Is the battery dead/destroyed? - One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

My M8 has no feedback whatsoever, even plugged into the HTC brand charger, nothing happens. However, I plugged it into a 2.1A charger and got the little battery charging logo to appear, still no boot. Is the battery dead? This started happening after switching from CWM to TWRP, should I try to get the phone to turn on and switch it back to CWM?

Leave the phone on charger for several hours, then try holding power+vol up for 30 seconds or so. See if there is any change.

I'll definitely try it. It's not easy to charge this though, as the charging port is pretty broken as well. I put it in this angle and it charges (usually)
http://i.imgur.com/pBGIwBO.png

redpoint73 said:
Leave the phone on charger for several hours, then try holding power+vol up for 30 seconds or so. See if there is any change.
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I'll definitely try it. It's not easy to charge this though, as the charging port is pretty broken as well. I put it in this angle and it charges (usually)
http://i.imgur.com/pBGIwBO.png
EDIT: 0%. The phone can boot but I just turned it back off.
http://i.imgur.com/ePlLvgq.png

BFCE said:
I'll definitely try it. It's not easy to charge this though, as the charging port is pretty broken as well. I put it in this angle and it charges (usually)
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This a pretty relevant detail. Probably more the issue than changing to TWRP. And to answer that question, no I would not switch back to CWM, since its obsolete on this device and no longer really supported.

redpoint73 said:
This a pretty relevant detail. Probably more the issue than changing to TWRP. And to answer that question, no I would not switch back to CWM, since its obsolete on this device and no longer really supported.
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Okay so I've been charging it since my last post. I just turned it on and it claims to have 1%. But hey! It's on!

Thank you!! I changed out the cable I was using to charge the phone (I was using the stock HTC cable, grabbed some random Asus cable) and plugged the 2.1A charger directly into the wall (previously using an extension cable) and after doing what you said, just letting it charge for several hours and then turning it on, I got a 24% charge!!! I guess this means I can just never let the phone die if I don't feel like having this issue again. Thanks!! Now I have two high end android phones again!

BFCE said:
I changed out the cable I was using to charge the phone (I was using the stock HTC cable, grabbed some random Asus cable) and plugged the 2.1A charger directly into the wall (previously using an extension cable) and after doing what you said, just letting it charge for several hours and then turning it on, I got a 24% charge!!! I guess this means I can just never let the phone die if I don't feel like having this issue again.
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Good work! It should have been said before to always try different chargers and cords if suffering charging issues. I saw you had tried a different charger, but missed the fact that you used the same cable. Charger/cable are not always the issue, but at least you can easily eliminate those as the cause by some experimentation.
If you again discharge the phone to shutdown, and doesn't power on after charging; you can usually: charge for several hours, then hold power + vol up until it boots.
But that being said, discharging the phone to shutdown should usually be avoided. Most all of us have done it at some time or other. But one should not make it a habit. There are safeguards that are supposed to prevent battery voltage from dropping too low (by shutting down the phone once voltage reaches a certain threshold) but those safeguards are not ironclad. And once the voltage drops too low, you can be stuck in a tough spot. Plus, fully battery discharge/charge cycles are not best for long term battery life of Li ion batteries. So again, discharging the battery to shutdown should be avoided as much as possible.

I seem to have this exact issue now too. Even with the way the charging port has to be for it to charge. Unfortunately it seems the port is messed up somehow now or maybe the battery connections are bad.
Though I'm technically able to pull it apart i haven't done it yet. Maybe it knows it's now getting old lol
Looks like it's time to upgrade to a new phone for me. :/

shadowline said:
I seem to have this exact issue now too. Even with the way the charging port has to be for it to charge. Unfortunately it seems the port is messed up somehow now or maybe the battery connections are bad.
Though I'm technically able to pull it apart i haven't done it yet. Maybe it knows it's now getting old lol
Looks like it's time to upgrade to a new phone for me. :/
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Try putting it while pulling down and to the right of the cable. I held mine like that for an hour or two to make it turn on. Once I did so I opened ampere only to discover that even when it says it's charging, it's actually not. I have to angle it or the left to make it get power, even though just angling it upward makes it say it's charging.
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Yeah I've had it say charging on and off for the last day and a half. But it seems that when I hit the "sweet spot" it just doesn't stay charging and then quickly discharges any bit of charge.

shadowline said:
Yeah I've had it say charging on and off for the last day and a half. But it seems that when I hit the "sweet spot" it just doesn't stay charging and then quickly discharges any bit of charge.
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Happened to me too. Legit hold it in your hand for about 20 minutes. Turn it on as soon as possible to monitor the amperage
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[Q] Is my battery done for?

