Otg support ? - Pixel C Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello everyone,
Is the pixel c support OTG ? can i use an usb flash drive with the pixel c ? thanks a lot
On twitter Google store answer me : "Mind if we jump in? The Pixel C does not have USB OTG. Hope that helps."
Thanks a lot

Yes. It does have OTG. I have tested it with a USB-C hub and was able to use a usb flash drive and Ethernet my device.

ewgit said:
Yes. It does have OTG. I have tested it with a USB-C hub and was able to use a usb flash drive and Ethernet my device.
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Can you post a link to what your using for a hub?

Hub here works great:
DBPOWER, Hub USB C , 4-Port USB 3.0 Hub for type c devices like the new MacBook, ChromeBook Pixel, smart-phone Nexus 6 and OnePlus 2 (Grey) https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B014UPCWDS
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CharlesW123 said:
Hub here works great:
DBPOWER, Hub USB C , 4-Port USB 3.0 Hub for type c devices like the new MacBook, ChromeBook Pixel, smart-phone Nexus 6 and OnePlus 2 (Grey) https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B014UPCWDS
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Is it correct that this hub doesn't have power pass through to be able to charge the tablet?
Really like the hub, but didn't buy, as I'd like it to power the tablet too.

I picked up a Griffin USB-C to USB-A adapter, plugged it in to my Pixel C, and plugged a memory stick into the cable. ES File Explorer recignized the memory stick immediately. On the box for the cable it stated that it was for plugging USB peripherals into your tablet.
https://griffintechnology.com/us/usb-c-to-usb-a-adapter

With so many cables not passing Benson Leung's tests, I am a bit unsure with USB-C OTG cable I should get. The original one from Google is 15 € which is kinda expensive...
Does anyone know if he reviewed some USB-C OTG cables? I can't find anything.

It only has full size USB a ports, so can't plug in a charger no.
The battery life is great on he Pixel C though, so all good
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scoobydu said:
Is it correct that this hub doesn't have power pass through to be able to charge the tablet?
Really like the hub, but didn't buy, as I'd like it to power the tablet too.
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I'm waiting for this one https://www.hypershop.com/products/usb-c-5-in-1-hub-with-pass-though-usb-c-charging to arrive for that exact reason.

skally said:
I'm waiting for this one https://www.hypershop.com/products/usb-c-5-in-1-hub-with-pass-though-usb-c-charging to arrive for that exact reason.
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That one looks very nice!

skally said:
I'm waiting for this one https://www.hypershop.com/products/usb-c-5-in-1-hub-with-pass-though-usb-c-charging to arrive for that exact reason.
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I did see that one, but wondered how it would work with the ucb-c in the position it is on the pixel c? mabook its on the base, but c its on the side of the tablet.

scoobydu said:
I did see that one, but wondered how it would work with the ucb-c in the position it is on the pixel c? mabook its on the base, but c its on the side of the tablet.
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Type C is reversible so it should just flip up like ?
Edit: and I wasnt questioning you I was more posing it as a question to myself But it should just go up the side of it

ZiggSVO said:
Type C is reversible so it should just flip up like ?
Edit: and I wasnt questioning you I was more posing it as a question to myself But it should just go up the side of it
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I agree that you could get it to fit, but not sure I'd want it facing straight up with my cables and sticks attached.
Seems it would stress the port or worse I'd catch it and cause some damage.
I'm thinking of this -> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Galopar-Cha...qid=1450272359&sr=8-22&keywords=usb-c+adapter with a standard usb3 hub attached?

scoobydu said:
I'm thinking of this -> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Galopar-Cha...qid=1450272359&sr=8-22&keywords=usb-c+adapter with a standard usb3 hub attached?
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Looks great, but how do you know it is compatible? After Benson Leung's reviews on USB-C cables, I am afraid to purchase any third party accessories...

Sam-X- said:
Looks great, but how do you know it is compatible? After Benson Leung's reviews on USB-C cables, I am afraid to purchase any third party accessories...
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Short answer is I don't at the moment, as have not had a chance to look at the online spreadsheet to see what he has tested and approved.
Will hopefully get to look later.
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Does not appear to be included in the spreadsheet, so likely he has not reviewed.

