Zenfone 2 Deluxe ZE551ML questions - ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Am getting a Zenfone 2 Deluxe. Have always used Samsung phones in the past, always rooted and also used to flashing ROMS, recoveries.
However Asus is new for me so I would just like to ask what are the first steps I need to take :
1) Should I first update through OTA? Or through PC? Where can I download the update?
2) What is the best way to root?
3) Is it okay to stick to stock recovery or is it better to flash TWRP or CWM?
4) What is bootloader unlocking? Is this necessary?

I came from Samsung too and let me tell you this phone has issues. I wouldn't root it until I made sure things are working right. It has a serious issue with the default SMS app that won't allow you to send MMS pictures through it. Voicemails get delayed and you dont get text sometimes. if you google "zenfone 2 mms not supported on sim 2" you'll see people have this issue. I have called Asus and their techs don't understand English too well and they have no answer. they gave me a case number and promised to get back to me and never have.
I have installed the latest firmware, did the factory reset and nothing changed. I'm running the stock rom so I can't tell you if another rom would fix this issue. the camera is terrible for a 13 mp not even close to the Samsung 8 mp. I really wish I had never bought this phone now, I've had other Asus products in the past with good luck, but their phone, no way.

The camera really isn't bad at all. It takes some great shots...what issues are you having that the camera sucks so bad? @Chocketbear

creepinm3 said:
The camera really isn't bad at all. It takes some great shots...what issues are you having that the camera sucks so bad? @Chocketbear
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Not saying it's useless, but it gets grainy when you zoom in on a photo you take. my 8mp galaxy S3 is a way better camera. but to me if you're boasting a 13 mp camera, it had better take some really crisp shots. notice you live in Florida too...I'm in the Tampa area and let me tell you we are getting screwed out of out nice cool weather, this hot crap blows man!

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So worth it?

