Hello, so I'm going to be receiving my HTC One M9 tommorrow morning, and I was hoping the XDA community could help me with some fundemental questions regarding my new phone.
So, first off, this is a Verizon version, but I'm 95% certain that it comes factory unlocked. HTC6535LVWSG. I hear some people have issues rooting/S-OFFing the Verizon version (VZW at least, but I don't think mine is), but if it's not that version (or already unlocked, for that matter), does that mean that I will be able to load up any recovery from here? Assuming that I've gotten a recovery installed (my past phone was an EVO 3D, which I've tinkered quite a bit with), will I be able to use ROMs posted here? Or will I need to use specially made Verizon ROMs?
All of that aside, do you know where I can find the Marshmellow RUU that I heard just came out for the M9? As mentioned in the earlier paragraph, will I need a special GSM version for it?
EDIT: I found the news post at HTC, I'm assuming that it would work for any M9.
Thanks for anyone who responds!
Dino10or said:
Hello, so I'm going to be receiving my HTC One M9 tommorrow morning, and I was hoping the XDA community could help me with some fundemental questions regarding my new phone.
So, first off, this is a Verizon version, but I'm 95% certain that it comes factory unlocked. HTC6535LVWSG. I hear some people have issues rooting/S-OFFing the Verizon version (VZW at least, but I don't think mine is), but if it's not that version (or already unlocked, for that matter), does that mean that I will be able to load up any recovery from here? Assuming that I've gotten a recovery installed (my past phone was an EVO 3D, which I've tinkered quite a bit with), will I be able to use ROMs posted here? Or will I need to use specially made Verizon ROMs?
All of that aside, do you know where I can find the Marshmellow RUU that I heard just came out for the M9? As mentioned in the earlier paragraph, will I need a special GSM version for it?
EDIT: I found the news post at HTC, I'm assuming that it would work for any M9.
Thanks for anyone who responds!
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NO! SLOW DOWN!
If you get a Verizon M9 do not flash anything!! Unless its specifically for the Verizon M9 or the developer of the ROM/Kernel states it will work with CDMA or Verizon M9's.
As of right now only the GSM Marshmallow update is out. Do not flash this RUU/update on a Verizon M9. It's better if you start off by just looking around for Verizon M9 threads. Ask questions in other threads if that particular ROM or file will work on a Verizon M9 or better yet read through most if not all the posts in those threads because more often than not someone in your shoes has already asked the same question.
But if you received a locked/S-ON device do not update/change anything on that phone until you've freshen up on whether or not S-OFF/Rooting is available for the software that comes already on it. It'll save you the headache of playing around with a new phone and it auto updates now your stuck without S-OFF.
Also don't ask questions in "General" that's what the Q&A section is for.
Congratulations! I think you'll be pleased with the M9.
Diaclaimer: I'm a hobbyist and not an expert - you should do some reading of threads and
research before attempting to hack your phone.
A few things:
- you may find better help in the Verizon HTC M9 forums (http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-one-m9)
- S-OFF is currently only possible on Verizon's variant of the M9 via a Java Clip. They're expensive, but there are fellow XDA members who own them and are willing to use theirs on your phone, usually for a reasonable fee
- until your bootloader is unlocked (pretty sure that your phone will NOT come that way - Verizon is not user-friendly) or you are S-OFF, you will not be able to flash a custom anything (recovery or ROM). Attempting to do so may render your phone unusable.
- Marshmallow has been released officially for the developer/unlocked variant of the M9, which is GSM-only. The Verizon variant is CDMA; the RUU will fail to install on your device.
Hope this is helpful. You probably have a bit more effort to go through to be able to hack your phone, but it's very doable and worth the effort. The M9 is a solid device and all the moreso once you have S-OFF (or an unlocked bootloader) and root.
Unfortunately, UPS Next Day Air has failed me, with yet another delay, so I won't have the phone today. :v
I know it's already paid off, and I'm pretty sure it's factory unlocked. What determines if it's a VWZ version or not? How does this affect my modding processes? I hear of several people who can do stuff to "non-VWZ" versions.
dottat said:
Not for the vzw m9. Big difference is the versions they can do already can use htc dev to bootloader unlock and root. Vzw is another can of worms because we need a root exploit before anything can happen.
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So, I got the phone today. It was supposed to be delayed but I guess they managed to deliver it! I have to go, so the phone is gonna sit here for a couple hours, but it can boot into the bootloader (I'm not sure if this is a sign that it can be unlocked, but we'll see, I guess.)
