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OK I have two lines of vzw service. I am so sick of having to wait almost a year for an updated is but by then that is outdated as Google will have 4.2 but key lime pie will be announced soon... I got so sick of it I already traded on phone a RAZR xt912 for a iPhone 4. I placed another ad on craigslist to trade my galaxy nexus.... this update crap of even a nexus having to wait months is crap. I am gonna try to trade my 32gb galaxy nexus for an iPhone 4 or 4s or 5....
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Blame the carrier. No one else
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Blame the carrier. No one else
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Yes I agree. You see apple can release an update and when Apple says its available its available.... so if apple can do it then Google can as well. Google should never announce the newest version until all phones that can handle it are ready for it.
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Yes I agree. You see apple can release an update and when Apple says its available its available.... so if apple can do it then Google can as well. Google should never announce the newest version until all phones that can handle it are ready for it.
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Different story with Android vs Apple. The entirety of Apple's lineup doesn't even equal one year's worth of Android releases, so there are far fewer device builds to write for. In addition Apple is completely in charge of the manufacturing process for their products, whereas Google is only partially in control of one. Even with all of that nonsense though, the manufacturer skins and carrier testing are the major bottlenecks for the pace of update releases.
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Different story with Android vs Apple. The entirety of Apple's lineup doesn't even equal one year's worth of Android releases, so there are far fewer device builds to write for. In addition Apple is completely in charge of the manufacturing process for their products, whereas Google is only partially in control of one. Even with all of that nonsense though, the manufacturer skins and carrier testing are the major bottlenecks for the pace of update releases.
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Still that's no excuse... the base is should be upgradable just like in windows phone series... Google needs to stop custom market skins like sense ui and touchwiz or make parts of them optional like how go launcher go dialer go SMS all are. Also android hardware should be all the same.. let the device look different by the external design such as glass plastic metal and such...
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Why go for CDMA in the first place? GSM is the way to go. I don't care for the lousy LTE speeds, anything I need can be done with 5mbps.
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Yes I agree. You see apple can release an update and when Apple says its available its available.... so if apple can do it then Google can as well. Google should never announce the newest version until all phones that can handle it are ready for it.
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apple still gets carrier approval. it seems seemless because they wait to publish the update until they get all the approvals.
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apple still gets carrier approval. it seems seemless because they wait to publish the update until they get all the approvals.
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Then that's what Google needs to do for all devices wait until all approvals are given and we know exactly what devices will get it.
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Google should never announce the newest version until all phones that can handle it are ready for it.
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So you never want Google to release updates? Great plan there. Everyone knows GSM phones are the only truly free (as in open, not free as in beer) phones.
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Why go for CDMA in the first place? GSM is the way to go. I don't care for the lousy LTE speeds, anything I need can be done with 5mbps.
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It came down to me having to pay past bills to att and T-Mobile... Verizon was no deposit...
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Here are your two reasons:
1) Google releases source code, and relies on an open platform. CDMA is NOT an open platform. So verizon/sprint/etc get to dictate terms.
2) Verizon HATES open platforms/being told what to do. This is why you see the CDMA GNex not getting timely updates (vzw/sprint has to OK it) and also why you see vzw blocking Google wallet, adding in their apps.
If you want ALL carriers to stop their bull****, stop buying their phones and start buying open platforms such as unlocked gsm nexus phones. The carriers make a lot of money off their subsidized phones and accompanying plans. Remove their power, and they'll listen.
Also, the reason apple can update the way they do is: a "unified" userbase, and not having an open platform.
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What I'm sick of is people buying CDMA phones then crying when they don't get the update immediately. You knew this was coming when you bought the phone. Delayed CDMA updates have happened before, it's nothing new. It's like complaining about waiting in line at the DMV.
I am upset because I was under the impression that a Galaxy Nexus was a true nexus and I was sure I would get the full experience. I wish I would have known the CDMA GNex wouldn't be as supported as the GSM GNex
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It came down to me having to pay past bills to att and T-Mobile... Verizon was no deposit...