I have one reserved to pick up in my local store now but not sure if its worth it when I got a Galaxy S2 and a iPhone 4S.
The screen is what interests me mostly but no idea how better that is compared to the two phones I have and heard about hardly any apps work on ICS yet e.g Facebook and so on.
Anyone who owns one would you say its worth it or stick to the two phones I have?
recklesslife85 said:
I have one reserved to pick up in my local store now but not sure if its worth it when I got a Galaxy S2 and a iPhone 4S.
The screen is what interests me mostly but no idea how better that is compared to the two phones I have and heard about hardly any apps work on ICS yet e.g Facebook and so on.
Anyone who owns one would you say its worth it or stick to the two phones I have?
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I cant talk for anyone else but myself in this regard. I have had my GN for about 24 hours now and have to say its the most amazing phone I have ever owned. Colours are rich and vibrant. Camera is fast as hell and yet still manages to focus. 5MP is more than enough for a camera, if I want to take professional shots then I will take my 16MP DSLR out but the majority of shots taken with phones are for social networking sites which resizes and compresses the image anyway so it doesnt matter. Speed is smooth as running a hot knife through butter and pretty much every program that I had running on Gingerbread works on this phone. The Tegra2 optimised games obviously wont work (apart from Guerilla Bob which works great) but I think I have installed about 60 apps and games since yesterday and only 3 or 4 havent worked. Facebook and Skype both work on my phone, even video calling works .
The main problems so far are satnavs (closes or stays black) and video players. I will try a few more satnavs and report back. Video players either stop running or wont install but that will soon be sorted so I have no worrys there.
I havent noticed any of the software problems that people are reporting but with a Nexus you HAVE TO REMEMBER that it is the first phone to have the latest software and its inevitable that there will be a few bugs to start with. Thats what updates are for and they will be ironed out soon enough. Developers will quickly update there apps for compatability with ICS and new apps will be made to enhance this beautiful screen.
If you have any more questions please ask away but I would definitely recommend getting it
Mark.
mskip said:
I cant talk for anyone else but myself in this regard. I have had my GN for about 24 hours now and have to say its the most amazing phone I have ever owned. Colours are rich and vibrant. Camera is fast as hell and yet still manages to focus. 5MP is more than enough for a camera, if I want to take professional shots then I will take my 16MP DSLR out but the majority of shots taken with phones are for social networking sites which resizes and compresses the image anyway so it doesnt matter. Speed is smooth as running a hot knife through butter and pretty much every program that I had running on Gingerbread works on this phone. The Tegra2 optimised games obviously wont work (apart from Guerilla Bob which works great) but I think I have installed about 60 apps and games since yesterday and only 3 or 4 havent worked. Facebook and Skype both work on my phone, even video calling works .
The main problems so far are satnavs (closes or stays black) and video players. I will try a few more satnavs and report back. Video players either stop running or wont install but that will soon be sorted so I have no worrys there.
I havent noticed any of the software problems that people are reporting but with a Nexus you HAVE TO REMEMBER that it is the first phone to have the latest software and its inevitable that there will be a few bugs to start with. Thats what updates are for and they will be ironed out soon enough. Developers will quickly update there apps for compatability with ICS and new apps will be made to enhance this beautiful screen.
If you have any more questions please ask away but I would definitely recommend getting it
Mark.
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Thanks for the reply Mark. I love my GS2 and iPhone4s but the screen on the GN just says buy me or im just stupid with money.
Whats the battery life like?
recklesslife85 said:
Thanks for the reply Mark. I love my GS2 and iPhone4s but the screen on the GN just says buy me or im just stupid with money.
Whats the battery life like?
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Well as I have only had the phone a day I cant comment about battery life at all as its been on charge pretty much the whole time. I like to give new phones a good days charge to make sure its maximum benefit from the first charge. Will know more about that after about a week when it starts to settle down into normal life.
The screen IS simply amazing. Its beautifully sharp especially when playing back 720p movies and its got the same coating on as the iphone to resist finger prints so it doesnt get that dirty look as quickly as other phones.
Mark.
Would you be kind enough to install -
https://market.android.com/details?...251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5taWtlcnNtaWNyb3MuZm0iXQ..
Or something similar & let us know if an FM Radio app works?
Ta
Hi Mark, how is the GPS fix time and accuracy compared to, e.g., your HD2? I've heard Samsung quite suck at the GPS department. Does this barometer sensor really helps improving the GPS fix speed like Google developers explained? Thanks.
Thanks mark that is good to know. I would like to switch my gs2 for nexus. Is nexus as smooth in web browsing and overall as gs2?
Could you mesure gps precision with gps test app?
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luffyp said:
Hi Mark, how is the GPS fix time and accuracy compared to, e.g., your HD2? I've heard Samsung quite suck at the GPS department. Does this barometer sensor really helps improving the GPS fix speed like Google developers explained? Thanks.
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Google Nav couldn't get a lock first time I used it. turned it off and back on and it locked quite quickly then.
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recklesslife85 said:
Thanks for the reply Mark. I love my GS2 and iPhone4s but the screen on the GN just says buy me or im just stupid with money.
Whats the battery life like?
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The screens awesome, much better than the retina display IMO as its bigger with equivalent resolution and much better blacks because of the SAMOLED. Having to post on my sister-in-laws iPad as my nephews playing shadowrun on it and I can't get him off it.
Mark thank you and I took the plunge and picked one up.
Firstly amazing, the screen is mind blowing playing HD videos for a phone. Secondly ICS is miles ahead of Gingerbread. Can't speak highly enough of it experience wise so far.
Google nailed it with ICS.
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Would you be kind enough to install -
https://market.android.com/details?...251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5taWtlcnNtaWNyb3MuZm0iXQ..
Or something similar & let us know if an FM Radio app works?
Ta
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The Radio doesnt work it just comes up with a message (after the app is run) saying:
Sorry! Compatible FM Chip not found...
Fm: BC Sh:1 Su:0 Bt:1 Ht:0 H2:0 Mo: BCU
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Mark.
recklesslife85 said:
Mark thank you and I took the plunge and picked one up.
Firstly amazing, the screen is mind blowing playing HD videos for a phone. Secondly ICS is miles ahead of Gingerbread. Can't speak highly enough of it experience wise so far.
Google nailed it with ICS.
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Impulsiveness is the best way to go and just remember it can only get better once its been optimised and overclocked
Mark.
Please see if Spirit FM Radio app works!
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Please see if Spirit FM Radio app works!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19498339&postcount=10
mskip said:
The Radio doesnt work it just comes up with a message (after the app is run) saying:
Mark.
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Many thanks for trying that for me.
I'm starting to get disappointed with the Nexus & I haven't bagged myself one yet.
No FM Radio & No capabilities to use one
No SD Card
Google Search On Every Screen - I Hate It & Never Use It
Looks like there are volume problems
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19498339&postcount=10
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Darn it...
Does this mean the app doesn't support the phones FM chip or is it completely absent?

