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Hey guys just received my n7 yesterday and am very pleased with this, however I have some questions.
Does rooting (only) removes your OTA updates access? I also own a Galaxy S4 (rooted) and I can't get OTA, it says it's modified, but I did flash a custom update on it and kernel. So if I just root my n7, and not flash anything, I will still get OTA's correct? I just want to use some apps which requires root access and not planning to flash a custom rooms or anything. Thanks for any help.
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Mine is always rooted, and I get all OTAs.
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You just need to have the stock recovery to receive OTAs.
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You just need to have the stock recovery to receive OTAs.
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So if I have twrp installed, i won't receive them?
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Takes 10 seconds to reflash the stock recovery.
UPDATE: SuperSU-v1.55 added the fix for the OTA update issue, so this post is no longer necessary unless you are using an older version of SuperSU
This post also applies to JSS15Q update.
I actually went through and tested JWR66N rooted with SuperSU and the JSS15J OTA update. I expected it to work but it exited with an error.
Ironically the JSS15J OTA actually did patch every single file successfully but near the end while setting permissions, it came up with an error, so after reboot you'll actually be running with all JSS15J rom files, except your build will still say JWR66N, you'll still be running the JWR66N recovery, and you'll still be running the 3.05 bootloader.
I tracked down the issue and put together a fix for it. If you want, it is attached to this post. You just run it after installing SuperSU, so basically:
adb reboot bootloader
fastboot boot twrp.img
within TWRP
install UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.51.zip (SuperSU v1.55 or greater incorporates the OTA fix)
install UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.55.zip
install UPDATE-SuperSU-ota.zip (can be chain installed, just make sure you choose to install it 2nd)
reboot
You'll need to redo these steps (both the installs) after you receive the OTA to preserve root and ability to receive future OTAs.
Also as others have mentioned it is best to be running stock recovery (which the above commands will allow you to do because twrp is never flashed on the tablet) I've attached the stock recovery for JSS15J in case someone needs it.
If you make ANY modifications or delete files from the stock ROM with your new root privileges, then you will greatly increase the chances of the OTA failing. Adding new files is normally fine.
Well shoot - now you have me worried. I did install TWRP, but never considered that would block OTAs. Do they attempt to install and fail?
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rmm200 said:
Well shoot - now you have me worried. I did install TWRP, but never considered that would block OTAs. Do they attempt to install and fail?
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On some platforms, especially when flashing bootloaders and/or radios, the stock recovery pulls some funky maneuvers to get that done. Often custom recoveries are not privy to those maneuvers. Also sometimes custom recoveries will experiment with custom kernels which don't always have the bootloader and/or radio devices mapped the same as the stock kernel. This can lead to problems to.
Thus it is safest to use stock recovery to flash OTAs.
I have flashed the complete JSS15J OTA except for the bootloader part using TWRP and it works ok. All the ROM files are patched.
I just didn't feel like risking my tablet with the bootloader flash portion of JSS15J OTA using twrp. It might work fine. I just know from the past the potential for issues are higher in that section of the OTA flash.
Is it common for nice folk on here to upload a stock zip of say for example, 4.3.1 when it releases so that we can flash it through a custom recovery (e.g., TWRP, CWM etc.), without having to change our custom recoveries?
It was common on other platforms I've used, but I don't know about here.
Root will not prevent an OTA update from coming in and installing, and a custom recovery won't "block" (it just won't be able to complete the install of it automatically). I have been installing OTA updates on rooted Nexus devices with custom recoveries since the Nexus One, and assuming the new Nexus 7 works the same way, the following applies:
If you are running stock ROM, your deivce will receive the notification and download the update, even if rooted
If you are running stock recovery, the update will install automatically as normal
If you are running a custom recovery like CWM or TWRP, it will fail to install automatically but it will still have downloaded to the device and you can use the custom recovery to install it yourself (I've never had this fail)
If you have modified files in /system, the OTA update is pretty much guaranteed to fail regardless of which recovery you use
If you successfully install the OTA update, you will no longer have root, so flash SuperSU using a custom recovery after the OTA update installs
Also:
You can always look for the OTA zip URLs on XDA and just download the update yourself to flash if you don't want to wait for it to come to your device (this is what I always do)
You can flash factory images instead of the update, without losing data (see other threads for how)
If you want to keep stock recovery installed, you can always use fastboot to boot a custom recovery without flashing it, in case you ever need it
The above is accurate and correct as far as I'm aware from my own experience over the years with Nexus devices. I'm sure someone will be happy to correct me if anything is wrong Hope this helps.