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Gotcha. What about prepaid?
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I am upset because I was under the impression that a Galaxy Nexus was a true nexus and I was sure I would get the full experience. I wish I would have known the CDMA GNex wouldn't be as supported as the GSM GNex
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It still makes it a CDMA phone, common sense if you ask me.
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It still makes it a CDMA phone, common sense if you ask me.
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then i have to pay full retail price of the phone and about a grand for an iphone 5 and about 700 to 1 grand for an s3... and then the nexus 4 has no lte. I would love to use simple mobile with 4g speeds.... Put i will now try to trade for an iphone of some sort. The update 4.2 was released today by google and i still dont have it on my gnex from verizon. All nexus devices should be like iphones and be world phones.. apple can program them at the factory as to cdma or gsm.... so them we can jail break them and switch between gsm and cdma....
I'm on sprint... next year I won't be. Nuff said. LOL. It's not Google's fault.
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I'm on sprint... next year I won't be. Nuff said. LOL. It's not Google's fault.
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Yes.it is googles fault. They should handle all updates via the play store for all os. I went to vzw they blame Google... Google blames carriers...
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Have you read up on this at all? Basically the drivers for the CDMA technology is what holds the process up.. that's a carrier problem. GSM is an open standard where CDMA is closed, so carriers have to get involved with Google to make sure updates work the way they're supposed to. ESPECIALLY with LTE.. which is why there's no LTE on the Nexus 4. Your best bet is T-Mobile. I'm fine with that. T-Mob is actually pretty good in my area and HSPA+ is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than Sprints crappy 3G and non-existant LTE service.
All that to say. No it's not Google's fault. They ARE handling the updates OTA where they can.. but Sprint and Verizon have to lock down the radio's and what not. I actually applaud Google for going the route they did with the Nexus 4. It's a philosophy I'm willing to support with my dollars. I'm willing to give up LTE ... which i technically don't have now anyway.
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then i have to pay full retail price of the phone and about a grand for an iphone 5 and about 700 to 1 grand for an s3... and then the nexus 4 has no lte. I would love to use simple mobile with 4g speeds.... Put i will now try to trade for an iphone of some sort. The update 4.2 was released today by google and i still dont have it on my gnex from verizon. All nexus devices should be like iphones and be world phones.. apple can program them at the factory as to cdma or gsm.... so them we can jail break them and switch between gsm and cdma....
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The GSM GN only ran at $350 plus tax which is a very reasonable price considering you're not going to be tied to contracts and are free to switch from carrier to carrier with the same device.
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Zepius said:
apple still gets carrier approval. it seems seemless because they wait to publish the update until they get all the approvals.
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Then that's what Google needs to do for all devices wait until all approvals are given and we know exactly what devices will get it.
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So you want google to delay their updates to the rest of us just so you won't get unhappy?
Like the way Verizon was stuck on 4.0.2 for months?
I don't think so.
Just wondering everything we know seems to suggest a "nexus" phone really, even if it won't be branded as such. I did not care for the LG version, so I skipped it but I am seriously thinking of upgrading to the Moto X unless the information posted so far turns out to be wrong.
Not on Verizon lol
Edit: for me, I like specs. This phone will not keep my interest with mid range specs. Maybe if I see the software on this phone with the Google optimizations, I might consider. For now, eyes are on a potential Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 smartphone.
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I did not care for the LG version, so I skipped it but I am seriously thinking of upgrading to the Moto X
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Just being curious, why are you interested in the Moto X and not the Nexus 4, when both devices look really similar in terms of specs (the Nexus 4 looks even slightly better) ?
I'm thinking about the just announced Droid Maxx to replace my GNex. I'm waiting until I can hold it and people start getting them. Spec sheets are overrated.
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I'm thinking about the just announced Droid Maxx to replace my GNex. I'm waiting until I can hold it and people start getting them. Spec sheets are overrated.
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Locked bootloader? No thanks.