My phone ran completely dead earlier this evening and now I've run into a roadblock. I plugged it in to charge, and nothing. I thought my USB cord may have went bad on me so I tried another, no dice. I thought the charger might be bad so I tried a different one....nope. Needless to say I'm a bit worried my phone is bricked or something. I tried to power it into the recovery, but it is bone dead. I haven't flashed anything in a few weeks and this is a result of the battery simply dying.
I am leaving the battery out over night, hopefully solving the issue. What might be going on here? Could the battery be screwed?
When the battery dies completely, sometimes it won't charge or do anything for a while. This usually freaks people out, but by the next day it'll charge. Just leave it out, put it back in & try again. If that doesn't work, do it again. It might take a couple tries but it should eventually charge. I've never heard of it bricking a phone, though.
The only other possibility might be that the battery is fried. You can get replacement batteries pretty cheap on ebay.
plainjane said:
When the battery dies completely, sometimes it won't charge or do anything for a while. This usually freaks people out, but by the next day it'll charge. Just leave it out, put it back in & try again. If that doesn't work, do it again. It might take a couple tries but it should eventually charge. I've never heard of it bricking a phone, though.
The only other possibility might be that the battery is fried. You can get replacement batteries pretty cheap on ebay.
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Yeah I am hoping this is the case. The battery has never acted this particular way though. I'll leave it out overnight and check back in the morning.
Appreciate the response. Ease my mind a little haha.
michaelvibe said:
Yeah I am hoping this is the case. The battery has never acted this particular way though. I'll leave it out overnight and check back in the morning.
Appreciate the response. Ease my mind a little haha.
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You're battery is most likely toasted. Sometimes, as plainjane said, you'll get lucky and if you leave it plugged in long enough, it MAY start to charge. That's usually not the case though, and you'll probably need a new battery. LiPo batteries do not like to die completely, and when they do, it's possible (and likely) that it won't recieve a charge anymore. Sometimes you can get the battery to start charging again by using a direct wall charger, that your actual battery slides into on the wall (not in your phone). It has to do with the voltage of the battery dropping so low, that the software in the evo won't allow it to charge, for whatever reason. Just make sure that when you're trying to charge it, that it's plugged into the wall and not USB on your computer.
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You're battery is most likely toasted. Sometimes, as plainjane said, you'll get lucky and if you leave it plugged in long enough, it MAY start to charge. That's usually not the case though, and you'll probably need a new battery. LiPo batteries do not like to die completely, and when they do, it's possible (and likely) that it won't recieve a charge anymore. Sometimes you can get the battery to start charging again by using a direct wall charger, that your actual battery slides into on the wall (not in your phone). It has to do with the voltage of the battery dropping so low, that the software in the evo won't allow it to charge, for whatever reason. Just make sure that when you're trying to charge it, that it's plugged into the wall and not USB on your computer.
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or hopefully not the mini usb on your phone had that happen on my brothers phone good luck hope its just your cord
lcorona056248 said:
or hopefully not the mini usb on your phone had that happen on my brothers phone good luck hope its just your cord
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Yup, that seems to be somewhat of a common issue with certain Evo's. I always make sure to be extra easy on the USB cable, due to the Evo supposedly having weak solder joints where the USB connector attatches to the motherboard. But, if he said that he knows the battery died completely to 0, and then after that it won't turn back on, my money's on a failed battery.
ive had my batt since the phone came out no issues at all but ive seen the solder mess up peoples phone up alot with no charging, no usb connection and all that fun stuff just do what my brother did recall. all the older hardware do it eventually
Your battery is not fried.
If you're rather impatient, just drop it by a Sprint repair location and have them boost it on their cadex machine real fast. It'll trickle charge enough to turn the device on, then you can charge from there.
Well I left it out over night and all is well. I think I will pick up a new battery on ebay just in case. Meanwhile ill try to keep my battery from completely dying again haha. Thanks all.
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Not Charging After Full Drain. Not Turning On When Plugged In