I tried Google's own USB C to A (female adapter that looks like a otg cable) with a memory stick and it did not work, however I plugged in a USB2 hub into that adapter and then plugged the memory stick into that and it sees to work like a charm with esexplorer, I could also attach other things like a mouse and that worked too at the same time! So the trick is to use a USB hub with Google's adapter first and you can use any USB accessories just not directly into the adapter. I have not tried a USB 3 type hub as I don't have one but I suspect it will be fine and give you even faster speeds.
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There are lots of OTG devices that work perfectly on my Nexus 5x - such as a microSD adapter, USB C ->A with a thumbdrive and my iRig UA guitar adapter
None of these work on my Pixel C.
I just got off a chat with Google support where I was told
"I'm sorry to inform you, at this moment it's not compatible. Be rest assured [sic], our engineers are working on a software fix to make it compatible with the Pixel C."
I responded with a link to the reddit AMA which seemed to state otherwise and the support rep told me that she'd get back to me via email with a response.

You can try plugging a USB 2.0 or 3.0 hub into a USB C>A adapter (mine was the Google adapter and the hub a USB 2 unpowered type) as I did and and that worked for me and I can now access Memory sticks on my Pixel C with no extra software (not sure about your iRig but it worked with other accessories I tried plugging into the hub).
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e3phillip said:
You can try plugging a USB 2.0 or 3.0 hub into a USB C>A adapter (mine was the Google adapter and the hub a USB 2 unpowered type) as I did and and that worked for me and I can now access Memory sticks on my Pixel C with no extra software (not sure about your iRig but it worked with other accessories I tried plugging into the hub).
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Thanks, I'll try with a hub. I just don't understand why a hub is required for the Pixel-C but not for the Nexus 5x
There certainly seems to be a less complete stack in the Pixel-c -vs- the Nexus 5x.
Interestingly when I insert a cable into the Nexus 5x I get a dialog to set the usb mode:
"Use USB for
- Charging
- Power Supply
- File Transfers
- Photo transfer (PTP)
- Midi"
Where as the Pixel-C only gets "Power Supply" as an option.

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[Q] Slimport & USB OTG dongle

Hi All,
Has anyone tested the new nexus 7 (2013) with a slim port and tried USB OTG at the same time?
I am very keen to find out if i can use a Nexus 7 as a portal Media machine to play back movies from a thumb drive on Hotel TVs when i travel without the need to move the file.
I understand I'd lose ability to charge the nexus 7 using USB OTG (OTG limitation) but I can live with that.
Thanks for any results
Tony.
Acuum2 said:
Hi All,
Has anyone tested the new nexus 7 (2013) with a slim port and tried USB OTG at the same time?
I am very keen to find out if i can use a Nexus 7 as a portal Media machine to play back movies from a thumb drive on Hotel TVs when i travel without the need to move the file.
I understand I'd lose ability to charge the nexus 7 using USB OTG (OTG limitation) but I can live with that.
Thanks for any results
Tony.
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AFAIK the Slimport cable needs to be directly plugged into the USB port so it can switch the Nexus 4 from standard microUSB to Slimport broadcast mode on negotiating with the hardware. If you attempted to run the Slimport adaptor through a hub or Y-cable it wouldn't work.
Thanks,
I was wondering if I could plug an OTG cable into the female on something like:
(sorry if direct product links aren't allowed)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Slimport-HD...=UTF8&qid=1378228626&sr=8-2&keywords=slimport
Acuum2 said:
Thanks,
I was wondering if I could plug an OTG cable into the female on something like:
(sorry if direct product links aren't allowed)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Slimport-HD...=UTF8&qid=1378228626&sr=8-2&keywords=slimport
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I have attempts to connect an OTG cable to the female port on my Slimport without any luck. The Slimport worked well otherwise.
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vcallas said:
I have attempts to connect an OTG cable to the female port on my Slimport without any luck. The Slimport worked well otherwise.
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Thank you for the test results.
shame... oh well!
T.
vcallas said:
I have attempts to connect an OTG cable to the female port on my Slimport without any luck. The Slimport worked well otherwise.
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Yeah, the microUSB port on the Slimport is for power only, the data pins aren't even wired up.
Suppose I connect Nexus 7 to a monitor through SlimPort. This monitor has USB ports built in. If I connect a keyboard or mouse to this USB port, will it work with the tablet?
unni_kmr said:
Suppose I connect Nexus 7 to a monitor through SlimPort. This monitor has USB ports built in. If I connect a keyboard or mouse to this USB port, will it work with the tablet?
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No - this wont work.
As stated above the data pins on the slimport are not connected so the USB can't be used for anything other than power.
ie. Tablet can't do anything else over usb when the slimport is in use.
Bluetooth keyboard + mouse could work for you though
Acuum2 said:
No - this wont work.
As stated above the data pins on the slimport are not connected so the USB can't be used for anything other than power.
ie. Tablet can't do anything else over usb when the slimport is in use.
Bluetooth keyboard + mouse could work for you though
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Thanks. My intention was to use the tablet as a PC alternative for my parents. I have dropped the idea. Now I am thinking about getting one of those Android mini PCs instead (thread here).
The issue is the limited number of pins on the Micro USB port are multi-purpose.
A Micro USB port has 5 pins, one is power and another is ground, that leaves 3 for data. These 3 "flip" (for want of a better word) between USB mode and Slimport mode, So it can only do one or the other at any time.
So the lack of data pins on the slimport pass-through port (as stated above) is not the issue. They didn't bother wiring them up because they share a couple of pins in common and so wouldn't work anyway.
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Just to clarify a slimport Micro USB connector has 5 pins. Samsung on the other hand are now using MHL 3.0 and they are pushing on with an 11 pin connectors that open up all sorts of options such as simultaneous data connections and even multiple displays! nice!
normskilight said:
A Micro USB port has 5 pins, one is power and another is ground, that leaves 3 for data. These 3 "flip" (for want of a better word) between USB mode and Slimport mode, So it can only do one or the other at any time.
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Exactly. SlimPort™ Technology White Paper has a nice explanation along with the good picture showing SlimPort architeture (see page 4)