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Just being curious, why are you interested in the Moto X and not the Nexus 4, when both devices look really similar in terms of specs (the Nexus 4 looks even slightly better) ?
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Locked bootloader? No thanks.
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+1 to both.
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I think my power button is going out so I'm sort of in the market for a new phone(thank god for volume wake/navbar screen off). As long as the price below $250, gets better battery life than our GN, I'm in. But I'm also curious if this IS the new nexus or if they'll be releasing another $350 Nexus with better specs later this year.
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But I'm also curious if this IS the new nexus or if they'll be releasing another $350 Nexus with better specs later this year.
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dancingtortoise, it's not a new Nexus phone: the Nexus 4 will still be in available for sale. We can probably expect a new Nexus phone for Oct-Nov 2013.
Yeah, I like the customization options for it, only thing holding me back (and only by a small bit) is the last year specs. That said, if the price is right then I'll pick it over the Nexus 4 and finally drop Sprint to switch to TMobile. Regardless, the Moto X price I think will be the deciding factor, if it's $200-ish then alot of people will probably get it just based on the hype alone. If it's $300-ish or more then I imagine it will fall more into a niche market.
I started with the original moto droid but I swore off Motorola after I got the droid 3. I was very disappointed. I used a fascinate in between selling the d3 and getting the gnex. I was running hellybean 4.2.2 and loving it, on a single core! The new moto phones look nice, but I will wait until the next Google nexus comes out, no matter who makes it. I just hope the phone comes out for Verizon too this time!
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Just being curious, why are you interested in the Moto X and not the Nexus 4, when both devices look really similar in terms of specs (the Nexus 4 looks even slightly better) ?
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The Nexus 4 was too flimsy, heard waaaaay too many horror stories about build quality, easy breaking and lock ups. And anyway the hardware improvements were not a big enough upgrade to me, and I already had the software on my GNex. The hardware upgrades here seem more of an actual upgrade(i like the alleged 32gb option). Even though as before I will have to wait and see, and I will already have the new software upgrades since I am assuming this thing runs 4.3
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I started with the original moto droid but I swore off Motorola after I got the droid 3. I was very disappointed. I used a fascinate in between selling the d3 and getting the gnex. I was running hellybean 4.2.2 and loving it, on a single core! The new moto phones look nice, but I will wait until the next Google nexus comes out, no matter who makes it. I just hope the phone comes out for Verizon too this time!
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From everything I have heard, and certainly this has not been confirmed, there will never be another nexus phone on Verizon. Ever. Google was pissed the way Verizon dealt with them on the GNex and supposedly has unofficially said they will never do that again. So at the very least you may want to think of a plan B
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Not on Verizon lol
Edit: for me, I like specs. This phone will not keep my interest with mid range specs. Maybe if I see the software on this phone with the Google optimizations, I might consider. For now, eyes are on a potential Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 smartphone.
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Locked bootloader? No thanks.
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And what device on Verizon DOESN'T have a locked bootloader (GNex doesn't count)? The One when/if it hits? Well, if you like the One, go for it. Based on what was released earlier today, the Moto X/Droid line is far from "mid range specs". Hogwash, pure hogwash. The mid range spec thing was a rumor based on rumor. Motorola didn't say that and neither has any carrier. It was assumed because the processor was listed as "dual core" on FCC filings. Further, we haven't really seen the device in action yet. So far it looks like stock Android with a couple of Motorola widgets and some custom icons tossed in here and there along the OS. Looking at Motorola's X8 processor, it seems far from "old". Just because you read "Dual Core" online, it doesn't really mean a whole lot in this case. Is it going to be developer friendly? Probably not. But it depends on what you want. If you want to spend the life of your device flashing buggy roms and waiting for CM XX.XX to finally finish right as the next version of Android comes out so you do it all over again, well, then it's probably not for you. I think the X8 looks very intriguing.