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Root will not prevent an OTA update from coming in and installing, and a custom recovery won't "block" (it just won't be able to complete the install of it automatically).
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I thought the same about root not blocking the OTA update install from being successful, but that was with years of using superuser.
With SuperSU (I am not sure which version introduced it) they set the immutable flag on a file in almost every OTA. I believe this is to support some OTA survival mode. This causes the OTA to fail in the section where it sets permissions. All the files are patched at that point, but the build.prop hasn't been modified to reflect the new version # and the bootloader and recovery haven't been flash.
You'll essentially be running JSS15J but your software will report it is on JWR66N, your bootloader wouldn't have been patched, and you would be running JWR66N recovery.
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Is it common for nice folk on here to upload a stock zip of say for example, 4.3.1 when it releases so that we can flash it through a custom recovery (e.g., TWRP, CWM etc.), without having to change our custom recoveries?
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yes the ota update zip always gets posted so you can manually flash with a custom recovery...
just keep in mind you need to keep your files stock otherwise it might not work
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nolook said:
yes the ota update zip always gets posted so you can manually flash with a custom recovery...
just keep in mind you need to keep your files stock otherwise it might not work
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When you say keep your files stock what does that mean exactly? I have titanium backup app installed would that be one of them? Thanks.
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When you say keep your files stock what does that mean exactly? I have titanium backup app installed would that be one of them? Thanks.
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Titanium backup is an app, I assume with files he is targeting e. G. Config files.
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When you say keep your files stock what does that mean exactly? I have titanium backup app installed would that be one of them? Thanks.
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It means don't modify or delete any files in /system
Don't remove a system app that shipped with the tablet. You can install a new version as that just hides the one in /system, but if you remove or modify the original, then the OTA will very likely fail (depending on how complex the OTA is)
Adding files is ok.
Alright, so here's my scenario. Hopefully someone can tell me what should happen:
I am running the stock ROM on my Nexus 7 (2013), but I have ClockWorkMod Recovery installed and I'm using Koush's Superuser app for root permissions. The only system file that I think I have changed is my hosts file because of Adaway. That is easily reverted, though.
So can I just download the OTA, install it manually from the custom recovery (flashing the update.zip file), and then re-flash Koush's superuser app back onto the device?
Will that go smoothly, and will the newer build number be accurately reflected in my About Phone afterward?
(that last part is just my OCD talking)
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[*]If you are running a custom recovery like CWM or TWRP, it will fail to install automatically but it will still have downloaded to the device and you can use the custom recovery to install it yourself (I've never had this fail)
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This was very helpful, and this is the category i fall in. However, i have installed a kernel. does that change anything?
So basically what you are saying is this, with my current set up:
1 - i will get the update, it will download, but wont install. I should boot into TWRP and install the file that way. Correct? Where is the downloaded file stores?
2 - I can just wait for the download to be posted on here, and just install via twrp.
3 - either way, after installing it, i will lose root. I should then boot into twrp and flash supersu.
Correct?
Theoretically it could work. I believe the flash has worked with twrp.
Personally I always put stock recovery back to flash ota's though especially if there is a bootloader (or radio if you have a mobile version) because on some platforms they involve special procedures that may not be in the custom recovery.
On nexus it looks like it will work with custom recovery but it takes so little effort to put stock recovery back I just do it automatically.
Having said that, I've seen one person post it worked on twrp but haven't read an experience on cwm. Not saying it will or won't work.
If we are running the stock ROM, but have it rooted with the custom recovery, why cant we just use Wegfresh's nexus toolkit to Unroot and image using the updated IMG file?
Then go through and use it to recreate the root\custom recovery again?
Long story short, I was a victim of the bricked/unrecoverable OTA update situation that seems to be plaguing everyone lately. ASUS did repair my tablet, so it got back to me last week and it a fresh, untouched 4.4.2 as far as I can tell.
I am trying to get a better handle on the "proper", manual non-toolkit way of doing everything. I am up to the unlocked bootloader and have TWRP 2.8.4.0 flashed for recovery - now to root and updating.