So I'm having a problem where I drained my battery and the phone shut itself off with 1% to 2% battery life remaining. I've left it charging for a good 45 minutes now. Turned it on, and it reported 1%. Thinking that it was just a reporting error, I unplugged it, and the phone promptly shut itself off. Now another 30 minutes has passed, unplugged it, turned it on. The phone refuses to turn on! It will however show the battery charging animation, so I know it's not bricked or anything. I guess my only solution is to leave it charging while it's off overnight, even though I need to use my phone right now... That important person will have to wait :crying:
Edit: Works again... Though it does not show my battery life correctly. It says 15% when it's probably more like 2%.
Make sure it's plugged into a wall and not your computer.
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BMelz said:
Make sure it's plugged into a wall and not your computer.
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It was plugged in to the wall.
geokilla said:
It was plugged in to the wall.
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Might want to use a different cable.. i have read that the cable and possibly even the wall adapter can be flakey.. if you have a spare cable try to use it instead of the lg one..
Original LG cable is fine. It's ever since I drained the battery it's started to act weird. I plugged it in at 3% in hopes of "calibrating" the batterystats and it was charging fine. Up till now. I caught a glimpse of my phone turn itself off while charging.
Now it's randomly decided to turn itself on and bootloop... And back to charging animation while off we go. What the hell? The battery isn't charging... Switching cables didn't help btw.
Found a third cable. Temporarily working..
geokilla said:
Original LG cable is fine. It's ever since I drained the battery it's started to act weird. I plugged it in at 3% in hopes of "calibrating" the batterystats and it was charging fine. Up till now. I caught a glimpse of my phone turn itself off while charging.
Now it's randomly decided to turn itself on and bootloop... And back to charging animation while off we go. What the hell? The battery isn't charging... Switching cables didn't help btw.
Found a third cable. Temporarily working..
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Hmmm maybe the charger? Sounds to me like its not getting proper power hence the shutting down while plugged in.. but what do I know heh
I have the same problem. Plugged the phone in at about 3% and walked away. Came back an hour later to find it stuck in a loop of the LG logo and a black screen. I can sometimes get it into recovery, and from there see that the battery percentage will go from 0% to 15% and back to 0%. It's like the battery is bad.
I think it's a problem with the ROM/firmware where we can't drain it and hope to charge it up again..
I'm still running v1 of the jb release and last night I used my phone until it shut down at 2%, charged it up fine, and its been ok, knock on wood. One weird thing is that if I use the phone while on the charger, and I mean light tapatalk usage, the phone will drop to 99%, even while plugged in. Weird.
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I'm still running v1 of the jb release and last night I used my phone until it shut down at 2%, charged it up fine, and its been ok, knock on wood. One weird thing is that if I use the phone while on the charger, and I mean light tapatalk usage, the phone will drop to 99%, even while plugged in. Weird.
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That's normal. When the phone is charged at 100% it stop charging to avoid the battery to be overcharged thus reducing it's durability.
Not charging again... My phone maintained a charge between 10% and 25% or so according to the battery usage graph. So I switched cables again. I went into the service menu and got a screenshot of the charging test this time. First pic is with the LG cable. Second is with a Samsung cable. Third picture is back with LG cable after the battery successfully got charged past the "low battery zone" with the Samsung cable.
I have a similar problem with the stock charger. After a few weeks of working perfectly, it just sopped charging my Optimus G.
Bizarrely, it charges my wife's Galaxy S2 HD LTE without issues.
And the charger from my Sony-Ericsson Xperia pro charges the Optimus without issues.
It's almost like the stock charger burns out something internally such that it doesn't output enough voltage/amperage/current.
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So it happened again... But this time, it occurred in between 20% to 40% battery life while charging. It's probably the LG cable.. Gonna call support and ask for another.
geokilla said:
So it happened again... But this time, it occurred in between 20% to 40% battery life while charging. It's probably the LG cable.. Gonna call support and ask for another.
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I have a similar situation -- I powered down my phone one time at 5 %, did not wake up until one hour of charge, then last night tried again with about 40 % of battery left, same problem. I was wondering at first if the phone did not go to power down properly, and that the battery would drain through that, but then I just did another test with my battery at 30 %, and the phone did not want to restart until plugged in for 5 minutes.. It's almost as if the booting process is just this huge battery drain, sucking all the juice to start the phone in a peak of electrical rage.. anyway -- I noticed that yesterday, I was trying to restart the phone after a while, it would start to boot but it seemed it owuld just miss a little bit of juice to complete the process, then finally when it made it to screen it was at about 10 %..
Could it be that fix we used in the stock rom to get the screen at more than 65 %, and the cpu at 1512 mhz ? It seems more software related than hardware in my case, meaning I don't beleive it is the cable
Hate to revive an old thread, but as the new owner of an LGOG i just ran across this problem the other day. My phone has been able to go two day on a charge, and last week I forgot to charge it on night. Found it dead the next day. was leaving so I took it intending to charge at work or in the car. Car charger had no effect, but upper portion of phone got hot. plugged it in at home, same thing, charging icon, getting hot, but not charging. Also noted dim screen glow all the time.
tried 2o second hold on power button, vol up and down, got into the download screen and the bootloader screen, but no charge. Finally held the power button and vol. up and red charging light came on. Held it for a minute and the red charging light stayed on, let go out it went. Decided to try a couple of rubber bands around the phone to hold in the buttons, and it worked ---phone charged fully and operates as usual.
Thought I'd pass my experiance on to help anyone else with similar problem. Any idea why this worked?
I don't know, but I do know that getting to android 4.3 roms like the ones in Houstonn's thread have cured my O. G. from that, and from also constant and random camera reboot, and from also maps freaking out when plugged in in the car..
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For anybody that runs into this problem
I had this problem and tried for hours and hours to fix it. When you stick the usb charger into your phone, it literally takes like 5 hours to charge 2% when it's in this state
So it never gets to a point of wanting to turn on because the phone gets too hot trying to charge
My solution: Put a bunch of ice in a bowl, then put something over that like a bag, aluminum foil, basically anything that would be a barrier between the ice and your phone to keep it from getting wet
Now let it charge with the phone sitting on top of that ice for a few hours(make sure to add new ice as it melts) and your phone will charge up enough that it can be fully turned on. Then just let it keep charging
This worked for me after trying other things for hours. If this didn't work i was gonna open the phone and pull the battery
After the last update I have not had this issue. I've run my phone dead a few times and now it always charges - no issue.
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I had this problem and tried for hours and hours to fix it. When you stick the usb charger into your phone, it literally takes like 5 hours to charge 2% when it's in this state
So it never gets to a point of wanting to turn on because the phone gets too hot trying to charge
My solution: Put a bunch of ice in a bowl, then put something over that like a bag, aluminum foil, basically anything that would be a barrier between the ice and your phone to keep it from getting wet
Now let it charge with the phone sitting on top of that ice for a few hours(make sure to add new ice as it melts) and your phone will charge up enough that it can be fully turned on. Then just let it keep charging
This worked for me after trying other things for hours. If this didn't work i was gonna open the phone and pull the battery
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matt832 said:
After the last update I have not had this issue. I've run my phone dead a few times and now it always charges - no issue.
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What update are you referring to? I don't get over the air updates. Mine is off contract.
philliboy said:
What update are you referring to? I don't get over the air updates. Mine is off contract.
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Last fall. I had to go to the stock rom, do the update, reroot, then all was fine.