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So, I got the phone today. It was supposed to be delayed but I guess they managed to deliver it! I have to go, so the phone is gonna sit here for a couple hours, but it can boot into the bootloader (I'm not sure if this is a sign that it can be unlocked, but we'll see, I guess.)
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Any phone can boot into the bootloader. To determine your phone's status, you'll need to look at the upper left corner when you are in bootloader mode: does it say 'unlocked' or 'locked'? Similarly, does it say 'S-ON' or 'S-OFF'?
First of all you should, in my opinion, deal with the differences of a CDSM to a GSM device in detail and read especially the Verizon specific threads in this forum very carefull.
Seconed to it you should pick up the full information about block based OTA politics, and the major changes regarding moddifications to Android 5.1.1. If never done before you should also read the basic threads abaut unlocking, rooting, fastboot as well as adb commands. If need for further help occurs it is hightly important to be able to explain when, where and assumingly why a problem/error occured.
Besides this have fun with your One M9!
HTCNerdYoda said:
First of all you should, in my opinion, deal with the differences of a CDSM to a GSM device in detail and read especially the Verizon specific threads in this forum very carefull.
Seconed to it you should pick up the full information about block based OTA politics, and the major changes regarding moddifications to Android 5.1.1. If never done before you should also read the basic threads abaut unlocking, rooting, fastboot as well as adb commands. If need for further help occurs it is hightly important to be able to explain when, where and assumingly why a problem/error occured.
Besides this have fun with your One M9!
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Ah, I know the ins and outs of adb and fastboot already, as I've had my fair share of working with the HTC bootloader-- however I just wanted to clarify some things that I had not previously known. Thanks for the advise, though.
Guys please, anyone can verify that the buttons (power and volume) are a bit 'down after a few months of use??
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Alright everyone, I did search for a similar topic before creating this thread, but I found none. If I missed it, please link me to it. Thanks!
So I'm about to trade my T-Mobile LG G3 for a T-Mobile HTC One M8. I'd like to convert it over to a GPE. Are there any specific things that I have to know about the device (software version etc.) before I make the trade?
For example, was there a recent software update that stopped us from being able to convert it into a GPE device?
Thanks in advance guys. I really appreciate it.
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Alright everyone, I did search for a similar topic before creating this thread, but I found none. If I missed it, please link me to it. Thanks!
So I'm about to trade my T-Mobile LG G3 for a T-Mobile HTC One M8. I'd like to convert it over to a GPE. Are there any specific things that I have to know about the device (software version etc.) before I make the trade?
For example, was there a recent software update that stopped us from being able to convert it into a GPE device?
Thanks in advance guys. I really appreciate it.
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Not sure about a software update preventing it. So long as you can achieve S-Off, I believe it can be converted. I did mine some time ago, found that I missed Sense 6 a lot and my signal strength was pretty low. Radios from GPE are compatible with T-Mobile LTE but the GPE system doesn't work as well with T-mobile signal. Even tried changing radios, no luck. I'd suggest trying a GPE rom that you can flash over the standard rom to see if you like it. Its much easier to flash a sense rom back to the phone than it is to convert a GPE'd phone back to sense.
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Not sure about a software update preventing it. So long as you can achieve S-Off, I believe it can be converted. I did mine some time ago, found that I missed Sense 6 a lot and my signal strength was pretty low. Radios from GPE are compatible with T-Mobile LTE but the GPE system doesn't work as well with T-mobile signal. Even tried changing radios, no luck. I'd suggest trying a GPE rom that you can flash over the standard rom to see if you like it. Its much easier to flash a sense rom back to the phone than it is to convert a GPE'd phone back to sense.
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Got it. If memory serves, you can go to the HTC site and request the bootloader be unlocked, correct? So as far as rooting and unlocking the bootloader, it's a walk in the park, no matter the software version, right?
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Got it. If memory serves, you can go to the HTC site and request the bootloader be unlocked, correct? So as far as rooting and unlocking the bootloader, it's a walk in the park, no matter the software version, right?
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Yes you can unlock the bootloader through HTCDEV. When you go through the process make sure to choose "all other devices" instead of One (M8). I had trouble with my code until I chose all other devices. Might be fixed by now. I believe to root you have to have S-Off which is only possible through Sunshine unless something has changed. Sunshine will cost you $25. There may be a method of rooting which will allow you bypass S-Off now. Haven't looked into it for a while.