My confusion with with flashing the SuperSU zip - should you just always us the most updated version (and where is the "proper" source everyone uses) or are there certain versions of SuperSU that pair correctly with different OS numbers (4.4.2, 4.4.4, 5.0.2, etc)? Is it always as simple as flashing the SuperSU.zip through TWRP after updating via factory image flash to a different OS version #? (Say from 4.4.2 now and flashing to 4.4.4 or 5.0.2)?
When I exited TWRP the first time after flashing it, it said I did not have superSU installed and did I want to - will that process auto-flash the zip and root the N7 with the correct superSU version (it is the latest TWRP release 2.8.4.0) or do I need to download the proper superSU.zip for TWRP to then find on my internal storage when that prompt comes up?
Thanks,
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Long story short, I was a victim of the bricked/unrecoverable OTA update situation that seems to be plaguing everyone lately. ASUS did repair my tablet, so it got back to me last week and it a fresh, untouched 4.4.2 as far as I can tell.
I am trying to get a better handle on the "proper", manual non-toolkit way of doing everything. I am up to the unlocked bootloader and have TWRP 2.8.4.0 flashed for recovery - now to root and updating.
My confusion with with flashing the SuperSU zip - should you just always us the most updated version (and where is the "proper" source everyone uses) or are there certain versions of SuperSU that pair correctly with different OS numbers (4.4.2, 4.4.4, 5.0.2, etc)? Is it always as simple as flashing the SuperSU.zip through TWRP after updating via factory image flash to a different OS version #? (Say from 4.4.2 now and flashing to 4.4.4 or 5.0.2)?
When I exited TWRP the first time after flashing it, it said I did not have superSU installed and did I want to - will that process auto-flash the zip and root the N7 with the correct superSU version (it is the latest TWRP release 2.8.4.0) or do I need to download the proper superSU.zip for TWRP to then find on my internal storage when that prompt comes up?
Thanks,
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You got it, flash recovery and select yes when it asks you if you want to install SU binary. If you plan on sticking with KitKat (that's what I'm doing, I hate Lollipop), then I recommend flashing the 4.4.4 system image via fastboot first, then flash recovery again, and then let TWRP install SU. I actually just did this yesterday. I dusted off my N7 after a year of not using it and it was still on 4.4.2 so yesterday I updated it to 4.4.4 by flashing a system image. Wanted a clean start.
I'm pretty sure it works the same for lollipop now too. Originally you needed to flash a special kernel, but I think now you can root it the same way as Kit Kat, ie. via recovery. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think I am.
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You got it, flash recovery and select yes when it asks you if you want to install SU binary. If you plan on sticking with KitKat (that's what I'm doing, I hate Lollipop), then I recommend flashing the 4.4.4 system image via fastboot first, then flash recovery again, and then TWRP install SU. I did this yesterday. I dusted off my N7 after a year of not using it and it was still on 4.4.2 so yesterday I updated it to 4.4.4 by flashing a system image. Wanted a clean start.
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10-4, thanks. So the 2.8.4.0 version of TWRP should already have that SU binary ready to roll (could either choose to flash it now and be rooted on 4.4.2, or fastboot flash the factory 4.4.4 and then reflash TWRP and flash the su zip?) No further superSU.zip/binary downloads, essentially?
I also think I will go with 4.4.4 for now, the 5.0.1 bricking my tablet left a bad aftertaste, it was OTA though. Perhaps fastboot factory image would have no issues.
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10-4, thanks. So the 2.8.4.0 version of TWRP should already have that SU binary ready to roll (could either choose to flash it now and be rooted on 4.4.2, or fastboot flash the factory 4.4.4 and then reflash TWRP and flash the su zip?) No further superSU.zip/binary downloads, essentially?
I also think I will go with 4.4.4 for now, the 5.0.1 bricking my tablet left a bad aftertaste, it was OTA though. Perhaps fastboot factory image would have no issues.
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It'll install the SU binary but then once you boot into the OS it prompts you to download SuperSU from the play store. Once you download it and open it, it'll prompt you to update the SU binary. Just hit yes and it'll do it for you, and then you reboot and you're done.
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It'll install the SU binary but then once you boot into the OS it prompts you to download SuperSU from the play store. Once you download it and open it, it'll prompt you to update the SU binary. Just hit yes and it'll do it for you, and then you reboot and you're done.
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Awesome, thanks man. From all the various threads about how to root, it makes it seem WAY more involved than that.