Why the huawei ascend p1 sucks!

This phone is probably one of the worst phones I have ever had, When I first looked at it I though it was slick had a nice screen, good camera,dual mikes, and HDMI out and was not a bad phone, what a silly mistake that was, This phone is a complete and utter PITA ! And this is the list of reasons why I regret this phone and went back to my s2 and why the Ascend p1 is going Asap !
1: This phone get Hot , I don't just mean warm I mean HOT HOT HOT ! You could keep your coffee warm on it ! It sometimes gets so hot you have to turn it off for fear it may damage the camera ! How good is that? The only way to stop it is to lower the clock speed to 1200 which kind of defeats the point ! My old s2 can be working it bum off and it never gets that hot ! Huawei major fail no 1
2: The volume sound quality and volume with some apps is pathetic, apparently you have to turn the radio on and turn the volume down and sometimes it fixes it !! I mean WTF ???? WHAT KIND OF CRAP ARE THEY PUMPING OUT OVER THERE? FAIL No 2 !
3.The signal ! up down.... up down..... up down ....Its like a working girls panties, Never known nothing like ! ..Fail No3
4. Internet keeps disconnecting (CRAP ROM ) Refer to point 2
5.. Updating Firmware to stock is a complete joke! All you get is version verify fail over and over no matter what build.prop you use or recovery you install, I mean whos idea was that? they should be arrested for crimes against humanity and put on trial ...Fail no5
6: no native gsm video calling, you have to use a third party app, and that's a big fail, s2 straight out the box video calling, if your on giffgaff in the uk that's free video calling, could be a deal breaker ..
7: No jellybean official update.. THAT IS A BIG FAIL ! UK Networks are chucking these out 2 a penny at the moment , my advice choose something else !
Its redeeming features are a good screen and not a bad battery life for its size and its slim and that is it ! I will never buy a phone made in china again, the best phone ever made in china was the blade which I have a oled version and its still working and reliable now, never had a problem, no phone can compete with it on price and quality and more important reliability and stability !

			
				