USB C to HDMI?

Anyone have an answer to whether this is supported? Please say yes
There is an adapter cable for sale on the play store.
Link? I just checked and saw no HDMI adapter on there
clninja said:
Link? I just checked and saw no HDMI adapter on there
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Here you go!
Well hopefully that is a good sign that it will work. It's possible they have that on there for the pixel c
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Anyone have an answer to whether this is supported? Please say yes
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From the reddit AMA:
[–]strabbit 7 points an hour ago
Will either the Nexus 5x or 6p support HDMI via the USB-C connector?
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[–]google_nexus_team 12 points 54 minutes ago
DB> Nope. But Cast mirroring to ChromeCast or Android TV has got really good. And Chromecasts are only $35. And we have new ones announced yesterday.
That's bull**** if you ask me that they didn't enable it just because they are trying to push more of their products.
Sure I have a chromecast and whatnot and I can do all of that just fine at home.. But if I go somewhere that doesn't have WiFi I want to be able to connect my phone to the TV still.
Google of your going to not enable HDMI adapter connections, then make your chromecast capable of direct connection that doesn't rely on wifi
The usbC port on the nexus uses USB 2.0 standard... not a chance
Most USB-C promised feature (which actually are usb3.1 features) will not work ; it's a shame
No one has been able to confirm the spec on the USB port. Most report it to be 3.0 with some 3.1 sprinkled in.
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No one has been able to confirm the spec on the USB port. Most report it to be 3.0 with some 3.1 sprinkled in.
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I read somewhere that USB is indeed 2.0 with USB type C port, like the OnePlus Two. At least it has quick charging
Does MHL or whatever the other standard is work? I thought that allowed the phone to "cast" to the screen?
Google themselves confirmed during the AMA that it is 2.0
And disabled casting to Roku 3 in 7.0. gotta have a Chromecaat.
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USB-C to Micro USB Adapter question ?

Getting a 5X and was wondering if USB-C to Micro USB Adapters
are ok to use on my Car charger that is Micro USB
Getting tired of buying a new charger and cables all the time.
Thanks
Gary
I bought TechMate ones. According to Benson Leung (a google employee) they meet the usb type c standard. Below is a link to all of the units he tested. The TechMate one is near the bottom.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/pdp/profile/A25GROL6KJV3QG/ref=cm_cr_rdp_pdp
I got a USB c otg which meats the safety measures, that I use for everything.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00Y9Q5FTW/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1
This way you shouldn't have to worry about it ever again
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PiousInquisitor said:
I bought TechMate ones. According to Benson Leung (a google employee) they meet the usb type c standard. Below is a link to all of the units he tested. The TechMate one is near the bottom.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/pdp/profile/A25GROL6KJV3QG/ref=cm_cr_rdp_pdp
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going to order the TechMate pair ,,I assume u can use any Micro usb cable or charger on it
Gary
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gecoffin said:
going to order the TechMate pair ,,I assume u can use any Micro usb cable or charger on it
Gary
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That's what I'm assuming. I used it on my old 2013 Moto X cable to flash TWRP without issue.
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USB C to HDMI