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Yes you can unlock the bootloader through HTCDEV. When you go through the process make sure to choose "all other devices" instead of One (M8). I had trouble with my code until I chose all other devices. Might be fixed by now. I believe to root you have to have S-Off which is only possible through Sunshine unless something has changed. Sunshine will cost you $25. There may be a method of rooting which will allow you bypass S-Off now. Haven't looked into it for a while.
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Fantastic. You sir are the reason why XDA has such a great reputation. :good:
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Fantastic. You sir are the reason why XDA has such a great reputation. :good:
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Just doing my part, and trying my best. Most of all, I refuse to answer a question with "OMG this has been answered eleventy-million times!!! USE GOOGLE!!!" Not saying your question was answered before, just having a vent.
In case you're interested, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708589 is the thread I used to make my conversion and it worked exactly as they said it would. Just try a GPE rom first before you do the full conversion. I was sure I would like GPE much better than sense...and I was as wrong as I could be.
Ever since I got my m9's I have been a flashing fool! I absolutely love it. But I recently learned a trick to improve my reception so I decided I would share.
I live in a city and my reception should always be 5 bars but ever since I got my phones I was only getting 3 bars max regardless of firmware or rom. I know because I have flashed them all. I have a developers edition and an AT&T edition m9 and both phones got the same reception.
well about a month ago I just wanted to try an experiment so I took my att m9 and changed the cid and mid to match a tmoble version. I then flashed the 1.32 firmware and then ran the tmobile Ruu. As a result I then had a stock t-mobile edition m9. But for the first time I had full bars for my reception!
Naturally I then flashed twrp and put a cutom rom back on it but I had the volte and wifi calling along with full bars reception. So put I that observation in the back of my mind and carried on with my business.
Well recently the tmobile update came out and I just flashed the firmware package that sneakyghost (thanks btw for your firmware files) put up and updated the custom rom I was on. But I noticed immediately afterwards my reception returned to 2-3 bars again. I really didn't care too much but then the rom I was using started acting funny. The developer decided to mess with the cpu cores on his update and in extreme power save mode over night it would eat 10% of my battery. And that is something I can't tolerate...
So, I decided to run the 1.32 tmobile (that's my carrier) RUU on my m9 and then accept the 2.7 ota. My reception then returned to 100%. after that I reflashed twrp and super su and restored all my data.
I told my wife about the reception and she wanted me to do the same on her phone (the dev edition) and so I did and got the same results....
So moral of this long post is that if you have poor reception than flashing an ruu for your carrier just might be the trick. This in return will save battery life.
If you decide to try it let me know if it worked. Thanks
This is the link with instructions on how to change your phone from one carrier to another. clsA gives instructions to convert ATT model to developer edition. But you can change your cid to whatever you carrier is and flash accordingly.
Tmobile cid= T-MOB010
At&T and develop edition cid can be found in the link. Also make sure your mid match the firmware you flash. Tmobile mid is 0PJA12000
bigp951 said:
Ever since I got my m9's I have been a flashing fool! I absolutely love it. But I recently learned a trick to improve my reception so I decided I would share.
I live in a city and my reception should always be 5 bars but ever since I got my phones I was only getting 3 bars max regardless of firmware or rom. I know because I have flashed them all. I have a developers edition and an AT&T edition m9 and both phones got the same reception.
So moral of this long post is that if you have poor reception than flashing an ruu for your carrier just might be the trick. This in return will save battery life.
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I noticed my reception also being worse than my Galaxy S5. In fact, when I woke up I found that my phone was roaming! I never had that issue with the S5. I found it strange. Wi-Fi signal also isn't as good as on the S5. I don't know if it's all the metal or the terrible Snapdragon 810.
I wish your method involved changing something in build.prop lol, that would be simpler and quicker. I'm on a custom ROM also, not by my own will but because I bought the phone like that, I have no idea how to go back to stock AT&T without root and to be able to accept OTAs. I am S-On right now.
Ramsey said:
I noticed my reception also being worse than my Galaxy S5. In fact, when I woke up I found that my phone was roaming! I never had that issue with the S5. I found it strange. Wi-Fi signal also isn't as good as on the S5. I don't know if it's all the metal or the terrible Snapdragon 810.
I wish your method involved changing something in build.prop lol, that would be simpler and quicker. I'm on a custom ROM also, not by my own will but because I bought the phone like that, I have no idea how to go back to stock AT&T without root and to be able to accept OTAs. I am S-On right now.