Also uses fake ARM cortex a9 cpu(cortext a9) and fakePowerVR sgx540(povervr sgx540) so iI guess that's why it sucks. Maybe get a case for it so you don't get your hands burnt
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Also uses fake ARM cortex a9 cpu(cortext a9) and fakePowerVR sgx540(povervr sgx540) so iI guess that's why it sucks. Maybe get a case for it so you don't get your hands burnt
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So GSMarena says Cortext A9 but they mean Cortex A9.P1 has OMAP 4460 chipset, same what gnex got, so its not fake...
Take it back, and ask for a replacement. I've didn't experienced any of these 7 issues, only the video calling thing. I don't think it's important, but I can use the Google Video Chat, which is good enough for me.
Sorry for my bad english.
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This phone is probably one of the worst phones I have ever had, When I first looked at it I though it was slick had a nice screen, good camera,dual mikes, and HDMI out and was not a bad phone, what a silly mistake that was, This phone is a complete and utter PITA ! And this is the list of reasons why I regret this phone and went back to my s2 and why the Ascend p1 is going Asap !
1: This phone get Hot , I don't just mean warm I mean HOT HOT HOT ! You could keep your coffee warm on it ! It sometimes gets so hot you have to turn it off for fear it may damage the camera ! How good is that? The only way to stop it is to lower the clock speed to 1200 which kind of defeats the point ! My old s2 can be working it bum off and it never gets that hot ! Huawei major fail no 1
2: The volume sound quality and volume with some apps is pathetic, apparently you have to turn the radio on and turn the volume down and sometimes it fixes it !! I mean WTF ???? WHAT KIND OF CRAP ARE THEY PUMPING OUT OVER THERE? FAIL No 2 !
3.The signal ! up down.... up down..... up down ....Its like a working girls panties, Never known nothing like ! ..Fail No3
4. Internet keeps disconnecting (CRAP ROM ) Refer to point 2
5.. Updating Firmware to stock is a complete joke! All you get is version verify fail over and over no matter what build.prop you use or recovery you install, I mean whos idea was that? they should be arrested for crimes against humanity and put on trial ...Fail no5
6: no native gsm video calling, you have to use a third party app, and that's a big fail, s2 straight out the box video calling, if your on giffgaff in the uk that's free video calling, could be a deal breaker ..
7: No jellybean official update.. THAT IS A BIG FAIL ! UK Networks are chucking these out 2 a penny at the moment , my advice choose something else !
Its redeeming features are a good screen and not a bad battery life for its size and its slim and that is it ! I will never buy a phone made in china again, the best phone ever made in china was the blade which I have a oled version and its still working and reliable now, never had a problem, no phone can compete with it on price and quality and more important reliability and stability !
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Best considering spec and price and bad in terms of official support
For me it's one of the best phones I've ever had.. I play games(heavy) on my p1 and they're very smooth!
I use heavy apps all the time and around 20+ apps are open in the background!
My phone gets warm like all other phones, not so HOT, I've experienced it just once in 2 years and that was just once. No complains on this
My U9200 is the best phone ever!
Jelly bean is finally out but hey, who cares when you've got xda? I'm using kitkat now and it's just so awesome!
One of the greatest devices buddy, get yourself a replacement soon
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I am using it for more than 6 months music and camera were awesome in this machine. High quality videos were playing without lag in fast scrolling
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Different people different opinions. However no one answered if the things that OP wrote were true?
Andrej82 said:
Different people different opinions. However no one answered if the things that OP wrote were true?
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None of them are true the phone is great, maybe he just got a defective piece. I still have this phone and its the best phone I've ever used. I would suggest this phone to anyone wanting to buy a new device
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Little rant to get it out of my chest...

