Are there any alternative OSs available? - G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello, I was wondering if someone was working to port Sailfish OS or Firefox OS and such? It would be nice to have alternatives to Android !

Unfortunately not. Development as you can see is pretty low. LG is not the best on being open to dev.

youngchaos said:
Unfortunately not. Development as you can see is pretty low. LG is not the best on being open to dev.
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Don't they leave the source for the hardware? What do you mean they aren't open to devs?

It's meant, that LG is a bit like Samsung of keeping required sourcecode. Also I have to confess, LG did a pretty nice job & the OS is better than many other "soups" from manufacturers. Also we have one of the most famous coders here: @codeworkx doing awesome stuff with CM13. But: He also has a life and so, development of AOSP-ROMs may take a bit time. But they will come, since the G4 is one of the most popular phones out & Samsung really did a bad job with their latest phones .

nar001 said:
Don't they leave the source for the hardware? What do you mean they aren't open to devs?
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Boot loader is locked for about 90% of the so its not very development friendly. This is what hes saying.
Sent from my LG-H815 running CM13

Yeah and camera , most powerful thing about our device, is source-closed. So meh...

Related

CyanogenMod, Paranoid Android, or any other ROMs?

Would Cyanogen Mod be interested in developing for this phone now that we have unlocked bootloader? Given the choice, I'd love Paranoid Android, but I went hold my breath.
CM is already in development . https://github.com/CM-zenfone2
BrokenROM https://github.com/BrokenROM/device_asus_moorefield
Seems that are only for ZE551ML I hope that will be compatible with ZE550ML
If someone can get pure AOSP or CM working, the ROMs will flow out like water... once a base is established building many ROMs is easy. If we get CM, then look for ROMs like Beanstalk, BlissPop, Carbon, , etc. to follow closely behind. Patience, it will happen...
MatteXperiaU said:
CM is already in development . https://github.com/CM-zenfone2
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Yay! I really hope Paranoid Android follows suit. I LOVE Pa's Halo feature.
custom roms will help this phone.zenny 2 has one of the worst stock firmware optimization ever and seems like asus cant fix the problems.
Be patient guys, I just sent a couple developers phones this week.
Tuanies said:
Be patient guys, I just sent a couple developers phones this week.
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Cool! I see lots of potential ROM development for this phone!
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Tuanies said:
Be patient guys, I just sent a couple developers phones this week.
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Good to see Asus is showing commitment to this phone. Also great to see you guys are embracing the aftermarket ROM community. More vendors need to be supportive like this.
We love the enthusiast community - you guys are the ones that like to tinker and have contributed to our growth over the years when we were just a motherboard vendor. I bet many of you still have fond memories of building PCs with our components before tinkering with phones .
Tuanies said:
Be patient guys, I just sent a couple developers phones this week.
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Awesome! Is there/will there be collaboration with the developers regarding the kernel and device tree from ASUS as well? That would be key to have a fully-working custom ROM in the nearer future (versus the developers having to learn from scratch and sort of fend for themselves, kludging their way along and delaying the end goal).
So exciting!
We post our kernel source, but that's all we can offer, unfortunately. Our software development is done at our Taiwan HQ. But if any devs need anything, just send me a PM and I'll ask our software team.
Tuanies said:
We love the enthusiast community - you guys are the ones that like to tinker and have contributed to our growth over the years when we were just a motherboard vendor. I bet many of you still have fond memories of building PCs with our components before tinkering with phones .
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Tuanies said:
We post our kernel source, but that's all we can offer, unfortunately. Our software development is done at our Taiwan HQ. But if any devs need anything, just send me a PM and I'll ask our software team.
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Just got one single request... Open an official outlet or distributer in Pakistan... I am buying your items off international vendors without warranties... Would love to see if I can get some support locally...
Tuanies said:
We post our kernel source, but that's all we can offer, unfortunately. Our software development is done at our Taiwan HQ. But if any devs need anything, just send me a PM and I'll ask our software team.
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CC: @TheSSJ, @shakalaca, @jrior001, @crpalmer, @sorg, @Harfainx, @vampirefo and other zf2 developers.. :victory:
Tuanies said:
Be patient guys, I just sent a couple developers phones this week.
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This makes not much sense to me honestly. Why locking a bootloader in the first place and then stating to push development hard by providing test phones to specified devs?
But still I want to thank you for your commitment in making this phone a huge success - we'll kick Galaxy and Xperia and the likes out once done
Good thing to see Asus sharing to make custom ROMs efficient.
Already on Harfainx's ROM, can't wait to see things going even further.
SBFarooq said:
Just got one single request... Open an official outlet or distributer in Pakistan... I am buying your items off international vendors without warranties... Would love to see if I can get some support locally...
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Unfortunately in only responsible for North America and have no say for any other regions.
TheSSJ said:
This makes not much sense to me honestly. Why locking a bootloader in the first place and then stating to push development hard by providing test phones to specified devs?
But still I want to thank you for your commitment in making this phone a huge success - we'll kick Galaxy and Xperia and the likes out once done
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This is my push from Technical Marketing for North America due to needs and wants for the US market. I place great emphasis on the community that has made many of the previous phones I've owned so great. I want that for the ZF2.
I'll probably start development for this phone once i get it. Never worked with an x86 android device before but it sounds like a fun challenge
Tuanies said:
This is my push from Technical Marketing for North America due to needs and wants for the US market. I place great emphasis on the community that has made many of the previous phones I've owned so great. I want that for the ZF2.
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Hi,
I've got some sort of situation here concerning building the kernel for ZF2 on my own. I downloaded the kernel source from ASUS website and followed the instructions one by one (download the android source code, use the appropriate toolchain, issue the kernel build command using fhd_defconfig, etc.
The phone boots and works good, BUT:
The phone never gets to deep sleep mode because of hsic_s3_wlock (kernel wakelock from USB HSIC). Could you please ask someone from the technical department to check what is causing this or if any config entry is missing? I am really starting to doubt that this is something I can influence at all