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Awesome, thanks man. From all the various threads about how to root, it makes it seem WAY more involved than that.
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No prob bud. One of the big benefits of Nexus devices is that they are super simple to root. Heck, they are super simple to do pretty much anything on. That's the only reason why I decided to start from scratch yesterday, because it's like nothing to do. The longest part was re-downloading all my apps, but still the whole process took about 30 min start to finish. If you're not downloading a ton of apps, it'll take you 5 minutes.
I don't really need a custom recovery (I don't know of any features custom recovery will give me I really need?) and for now I'm fine running stock roms (I always give stock a few weeks just as a baseline before I start custom roms) but I was wondering, how would one go about rooting the OP3 without installing a custom recovery?
Is it possible / easily doable? Or am I better off just to flash some custom recovery and ditch the stock one?
The reason I don't want to go away from stock just yet is I know oneplus is still updating the rom and custom recoveries, historically, have made OTA updates problematic.
Rooting will also mess up Ota too, but if u install a custom recovery, now that we have stock recovery it will be very easy to revert back for OTAs, there should be a way to root without a custom recovery but I am not sure how though, but with how oneplus makes it so easy to unlock bootloader and flash customers stuff there is really no need to stay stock
You can simply connect your OP3 to a PC and boot to TWRP without flashing it:
fastboot boot twrp.img
Then do a backup with twrp before rooting. I use the above method with systemless root
and also don't really need a custom recovery at this point. This might change once CM13 matures on the OP3...
OTAs might work this way in the future. If they don't, restore your system + boot (kernel) partition
and try the OTA again.
edit: implying your bootloader is already unlocked
pileot said:
I don't really need a custom recovery (I don't know of any features custom recovery will give me I really need?) and for now I'm fine running stock roms (I always give stock a few weeks just as a baseline before I start custom roms) but I was wondering, how would one go about rooting the OP3 without installing a custom recovery?
Is it possible / easily doable? Or am I better off just to flash some custom recovery and ditch the stock one?
The reason I don't want to go away from stock just yet is I know oneplus is still updating the rom and custom recoveries, historically, have made OTA updates problematic.
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As far as I know, you'd have to have TWRP to get root.
I don't think getting it rooted will mess up the OTA updates, other users sprovide flashable zips for the OTA anyway.. so you can still flash the zips manually with TWRP to keep you updated.
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To get root yes, you would need TWRP to flash to certain partitions but to keep root no. Your phone will operate just fine with root and stock recovery. Check what the user a few posts above mine said about temporary flashing TWRP to achieve your short term goals
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You can simply connect your OP3 to a PC and boot to TWRP without flashing it:
fastboot boot twrp.img
Then do a backup with twrp before rooting. I use the above method with systemless root
and also don't really need a custom recovery at this point. This might change once CM13 matures on the OP3...
OTAs might work this way in the future. If they don't, restore your system + boot (kernel) partition
and try the OTA again.
edit: implying your bootloader is already unlocked
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So have you actually done this by temporary booting twrp and then using the systemless root and still have stock recovery? Also how do I root systemless? Really wanna know because wanna keep stock recovery and have root
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So have you actually done this by temporary booting twrp and then using the systemless root and still have stock recovery? Also how do I root systemless? Really wanna know because wanna keep stock recovery and have root
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Yes, I have the stock recovery and it is rooted.
The recovery partition has nothing to do with all the other partitions except that it can read and write them.
This is the zip I flashed to get systemless root:
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24591000424939898
Some users reported that some Root-apps are not supported this way.
I am using Titanium Backup, Adaway, Trimmer and Root Explorer without issues.
Keep in mind that I did not get any OTA so far since running this setup, so I am not sure if official OTAs will or will not work.
All I did was manually flash OxygenOS 3.1.3 in TWRP (not flashed but booted) and reflash the root package afterwards.
AcmE85 said:
You can simply connect your OP3 to a PC and boot to TWRP without flashing it:
fastboot boot twrp.img
Then do a backup with twrp before rooting. I use the above method with systemless root
and also don't really need a custom recovery at this point. This might change once CM13 matures on the OP3...
OTAs might work this way in the future. If they don't, restore your system + boot (kernel) partition
and try the OTA again.
edit: implying your bootloader is already unlocked
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I have an unlocked bootloader and tried this on my PC:
C:\adb>fastboot boot twrp.img
downloading 'boot.img'...