Disclaimer: This is rant, a civilized one, if you disagree with me, you are welcome to illustrate me but offenses are not appreciated.
This phone is great, but it refuses to be acceptable as a daily driver.
Developers are the best people in the world, they do what they do with no return at all sometimes, but the software (the lack of a good kernel base) makes it really hard to enjoy. I could never get more than 4.5 hours of SOT on any ROM, whereas stock would give me at least 5.5; however stock software is a bad joke for the Android base and the camera output is nerve wracking...
The CDLA headphones are a must, no one likes the dongle and it seems that (due to broken kernel) no dev was able to figure out this one (clarifying again that I don't blame them). So my options are to get used to carry the dongle or to the crack and pop from the CDLA ones... hmmmmmm......
I see the exact same story as with the Amazon phone, on its time, the Amazon phone had a really good thing going here in XDA, but the bootloader was never unlocked and the momentum was lost. I had to let go on my Fire phone....
For the LePro3, many great options are at hand at the same price, I'm looking heavily right now at the LG G5 from the $200 custom rom on eBay, WAY BETTER camera (like 10X times better), about the same battery life if you compare custom ROM of LePro3 vs stock of LG G5, and I have to admit that although I dislike LG's interface, it is tolerable.
Also, the LeEco servers (including the one that supports OTAs) has been down for at least 3 days (that I have tried myself), like seriously, we know the company is nearly in bankruptcy although still having customer support working, but the fact that security updates have halted and servers are down, tells me that there is something wrong going on.
At $200 dlls that I got the phone for, it is still not worth it for *me*.
My Moto Z play was $450 with a hasselblad camera mod that I was able to sell to get $100 in return, so for $350, I would still take yet another Moto Z Play at the current price, with way lower specifications, than taking a LePro3 for $200.
Help yourself and download these apps
Power Toggles
ACDisplay
Simple Control
Fingerprint Quick Action
Pixel Launcher
Modify the DPI to 300 via ADB
Download Google Camera (2.7) , Phone, Contacts etc from APKMirror
I am enjoying all the benefits from stock ROM plus emulated stock Android experience. =D
I bought this phone at what I thought was a steal for the hardware I was getting. I knew the company was unknown in the US and would likely not support the phone for long (if at all). I've flashed many Roms and played with this phone more than any other than perhaps my Nexus 6. Its a great phone overall with pretty decent developer support. I regret nothing.
Jose-MXL said:
Disclaimer: This is rant, a civilized one, if you disagree with me, you are welcome to illustrate me but offenses are not appreciated.
This phone is great, but it refuses to be acceptable as a daily driver.
Developers are the best people in the world, they do what they do with no return at all sometimes, but the software (the lack of a good kernel base) makes it really hard to enjoy. I could never get more than 4.5 hours of SOT on any ROM, whereas stock would give me at least 5.5; however stock software is a bad joke for the Android base and the camera output is nerve wracking...
The CDLA headphones are a must, no one likes the dongle and it seems that (due to broken kernel) no dev was able to figure out this one (clarifying again that I don't blame them). So my options are to get used to carry the dongle or to the crack and pop from the CDLA ones... hmmmmmm......
I see the exact same story as with the Amazon phone, on its time, the Amazon phone had a really good thing going here in XDA, but the bootloader was never unlocked and the momentum was lost. I had to let go on my Fire phone....
For the LePro3, many great options are at hand at the same price, I'm looking heavily right now at the LG G5 from the $200 custom rom on eBay, WAY BETTER camera (like 10X times better), about the same battery life if you compare custom ROM of LePro3 vs stock of LG G5, and I have to admit that although I dislike LG's interface, it is tolerable.
Also, the LeEco servers (including the one that supports OTAs) has been down for at least 3 days (that I have tried myself), like seriously, we know the company is nearly in bankruptcy although still having customer support working, but the fact that security updates have halted and servers are down, tells me that there is something wrong going on.
At $200 dlls that I got the phone for, it is still not worth it for *me*.
My Moto Z play was $450 with a hasselblad camera mod that I was able to sell to get $100 in return, so for $350, I would still take yet another Moto Z Play at the current price, with way lower specifications, than taking a LePro3 for $200.
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I bought this phone at what I thought was a steal for the hardware I was getting. I knew the company was unknown in the US and would likely not support the phone for long (if at all). I've flashed many Roms and played with this phone more than any other than perhaps my Nexus 6. Its a great phone overall with pretty decent developer support. I regret nothing.
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I have to agree with rivethead23 I got the Pro 3 and immediately flashed the Turbo Destroyer rom on it and have never had any regrets
I also bought an LG G6 and I found it was no upgrade to the Pro 3 and ended up returning it.
My advice is to Flash the Turbo EUI 21S v20 rom and Nova launcher with Nova Google companion and you get the best experience from this device
rivethead23 said:
I bought this phone at what I thought was a steal for the hardware I was getting. I knew the company was unknown in the US and would likely not support the phone for long (if at all). I've flashed many Roms and played with this phone more than any other than perhaps my Nexus 6. Its a great phone overall with pretty decent developer support. I regret nothing.
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Pretty much this.