Request a CyanogenMod for our Lenovo Z2 Plus aka Zuk Z2

Request a CyanogenMod for Z2 here, on their official device request page! If we've got that threat enough with requests any CM dev might take notice of that and start building!
Link : https://forum.cyanogenmod.org/topic/129472-rquest-for-lenovo-zuk-z2/#comment-611014
I recently shifted from the great XDA beloved OnePlus One and I'm shocked by the lack of the development with Z2, the device is awesome, in terms of specs and it shoud deserve more XDA love!
CM ROMs available in Chinese forums
There are CM ROMs available in official Chinese forum (bbs.zuk.cn)
CM13: bbs.zuk.cn/z2/t135170/
Download: pan.baidu.com/s/1qYlKh5a Verification Code: kd5f
CM14: bbs.zuk.cn/z2/t176429/
Download: pan.baidu.com/s/1skYQSm5 Verification Code: e95q
Google Translate may help you understand what they say.
The Baidu NetDrive would require a code as provided above when you access the file.
The ROMs are unofficial versions but they work fine.
Four promotional software exist in the ROM.
/system/app/NewBrowser
/system/app/AppCenter
/system/app/Movie2345
/system/app/Weather2345
The removal of these injected apps is recommended before use.
WhatsApp Group
We have started a WhatsApp Group for all Z2 plus owners. If you are interested kindly WhatsApp me on 9999388558
Ateesh23 said:
We have started a WhatsApp Group for all Z2 plus owners. If you are interested kindly WhatsApp me on 9999388558
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Can you post the invite link for that group here?
WhatsApp Group for Z2 plus
https://chat.whatsapp.com/CV0oFDugpsLBfxy4zLLhnF
Explorer said:
Request a CyanogenMod for Z2 here, on their official device request page! If we've got that threat enough with requests any CM dev might take notice of that and start building!
Link : https://forum.cyanogenmod.org/topic/129472-rquest-for-lenovo-zuk-z2/#comment-611014
I recently shifted from the great XDA beloved OnePlus One and I'm shocked by the lack of the development with Z2, the device is awesome, in terms of specs and it shoud deserve more XDA love!
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I own a OnePlus One and i was thinking about buy it as well but for a familiar, not for me and It's clearly that this device is far away from the OPO development, and it surprised me because it's a great device.
Just curious, and sorry for the little off-topic: how is it in terms of performance, camera and screen compared to the OPO?
Do you know if there are any update about this? I'm thinking about buy it if we can get official CM14.1 builds in some near future.
Basically I'm interested in buying it only if there are a fully functional custom rom like CM, slim or omni.
mustang_ssc said:
I own a OnePlus One and i was thinking about buy it as well but for a familiar, not for me and It's clearly that this device is far away from the OPO development, and it surprised me because it's a great device.
Just curious, and sorry for the little off-topic: how is it in terms of performance, camera and screen compared to the OPO?
Do you know if there are any update about this? I'm thinking about buy it if we can get official CM14.1 builds in some near future.
Basically I'm interested in buying it only if there are a fully functional custom rom like CM, slim or omni.
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I've also been keeping tabs on the device. Check www.zukfans.eu for an overview of available roms and a more active device forum.
antimatter.web said:
I've also been keeping tabs on the device. Check www.zukfans.eu for an overview of available roms and a more active device forum.
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Yeah i saw that at least in that forum there is much more activity, but even with that the development is not as good as i would like to see. Maybe I'm quite exigent with this but i think this device has a really good potential since his source code was published some few months ago and i don't see big results for now.
For example, the only official builds from a recognized development group i saw was from Mokee. That doesn't need to mean the development is bad but also I'm seeing some people complaining about some minor issues in unofficial builds like CM13.
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Yeah i saw that at least in that forum there is much more activity, but even with that the development is not as good as i would like to see. Maybe I'm quite exigent with this but i think this device has a really good potential since his source code was published some few months ago and i don't see big results for now.
For example, the only official builds from a recognized development group i saw was from Mokee. That doesn't need to mean the development is bad but also I'm seeing some people complaining about some minor issues in unofficial builds like CM13.
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I see what you mean though don't agree with. If you talk of chinese cm13 then yes.
Just take the latest release from fedor and you'll be good. I am myself crafting a rom from the different guys release.
Right now hardcore devs (meaning doing that full time) are on cm14.1 port, which is already running but having some issues.
CM 13 is mostly stable, in the coming weeks you should have some even better releases coming out.