For me, if it runs smooth, fast and lasts as long as my GNex does with my Hyperion then frankly it's a home run. I've always looked to Nexus devices to get the latest updates. Now, with Google's new APK's, that's less of an issue to me. Further, with Motorola having exclusive right's to develop the "Droid" line for Verizon and talks of them slowing down device roll outs, I'm thinking that this might provide opportunities for more updates (Especially with Google having a hand in Motorola now).
Don't like it, don't buy it. Personally, I moved to Verizon for the GNex knowing full well that it might be the only thing remotely close to "Nexus" that the carrier ever got. If it runs smooth with zero lag then that puts it up there with the One, and both will stand above the S4. Looking at a Spec Sheet is right up there with a redneck showing off their belt buckle size. People are duped into buying laggy crappy phones with awesome spec sheets every quarter.
Chase those quad cores that don't even have software and apps optimized to use them.
Do you optimize, bros!?
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From everything I have heard, and certainly this has not been confirmed, there will never be another nexus phone on Verizon. Ever. Google was pissed the way Verizon dealt with them on the GNex and supposedly has unofficially said they will never do that again. So at the very least you may want to think of a plan B
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Noooooooooooo! That might be enough for me to move to another carrier. I just hate to lose my unlimited data.
Wasntv Verizon getting the different versions of the HTC one and S4 with AOSP versions of android on them?
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Noooooooooooo! That might be enough for me to move to another carrier. I just hate to lose my unlimited data.
Wasntv Verizon getting the different versions of the HTC one and S4 with AOSP versions of android on them?
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Not sure but even if so, you could always buy a verizon phone, root it and toss pure Android on it You'd have to pay full price for that HTC one. Honestly paying full price for a subsidized verizon contract AND paying full price for a phone would just be silly.
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Noooooooooooo! That might be enough for me to move to another carrier. I just hate to lose my unlimited data.
Wasntv Verizon getting the different versions of the HTC one and S4 with AOSP versions of android on them?
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Nope the Nexus experience devices are for ATT and T-Mobile only
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Peeee yoooo. Who farted?
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Not sure but even if so, you could always buy a verizon phone, root it and toss pure Android on it You'd have to pay full price for that HTC one. Honestly paying full price for a subsidized verizon contract AND paying full price for a phone would just be silly.
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Yeah, just not the moto phones with locked boot loaders That's what made me get rid of my d3. Well I'm happy with my gnex for now, we'll just have to wait and see. I don't see a need to get rid of it for at least another year. Even if we don't get KLP, cm or other ROM devs will keep it going for a bit. :beer:
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From what I've read around the web.. Nothing official, of course.... The Moto X looks to be similar in specs as the Droid Ultra.
I don't know if Verizon cares or not, but there are a lot of g'nex users keeping their phones due to lack of a satisfactory replacement. Maybe that will put a little pressure on big V to have 1 nexus phone on their service.
Just dreaming....
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Here is an article about the issue with Verizon.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-33620_3-5...zon-ever-see-a-pure-android-smartphone-again/
Hey, I have a nexus 7 with LTE. Can I flash any custom Rom?
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Hey, I have a nexus 7 with LTE. Can I flash any custom Rom?
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Hello,
Is it the New Nexus 7 released in 2013?
If yes, I am not even aware it is available yet although I did read in the news that a man from China got it by mistake while shipping it from USA.
Do not tell me that you are that guy
Well, if you have the old model, Nexus 7 2012, then you have posted this in the wrong thread.
If you have the new Nexus 7, It depends that you can run custom roms or not. No one has seen the binaries or flash images for the New Nexus 7 so I can not say it might work or not. You might have to take the risk if you still want to try.
Also, I think unless LTE is integrated with some system files, you will be cool to go and not be able to use communications but that is still highly unlikely because from the old Nexus 7 LTE model, I know the source binaries were quite different.
You can even hard brick your device.
My advice, enjoy the LTE till it is official.
I work for a mobile company in the UK. So I have a final test one. A nexus 2013 LTE.
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Your a lucky man
Mine doesn't have the touch screen issues that a lot of people are suffering from. But for those that are does your n7 have multi-touch issues?