I'm using the phone on stock 26s, pretty heavily customized though: Magisk, Xposed, Viper, GravityBox, Tasker, stock android/Google apps like Dialer Contact Messages Calendar Keep Hangout Gmail etc., Nova Launcher with companion, PlayerPro and VLC, Brave browser... I removed all Chinese bloatware, and stock apps I don't need anymore like Contact, Message, Music, Video, Browser, Launcher, LIVE, lots of LeEco apps, etc. Disabled all stock extra memory optimizations to let Android deal with memory. Splash and bootanim without Chinese. Etc.
It works really great, battery is still really good (I often have 5 or 5.5 hours SoT at the end of the day), I customized a lot of things to make it exactly how I wanted it. So far, the best device I owned, and one of the cheapest...
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Pretty much this.
I'm using the phone on stock 26s, pretty heavily customized though: Magisk, Xposed, Viper, GravityBox, Tasker, stock android/Google apps like Dialer Contact Messages Calendar Keep Hangout Gmail etc., Nova Launcher with companion, PlayerPro and VLC, Brave browser... I removed all Chinese bloatware, and stock apps I don't need anymore like Contact, Message, Music, Video, Browser, Launcher, LIVE, lots of LeEco apps, etc. Disabled all stock extra memory optimizations to let Android deal with memory. Splash and bootanim without Chinese. Etc.
It works really great, battery is still really good (I often have 5 or 5.5 hours SoT at the end of the day), I customized a lot of things to make it exactly how I wanted it. So far, the best device I owned, and one of the cheapest...
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Is 26s an official update? I've only received 21s ota on my x727
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Is 26s an official update? I've only received 21s ota on my x727
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It's the latest Chinese stock ROM for x720.
ALSO RANT:
Well the issue is with android itself, there is no real AOSP phone, i don't get why manufaturers just don't put AOSP on phone and be done with it, i guess target for android phones are geeks, at least this kind of android phones. I wanted dual sim phone, but now i think i will manage some woraround and go ios, as bad as it is, OS is much more polished and unified.
Even Moto with almost stock android still does not get direct google updates, it is just bad design.
BTW i use pro3 as daily, i get 8 + hours SOT with stock firmare, i managed to get ACR to work quite good, DND to work quite good, but still, default apps, like browser does not work, google integration is crap, even with launcher 3, missing pulldown is a joke and google services crash quite often so ... meh, but still better then my gs4 with new battery and lineage
Oh and also the ambient light sensors sets screen too dim for me at night, until now I had opposite problem with all the other phones i had.
I also have galaxy s7 at hand to use and in my opinion samsung android is even worse.
The main issue is there is really no Android OS, no phone with AOSP, which is only real Android OS, only ****ton of phones with more or less molested OS.
BTW my budget was 1100usd for a phone, i still chose pro3 and I still think, despite it's flaws, for me, it is best choice, which is sad, but it is reality, we can't change it, reality is reality. I will try z2 force with battery pack if they sell it officially in Czech, but I don't expect much.
Oh my I thought I was the only one with the headphone issue
Hmm my Le Pro 3 is coming soon... But I'm more likely to just sell It while it's new and make some $$$ of it. Seeing this rants and all... AOSP/lineage is a must for me, same as Oreo.
Just gonna buy OP5 to replace my Bacon. Maybe that jelly pentile so not exactly FHD, POS display won't be so bad...
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Hmm my Le Pro 3 is coming soon... But I'm more likely to just sell It while it's new and make some $$$ of it. Seeing this rants and all... AOSP/lineage is a must for me, same as Oreo.
Just gonna buy OP5 to replace my Bacon. Maybe that jelly pentile so not exactly FHD, POS display won't be so bad...
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These rants are about things that we would like to have on the device and are inevitable, like the fact that we knew that there was no headphone jack and that the CDLA headphones are not perfect on custom software, we knew it and still took the chance, not the phone or dev's fault.
Other than that, the phone is amazing, you should give it a go, I don't think you can get too much money out of it, this is the wrong phone to re-sell for higher.
Also, you have a very specific example from other people in this thread, which is, you might like stock software which gives you the best battery life for the device.
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These rants are about things that we would like to have on the device and are inevitable, like the fact that we knew that there was no headphone jack and that the CDLA headphones are not perfect on custom software, we knew it and still took the chance, not the phone or dev's fault.
Other than that, the phone is amazing, you should give it a go, I don't think you can get too much money out of it, this is the wrong phone to re-sell for higher.
Also, you have a very specific example from other people in this thread, which is, you might like stock software which gives you the best battery life for the device.
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I pretty OK with using adapter, no problem with me. I ordered it from China so when it gets to Europe it is worth more. I certainly would not lose money on it.
The only things that worry me are uncertain future of Oreo on this device and overall stability. I currently manage over 4 hours SOT with my OnePlus One.... Why this thing with 4070 Mah (thousand f-ing more) does 4.5 H or slightly more ? With newer SoC, screen etc. Stock software is a no-go for me. Android 6.0 is a no-go for me. So I rely on custom ROMs and dev support. At least dev support here is great!
Coming from Nexus and Nexus 5x, I was used to having so many roms and kernels. Getting LP3 was a big big jump and I did not like it in early days when no roms were available.
Now with more than enough roms and solid kernels, I do not miss anything. Omni Rom gives me 9 hrs of screen on time for my usage. It does not feel/act different than roms I used before.
The only problem was the camera performance. But with Google Camera port, that is no longer a problem now.