[Q] "Helpful" battery full notification

Anyone know how to permanently get rid of this? I used G3 Tweak Box but that just removed the notification in the pull-down. It still vibrates irregularly if you use the phone while it's plugged in as the voltage level climbs and falls. PLEASE for the love of FSM let's get rid of this!
Unplug charger. It gone
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Unplug charger. It gone
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... that's not a fix. It's not even a workaround.
Any other ideas?
Try removing g3 tweak box and exposed then see if it does it. My phone does not. Asked a few other guys and they don't have this issue
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Try removing g3 tweak box and exposed then see if it does it. My phone does not. Asked a few other guys and they don't have this issue
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It's not Tweks Box or xposed, this stupid notification is a LG feature and there's no way to turn it off. Yet.
JustLok said:
It's not Tweks Box or xposed, this stupid notification is a LG feature and there's no way to turn it off. Yet.
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Could be bad hardware cause mine don't vibrate like his. Also xposed does phone to act stupid. Not for everyone but it does.
Its probably because the phone starts charging again when it hits the 99% mark (or close to 99%) then tells you its at 100 again. This phone doesn't have a pass through for power. If your phone is on its using battery even if its plugged in.
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Its probably because the phone starts charging again when it hits the 99% mark (or close to 99%) then tells you its at 100 again. This phone doesn't have a pass through for power. If your phone is on its using battery even if its plugged in.
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Damn I charge mine and when I use Pandora plugged in it never drops below 100%. Hmmmm that is weird
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Damn I charge mine and when I use Pandora plugged in it never drops below 100%. Hmmmm that is weird
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Different batteries but it could be my phone thats broke. All I know is this is the first phone I have owned that I can't remove my battery even though its plugged in.
There's been several of these same threads about the persistent battery notification in this forum as well as the general G3 forum, it's not Xposed or faulty phones. What it seems to be is the charger that's being used, most notably if it's not the OEM charger.
Some are saying it's the battery/phone dropping from 100% to 99%, then charging back to 100% and gives the notification. Others are saying it's just saying you're at 100% and flashing it once a minute or so to remind you.
I'm wondering if it's the charger, as when I'm home and it's plugged in on my old Note 3 2amp charger, I don't get that notification during the night when I'm sleeping.
But, when I'm at work and I'm using my Samsung 1amp cube charger, it keeps displaying and sounding that stupid battery full, unplug to save energy notification over and over.
It could be as ThePagel said, the phone is not getting the full power it needs from the charger, so the battery drops to 99% and charges back up to 100%, display notification, rinse and repeat.
That's why I'm assuming it might be the chargers perhaps.
Could be why I don't have this issue. Both my chargers are 2 amps or higher
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There's been several of these same threads about the persistent battery notification in this forum as well as the general G3 forum, it's not Xposed or faulty phones. What it seems to be is the charger that's being used, most notably if it's not the OEM charger.
Some are saying it's the battery/phone dropping from 100% to 99%, then charging back to 100% and gives the notification. Others are saying it's just saying you're at 100% and flashing it once a minute or so to remind you.
I'm wondering if it's the charger, as when I'm home and it's plugged in on my old Note 3 2amp charger, I don't get that notification during the night when I'm sleeping.
But, when I'm at work and I'm using my Samsung 1amp cube charger, it keeps displaying and sounding that stupid battery full, unplug to save energy notification over and over.
It could be as ThePagel said, the phone is not getting the full power it needs from the charger, so the battery drops to 99% and charges back up to 100%, display notification, rinse and repeat.
That's why I'm assuming it might be the chargers perhaps.
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This describes the problem perfectly. The charger I am using is a 2.1A charger, though, so I don't understand why it keeps doing that. I also don't understand how it could possibly be using enough power to actually discharge the battery down from 100% to 99% WHILE being charged even from a 1A charger. How much freaking juice does this thing need to use?!
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Different batteries but it could be my phone thats broke. All I know is this is the first phone I have owned that I can't remove my battery even though its plugged in.
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My Galaxy Note II was like this too, so was my Nexus One and my T-Mobile G2 (HTC Vision). This isn't a strange phenomenon AFAIK.
starkruzr said:
This describes the problem perfectly. The charger I am using is a 2.1A charger, though, so I don't understand why it keeps doing that. I also don't understand how it could possibly be using enough power to actually discharge the battery down from 100% to 99% WHILE being charged even from a 1A charger. How much freaking juice does this thing need to use?!
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What charger are you using?
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What charger are you using?
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I just checked it; it's actually a 2.4A and it's designed to be able to charge two devices at the same time. It's a PowerGen HLPG-001-12W. http://www.ebay.com/itm/PowerGen-Bl...S_Cell_Phone_PDA_Chargers&hash=item46234c30b0 Mine is white, but it's the same one.
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Could be bad hardware cause mine don't vibrate like his. Also xposed does phone to act stupid. Not for everyone but it does.
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I'm not trying to to bad mouth xposed or anything it is really cool but it seems like everything I ever tried to do with xposed is buggy. It really is to bad that most roms depend on it so much now a day's. I miss the hard framework modifications that worked perfect unless the developer made a mistake. But I do understand it can take a long time to add some of the stuff xposed gives for example reboot options. Sorry I just realized I went way off subject lol.
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I just checked it; it's actually a 2.4A and it's designed to be able to charge two devices at the same time. It's a PowerGen HLPG-001-12W. http://www.ebay.com/itm/PowerGen-Bl...S_Cell_Phone_PDA_Chargers&hash=item46234c30b0 Mine is white, but it's the same one.
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That might be the issue. It might be 2.4 all together but 1.2 per port. I have the note 3 which is 2 amp and the lg one also 2.1. My car has 2 port but it is 4.3 amp so it could do 2.1 per port. That be why I don't have that issue. Try the lg plug and see if it same thing.
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That might be the issue. It might be 2.4 all together but 1.2 per port. I have the note 3 which is 2 amp and the lg one also 2.1. My car has 2 port but it is 4.3 amp so it could do 2.1 per port. That be why I don't have that issue. Try the lg plug and see if it same thing.
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I'm now remembering that the LG charger is the one on my nighttable at home and it definitely has the same issue on that one.
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I'm now remembering that the LG charger is the one on my nighttable at home and it definitely has the same issue on that one.
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Just found an old blackberry USB charger. Holy cow that's old lol. It is .9 amps. I been using my phone and it keep dropping back and fourth. I really dunno what to tell you bro. When I use normal amp stuff I am OK when I use low amp I get what you get. Maybe the new kernel that came out will help you out.