OKAY [ 0.709s]
booting...
OKAY [ 0.373s]
finished. total time: 1.092s
Nothing happens, bootloader start screen stays frozen. Until I hold down the power button. Might you know why?
AcmE85 said:
You can simply connect your OP3 to a PC and boot to TWRP without flashing it:
fastboot boot twrp.img
Then do a backup with twrp before rooting. I use the above method with systemless root
and also don't really need a custom recovery at this point. This might change once CM13 matures on the OP3...
OTAs might work this way in the future. If they don't, restore your system + boot (kernel) partition
and try the OTA again.
edit: implying your bootloader is already unlocked
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i tried to boot into twrp recovery with above command, but the phone seems to be stuck in the bootloader and not responding. Any ideas?
edit: comment above describes exact same behaviour, sorry for double post
Sorry, don't know. Booting takes a couple seconds on my device though.
I am using this recovery img: http://www6.zippyshare.com/v/iK6tCE6D/file.html
Got it from XDA, but unfortunately don't know anymore who build it.
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Sorry, don't know. Booting takes a couple seconds on my device though.
I am using this recovery img: http://www6.zippyshare.com/v/iK6tCE6D/file.html
Got it from XDA, but unfortunately don't know anymore who build it.
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Thanks, that twrp img worked for me. The one I was using didnt allow me to boot to it.
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Keep in mind that I did not get any OTA so far since running this setup, so I am not sure if official OTAs will or will not work.
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Any chance you know if you get OTA by now?
I really like the Op3 and dont wont to change anything except i would like to habe root access. Your method seems to be the best way to achieve that.
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Any chance you know if you get OTA by now?
I really like the Op3 and dont wont to change anything except i would like to habe root access. Your method seems to be the best way to achieve that.
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The updater will recognize root on your device and download the full 1.3 gb Rom file.
But after updating root will be gone, so you will have to reflash root after each ota.
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The updater will recognize root on your device and download the full 1.3 gb Rom file.
But after updating root will be gone, so you will have to reflash root after each ota.
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Thanks for the quick answer
Just to make sure, if I root using this method nothing will change, except I have root access, my bootloader is unlocked and the updates will be big, but I can update the normal way, I will just lose the root access? Is that correct or am I missing something?
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Thanks for the quick answer
Just to make sure, if I root using this method nothing will change, except I have root access, my bootloader is unlocked and the updates will be big, but I can update the normal way, I will just lose the root access? Is that correct or am I missing something?
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One more thing:
If you have TWRP, automatically installing the big OTA will remove it and go back to the stock recovery.
I always manually move the downloaded ota from android/data/com.oneplus.ota/files/.OnePlusOta
to my download folder, boot into TWRP and flash it + SuperSU on my own.
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One more thing:
If you have TWRP, automatically installing the big OTA will remove it and go back to the stock recovery.
I always manually move the downloaded ota from android/data/com.oneplus.ota/files/.OnePlusOta
to my download folder, boot into TWRP and flash it + SuperSU on my own.
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So you have TWRP installed? I thought you won't get OTAs if you have a custom recovery? So i could just flash TWRP and root and still get OTAs?
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So you have TWRP installed? I thought you won't get OTAs if you have a custom recovery? So i could just flash TWRP and root and still get OTAs?
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Yes, OTAs will come and because of Root you will get the full OTA regardless, which does not cause any issues with TWRP.
I tried my previous method and the regular OTA would fail because of root which changes the kernel or the system partition.
OnePlus reacted to this and introduced the full rom OTAs at some point.
So with root on my device this is how I do OTAs now:
- get the OTA notification for the full rom
- download but don't install
- move the downloaded zip from android/data/com.oneplus.ota/files/.OnePlusOta to my download folder
- manually boot into twrp and flash full rom zip + SuperSU
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Yes, OTAs will come and because of Root you will get the full OTA regardless which does not cause any issues with TWRP.
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Okay, thanks so much for your help
I have 5.01 and I want to update to 6.01. I want to wipe it clean. Got factory image from Google site.
What's the difference between the OTA and factory downloads?
I can just flash the factory in TWRP right? Will I lose root, or will TWRP ask if I want to keep root?
I still have boot loader unlocked.I just can't remember for the life of me, haven't done flashing etc in a few years.
Thanks!
So...not a single person can tell me if I lose root, or if TWRP will re-root?
