the boot loader. I can't go back go my Nexus 5 cause this phone is awesome. It was an impulse purchase.
If ROMS and having the phone fully unlocked for development, please don't buy it. Also the more I use this phone, the more I believe that CM12.1 even when it does hit the LG G4, it will be not running at its full potential. Some little things that Stock has, better camera app, the tap lock and unlock screen, lock screen quick view, I mean little things that the CM12.1 Rom will be missing unless it has access to all the drivers of the phone.
I've never forgiven LG for what they Did to the G2X. This phone is awesome and will have best experience with the Stock ROM. Its Not AOSP, I wish it was but it won't.
Just wait. The main reason I got it was because removable battery and SD card. Can't wait for ZeroLemon to release the batter for LG G4.

mircury said:
You should never get a phone with the hope of it getting root. It's a bad idea. Root is getting harder and harder to achieve especially with dmverity implemented (Variants of the Note 4 after 9 months still do not have root and most likely never will without a bootloader exploit.) Bootloader exploits are almost non existent. Unfortunately the Tmobile version of this phone has a locked bootloader. You have to also think how long you will have the phone. Are you willing to wait half or more of it's usable life for root?
Get a phone with an unlocked bootloader, then you will never have to worry about it. Get the G4 815 for example or a nexus. I'm running 5.1.1 on my note 3 which would be impossible with a locked bootloader. Unlocked bootloaders will give you a much longer lifespan.
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Does the international version have all the same bands? I really want to have band 12. WiFi calling is also important to me.
I wanted to buy it through T-Mobile also so I could get it on EIP, but I could just finance it through my parents too.
Where can I buy the international version?
What do you think the probability is that the T-Mobile version will get rooted?
Thanks
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vmartinez39 said:
Happy with mine as well, although I'm using MetroPCS SIM on my phone.
My advice really, hold on to your Nexus 5. I think its gonna be a while before you see any ROMS or unlock the boot loader. I can't go back go my Nexus 5 cause this phone is awesome. It was an impulse purchase.
If ROMS and having the phone fully unlocked for development, please don't buy it. Also the more I use this phone, the more I believe that CM12.1 even when it does hit the LG G4, it will be not running at its full potential. Some little things that Stock has, better camera app, the tap lock and unlock screen, lock screen quick view, I mean little things that the CM12.1 Rom will be missing unless it has access to all the drivers of the phone.
I've never forgiven LG for what they Did to the G2X. This phone is awesome and will have best experience with the Stock ROM. Its Not AOSP, I wish it was but it won't.
Just wait. The main reason I got it was because removable battery and SD card. Can't wait for ZeroLemon to release the batter for LG G4.
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How do you like the stock ROM? I'm used to using CM but I think I'd be okay with stock too. What is your experience?
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I think root will come out by end of summer. If your wanting root soon then don't get the G4. Personally I just suck it up and deal with it.
I've even had horrible dirty bad thoughts of selling my G4 and waking up with a ZenPhone 2 in my hands. Should I pull the trigger? http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VWKKEYO/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_7YoIvbGEVV1H6
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danielhep said:
How do you like the stock ROM? I'm used to using CM but I think I'd be okay with stock too. What is your experience?
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The stock ROM isn't awful. I came from SlimKat (based on CM) and there are definitely some features that I miss (Long press back to kill & double pressing back to switch the the most recent app mostly). But after installing Nova and reducing the DPI (via ADB) it is very workable. I am still holding out hope for root, but with how great the camera is I am not sure I would flash back to an AOSP ROM.

danielhep said:
I am planning on going to the T-Mobile store later today to pick up a new G4, but first I wanted to ask some questions.
First, how long do you think I'll be waiting until I can root/flash ROMs/etc? I can live without these things for a while, but not forever!
Second, are the touchscreen and other issues something that I should seriously consider before getting this phone, or are they not that big of a deal? Are you guys all happy with the battery life?
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Touch issues are fixed by the keyboard update. Just be sure to do all the updates available and you should be right as rain there.
Battery life, I get 28+ hours while streaming Spotify through BT speaker for 12 hours, an hour voice calls, as well as a bunch of other goofing around on the device. It's not Note 4 life, but it's far better than any most other phones I've had.
Root/unlock will come, but it could be a while. Honestly, I like the phone well enough stock to not really be all that worried about it. While I'm sure that some devs could make this a bit snappier by debloating it, the stock UI really is pretty snappy and nice.
Camera is also fantastic. Fast action shots come out clear....close up shots have TONS of detail.
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MicroMod777 said:
I think root will come out by end of summer. If your wanting root soon then don't get the G4. Personally I just suck it up and deal with it.
I've even had horrible dirty bad thoughts of selling my G4 and waking up with a ZenPhone 2 in my hands. Should I pull the trigger? http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VWKKEYO/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_7YoIvbGEVV1H6
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ZenPhone looks nice. I'll bet it's great overall, but I doubt that it'll fully compare to this one in screen quality or camera