Android 8 - ROM release

Do you know when we can expect a ROM based on Android O?
Can't say for sure. May never see an official release from Nextbit/Razer, but I'm sure custom rom devs will release it when it's ready.
davehasninjas said:
Can't say for sure. May never see an official release from Nextbit/Razer, but I'm sure custom rom devs will release it when it's ready.
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Didn't Nextbit or Razer hire the devs from Paranoid Android? If they are working on the Robin ROM, I'm pretty sure it's safe to say we'll get Oreo. However Razer announced a gaming phone a while ago, so there is no way to tell.
Baconator724 said:
Didn't Nextbit or Razer hire the devs from Paranoid Android? If they are working on the Robin ROM, I'm pretty sure it's safe to say we'll get Oreo. However Razer announced a gaming phone a while ago, so there is no way to tell.
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One of the Developer's for PA is also one of the 30 teams members of nextbit.
There are quite a few links like these which mention Lineage OS 15 (Oreo) supported devices and robin is one of them! I cant wait for the release!
http://www.lineageosdownloads.com/lineage-os-15-supported-device-list/
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There are quite a few links like these which mention Lineage OS 15 (Oreo) supported devices and robin is one of them! I cant wait for the release!
http://www.lineageosdownloads.com/lineage-os-15-supported-device-list/
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Except those are all fake. The LOS maintainers won't actually know if a device will support LOS 15 until they actually try porting it in the first place. As of now, they haven't tried for the Nextbit Robin yet, so we don't know if the Robin could actually get LOS 15 yet.
If you wanna keep tabs on what devices are currently being worked on, go to https://review.lineageos.org/#/q/statuspen and look for anything being commited to the lineageos-15.0 branch for android_device_nextbit_ether.
Software updates till February as they say on Twitter. Apart from nextbits cloud framework the OS is pretty much stock AOSP and it seems to me they're really good with releasing kernel source and providing updates almost every three months.
Robin, on N, is a mess. If it does eventually get O, it will be a while. We cannot upgrade it to O until we fix out the bugs we have on N first.
What are the bugs on N? I'm thinking about buying one. Is it worth it?
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What are the bugs on N? I'm thinking about buying one. Is it worth it?
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Camera, GPS, battery blah the list goes on. The kernels a mess because of bad sources. I wouldnt recommend it , it would be better getting a moto G device or similar at this stage.
DarkExistence said:
Camera, GPS, battery blah the list goes on. The kernels a mess because of bad sources. I wouldnt recommend it , it would be better getting a moto G device or similar at this stage.
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I have two devices, and I don't have troubles with it.
HeaDekBatHblu said:
I have two devices, and I don't have troubles with it.
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Doesn't make a difference, the code base is a mess. If your buying for a Dev device, dont. Even the top lineage Devs are struggling to make it as stable as it is (and it's not very stable, messy as hell!) As an every day device it's ok but there are better phones now a days in the price range, and support is basically dead for robin now.
DarkExistence said:
Doesn't make a difference, the code base is a mess. If your buying for a Dev device, dont. Even the top lineage Devs are struggling to make it as stable as it is (and it's not very stable, messy as hell!) As an every day device it's ok but there are better phones now a days in the price range, and support is basically dead for robin now.
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Development is not dead at all. Have you seen Gerrit for many of the ROMs??? The CarbonROM Dev already has pushes to Gerrit for O. Lineage still gets device specific changes. ParanoidAndroid has a private kernel source for ether so their working on it behind the scenes. AICP and many other ROMs use the Lineage kernel, so there aren't many differences to those that use that kernel. O development is still ongoing, and this device is still great for the price. The ROMs at the moment, are very stable in my opinion.
