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The OTA 4.4.3 update is now available for my phone, but I've rooted it, and I've read the horror stories so I'm not going to blunder blindly into this
My rooting experience went a little poorly - I thought I was doing the right thing by backing everything up on the phone first, using Helium. Unfortunately Helium simply did the backup onto the internal storage itself, so it all got wiped during the process anyway.
Anyway, I got over that, but now I want to install the OTA 4.4.3 update. So here's the things I've done which I think are relevant:
1. Installed TWRP recovery, as required for rooting
2. Have flashed the SuperSU program for root
3. AFAIK I'm still on "stock" - I haven't gone out to find any special roms etc
4. Had to reinstall the calc and flashlight apps as they were missing after the whole exercise (so many I'm not on stock, or they would be there?)
5. I have installed Xposed Framework and the Sense 6 tweaks and GravityBox apps.
6. I tried to uninstall some system apps (Facebook, Twitter, things I don't use) with a root uninstaller program, but every time the phone reboots they re-appear, so I think I need s-off to do that properly?
7. I've 'Disabled' the weibo app through the standard app info button
I understand I have to go back to the "stock recovery" in order to do the OTA update, but is there anything else in the above list that I need to do anything about?
Will going back to the stock recovery mean I lose all of the content on my device again, and have to restore it from a backup? If I use the HTC backup app to back up all my phone data on the rooted 4.4.2 I'm running, can this then be restored onto the 4.4.3 version?
Also is the problem I mention in #6 solved by going s-off?
Lanthanide said:
The OTA 4.4.3 update is now available for my phone, but I've rooted it, and I've read the horror stories so I'm not going to blunder blindly into this
My rooting experience went a little poorly - I thought I was doing the right thing by backing everything up on the phone first, using Helium. Unfortunately Helium simply did the backup onto the internal storage itself, so it all got wiped during the process anyway.
Anyway, I got over that, but now I want to install the OTA 4.4.3 update. So here's the things I've done which I think are relevant:
1. Installed TWRP recovery, as required for rooting
2. Have flashed the SuperSU program for root
3. AFAIK I'm still on "stock" - I haven't gone out to find any special roms etc
4. Had to reinstall the calc and flashlight apps as they were missing after the whole exercise (so many I'm not on stock, or they would be there?)
5. I have installed Xposed Framework and the Sense 6 tweaks and GravityBox apps.
6. I tried to uninstall some system apps (Facebook, Twitter, things I don't use) with a root uninstaller program, but every time the phone reboots they re-appear, so I think I need s-off to do that properly?
7. I've 'Disabled' the weibo app through the standard app info button
I understand I have to go back to the "stock recovery" in order to do the OTA update, but is there anything else in the above list that I need to do anything about?
Will going back to the stock recovery mean I lose all of the content on my device again, and have to restore it from a backup? If I use the HTC backup app to back up all my phone data on the rooted 4.4.2 I'm running, can this then be restored onto the 4.4.3 version?
Also is the problem I mention in #6 solved by going s-off?
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Flashing back stock recovery you won't loose anything. This just happens during the unlock process if done with HTCDev.
Good that you are not S-Off and FB, Twitter and so on are still installed, as otherwise you wouldn't be abled to perform the OTA. An OTA is only going to run if the whole system is unchanged.
Only thing that's quite likely going to happen, is that you root is lost after the OTA. Tthus you would have to flash TWRP and the SuperSu again, after the OTA.
HTCNerdYoda said:
Flashing back stock recovery you won't loose anything. This just happens during the unlock process if done with HTCDev.
Good that you are not S-Off and FB, Twitter and so on are still installed, as otherwise you wouldn't be abled to perform the OTA. An OTA is only going to run if the whole system is unchanged.
Only thing that's quite likely going to happen, is that you root is lost after the OTA. Tthus you would have to flash TWRP and the SuperSu again, after the OTA.
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I thought it didn't matter if you were s/off or not, so long as recovery and OS were stock and CID matched (or were SuperCID).
bruce7373 said:
I thought it didn't matter if you were s/off or not, so long as recovery and OS were stock and CID matched (or were SuperCID).