Th3Bill said:
ZenPhone looks nice. I'll bet it's great overall, but I doubt that it'll fully compare to this one in screen quality or camera
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True, but I can't stay locked down without root forever while they wait for the bounty to get to $15k. I give it another few weeks for root, or I'm thinking of jumping ship to the ZenFone 2.

MicroMod777 said:
True, but I can't stay locked down without root forever while they wait for the bounty to get to $15k. I give it another few weeks for root, or I'm thinking of jumping ship to the ZenFone 2.
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Is that rooted? Checked it out...not much development going no over there...have like 1 ROM thread that was started back in March with not much since.
I'll chill here...looking forward to what does come when this device gets unlocked.

Th3Bill said:
Is that rooted? Checked it out...not much development going no over there...have like 1 ROM thread that was started back in March with not much since.
I'll chill here...looking forward to what does come when this device gets unlocked.
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Yea, I'd rather wait too, or maybe I can just have both! Wifey will probably kill me! lol

MicroMod777 said:
Yea, I'd rather wait too, or maybe I can just have both! Wifey will probably kill me! lol
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Looking at the specs, I'm tempted to try to convince my wife...though I doubt that would go over well for me either haha

Th3Bill said:
Looking at the specs, I'm tempted to try to convince my wife...though I doubt that would go over well for me either haha
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I had to pay a whopping $317 just to get my hands on a G4 through tmo's financing department. At least my monthly payments on it are very low.
But it will cost me $322 shipped for that ZenFone 2! I just want to play with it! lol

The phone is great, few things though, the root and subsequently the ROMs will be limited especially when compared to a nexus or even an S6, I have owned every nexus since the Galaxy nexus and I also owned the LG g3, which was a great phone, but development even to this day just never compared and that's mainly because of the carrier specific versions. So if you really like to try all kinds of different ROMs I suggest getting the Nexus 6 although I would say this phone is much better in my opinion but I miss and will continue to miss the variety of ROMs and customizations from my Nexus 6 as well as the screen and front facing speakers. Biggest benefit over the nexus 6 is the camera as well as the size/design/weight. As far as the battery I highly highly suggest using nova launcher instead of the stock LG and disable the LG apps if you can makes the battery life way way better, also get the free battery and SD card that will help to Haha.
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My only real complaint about this phone is the lack of root.

MicroMod777 said:
True, but I can't stay locked down without root forever while they wait for the bounty to get to $15k. I give it another few weeks for root, or I'm thinking of jumping ship to the ZenFone 2.
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Are they waiting on the bounty to hit $15k or until they can get a solid app with no errors that they can charge for?
I think it's more about the app.

mircury said:
You should never get a phone with the hope of it getting root. It's a bad idea. Root is getting harder and harder to achieve especially with dmverity implemented (Variants of the Note 4 after 9 months still do not have root and most likely never will without a bootloader exploit.) Bootloader exploits are almost non existent. Unfortunately the Tmobile version of this phone has a locked bootloader. You have to also think how long you will have the phone. Are you willing to wait half or more of it's usable life for root?
Get a phone with an unlocked bootloader, then you will never have to worry about it. Get the G4 815 for example or a nexus. I'm running 5.1.1 on my note 3 which would be impossible with a locked bootloader. Unlocked bootloaders will give you a much longer lifespan.
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Well said sir,
I screwed up and bought a Note 4 because of the deal I was getting ($400 outright), I immediately put away my flashaholics LG G2, and head to XDA only to see the At&t Note 4 has no ROMS, Kernels, or TWRP. Could not be more disappointed, a phone that should be a beast is hampered by no root. I would never touch the G4 or any other phone without full permanent root available in first 90 days of retail release. You are better off waiting to see what the new 2015 Moto X, Nexus ??, and OnePlus 2 will offer.