>^.^< Sent from meow HTC One which is like catnip to me atm
No multi touch issues so far....
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No multi touch issues so far....
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Any word on a release date?
Can you make a nandroid of that rom beforehand and upload it?
(I would recommend against using TWRP for the moment as it has a lot of issues with nandroids, there seem to be a working CWM at the moment)
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Any word on a release date?
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i sure hope it's soon!
Do u have to give it back
Great news.
I hope it does better than the TF600TL - another Asus LTE device (running Windows RT). LOL
can we make phone calls?
No phone on stock
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No phone on stock
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Probably never will make any voice calls, they so far go on overlaid 3g networks due to lots of upgrades required in the backhaul. Voip, ie. CSipSimple, is the way to go. And you will need a headset.
The Phone App is in the filesystem but doesn't show in the ui.
I'm hoping this will be different as it uses a different chip than the nexus 7 3g(2012)
The 2013 N7 LTE should be using a APQ8064-1AA + MDM9615A + WTR1605L,
which is very similar to the APQ8064 + MDM9615A + WTR1605L on the N4.
While it might be (hypothetically) possible for it to do so in hardware, it could still be disabled.
Both the N4 and 2013 N7's wifi/bt chips also support fm radio at the silicon level, but it's disabled at the chip level.
The LTE on the N4 is disabled at the firmware level (as the lte mod is due to leftover code, if it were not for that it doesnt have LTE period)
It could have voice calls disabled at the silicon level, chip level, firmware level, or rom level, since they can easily spec modems that have broken voice call support since it's not used in the first place.
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If your read the thread you would have found that he got it because he was a tester or something. He posted proof that it was legit.
/facepalm
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If your read the thread you would have found that he got it because he was a tester or something. He posted proof that it was legit.
/facepalm
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And soon we can all have the LTE
LTE Nexus 7 announced in middle of September 2013 in Japan.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/08/25/...utm_source=Feed_Classic&utm_campaign=Engadget
I just got my new nexus 7 up and going but I am wondering if the LTE roms are different then the Wi-Fi only and are we going to get our own forum if that is the case?
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I just got my new nexus 7 up and going but I am wondering if the LTE roms are different then the Wi-Fi only and are we going to get our own forum if that is the case?
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There's already a nexus 7 LTE subforum...
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There's already a nexus 7 LTE subforum...
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Pretty sure it wasn't when i posted
Glad to see it created.
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Pretty sure it wasn't when i posted
Glad to see it created.
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it was there. but there's not a ton going on so I'm not surprised when people miss it
Can't wait for roms :good:
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it was there. but there's not a ton going on so I'm not surprised when people miss it
Can't wait for roms :good:
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I had to "refresh" my tapatalk to see it :/
OK, but is it safe to install wi-fi roms on LTE device? There isn't much "to do" in the lte forum right now.
Dont think its a good idea to slap a non LTE rom on an LTE version....even if it ran i bet there would be issues. I haev an LTE version too and it sucks that there's not really anything out there but kernels for it but I made the worse mistake buying the wifi N7 last year so I couldnt do the same this time around. I'll just be patient at least I'm overclocked and rooted which can hold me over till roms release. Although all I would like is a stock rooted and deodexed rom for the LTE version.
Does anyone know if lollipop will come out for the Nexus 2013 LTE ?
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Does anyone know if lollipop will come out for the Nexus 2013 LTE ?
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Yes, but it'll take a little bit longer because of the radio. Expect to get the OTA around/just before the Nexus 9 LTE version becomes available.
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We're never going to receive the OTA. Throw your tablet away.
After Verizon takes its right of Prima Nocte. For the next three months.
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unofficial
Use unofficial roms, they are working pretty well.
This piece is claiming LTE/3G rollout beginning early December.
With all the issues haunting lollipop, it may be better to wait.
certification seems to be the issue
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This piece is claiming LTE/3G rollout beginning early December.
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I hope it is true
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