Has anyone gotten one to work I bought 2 from Amazon and none seem to work. Maybe I thought wrong but thought HTC 10 has displayport output.
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I tried one at work last week, worked fine. Not sure what kind i got, but was not a problem.
OK thanks... I'll probably go to Best Buy and see if I can test one out there. Hope I don't have a bad port
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[Cruzer] said:
OK thanks... I'll probably go to Best Buy and see if I can test one out there. Hope I don't have a bad port
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I've tried 2. One worked, one didn't. Both were designed for macbooks, so ymmv.
I will try this out when I get the chance.
Tried one at the Computex last WE, for MacBook. Didn't work.
And after I tried the HTC10 and put it back to the MacBook it didn't work at all anymore.
Haldi4803 said:
Tried one at the Computex last WE, for MacBook. Didn't work.
And after I tried the HTC10 and put it back to the MacBook it didn't work at all anymore.
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damn thats not good news. still haven't had the time to head to local bestbuy. Hoping someone got one to work and point to an amazon link really miss having to show movies (for my kids) on the screen. Still have my MHL adpater for htc m9.
Adapter needs to use display port protocol, not mhl. Some adapters (USBC to HDMI) will use mhl internally and won't work (to my knowledge). See USB-C thread in 'Real Life'? section.
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lsblack said:
Adapter needs to use display port protocol, not mhl. Some adapters (USBC to HDMI) will use mhl internally and won't work (to my knowledge). See USB-C thread in 'Real Life'? section.
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Yes I know can't use MHL for HTC 10.. Just saying I miss that feature. And almost nagging at me still is the MHL cable. starring at me saying why did you get of the M9 [emoji14] you could be watching videos on the 70inch right now.
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Buy your nagging mhl cable a baby sister; a USB-C to HDMI port adapter / hub. It uses display port protocol and supports 4k. Adapter also includes USB 3.0 host port (so OTG) and 2nd USB-C port (for charger connection, I think optional, but I always use). Charge phone and watch at same time. See referenced thread for source. Win-win but approx $30. Need standard HDMI cable. Works well for me.
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I ran into the same problem the mac pro adapter, it would charge or display not both. I went this route Microsoft - Wireless Display Adapter V2 receiver - Dark-Titanium and use HTC connect. It works great.
lsblack said:
Buy your nagging mhl cable a baby sister; a USB-C to HDMI port adapter / hub. It uses display port protocol and supports 4k. Adapter also includes USB 3.0 host port (so OTG) and 2nd USB-C port (for charger connection, I think optional, but I always use). Charge phone and watch at same time. See referenced thread for source. Win-win but approx $30. Need standard HDMI cable. Works well for me.
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Just curious... you've had no problem charging this way? I wasn't sure if the 10 could take a regular USB-C charger or if it needed a QC compatible charger.
Partial answer. The HTC-10 does not need QC2 charger, just might charge slower or at various rates supplied by charger. I use several different chargers I had for my micro USB phones. Both using micro-USBC adapters, and USB-C cable direct. What I haven't tried (per your question), is fully charging via the mentioned display adapter. I doubt that the will recognize it as QC2. I will try this with the HTC supplied charger.
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Here a very quick video of my HTC 10 working on HDMI while being charged.
Hi
Here a very quick video of my HTC 10 working on HDMI while being charged.
5Gbps UBS 3.1 TypeC to 4K HDMI USB 3.0 HUB USBC Charging Port OTG Adapter UK 5Gbps UBS 3.1 Type-C to 4K HDMI USB 3.0 HUB USB-C Charging Port OTG Adapter UK | eBay
No Audio out via HDMI on this product. There is audio just does not work on my monitor via HDMI but works fine on TVs.
Video Output was 1080p @60fps
Sorry for the bad video; as it was taken with my Nexus 7.
https://youtu.be/Iuf1YoBzzn8
Thanks for this, will be ordering one myself now.
edit: no audio out on this device, well then that sucks. Not good for watching video, yah I know I probably can use headphone jack for that but should work that way in my opinion. guess I'll still be on the hunt for a simple HDMI and audio output like the good old MHL adapter.
1stGGMan said:
Hi
Here a very quick video of my HTC 10 working on HDMI while being charged.
5Gbps UBS 3.1 TypeC to 4K HDMI USB 3.0 HUB USBC Charging Port OTG Adapter UK 5Gbps UBS 3.1 Type-C to 4K HDMI USB 3.0 HUB USB-C Charging Port OTG Adapter UK | eBay
No Audio out via HDMI on this product.
Video Output was 1080p @60fps
Sorry for the bad video; as it was taken with my Nexus 7.
https://youtu.be/Iuf1YoBzzn8
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[Cruzer] said:
Thanks for this, will be ordering one myself now.
edit: no audio out on this device, well then that sucks. Not good for watching video, yah I know I probably can use headphone jack for that but should work that way in my opinion. guess I'll still be on the hunt for a simple HDMI and audio output like the good old MHL adapter.
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I was wrong about audio, it works fine on a TVs but for some reason not on my monitor with HDMI?
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I was wrong about audio, it works fine on a TVs but for some reason not on my monitor with HDMI?
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ok thanks, i'll go ahead and get one and test myself.. thanks again for the info.
Pls ask me! For 5Gbps UBS 3.1 Type-C to 4K HDMI USB 3.0 HUB USB-C Charging Port OTG Adapter UK support any cable HDMI?
Sorry my English
1stGGMan said:
Hi
Here a very quick video of my HTC 10 working on HDMI while being charged.
5Gbps UBS 3.1 TypeC to 4K HDMI USB 3.0 HUB USBC Charging Port OTG Adapter UK 5Gbps UBS 3.1 Type-C to 4K HDMI USB 3.0 HUB USB-C Charging Port OTG Adapter UK | eBay
No Audio out via HDMI on this product. There is audio just does not work on my monitor via HDMI but works fine on TVs.
Video Output was 1080p @60fps
Sorry for the bad video; as it was taken with my Nexus 7.
https://youtu.be/Iuf1YoBzzn8
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Is this available anywhere else? I was hoping to find this or a similar device on Amazon or something but nothing else has been confirmed to be compatible. Is your experience with this device still a positive one??
Also, I am assuming that if you want to supply charging power to this device you need to use a non-QuickCharge charger as supplying greater than 5V to the electronics in this device would be bad...? What about still using legacy USB-A to USB-C cables (like the one that came with the HTC 10) with the 56K Ohm resister?
radensb said:
Is this available anywhere else? I was hoping to find this or a similar device on Amazon or something but nothing else has been confirmed to be compatible. Is your experience with this device still a positive one??
Also, I am assuming that if you want to supply charging power to this device you need to use a non-QuickCharge charger as supplying greater than 5V to the electronics in this device would be bad...? What about still using legacy USB-A to USB-C cables (like the one that came with the HTC 10) with the 56K Ohm resister?
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I use mine all the time at work for about 3-7 hours a night (5 nights a week) - have it plugged into spare monitor to watch youtube etc.
I using the default charger that came with the HTC 10 and only gets slightly warm (charger & adaptor) when I been playing games for a hour or two.
Been thinking about purchasing another one as a backup.