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Development is not dead at all. Have you seen Gerrit for many of the ROMs??? The CarbonROM Dev already has pushes to Gerrit for O. Lineage still gets device specific changes. ParanoidAndroid has a private kernel source for ether so their working on it behind the scenes. AICP and many other ROMs use the Lineage kernel, so there aren't many differences to those that use that kernel. O development is still ongoing, and this device is still great for the price. The ROMs at the moment, are very stable in my opinion.
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I know, I'm the AICP maintainer for ether lol... And discuss with the official lineage maintainers for ether daily ..
I meant official development, btw, meaning a lot of the bugs won't be fixed because we need official updates to be able to fix them.
O development for lineage ether hasn't even begun yet, N bugs need to be fixed before O begins, and that will take awhile.
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I know, I'm the AICP maintainer for ether lol... And discuss with the official lineage maintainers for ether daily ..
I meant official development, btw, meaning a lot of the bugs won't be fixed because we need official updates to be able to fix them.
O development for lineage ether hasn't even begun yet, N bugs need to be fixed before O begins, and that will take awhile.
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My apologies if I seemed aggressive. Official development seems to be like any other manufacturer, however, as we all know, software support is ending soon. I've been following Gerrit and have noticed the ongoing development by our developers (including you). IIRC camera was borked on one of the nightlies, but was immediately fixed. IMO, we are now depending on development from our ether devs rather than official support since Nextbit have been ghosting for the past few months.
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What are the bugs on N? I'm thinking about buying one. Is it worth it?
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Keep in mind what DarkExistence said, and realize the Robin's closest equivalent is a Nexus 5. If you can get better & newer hardware for a little more money, do so. I got mine as an "emergency" replacement when I was short on funds a few months ago. I lucked into an eBay sale & discount code which brought the phone to about 100.00. I'm happy with it, but I wish Razer would have made good sources available & gave full permission for them to be hosted elsewhere. So the devs didn't get so frustrated with what should be a decent phone to run custom ROMs on.
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So how us the Robin treating you. Did you root? ARE you using any ROMs
oh1blksheep said:
What are the bugs on N? I'm thinking about buying one. Is it worth it?
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Yes, for $130 it's worth buying. The bugs on android N are not nearly as bad as what some claim them to be.
Here's as list of what I can recall:
1. Enhance colors distorts colors (so turn it off)
2. Screen static displays when unlocking phone for 1/10th of a second with some roms
3. You can hear The Speakers turn off after sound has stopped playing if You listen closely
4. Headphones with a mic sometimes cut out and play through internal Speakers although there is as work around for this
5. Audio fx does not work
Other than any of those there is not much i can personally complain about and I own 2 robins. About to get a moto g4 plus because it's time for something that has a larger XDA fourm and something that has been confirmed to get android O (wich nextbit has yet to announce a decision to besides "we have been discussing it").
If I were You and my budget was under $200 i'd get The robin.
If You can spend $225 get The g4 plus without a doubt. Hope this helps
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So how us the Robin treating you. Did you root? ARE you using any ROMs
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I like it, especially for the price. Currently using CarbonROM rooted with Magisk. Just realize you're getting a phone with zero support from the manufacturer, so don't spend more than you're willing to lose.
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DarkExistence said:
I know, I'm the AICP maintainer for ether lol... And discuss with the official lineage maintainers for ether daily ..
I meant official development, btw, meaning a lot of the bugs won't be fixed because we need official updates to be able to fix them.
O development for lineage ether hasn't even begun yet, N bugs need to be fixed before O begins, and that will take awhile.
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Well thank you for being the maintainer on Ether. I just ordered the phone. 129.00 for a phone with these specs. Couldn't pass it up. I'm sure you will eventually make AICP stable. Thank you for your honesty.