Cant charge now....

Got down to around 15% and then plugged in. Noticed level continued to drop. Opened battery page and see this:
Plugged in, Can't charge now.
Did a restart and same thing. If I flip the USB connector 180degrees, it charges. Swapped ends with the wall part of charger. Same thing....only charges with one side of usbb cable pointed up.
What up?
akenis said:
Got down to around 15% and then plugged in. Noticed level continued to drop. Opened battery page and see this:
Plugged in, Can't charge now.
Did a restart and same thing. If I flip the USB connector 180degrees, it charges. Swapped ends with the wall part of charger. Same thing....only charges with one side of usbb cable pointed up.
What up?
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Sounds like a bad port, or cable. If another charger or cable doesn't work, RMA that puppy. Of course, Google support will tell you to do a factory reset first. So be ready ?
Badger50 said:
Sounds like a bad port, or cable. If another charger or cable doesn't work, RMA that puppy. Of course, Google support will tell you to do a factory reset first. So be ready ?
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On 30 minute hold now.
Flipping the end on the wall doesn't matter. Flipping the cable around doesn't matter. Whichever end is plugged into the phone only works on one side. Weird....I thought they were the same.
No spare USB C cables. May be able to test with an A to C in a few minutes...
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Mine was taking 8 hours to charge. Wouldn't charge if on, just couldn't keep up. Rma'd it. Told the guy I'd already tried the usual stuff. He said ok and authorized a new one. Took like 3 minutes.
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Mine was taking 8 hours to charge. Wouldn't charge if on, just couldn't keep up. Rma'd it. Told the guy I'd already tried the usual stuff. He said ok and authorized a new one. Took like 3 minutes.
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But did you have a "can't charge right now" message showing up? I've never seen that.
Troubleshooting per Google...
Tried full off instead of restart
Tried safe mode
Same behavior.
I have tested with factory A to C cable and iPad brick.
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Troubleshooting per Google...
Tried full off instead of restart
Tried safe mode
Same behavior.
I have tested with A to C cable and iPad brick.
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Send it back bruh! :good:
.. previous post truncated. Copy paste always does that in xda app?
I have tested with factory A to C cable and iPad brick. Seems to work fine either way I flip the cable. But I do notice the above msg for a half second when first plugging in, then switches to charging.
With my stock charger, phone does the same with one orientation (brief msg and then charging)....but NOT fast charging.
With the other C cable orientation, it cycles several times between not connected at all and then stays on msg above.
All for now.
Would like to test with a different USB C cables....but not available now.
Is it normal when plugging in, to momentarily flash that can't charging msg? Never noticed it before, but wasn't looking
I was wrong about charging rapidly. On the lock screen, using the orientation that works, it does show charging rapidly.
BUT Ampere app (which measures charging current) only registers about 1mA.
Thanks
akenis said:
Would like to test with a different USB C cables....but not available now.
Is it normal when plugging in, to momentarily flash that can't charging msg? Never noticed it before, but wasn't looking
I was wrong about charging rapidly. On the lock screen, using the orientation that works, it does show charging rapidly.
BUT Ampere app (which measures charging current) only registers about 1mA.
Thanks
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1) Yes you're right. It does momentarily flash "can't charge right now" for me. Literally a split second flash. Wouldn't see it unless you were looking for it.
2) You really can't trust apps for measuring charging current. It's especially inaccurate when the screen is off which you need to do to check it. If anything, it would close to accurate if you had your screen off for 5-10 minutes then checked it quickly before it throttles the charging down. Only way for an accurate measurement is a is a power meter like this:
Satechi USB-C Power Meter Tester Multimeter for New Macbook, Macbook Pro, Test Speed of Chargers, Cables, External Battery Capacity