Possible Safestrap-esque recovery for our locked bootloader G4?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software-hacking/tool-multirom-recovery-replacement-t3102395 I came across this thread while browsing XDA, and I didn't know if this has been tried before on the G4. It's basically a recovery replacement for a locked bootloader phone that allows us to flash multiple roms to a device with a partitioned sd card (I think, I may be wrong). I don't have any extra SD cards so I'm throwing it out here in case anyone wants to try it out and see if it works. If it does maybe we'll start to see some rom development *fingers crossed*

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software-hacking/tool-multirom-recovery-replacement-t3102395 I came across this thread while browsing XDA, and I didn't know if this has been tried before on the G4. It's basically a recovery replacement for a locked bootloader phone that allows us to flash multiple roms to a device with a partitioned sd card (I think, I may be wrong). I don't have any extra SD cards so I'm throwing it out here in case anyone wants to try it out and see if it works. If it does maybe we'll start to see some rom development *fingers crossed*
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I used this on my Note 3 and it worked really well! It's a great recovery replacement. Unfortunately you will need developers to build their roms to support MultiSystem.
I haven't tried this on my G4 because of the lack of MultiSystem roms for it. I haven't even been able to get FlashFire to work with my G4 (it may have been the file, I tried to flash to 60 FPS mod in flashfire and it failed, it didn't cause any issues, it just didn't flash like it was suppose to).
I am really hoping for a Bootloader unlock soon, or something similar to safestrap. IMHO MultiSystem works great, but SafeStrap was a better, and easier to use solution!

FlashFire works. I'm just waiting on the roms!

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FlashFire works. I'm just waiting on the roms!
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It works for roms as well?

mfun89 said:
It works for roms as well?
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So far it works for everything we've tried. We just don't have any roms to flash.
Some general discussion - http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/flashfire-locked-bootloader-g4s-t3182105
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Maybe we can get another "Bump" type of recovery/images? Worked really well for the G3...

Ban-Hammer said:
Maybe we can get another "Bump" type of recovery/images? Worked really well for the G3...
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Yes just hope it's in the works patiently waiting quietly
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Sorry for reviving old threads but is this possible yet

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Sorry for reviving old threads but is this possible yet
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No

Keep working on it guys

I'm not sure anybody's even working on the G4 anymore are they? I'm worried that people have moved on to greener pastures. I say this as a sad Verizon G4 owner btw.

RIP G4.. 6 mo left til contract ends.
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I'm not sure anybody's even working on the G4 anymore are they? I'm worried that people have moved on to greener pastures. I say this as a sad Verizon G4 owner btw.
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Bootloader or bootloader bypass has been an after thought for quite some time now...

what are you going to get? I'm not even sure whats out there worth picking up. I NEED replaceable batteries.

supasoju said:
RIP G4.. 6 mo left til contract ends.
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Dang how are you already out in 6 months? I got this on release day and I still have a year to go. So sick of LG's skin but I can't get out early since I was dumb enough to do Verizon's device payment plan. Not that this phone is worth anything in resale.

Wumbonaut said:
Dang how are you already out in 6 months? I got this on release day and I still have a year to go. So sick of LG's skin but I can't get out early since I was dumb enough to do Verizon's device payment plan. Not that this phone is worth anything in resale.
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The G4 has been out for a year plus. I don't understand your 6 month thought? Verizon also does early upgrades. I just don't see an upgrade worth the money over my G4 or V10.

leroybrute said:
The G4 has been out for a year plus. I don't understand your 6 month thought? Verizon also does early upgrades. I just don't see an upgrade worth the money over my G4 or V10.
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The Verizon g4 didn't come out until June of last year - which is when I got it. Just jealous you only have 6 months left with it.

Wumbonaut said:
The Verizon g4 didn't come out until June of last year - which is when I got it. Just jealous you only have 6 months left with it.
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May 2015 for the G4.. I like my v10 better. My S7 edge is okay but not worth the upgrade to me.I am planning for the lg V series upgrade or note 6.

I have until August of 2017 on mine. I upgraded to the iPhone 6 plus in August of 2015, then sold it for $500 and bought a brand new opened box G4 for $300 in February 2016. So my payment plan was for the iPhone, but in the end, I'll be paying $200 less total.

Anyone switching to the LG V30?

I'm just curious if anyone is thinking of moving to the LG V30 and if so what are your thoughts as to why? I'm good with my S8+ on Tmobile right now, but wouldn't mind a new device by the end of the year. Don't really care about the goggles that they're touting to give away, there's just not enough usable content out there to make them compelling. I used mine for about a week and now they just collect dust.
Just wondering what everyone else is thinking.