Why is the (exynos) devlopment so dead & sloppy ?

Wassup Guys,
First of all, I wanna thank every developer in this forum here for providing us with free custom roms and mods for our device. I got a G986B by myself, but I neither rooted my device, nor did I install a custom rom. I wanted to install the latest stock debloated by hmy65, sadly my device type is not supported yet.
This brings me to the question, why there are so less projects in comparison to the amount of people being active here? Besides the reason, that Samsung is not providing every source tree or similar, I am wondering why there are so less custom roms currently ...is it because of massive amount of variety between the model itself? I am a developer too, sadly I am not a pro regarding building custom roms... although I gotta admit that I am interested in learning it. Well, what do you say? I mean like the S8,S9,S10 had plenty roms avaible at that time (speaking about the passed time since the device's release).
Could be worse, you could have a snapdragon with zero development.
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Could be worse, you could have a snapdragon with zero development.
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Yeah, I was gonna say, the Snapdragon model has literally zero. I could be mistaken, but I thought SD always had more development in the past..
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Could be worse, you could have a snapdragon with zero development.
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Yeah, I was gonna say, the Snapdragon model has literally zero. I could be mistaken, but I thought SD always had more development in the past..
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Well, that's true. But I guess I speak for the majority, when I say that Samsung and Snapdragon is not always a perfect combination. Well, I'd actually build something by myself but I doubt that someone can learn that fast ??

Custom ROMs Moto G 5G Plus?

Hi everyone,
Is there any chance the custom ROM scene will take up this device? As far as I know it is a pretty solid and budget friendly device that I figured would get custom ROM support quite fast but so far I haven't been able to find any.
If there are teams working on it, can someone link me some more info?
RickyRad88 said:
Hi everyone,
Is there any chance the custom ROM scene will take up this device? As far as I know it is a pretty solid and budget friendly device that I figured would get custom ROM support quite fast but so far I haven't been able to find any.
If there are teams working on it, can someone link me some more info?
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Eventually. Most devices that have loads of Roms and Kernels are most popular and have Android devs who work on them. I'm kinda in the same boat. I have A71 Samsung and there are very few Roms
Still hoping...
Great device at a most reasonable price. I don't know how to develop my own custom rom, but certainly hope somebody else will...
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Still hoping...
Great device at a most reasonable price. I don't know how to develop my own custom rom, but certainly hope somebody else will...❤
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I really hope so too. The affordable price and quite decent specs seem to make it well suited for it. But of course it all comes down to popularity too. So far I have really been loving it (aside from the always on display being WAY too sensitive to movement of my phone) and am planning to use it for a very long time. Just like the good old Motorola Razr and Krzr phones haha.
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If there are teams working on it, can someone link me some more info?
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index · powered by h5ai 0.25.2 (http://larsjung.de/h5ai/)
index - powered by h5ai 0.25.2 (http://larsjung.de/h5ai/)
dl.omnirom.org
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How do you know this is for the Moto G 5G plus? All I can see is 'Nairo' . Is that a codename or?
RickyRad88 said:
How do you know this is for the Moto G 5G plus? All I can see is 'Nairo' . Is that a codename or?
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Nairo is indeed the codename for the g 5G+
If you go to https://omnirom.org/#devices you'll see the list of available devices (of which the g 5G+ is one). The link there is the one I posted earlier
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Nairo is indeed the codename for the g 5G+
If you go to https://omnirom.org/#devices you'll see the list of available devices (of which the g 5G+ is one). The link there is the one I posted earlier
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Thank you for the explanation and link! Happy to see someone working on a custom rom for it. As of now it seems to be an early android 11 build so I will keep an eye on it!
RickyRad88 said:
Thank you for the explanation and link! Happy to see someone working on a custom rom for it. As of now it seems to be an early android 11 build so I will keep an eye on it!
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Whoa this is the first time I saw this. Thanks for the information!
RickyRad88 said:
Thank you for the explanation and link! Happy to see someone working on a custom rom for it. As of now it seems to be an early android 11 build so I will keep an eye on it!
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Early builds by this developer are like final builds by some others .
The rom works brilliantly.
Beetle84 said:
Early builds by this developer are like final builds by some others .
The rom works brilliantly.
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I am hearing a lot of positovity about it indeed but somehow I am really struggling with getting the bootloader unlocked etc using a chromebook.. will just wait for a decent guide I guess.
The rom is marked "unofficial". Is this safe to use? Also do I use weekly or microg? Thanks for any guidance.

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