Please?
N7 is no longer supported by Google and there will be no more OTA.
You can't flash the entire factory image directly from TWRP (but it is doable).
When you flash the factory image, you will lose root, TWRP and all your data.
NRT can simplify flashing, rooting and restoring TWRP.
You have unlocked boot loader
Just fastboot flash all as yiu want clean install
After that fastboot flash twrp
After that flash superSU
Done.
No need for any toolkit's, try to stay away of them and do it manually.
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N7 is no longer supported by Google and there will be no more OTA.
You can't flash the entire factory image directly from TWRP (but it is doable).
When you flash the factory image, you will lose root, TWRP and all your data.
NRT can simplify flashing, rooting and restoring TWRP.
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I know it isn't supported anymore. They still have the image's though.
Im just confused... Long time ago when I was really into all this, I just went to Googles page, downloaded the .zip and flashed it in TWRP. Now, the Google page is different and there isn't just 1 anymore. Can I just open the factory image and unzip the update part and flash that in TWRP?
The OTA files are only for updating from version to version correct? Can't go from what I'm on, 5.01 to the current 6.1 right? That's what I talking about and why I'm so confused now
Googles page used to have the OTA zip to update from prior newest to newest(5.0 to 5.01 for example) but than they also had the full OTA so you could do a 4.0 to 5.1 or whatever. Why they change the site? Which one do I use now to go from my 5.01 to current 6.1?
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You have unlocked boot loader
Just fastboot flash all as yiu want clean install
After that fastboot flash twrp
After that flash superSU
Done.
No need for any toolkit's, try to stay away of them and do it manually.
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That's the pronlem, normally yes I would do that no problem. I'm in the middle of upgrading my PC after had a surge or something and fried my ****.
That's why I want to do it via TWRP like I always did before. Every time TWRP asked if I wanted to retain root after updating also. So what in the world happened in the last year that It doesn't seem like I can now? Like I said above, I can't find a full update OTA on!y the incremental OTAs...
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I know it isn't supported anymore. They still have the image's though.
Im just confused... Long time ago when I was really into all this, I just went to Googles page, downloaded the .zip and flashed it in TWRP. Now, the Google page is different and there isn't just 1 anymore. Can I just open the factory image and unzip the update part and flash that in TWRP?
The OTA files are only for updating from version to version correct? Can't go from what I'm on, 5.01 to the current 6.1 right? That's what I talking about and why I'm so confused now
Googles page used to have the OTA zip to update from prior newest to newest(5.0 to 5.01 for example) but than they also had the full OTA so you could do a 4.0 to 5.1 or whatever. Why they change the site? Which one do I use now to go from my 5.01 to current 6.1?
That's the pronlem, normally yes I would do that no problem. I'm in the middle of upgrading my PC after had a surge or something and fried my ****.
That's why I want to do it via TWRP like I always did before. Every time TWRP asked if I wanted to retain root after updating also. So what in the world happened in the last year that It doesn't seem like I can now? Like I said above, I can't find a full update OTA on!y the incremental OTAs...
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Ok yes that's possible
If you have twrp already
Check development forum and choose one of the ROM.
Download it to your tablet plus gapps
Wipe system, cache and data leaving internal storage.
Flash ROM reboot, come back to twrp and flash gapps. ( Can do ROM + Gapps in one go)
Download SuperSU and flash to get root.
You can't flash stock image / OTA via twrp.
While you're doing all this try the 7.0 ROM its good enough now.
atifsh said:
Ok yes that's possible
If you have twrp already
Check development forum and choose one of the ROM.
Download it to your tablet plus gapps
Wipe system, cache and data leaving internal storage.
Flash ROM reboot, come back to twrp and flash gapps. ( Can do ROM + Gapps in one go)
Download SuperSU and flash to get root.
You can't flash stock image / OTA via twrp.
While you're doing all this try the 7.0 ROM its good enough now.
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Ahhh what happened??? Why can you not flash them with TWRP???
Thats what I used to do no problem. Not referring to custom roms either.
I am wanting stock rooted.
I used to download the update when one was released from Google's site, put the update.zip in main directory, go in recovery and flash update.zip. TWRP would ask me if I wanted to keep root, I say yes, reboot, update installs... than i'm on the new Android version still rooted.
How is that not possible now?