Depends if you want root. LG has been removing fastboot commands from US phones for awhile. I have a V10 as a backup but can honestly say I have no interest in going back to LG devices.

sabresfan said:
Depends if you want root. LG has been removing fastboot commands from US phones for awhile. I have a V10 as a backup but can honestly say I have no interest in going back to LG devices.
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I'm just curious, I liked the LG devices. What makes you say you won't go back to them?
I didn't know about them removing fastboot. Does that mean we can't root the V30?

I can't say for sure if root will be achieved. The only reason root was achieved on the v20 was the dirtycow exploit. LG had heat issues and screen burn in issues on the three devices of theirs I've had in the last few years. Not to mention the whole bootloop issue on many devices.

I will not, My G4, My v10, Mom's, friends v10's bootlooped. I can't trust my memories to a device that has James Bond (Sorry meant Mission Impossible) motherboard.
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No more LG devices after the way they handled the bootloop issue.

djnikkofb said:
I will not, My G4, My v10, Mom's, friends v10's bootlooped. I can't trust my memories to a device that has James Bond motherboard.
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Sorry for the dumb question, what does "James Bond motherboard" mean? I've NEVER had an issue with an LG device so maybe I'm one of the lucky few. I like the form factor and I like the devices themselves. Just I'm waffling between switching as I bought a bunch of stuff for the s8+ so what do I do with all the stuff?

Sanjsrik: Sorry meant Mission Impossible.. Meaning self destructing
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Sanjsrik: Sorry meant Mission Impossible.. Meaning self destructing
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Oh, no worries. Were a lot of the devices having this issue? I had no issues at all with my V10 or V20.

yes, and there was a lawsuit brought against LG.
info: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.xd...ssue-has-been-compelled-into-arbitration/amp/
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djnikkofb said:
yes, and there was a lawsuit brought against LG.
info: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.xd...ssue-has-been-compelled-into-arbitration/amp/
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geezalou, that sounds awful. I had absolutely no issues with my V10 or V20. I really liked the devices. I even rooted and put a good custom ROM on them.

The crazy nuts thing about the bootlooped issue from what I've experienced was; The G4, v10,G5,v20 line would bootlooped if u we're NOT rooted, NOT ever rooted, or currently rooted. My mom is to old to know what root is so she had a bone stock AT&T v10, My wife's was rooted on T-Mobile, and my father in law G4 was Verizon unrooted. so it's all carriers
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djnikkofb said:
The crazy nuts thing about the bootlooped issue from what I've experienced was; The G4, v10,G5,v20 line would bootlooped if u we're NOT rooted, NOT ever rooted, or currently rooted. My mom is to old to know what root is so she had a bone stock AT&T v10, My wife's was rooted on T-Mobile, and my father in law G4 was Verizon unrooted. so it's all carriers
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I never had an issue. That's weird. Now, I'm starting to doubt the V30 thing. Well, the S8+ is a good phone so far.

I've only had my S8+ for a couple of months, so probably not. My last phone went tits up on me in August (my fault) and I needed a new phone, so decided to get the S8+, since it was one of the best Android phones available at the time. But if the V30 had been available at the time I might have opted for it instead of the S8+.
Tbh the fingerprint sensor placement still bugs the **** out of me. Others say that you get used to it, but two months later it still takes me 2-3 tries to get it to read correctly most times, even with a case. I use it dozens of times throughout the day, so it's not a little problem for me.
Don't get me wrong, other than that it's a great phone, and Samsung Pay is much better than Android Pay, imo. Also one of the first phones in years that I didn't feel the need to root immediately, which was honestly a bit of a surprise.
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It' s a damn good phone but the pOLED is a disaster. It's on the level of AMOLED 4 years ago with uneven illumination, blotches and stripes.
https://www.theverge.com/2017/10/16/16457544/lg-v30-review-design
The sad thing is this subpar screen will be probably in the Pixel 2 XL.