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There are a ton of excellent guides in the forum to either change ROMs or return to stock. I think you have to be s-off though. When I want to return to stock I just run an RUU. but remember to back up everything you want to keep because the phone will be completely wiped
bigp951 said:
There are a ton of excellent guides in the forum to either change ROMs or return to stock. I think you have to be s-off though. When I want to return to stock I just run an RUU. but remember to back up everything you want to keep because the phone will be completely wiped
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I can't find any good guide here for the M9. Weird huh? I've been here since 2008, read countless excellent guides for many phones, and let me tell you that in the past guides were clear and informative. Now all I see is people writing random text all over the place, no clear steps, and information isn't always updated. Probably younger people are writing them, no problem, but it's not helping me understand how to do it.
There's a guide that still says that HTC hasn't yet allowed the bootloader to be unlocked for the M9, and yet when you go there you realize that HTC allows us to unlock it now.
Anyways, my point is, I can't find a good guide, it's not that I'm being prideful, it's just that I have indeed searched and can't find a clear guide. I'm not sure if most assume we have to be S-off? In the past people used to mention "you have to be rooted, or unrooted, or unlocked bootloader, or S-on or S-off". Now it's not very clear so I'm confused, especially since those guides have so many links that I don't know what to download and each is 2GB. You're not the first to tell me that xda has many excellent guides without pointing me to one for the M9 haha.
I want a better reception among other things as it worries me that it was roaming out of nowhere and I'd love to go back to stock as I am not a fan of custom ROMs (except for on my 2010 Galaxy S1 lol).
I have to admit this is the most confusing phone when it comes to modding it or removing root to OTA.
I tried to run an RUU for AT&T latest Android 5.1 (when I was running stock 1.32) and it failed many times, even though I unrooted and locked bootloader. I miss the days of ODIN flashing in download mode =(.
I'm happy the ROM I'm using is stable but still.
Ramsey said:
I can't find any good guide here for the M9. Weird huh? I've been here since 2008, read countless excellent guides for many phones, and let me tell you that in the past guides were clear and informative. Now all I see is people writing random text all over the place, no clear steps, and information isn't always updated. Probably younger people are writing them, no problem, but it's not helping me understand how to do it.
There's a guide that still says that HTC hasn't yet allowed the bootloader to be unlocked for the M9, and yet when you go there you realize that HTC allows us to unlock it now.
Anyways, my point is, I can't find a good guide, it's not that I'm being prideful, it's just that I have indeed searched and can't find a clear guide. I'm not sure if most assume we have to be S-off? In the past people used to mention "you have to be rooted, or unrooted, or unlocked bootloader, or S-on or S-off". Now it's not very clear so I'm confused, especially since those guides have so many links that I don't know what to download and each is 2GB. You're not the first to tell me that xda has many excellent guides without pointing me to one for the M9 haha.
I want a better reception among other things as it worries me that it was roaming out of nowhere and I'd love to go back to stock as I am not a fan of custom ROMs (except for on my 2010 Galaxy S1 lol).
I have to admit this is the most confusing phone when it comes to modding it or removing root to OTA.
I tried to run an RUU for AT&T latest Android 5.1 (when I was running stock 1.32) and it failed many times, even though I unrooted and locked bootloader. I miss the days of ODIN flashing in download mode =(.
I'm happy the ROM I'm using is stable but still.
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I can see where you think my guide has a lot of links, but all you need to do is determine what your phone is now and choose the correct link for your device. To figure out your current Firmware just reboot your phone to download mode and it tells your OS version right their.
now you know your version download the one your on now or a newer version and RUU back to stock, It's actually easier than Odin
Read my entire instructions to convert to developer edition and you'll see it's not all that hard.
S-off is a pretty vital step if you plan on flashing your phone much at all, and is well worth the $25 price. But it's not needed if you just want your AT&T phone back to stock. Just lock the bootloader (fastboot oem lock). and Run the RUU.exe and your done you have a stock phone.
If your worried about the modified status you'll have to pay for the s-off to remove it.
clsA said:
I can see where you think my guide has a lot of links, but all you need to do is determine what your phone is now and choose the correct link for your device. To figure out your current Firmware just reboot your phone to download mode and it tells your OS version right their.
now you know your version download the one your on now or a newer version and RUU back to stock, It's actually easier than Odin
Read my entire instructions to convert to developer edition and you'll see it's not all that hard.