OTG

Does anyone know if the Pixel will support OTG without root?
ShaunWinSC said:
Does anyone know if the Pixel will support OTG without root?
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I think I saw an unpacking video and the OTG adapter was included in the box.
just whacked a mouse into the adapter in the box. works fine.
Also tried with a mem stick, and works fine
What is the use of the USB to USB-C adapter that comes with the cable ?
AstroDigital said:
What is the use of the USB to USB-C adapter that comes with the cable ?
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I think it was intended to facilitate moving files from an older phone. Mine is due to arrive any moment. I think we will all have some real answers soon.
Except most old phones do not have USB-C
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Except most old phones do not have USB-C
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You plug the USB C end into the Pixel and then use another cable to connect an older phone (presumably one you're already using with the older phone). Micro USB/Lightning into the older phone, USB into the adapter. The adapter can also be utilized for OTG - USB C into the Pixel, flash drive/other USB device into the USB port.
AstroDigital said:
What is the use of the USB to USB-C adapter that comes with the cable ?
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Also to use OTG. Plug that in, and you can hook up a keyboard, mouse, removable drive, someone elses phone, whatever.
Could someone clarify. I plugged the adapter in how I was directed by a thread at the "pixel community". The thread referenced a way to use the adapter to transfer files however I plugged it in set the settings to xfer files and nothing. Does the adapter go into the pixel or the (in my case) Note 7? The thread listed a way to make these transfers upon start up but I'm way past start up. I need to transfer a couple apps and a big phone log and a truck load of texts. Any help out there?

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