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MT8MC3N/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_lHKSAbZQA28XS
EeZeEpEe said:
1) Yes you're right. It does momentarily flash "can't charge right now" for me. Literally a split second flash. Wouldn't see it unless you were looking for it.
2) You really can't trust apps for measuring charging current. It's especially inaccurate when the screen is off which you need to do to check it. If anything, it would close to accurate if you had your screen off for 5-10 minutes then checked it quickly before it throttles the charging down. Only way for an accurate measurement is a is a power meter like this:
Satechi USB-C Power Meter Tester Multimeter for New Macbook, Macbook Pro, Test Speed of Chargers, Cables, External Battery Capacity
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MT8MC3N/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_lHKSAbZQA28XS
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Thanks....
True, charging current with Ampere is less than accurate with screen on. Accubattery however will calculate charging with screen off. Would be interesting to see how that compares to the USB meter.
Was able to test another brick/C to C cable combination and it worked fine both ways. My cable worked in 3rd party brick. Using my brick and either cable, it will only charge in one direction.
So I guess my brick is bricked.... will ask G for replacement.
Well the sent a new brick. By the time I got it, things seemed to be working ok for a while.
But last night my phone was charging next to my bed. Middle of the night I noticed it was on. I grabbed it and unplugged the USB C. The cable connector was extremely hot. Didn't think much of it.
Now, near end of day, I try to charge again. Won't charge. Turned ohone off and tried to charge. Plug gets way hot, but no charging indication.
Back to Google support.
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@akenis Did you ever sort this out?
I'm having the *EXACT* behavior, but on a OP6, the same "plugged in, can't charge right now" message.
If I reboot, I get one charge (still with the brief flash message "...can't charge") and then it charges, until I unplug it. Once unplugged it won't charge again, until rebooted.
Same charge-source/cables/Qi receiver that my OP5T had, and my wife now does, zero issues on it (the Qi pad is my main charge source, typical is about 500-700ma, do-able, for me). Re-tested the 5T on a couple of the cable/charger combos, absolutely no issues, it charges every time.
If I use their Dash charger (which I rarely do, because my Qi receiver is stuck on the back, under a case), it gets around this, but it's not a great solution for me; I only have one of them, and we have Qi chargers "everywhere", it seems ;-]
I had a 6P prior, my mea culpa for posting on a Pixel thread, with OP repro instance. I do think these are both s/w related, and probably related to some kernel issue, that's persisting in Oreo builds. I bet if I were really motivated, I could find this in several other brand devices, in various other forums...
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@akenis Did you ever sort this out?
I'm having the *EXACT* behavior, but on a OP6, the same "plugged in, can't charge right now" message.
If I reboot, I get one charge (still with the brief flash message "...can't charge") and then it charges, until I unplug it. Once unplugged it won't charge again, until rebooted.
Same charge-source/cables/Qi receiver that my OP5T had, and my wife now does, zero issues on it (the Qi pad is my main charge source, typical is about 500-700ma, do-able, for me). Re-tested the 5T on a couple of the cable/charger combos, absolutely no issues, it charges every time.
If I use their Dash charger (which I rarely do, because my Qi receiver is stuck on the back, under a case), it gets around this, but it's not a great solution for me; I only have one of them, and we have Qi chargers "everywhere", it seems ;-]
I had a 6P prior, my mea culpa for posting on a Pixel thread, with OP repro instance. I do think these are both s/w related, and probably related to some kernel issue, that's persisting in Oreo builds. I bet if I were really motivated, I could find this in several other brand devices, in various other forums...
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I think it was hardware. On my 3rd 2XL. 1st one ended up smoking at us port. The replacement wouldn't route audio through us port.