S-off is a pretty vital step if you plan on flashing your phone much at all, and is well worth the $25 price. But it's not needed if you just want your AT&T phone back to stock. Just lock the bootloader (fastboot oem lock). and Run the RUU.exe and your done you have a stock phone.
If your worried about the modified status you'll have to pay for the s-off to remove it.
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Thanks for the answer. I saw yours a week ago and I skimmed through it and since it needs S-Off, I kept it for later. I have a question for you and I'll PM you if that's fine as I don't want to take over this thread.
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and is well worth the $25 price.
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S-off is only $25 now? Dang I paid 50 for each phone.
Ramsey said:
I have to admit this is the most confusing phone when it comes to modding it or removing root to OTA.
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cLSA is very knowledgeable on the m9. When I first made the swith from Samsung to HTC I didn't know jack. But in the past few months I have realized the m9 is the easiest phone to customize that I've ever owned. If cLSA can't help you (I'm sure he's a busy guy) than I'm sure I could. I'm moving and dont have internet yet (right now I'm typing from my phone) but I can always turn on my hotspot and lend a hand.
First thing I recommend doing is to make sure you're adb and fastboot are updated to the latest version. Also make sure you have ever all the right drivers installed.
I'd also recommend getting s-off. Just makes life easier knowing you can flash anything you want (including older firmware). And if a stock phone is what you want than you can turn it back on
If your adb is working then with you phone plugged in and USB debugging clicked open a command prompt (as administrator) and type adb devices. You should then look at Your phone and grant the phone adb privelages. Following that you should see your phones serial number on your pc.
If you see that adb is installed properly, if not then go back and install adb properly. Pm me if you want me to walk you through anything.
Hello,
It has been a while since I have needed to do hard tinkering with a phone. Coming from a Moto X, the HTC scene is new to me.
I finally got the chance and acquired a new phone, a Verizon HTC M9 (himawl). Having read around here and there, info about this particular variant is scarce, but from what I gather, there seems to be trouble with unlocking bootloader, flashing, and installing a custom ROM. Coming from Moto X, I find the amount of bloatware and stock theme in applications/settings completely HIDEOUS.
Also, checking around I see things like S-OFF (security off from what I understand), temp-root, URR, and sunshine (an application from what I gather), and they just keep adding to the things I've read and I don't fully understand.
So to keep things short, I was wondering if someone could help me in what I NEED to get a functioning Cyanogen on a Verizon M9. Also if the bug with camera and bluetooth has been resolved.
1. Can the bootloader for "himawl" be unlocked?
2. Do I NEED S-OFF to flash a custom recovery? If so, can sunshine do it? Do I need to sent it to someone? (Being from Mexico, that can be tricky)
3. After flashing recovery, which ROM would best be suited for my needs (stable, functioning things, no bloatware)?
Sorry for this being long, but wanted some help consolidating all the bits and pieces out there...
P.S.
I dont CARE about verizon apps or advanced calling, as being from Mexico, I dont get ANY benefit from them being there..
OblivionWielder said:
Hello,
It has been a while since I have needed to do hard tinkering with a phone. Coming from a Moto X, the HTC scene is new to me.
I finally got the chance and acquired a new phone, a Verizon HTC M9 (himawl). Having read around here and there, info about this particular variant is scarce, but from what I gather, there seems to be trouble with unlocking bootloader, flashing, and installing a custom ROM. Coming from Moto X, I find the amount of bloatware and stock theme in applications/settings completely HIDEOUS.
Also, checking around I see things like S-OFF (security off from what I understand), temp-root, URR, and sunshine (an application from what I gather), and they just keep adding to the things I've read and I don't fully understand.
So to keep things short, I was wondering if someone could help me in what I NEED to get a functioning Cyanogen on a Verizon M9. Also if the bug with camera and bluetooth has been resolved.
1. Can the bootloader for "himawl" be unlocked?
2. Do I NEED S-OFF to flash a custom recovery? If so, can sunshine do it? Do I need to sent it to someone? (Being from Mexico, that can be tricky)
3. After flashing recovery, which ROM would best be suited for my needs (stable, functioning things, no bloatware)?
Sorry for this being long, but wanted some help consolidating all the bits and pieces out there...
P.S.
I dont CARE about verizon apps or advanced calling, as being from Mexico, I dont get ANY benefit from them being there..
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No idea if there is cyanogen mod for the m9.