I had it and ugh sent it back oled and selfie cam were a bust for me.

monkey39 said:
I've only had my S8+ for a couple of months, so probably not. My last phone went tits up on me in August (my fault) and I needed a new phone, so decided to get the S8+, since it was one of the best Android phones available at the time. But if the V30 had been available at the time I might have opted for it instead of the S8+.
Tbh the fingerprint sensor placement still bugs the **** out of me. Others say that you get used to it, but two months later it still takes me 2-3 tries to get it to read correctly most times, even with a case. I use it dozens of times throughout the day, so it's not a little problem for me.
Don't get me wrong, other than that it's a great phone, and Samsung Pay is much better than Android Pay, imo. Also one of the first phones in years that I didn't feel the need to root immediately, which was honestly a bit of a surprise.
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It's a lot better if you use a case to help find it

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The crazy nuts thing about the bootlooped issue from what I've experienced was; The G4, v10,G5,v20 line would bootlooped if u we're NOT rooted, NOT ever rooted, or currently rooted. My mom is to old to know what root is so she had a bone stock AT&T v10, My wife's was rooted on T-Mobile, and my father in law G4 was Verizon unrooted. so it's all carriers
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Now, I'm sort of sorry I asked. I was going to switch, but figure I can wait. While the S8+ doesn't have root or bootloader unlocked, the hell I know is better than the (you know the rest).
Anyone else seeing the "me-too" thing of LG offering the VR glasses. I have the ones that came with the S8+ but after the initial wow factor, it got old real fast and a lack of content made them useless. Even sideloaded, there wasn't a lot of good content. Most of it was overpriced and just bad.

Anyone that received their phone returning it?

Did you receive your XL phone and now plan to return it after playing around with it? If so, for what reason (s)?
Thanks.

hammer7t said:
Did you receive your XL phone and now plan to return it after playing around with it? If so, for what reason (s)?
Thanks.
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Just go ahead and cancel your order if you are worried. There are many posts to read to give you an idea. Read on op.

hammer7t said:
Did you receive your XL phone and now plan to return it after playing around with it? If so, for what reason (s)?
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nope, fantastic device.

I think I will be. Forcing myself to use it until tomorrow or a few more days...then decide between keeping this or my V30. Heavily leaning toward V30 right now.

I'm not sure yet, will use for a week and then decide. I really like the phone, but get the off axis blue screen quite a bit.
I'm not sure if mine is worse than normal or similar to other units.
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I am giving myself until Friday. If Google doesn't release an update to fix these software glitches, it is going back.

keithleger said:
I think I will be. Forcing myself to use it until tomorrow or a few more days...then decide between keeping this or my V30. Heavily leaning toward V30 right now.
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Why the v30 over the xl2?
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everyone. you got 15 days to return it. if it passed 15 days it can't be refunded. just a reminder. and applicable only on google store purchases... i know most of you already know it but just wanna remind everyone again for that... thank you so much...

I will be returning my verizon variant pixel 2 xl due to the bootloader being locked. I may buy it from google store after doing more review reading. Overall it seems like a great phone for using it a few days.

uicnren said:
nope, fantastic device.
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Completely agree

I'm also in the "nope, not returning it" group. I really like my 2 XL and my screen is just fine for my eyes.

I impulse purchased the device at Verizon the other night. I have the Note8 but wanted the Pixel2 as a replacement for my Nexus 6P whuch gets used for kernel hacking & ROM development. Having learned that the Verizon won't be unlocking the bootloader was a deal breaker for me. Mine is going back.
After seeing the screen and playing with the device I'm not interested in ordering the unlocked sku directly from Google. I'm unsure what to buy for a new dev device at this point.
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It's not what I hoped it would be, bought Verizon one hoping like last year I could unlock bootloader. Gonna return and go with one plus 5t most likely. Gonna test drive v30 also.

People returning the Verizon variant phone because they couldn't unlock the bootloader!? Really? At this point, that is old news about Verizon phones. If that's what you care about, that is a scenario in which you wait to see if anyone figures out unlocking the bootloader before you buy. Secondly, I bought the unlocked variant from Google knowing full well that it'll be a while probably before we get things like root and twrp. Not trying to bash on anyone, but c'mon. Y'all should know better.
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Nope

Does anyone know if Google provides a free shipping label for a return?

Wbroshea said:
Does anyone know if Google provides a free shipping label for a return?
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You'll get an email with a printable return label.

aaronc_98 said:
Why the v30 over the xl2?
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See my post here https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74247798&postcount=142

capsnbottles said:
It's not what I hoped it would be, bought Verizon one hoping like last year I could unlock bootloader. Gonna return and go with one plus 5t most likely. Gonna test drive v30 also.
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Does the 5t even work on Verizon?

It's a phenomenally fluid device and killer battery life, but I really can't get used the display which is so essential, so returning it.