Worth to buy an S9 to use LOS?

Hi all! It's time to change my old Nexus 5 and I'm looking to buy an OP6 or a S9 due to its smaller dimensions.
Thing is I don't like Samsung's personalizations as I heard it slows down very quickly.
Here in Italy I could get an used S9 for 400€. Is it worth to get it with the specific intent of using it only with LineageOS? How does it perform and what am I going to miss from stock android?
Thank you!
Jeeza said:
Hi all! It's time to change my old Nexus 5 and I'm looking to buy an OP6 or a S9 due to its smaller dimensions.
Thing is I don't like Samsung's personalizations as I heard it slows down very quickly.
Here in Italy I could get an used S9 for 400€. Is it worth to get it with the specific intent of using it only with LineageOS? How does it perform and what am I going to miss from stock android?
Thank you!
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Performance wise, S9 performs really well upto this point. I got it since launch and there were only minor drawbacks in the launcher, which were easily removed by installing pixel launcher, and now everything feels smooth. I dont think there is a need for using LOS rom just for speed because you'll lose the great features of samsung.
kyooohei08 said:
Performance wise, S9 performs really well upto this point. I got it since launch and there were only minor drawbacks in the launcher, which were easily removed by installing pixel launcher, and now everything feels smooth. I dont think there is a need for using LOS rom just for speed because you'll lose the great features of samsung.
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Which features you think I would miss the most?
Jeeza said:
Which features you think I would miss the most?
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The features from your camera, I dont think gcam camera is any better than samsung stock. You would also lose any Knox related apps such as secure folder, samsung pass, etc. For me, I dont think there is a need to root now, atleast when it is still receiving software updates .
kyooohei08 said:
The features from your camera, I dont think gcam camera is any better than samsung stock. You would also lose any Knox related apps such as secure folder, samsung pass, etc. For me, I dont think there is a need to root now, atleast when it is still receiving software updates .
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are u kidding? GCam is way better than samsung stock , i have s9 and Gcam installed..i know what i am talking about
Simion Catalin said:
are u kidding? GCam is way better than samsung stock , i have s9 and Gcam installed..i know what i am talking about
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No you don't. Samsung's proprietary image libraries and enhancements are better than any gcam port will achieve.
Not saying gcam is bad but stock is quite a bit better on Samsung Experience compared to gcam.
also to OP: Note you probably won't be able to use the variable apeture OR the iris scanner to unlock your phone. Also as much of a meme as it is VoLTE also isn't supported on LOS.
iiyn said:
No you don't. Samsung's proprietary image libraries and enhancements are better than any gcam port will achieve.
Not saying gcam is bad but stock is quite a bit better on Samsung Experience compared to gcam.
also to OP: Note you probably won't be able to use the variable apeture OR the iris scanner to unlock your phone. Also as much of a meme as it is VoLTE also isn't supported on LOS.
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so..u are saying that my eyes are ****ed up if i see that photos taken with Gcam are better in every way ..and the eyes of many others see the same results...i don`t know man...maybe is something wrong with your eyes....just saying
Simion Catalin said:
so..u are saying that my eyes are ****ed up if i see that photos taken with Gcam are better in every way ..and the eyes of many others see the same results...i don`t know man...maybe is something wrong with your eyes....just saying
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Yeah, pretty much. Even inside the GCam thread for the s9 there are plenty of people saying it's not as good as stock. It's one of the reasons why I haven't jumped ship from Samsung Experience yet.
Also, more vibrant color != better photos. They might LOOK better but what I look for in a smartphone camera is color accuracy. If you like saturated hdr+ overblown shots so be it, to each their own.
When i bought the S8, I was hoping that the dev comunity could after some month port an AOSP rom on it but nothing stable really happend. It's a shame because I always prefered stock roms. Then the s9 came with de Treble project and this was for me the best feature that could ever been done.
You have everything that you could wish :
- Sweet design of the galaxy serie with the infinit display and for me the most beautifull overall body design (without the f*****g notch)
- Very great battery life (it easily last the day without have to charge during the day)
- The best performances, smoothness.
- No bugs at all
I always said that the galaxy series had the most complete phones in the market. But TouchWizz was the point where i always been frustrated about. With LOS, i'm ready to say that the S9 is probably the best phone you can get on the market.
Btw, don't worry about the camera's quality. It's still good even whitout samsung's camera framework.
Peace !
Simion Catalin said:
are u kidding? GCam is way better than samsung stock , i have s9 and Gcam installed..i know what i am talking about
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The GCam Im talking about is the one from gapps, not the gcam ported from pixel 2 which has HDR+ capability. I agree GCam with hdr+ is superior when it comes to contrast and details, but you dont get it when you are in LOS. That's what Im referring to.