There is an AOSP ROM for m9 - candyrom (Google it)
Yes you need S-OFF or an unlocked bootloader to flash a custom recovery.
For Verizon you have 1 option - sending device to someone with a java card. A little searching goes along way.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-one-m9/general/m9-java-card-t3063247
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No idea if there is cyanogen mod for the m9.
There is an AOSP ROM for m9 - candyrom (Google it)
Yes you need S-OFF or an unlocked bootloader to flash a custom recovery.
For Verizon you have 1 option - sending device to someone with a java card. A little searching goes along way.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-one-m9/general/m9-java-card-t3063247
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Thanks for the response. What I mean with the question is that if I needed BOTH to flash a custom firmware, but from what I gather in your response either one i manage ought to do the trick .
I already have a copy of candy waiting for it.
I guess Ill search someone in mexico that can do java card. Thanks for the info
andybones said:
No idea if there is cyanogen mod for the m9.
There is an AOSP ROM for m9 - candyrom (Google it)
Yes you need S-OFF or an unlocked bootloader to flash a custom recovery.
For Verizon you have 1 option - sending device to someone with a java card. A little searching goes along way.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-one-m9/general/m9-java-card-t3063247
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And while Candy isn't exacty CM, it's based off of it - kinds CM+. Works well.
Hi guys,
Got an M9 that updated to Nougat as soon as i laid hands on it. I have very few experience with the HTC world, and would like some information where should i head after here.
I'll definitely need root and am familiar with flashing through fastboot and unlocking through the HTC DEV Token.
I am also aware that a few flashing methods dont work with an unlocked bootloader, so currently i dont want to rush right there.
What is absolutely a myth to me, is S-OFF. Never managed to reach it in any device, and the way of getting it seems a bit unfair (sorry if it doesn't agree with anyone's views).
So this is what i have.
Status: LOCKED and S-ON
ROM: 7.0
Software: 4.16.166.1
Build: CL839204
CID: VODAP110
Baseband: 01.01_U114401011_117.00.61117G_2_F
Has Download mode available.
Thanks in advance.
Sad, sad to have found out that on XDA, barely any helper comes around the Help threads.
And even sadder to the fact that a certain feature to give control over the device have been monopolised in OEM fashion, adding a certain fee too.
The loop of options:
YOU CAN ONLY:
Unlock the device officially, temper with custom roms and recoveries.
The moment you want the benefits of a newer release (baseband, etc), one needs to relock back, that means backing up, go through wiping and locking and back.
YOU CANT:
Certain features that depend on S-OFF. From changing phones origin to updating without bothering locking or not.
Long story short, you cant do anything useful without reaching the pocket.
This concludes as my last HTC phone ever.
PlutoDelic said:
Sad, sad to have found out that on XDA, barely any helper comes around the Help threads.
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I can only speak for myself but I'm not online 24/7. I answer if and when I have time for answering. Then you need to be aware that the M9 forum never was that active and the user base is even decreasing since the phone is already older than two years. If you expect fast replies, then a not so active device forum is definetely the wrong place for asking a question.
Aside from that, there's the ReadMe thread that got pinned at the top of the General and the Q&A section. It contains all answers to your questions. After all the time that I'm maintaining that thread I still don't understand why people prefer creating a new Q&A thread instead of reading what already got written.
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And even sadder to the fact that a certain feature to give control over the device have been monopolised in OEM fashion, adding a certain fee too.
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Please, not that discussion, again. S-OFF is absolutely not needed for using this phone. It's optional.
PlutoDelic said:
Unlock the device officially, temper with custom roms and recoveries.
The moment you want the benefits of a newer release (baseband, etc), one needs to relock back, that means backing up, go through wiping and locking and back.
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Incorrect. If you had read the ReadMe thread you would know that relocking is absolutely not needed (and even not recommended). Not to forget that this phone is EOL. If you update to the latest version before starting to tinker you will never have to deal with this "problem" of getting back to stock. Aside from that, it was Google that introduced the block-based OTAs with android 5, not HTC. You'll face the same "problem" with every phone that gets shipped with android 5 or newer.
PlutoDelic said:
YOU CANT:
Certain features that depend on S-OFF. From changing phones origin to updating without bothering locking or not.
Long story short, you cant do anything useful without reaching the pocket.
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Not sure how you define useful but rooting and installing custom roms is working fine without S-OFF. Most M9 owners have never heard of xda, rooting or custom roms and the majority of the rest doesn't need more than what they already can achieve with S-ON. (The part with the locking already got corrected above.)