General Pixel Stand 2 stops charging

This started happening a couple of weeks ago, prior to the latest update.
When I put my P6P on the Stand 2 at the end of the day, I get the little sound and animation that it started charging. After a few seconds I see the message at the bottom that it's "charging wirelessly" and a time until full. I have the stand set on Max Charging and adaptive charging turned off. After a minute or two, the fan comes on. About 10-15 minutes later, it stops charging, (the message goes away and the current % is shown), and the phone is really hot. No matter how long I leave it, even overnight, it never starts charging again. The phone remains really hot until I remove it from the stand.
About 50% of the time, if I reboot it, it will behave normally again, but last night nothing I did would get it to charge wirelessly. I ended up plugging it into the wire. It never gets warm when charging on the wire.
It has been working fine since I purchased it in Nov. This just started a few weeks ago. Has anyone else seen this?
Dave
Try cable charging.
Charging will disengage if the battery temperature gets too hot, about >103F
Fast charging may disengage if the temperature gets beyond 95-100F.
Ideal charging battery start temp is 82F.
Erratic charging can indicate a failed battery.
Any swelling is a failure, replace asap if so.
blackhawk said:
Try cable charging.
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As indicated in my OP, cable charging works fine every time. The phone doesn't even get warm. It's only wireless charging that's an issue, and not every time I try to charge it wirelesly. It's like the phone decides to stop accepting the power, and it starts to heat up because of it.
I take it you don't have a second wireless stand to rule out if it's the phone or your STand 2 that's behaving badly?
I have been using a genric set-up from charger to stand with my P6P and did have charging issues a few months ago with wireless charging not working correctly but the May update fixed it.
Dataman100 said:
As indicated in my OP, cable charging works fine every time. The phone doesn't even get warm. It's only wireless charging that's an issue, and not every time I try to charge it wirelesly. It's like the phone decides to stop accepting the power, and it starts to heat up because of it.
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May be a hardware failure in the phone or stand.
Remove a case if it has one and try.
C ports generally last for thousands of charge cycles and cable charging is better for the battery, produces less heat.
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I take it you don't have a second wireless stand to rule out if it's the phone or your STand 2 that's behaving badly?
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No, unfortunately I only have one stand. I'll keep trying things to see if I can narrow down the exact situation when it occurs. I was mainly checking to see if anyone else had something similar happen and there was a quick fix.
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C ports generally last for thousands of charge cycles and cable charging is better for the battery, produces less heat.
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Yeah, and I've always used cable charging on all my phones in the past with no issues. I thought the stand was cool in that it could fast charge and keep the phone upright so it's easy to read in the middle of the night. I'd really like to keep using it. It was stupid expensive and I'd hate to let it go unused for that price.
Thanks!
Dave
I've been experiencing similar problems with my Stand. Sometimes it charges normally, sometimes it charges REALLY, and I mean really slow... And sometimes I get the "Not charging" message for whatever reason.
I think it's gotta be an issue with the adaptive charging on the Pixel 6 Pro, because every time I put my other phone on the stand, my S21U, it charges without any issues.
Dataman100 said:
Yeah, and I've always used cable charging on all my phones in the past with no issues. I thought the stand was cool in that it could fast charge and keep the phone upright so it's easy to read in the middle of the night. I'd really like to keep using it. It was stupid expensive and I'd hate to let it go unused for that price.
Thanks!
Dave
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Yeah, I feel you. It could be firmware, a SEU which are rare but do happen. A reflash would fix it if so. Probably not worth the trouble to try and more likely to be hardware.
Cable charging be the best plan for now I think.
The old micro connectors were horrible and invariably would fail. The C connectors are much more robust. This N10+ is heavily used and the C port jack is still tight and has well over a thousand cycles plus a few drops and pulls. Even the original cable is still AOK.
Just came across this thread while looking for similar problems on my P4 with a 1st Gen stand. The phone showed the normal 'xx% charging wirelessly' display then at 79% it changed to simply '79%'. After a while the message went back to 'xx%charging wirelessly'. I took the phone off the charger and using a utility app called 'inware' I looked at the battery temp which was at 41.5C/106F.
So I'm guessing that the phone will stop charging when the battery gets hot and resume when it cools down a bit. What is 'too hot' and when does it cause damage, I have no idea. Google told me in a chat session the other day that it's perfectly acceptable to leave the phone on the stand all day. Personally, I take it off at about 80% charge which lasts me all day.
Mine also has this behaviour, taking it off and placing it back on continues to charge
I just sent my stand back for similar reasons - not good when a $12 Qi charger from Amazon was doing a better (and faster!) job charging.
I sent mine back too & am now using a charger that I bought at IKEA for £5. It's a shame as I thought that Google would have made more effort to integrate the charger & phone. Oh well, bling gone!

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