I am so annoyed... I never had to go through ADB or fastboot to update to latest. I did everything on my N7, it kept root for me and everything.
I feel so dumb right now its ridiculous lol
So than what way can I go about updating my N7 2013 Wifi, which I currently have 5.01. I am Rooted w/ unlocked bootloader.
What is the best way not using ADB, or a PC at all for that matter to update to the latest, 6.01. If possible, how can I keep root, if not i'm not worried about it, i'll just re-root myself.
I appreciate all the responses, sorry if i'm just being an idiot. I just know for a fact I never had to use ADB or my PC to update and keep root...
I'm not familiar with Stock OTA done with twrp (if that's even possible)
Already told you get a custom ROM, get the one mostly stock or if there's a stock ROM in zip format available.
In future you might need to update that bootloader of yours for newer ROMs
Sorry if this sounds harsh why are you so into keeping root as you can't do it again? It's simple as flashing SuperSU. Root method changed after 6 you cant have old methods with 6.
Best bet for you at the moment.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3219148
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I'm so confused with this phone. Google sent me a 128gb Pixel XL which I activated on my Sprint account. I'm fairly comfortable with rooting, flashing, TWRP, SuperSU, etc., however for the life of me I cannot get TWRP to stick.
Background...
Phone came to me straight from Google, and updated to 8.0 immediately (this was in August). Since, the phone doesn't appear to have been updated as I was still on 8.0 from August I believe
Here's what I did...
Unlocked the phone, using TWRP image, boot to it via fastboot, flash the installer TWRP zip, and then issues happen.
On 3.2.1.0-0 it reboots to system (even if I go back into TWRP's main setting and Reboot Recovery). If I use 3.2.0.0-0, it gives me an ERROR 1 code. I've tried using systemless root method (with the modified TWRP img, Aroma Installer for SU, etc.). I've tried using the 2 most recent TWRP images from their website. I initially started with this guide ([GUIDE] Pixel XL Android 8(OREO) Unlock/Install Stock Images + Kernels/Recovery +). I then tried this method using Systemless root ([Guide] How to systemlessly root your Pixel XL on Android 8.0 (SuperSU)).
I even tried flashing the OTA manually, which caused other issues, mainly bootloops. I finally got the most recent 8.0 OTA to work after multiple errors (which appear to be caused by outdated platform_tools). When trying to flash the OTA, only OPR1 would flash, OPR3 would always just hang or throw errors (sorry, no changelog, which I know is not helpful). Am I not correct that OPR3 is what is needed for a Sprint (US carriers) based phone? Regardless, everything is up, and running now in 8.0, however I can't take the OTA (it fails when trying to download), and I still can't get TWRP to stick.
Is there anything obvious I'm missing? I can boot to TWRP, but can't flash it, regardless of what I do. I've searched and most issues I've found in getting TWRP to stick either has to do with flashing the boot.img from an OTA or using 3.2.1.0 instead of 3.2.2.0. Funny thing, I don't see the 3.2.2.0 img file, just the flashable zip. Someone please help me, even if it is to tell me I'm in over my head and should stick to a stock rom.
I think you should simplify your life.
Each month grab the full image. Edit the flash-all bat file and remove the -w you will see near the end. Reboot the phone into fastboot mode and run the flash-all bat file.
That will update your phone, but leave settings a data in tact. Again, remove the -w so you don't wipe user data.
Then boot to TWRP and root it. Skip installing TWRP, too many hassles on this phone.
FYI, on the January update SuperSU no longer works, you will need to root with Magisk.
I do it each month this way. It takes 15 minutes and I have zero problems.
To make your life even more simplicit, you can use Skipsoft Toolkit. Its automated and does all the heavy lifting for you. I have TWRP install without any issue.
TonikJDK said:
Each month grab the full image. Edit the flash-all bat file and remove the -w you will see near the end. Reboot the phone into fastboot mode and run the flash-all bat file..
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So you're saying grab the Full OTA? Should I start with the last month before the version I'm on? Currently on OPR1.170623.023 (Nov 2017). Does it make a difference that I'm a Sprint service, as in using OPR1 vs OPR3?
TonikJDK said:
Then boot to TWRP and root it. Skip installing TWRP, too many hassles on this phone.
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So fastboot into TWRP img everytime I want to flash a custom ROM?
TonikJDK said:
FYI, on the January update SuperSU no longer works, you will need to root with Magisk.