Flippy498 said:
I can only speak for myself but I'm not online 24/7. I answer if and when I have time for answering.
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Obviously, i have the same experience on a few Samsung threads, very understandable, although rare does someone have such enthusiastic reply for something positive. But anyway, i'll throw a thanks as i am not here for cynicism or arrogance.
Flippy498 said:
Then you need to be aware that the M9 forum never was that active and the user base is even decreasing since the phone is already older than two years.
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Very well noticed.
Regarding S-OFF, i "just" need it, and was very much disappointed with the solution.
Okay guys apparently I'm too much of the little guy to post this in the dev part. However, I did a search and came accross an eng bootloader or what claims to be for the galaxy s10+. I'm not sure as to the legitimacy of this file, but figured it was worth putting out there. I helped or tried to help when the S8 came out as well. Anyway once I get it uploaded somewhere, I will post the file.
Okay just an FYI this is said to be the eng bootloader from PakFirmware and said to be for G975U
Bootloader filehttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1c3gDQ6vi99NsRS3cZzVkR2C_vzNIPL-s/view?usp=drivesdk
Bootloader RAR filehttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1wG1d0eK6hBnL6-N1SimEIwvKiC2G8YcY/view?usp=drivesdk
If anyone is curious as to where the file came from it was from herehttps://www.google.com/amp/s/pakfirmware.com/2019/02/samsung-s10-sm-g975u-eng-boot-file/amp/
Here is the link to the combination from file with supposed eng bootloader included https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XeL8KfP255QJD0Txv5B79Edneb4SEaY-/view?usp=drivesdk
First of all, I bet you $20 right now it's not, it's just the same combination boot file that comes in every single combination rom.
Second of all, even if it is and I am wrong, it won't help as you won't be able to boot it. Samsung phones require special certificates to allow them to boot eng firmware, and those certificates essentially oem unlock the device anyway. I know this because I have an s8+ that happens to possess one. But before you ask, the certificates are tied cryptographically to the imei and did numbers of the device they are issued for, so finding one for another device won't help you
As has been stated ad nauseum, the USA Samsung devices aren't rootable anymore. People who want rooted Samsungs should purchase the exynos (SM-G975F/D), or international snapdragon (SM-G9750) models
While the above may be true, I was merely trying to help and by no means am I a developer. I, however do not believe that US variant SD Samsung phones are not rootable. There have been countless times before where people have made that statement and yet root has come to fruition, albeit may take a considerable amount of time and effort. Many US customers are unable to buy international variants and are stuck with what we can get. So with that being said, I hope that I am not being too pushy with regards to your statement, I just refuse to be pessimistic when it comes to development and root efforts. The galaxy s8 had root even though it took some time, yet it was suppose to be unrootable. I just like to think that regardless of people saying it "can't " is a motivator to challenge development and experiment.
You two should work with @elliwigy and his root project! He could use some assistance & expertise & team! Cheers
ait1071 said:
While the above may be true, I was merely trying to help and by no means am I a developer. I, however do not believe that US variant SD Samsung phones are not rootable. There have been countless times before where people have made that statement and yet root has come to fruition, albeit may take a considerable amount of time and effort. Many US customers are unable to buy international variants and are stuck with what we can get. So with that being said, I hope that I am not being too pushy with regards to your statement, I just refuse to be pessimistic when it comes to development and root efforts. The galaxy s8 had root even though it took some time, yet it was suppose to be unrootable. I just like to think that regardless of people saying it "can't " is a motivator to challenge development and experiment.
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S10 COMBINATION file Restrictions flash
Unless get token
steady.bin flash!
Game over!
ait1071 said:
While the above may be true, I was merely trying to help and by no means am I a developer. I, however do not believe that US variant SD Samsung phones are not rootable. There have been countless times before where people have made that statement and yet root has come to fruition, albeit may take a considerable amount of time and effort. Many US customers are unable to buy international variants and are stuck with what we can get. So with that being said, I hope that I am not being too pushy with regards to your statement, I just refuse to be pessimistic when it comes to development and root efforts. The galaxy s8 had root even though it took some time, yet it was suppose to be unrootable. I just like to think that regardless of people saying it "can't " is a motivator to challenge development and experiment.