November Update? How did you guys feel about it?

Just dated to the November update. Whats you guys feedback on it? i just got mine installed....touch and other fixes...lets see.
Since the update, my camera button on the lock screen doesn't work correctly. It does open the camera, but it's under the lock screen so I still have to unlock the phone to take a picture.
Is it just me, or does anyone else have this issue now?
Edit: Really weird. It wasn't working correctly at all, even after a restart. Tried to show my wife what I was talking about because she wasn't having the same issue and it started working. Haven't had a problem with it since.
I have not gotten the update yet. I'm on AT&T. Don't know if that is the reason.
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Youtube TV still has orientation issue with spanning video. Video will not stay in horizontal orientation and would flip to vertical. I have to slightly rotate screen to keep view from flipping orientation. Very annoying.
Camera improvements are pretty noticeable in my opinion
Guys, anyone knows how to manually update our phone with unlocked bootloader? Thank you in advance.
I think the updates are a nice step in the right direction but I have found more issues with the camera when trying to use it. Swapping to the rear camera is not as smooth as it was before (I'm using smooth generously). The swipe away gestures are still not great, after maybe 6-9 months of updates it won't feel so beta to me? Using my Pixel 4XL or iPhone seems so much better and polished, hope M/S will put the work in needed to the software.
Birdsfan said:
I think the updates are a nice step in the right direction but I have found more issues with the camera when trying to use it. Swapping to the rear camera is not as smooth as it was before (I'm using smooth generously). The swipe away gestures are still not great, after maybe 6-9 months of updates it won't feel so beta to me? Using my Pixel 4XL or iPhone seems so much better and polished, hope M/S will put the work in needed to the software.
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so phone is okay. but man...when its on the table...with TWO gyros...it should know what orientation i have it at....i just dont get it. So far phones running a trillion times better to be honest. Android 11 i think will truly unlock the phones potential off the rip.... 2021 lets go....
Any December update? I thought I saw somewhere that Microsoft promised monthly updates.

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