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January update of SuperSU or the OTA? I was under the impression Magisk couldn't be flashed on stock kernels, I'm guessing this changed?
Chance Ill said:
To make your life even more simplicit, you can use Skipsoft Toolkit. Its automated and does all the heavy lifting for you. I have TWRP install without any issue.
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I will try this. Between yours and Tonik's advice, one of these is bound to work, right?
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So you're saying grab the Full OTA? Should I start with the last month before the version I'm on? Currently on OPR1.170623.023 (Nov 2017). Does it make a difference that I'm a Sprint service, as in using OPR1 vs OPR3?
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So fastboot into TWRP img everytime I want to flash a custom ROM?
January update of SuperSU or the OTA? I was under the impression Magisk couldn't be flashed on stock kernels, I'm guessing this changed?
I will try this. Between yours and Tonik's advice, one of these is bound to work, right?[/QUOTE]
2 different methods, same result. Make sure to thoroughly follow instructions with whatever method you try and you'll be fine.
vestaviajag said:
So you're saying grab the Full OTA? Should I start with the last month before the version I'm on? Currently on OPR1.170623.023 (Nov 2017). Does it make a difference that I'm a Sprint service, as in using OPR1 vs OPR3?
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So fastboot into TWRP img everytime I want to flash a custom ROM?
January update of SuperSU or the OTA? I was under the impression Magisk couldn't be flashed on stock kernels, I'm guessing this changed?
I will try this. Between yours and Tonik's advice, one of these is bound to work, right?[/QUOTE]
I use the full image, after taking out the -w from this link. Since you are flashing the whole image you can just get the latest.
https://developers.google.com/android/images
I can't help you on ROMs, I don't do them. Are there any 8 ROMs for this phone?
But I would never flash anything on this phone without being near a computer. So I skip flashing TWRP. Just as easy to fastboot it.
SU is not being updated any more. So I mean the Google January update breaks SU. I have been using Magisk on stock for several months now. If you want to stick with SU you will need to flash December Google.
TonikJDK said:
So fastboot into TWRP img everytime I want to flash a custom ROM?
January update of SuperSU or the OTA? I was under the impression Magisk couldn't be flashed on stock kernels, I'm guessing this changed?
I will try this. Between yours and Tonik's advice, one of these is bound to work, right?
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I use the full image, after taking out the -w from this link. Since you are flashing the whole image you can just get the latest.
https://developers.google.com/android/images
I can't help you on ROMs, I don't do them. Are there any 8 ROMs for this phone?
But I would never flash anything on this phone without being near a computer. So I skip flashing TWRP. Just as easy to fastboot it.
SU is not being updated any more. So I mean the Google January update breaks SU. I have been using Magisk on stock for several months now. If you want to stick with SU you will need to flash December Google.[/QUOTE]
Hmmmm.......SU not being updated anymore? I've been using magisk for awhile now so I haven't been keeping up. What's your source?
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Hmmmm.......SU not being updated anymore? I've been using magisk for awhile now so I haven't been keeping up. What's your source?
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SU beta thread, Chainfire announced he is no longer involved at all. He stopped by a few days ago, got rather upset at some of the posts. We have not heard a word from the new owners in two years.....
TonikJDK said:
SU beta thread, Chainfire announced he is no longer involved at all. He stopped by a few days ago, got rather upset at some of the posts. We have not heard a word from the new owners in two years.....
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Oh ok. I do remember coming across Chainfire's announcement awhile ago but was unaware that the new owners hadn't been active with the community. That's disappointing to say the least.
Chance Ill said:
To make your life even more simplicit, you can use Skipsoft Toolkit. Its automated and does all the heavy lifting for you. I have TWRP install without any issue.
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Tried this, for some reason wouldn't work. Tried the TWRP and it wouldn't due to OpenSourceScript or something. Then tried rooting and installing busybox, it wouldn't do this either. It attempted to flash it to sd card, another place, and finally in the right storage for this device, and it wouldn't for some error. No specifics on the error were given.
TonikJDK said:
I use the full image, after taking out the -w from this link. Since you are flashing the whole image you can just get the latest.
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Tried this next, removed the -w, and used flash-all in fastboot. This worked, however after I upgraded to 8.1 OPM1, I left it alone. Will try again tonight to root, and attempt flashing magisk for the first time.
Thanks for all the advice!