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I am aware, as I was the last person to root one. Changes came with the s9 family that closed the last remaining doors. As you can see by looking the s9 or s9+ were never rooted. The s10 won't be either
Found something
Ok so i found something that might be of some use it says its an eng boot file but idk if its legit or not so if someone can check it out it would be very much appreciated heres the link: https://support.halabtech.com/index.php?a=downloads&b=folder&id=42678
Chibisuke1219 said:
Ok so i found something that might be of some use it says its an eng boot file but idk if its legit or not so if someone can check it out it would be very much appreciated heres the link: https://support.halabtech.com/index.php?a=downloads&b=folder&id=42678
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It's not. In 100 out of 100 times you find these online they are just the combination bootloader repackaged with this incorrect name, because they can be used to bypass frp in some cases.
I don't know why you are looking for the eng bootloader anyway. Even in the incredibly unlikely scenario you found the real one, it won't help you because devices past the s7 won't boot them anyway without a special certificate that your phone doesn't have (because it effectively unlocks your bootloader anyway)
GSM CHEN said:
S10 COMBINATION file Restrictions flash
Unless get token
steady.bin flash!
Game over!
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Man, if only we were able to find and use the ENG firmware! Even if anyone is able to find ENG firmware, they will not be able to use it as @partcyborg already pointed out.. You would need some sort of ENG Token to convert your device into an ENG device which as he also stated would in itself be like unlocking the bootloader.. If you know anyone or any company that is able to convert devices to eng devices (I highly doubt it) then please let us know.
Last I heard if you could even find anyone that is able to sell you an ENG cert/token that they are very expensive...
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It's not. In 100 out of 100 times you find these online they are just the combination bootloader repackaged with this incorrect name, because they can be used to bypass frp in some cases.
I don't know why you are looking for the eng bootloader anyway. Even in the incredibly unlikely scenario you found the real one, it won't help you because devices past the s7 won't boot them anyway without a special certificate that your phone doesn't have (because it effectively unlocks your bootloader anyway)
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haha yes, that irritates the CRAP out of me... its like the entire internet doesn't know the difference between "ENG" and "FACTORY" sometimes..
to add, factory firmware will not allow you to root your device. It is only typically "debuggable" (no it isn't a userdebug and if you don't know what this means then it probably won't help you either), permissive and verity disabled.
ENG firmware typically will have "eng" in its name and 5th letter from right to left will typically be an E (for ENG.)
To top it off, most of the world can't even flash factory firmware onto g975u.... I think people should focus on figuring that out before anything.. if not, the world is doooooomed
On a side note: The S8/S8+ SamPWND root did use some ENG firmware (this was of course released after the S7).. Mainly we used the ENG system which has SU binaries by default.. but I can 100% tell you even if we did come across ENG firmware, we can no longer flash the system without ENG token/cert...
elliwigy said:
Man, if only we were able to find and use the ENG firmware! Even if anyone is able to find ENG firmware, they will not be able to use it as @partcyborg already pointed out.. You would need some sort of ENG Token to convert your device into an ENG device which as he also stated would in itself be like unlocking the bootloader.. If you know anyone or any company that is able to convert devices to eng devices (I highly doubt it) then please let us know.
Last I heard if you could even find anyone that is able to sell you an ENG cert/token that they are very expensive...
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$600 USD per device for the s8/s8+. That is after the company plops down $25k up front just to set everything up.
It's likely priced this way specifically to make it virtually impossible to do things like give them out on XDA
I think elliwigy has rooted the S9. S10 will be very very hard to do if not impossible.
kalexander7 said:
*cough* Just figured I'd leak some protected Samsung AT commands here for you guys to crack that 'cryptography'
AT+ENGMODES=0,
AT+ENGMODES=1,
AT+ENGMODES=2,2,
AT+ENGMODES=8,0,0
AT+ENGMODES=8,0,1
AT+ENGMODES=8,0,2
AT+ENGMODES=8,0,3
AT+DEVROOTK=
AT+DEVROOTK=1,0,0
AT+DEVROOTK=1,1,0
AT+DEVROOTK=2,0,
AT+DEVROOTK=2,1,
AT+DEVROOTK=2,2,
AT+DEVROOTK=2,3,
AT+DEVROOTK=2,4,
AT+DEVROOTK=2,5,
AT+DEVROOTK=2,6,
AT+DEVROOTK=2,7,
Both of these commands have something to do with the eng bootloader being switched.
AT+REACTIVE may also be part of it
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these arent secret or helpful
Seems at this rate we would need a Samsung phone tech to get root.