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It doesn't matter in general. But it matters in case that you used S-Off to uninstall system APPs Thus an OTA wouldn't succeed.
That's what I wanted to say in my post above
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Wow found my answer already. Just to confirm. I'm in the same situation. Rooted. Installed twrp and su. Went to s-off with firewater but got the whelp message.
Got the OTA update in this morning. Tried installing it, went to my recovery so I tried to install it. It failed of course. Phone is still ok.
I'm just making sure I'll do this ok. Gotta go back to original recovery then install it or am I just better off going to a custom rom?
On my vivid, I used paranoid when it was available, used pacman for a bit. Also used the CyanogenMod. I know recommendation shouldn't be made but i know on my vivid there were lots of issues since there wasn't a specific team rolling out the roms but someone porting them from the specific team. Is there a team dedicated to this phone? If so are their roms leaps ahead of the ones ported over? Just looking at the downloads you can tell which one is the most popular, that doesn't always mean they are the best.
Thanks for any advice.
Yuskow said:
Wow found my answer already. Just to confirm. I'm in the same situation. Rooted. Installed twrp and su. Went to s-off with firewater but got the whelp message.
Got the OTA update in this morning. Tried installing it, went to my recovery so I tried to install it. It failed of course. Phone is still ok.
I'm just making sure I'll do this ok. Gotta go back to original recovery then install it or am I just better off going to a custom rom?
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I would revert to stock recovery and get me this OTA. And you need a 2.22.xxx FW for some of the custom ROMs currently available.
It's the fastest way to update your firmware anyway
Alternatively you could try to perform an S-Off using SunShine and paying 25$ for it, as I did to flash the newest FW.
HTCNerdYoda said:
I would revert to stock recovery and get me this OTA. And you need a 2.22.xxx FW for some of the custom ROMs currently available.
It's the fastest way to update your firmware anyway
Alternatively you could try to perform an S-Off using SunShine and paying 25$ for it, as I did to flash the newest FW.
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Got my cid as bm 001
so i got the nandroid backup here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376
now i just do a restore under twrp?
is the s-off really worth it?
Yuskow said:
Got my cid as bm 001
so i got the nandroid backup here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376
now i just do a restore under twrp?
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As long as the ROM you are using is stock and you only routetd, you just need to flash stock recovery for the OTA to succeed.
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is the s-off really worth it?
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Well from my point of view: yes it is. Needed S-Off to debrand my One M8 and change CID to a WWE one. Well and additionally you can do a lot more if the security flag is on off (never without propper reading before doing it of course).
Yuskow said:
Wow found my answer already. Just to confirm. I'm in the same situation. Rooted. Installed twrp and su. Went to s-off with firewater but got the whelp message.
Got the OTA update in this morning. Tried installing it, went to my recovery so I tried to install it. It failed of course. Phone is still ok.
I'm just making sure I'll do this ok. Gotta go back to original recovery then install it or am I just better off going to a custom rom?
On my vivid, I used paranoid when it was available, used pacman for a bit. Also used the CyanogenMod. I know recommendation shouldn't be made but i know on my vivid there were lots of issues since there wasn't a specific team rolling out the roms but someone porting them from the specific team. Is there a team dedicated to this phone? If so are their roms leaps ahead of the ones ported over? Just looking at the downloads you can tell which one is the most popular, that doesn't always mean they are the best.
Thanks for any advice.
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I had the Vivid as well and ended up with a 4.4.2 ROM which seemed to be the most current that was available at the time, but can't remember the name or the dev.
As for the M8, I've been on ARHD almost exclusively and think it's one of the best ROMs out there. I've tried Viper, MaximusHD, Renovate also, but always come back to ARHD.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2694917
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HTCNerdYoda said:
As long as the ROM you are using is stock and you only routetd, you just need to flash stock recovery for the OTA to succeed.
Well from my point of view: yes it is. Needed S-Off to debrand my One M8 and change CID to a WWE one. Well and additionally you can do a lot more if the security flag is on off (never without propper reading before doing it of course).
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I have the WWE edition and am currently with ATT. I'm considering their new update mainly to see if the new firmware/radio will give me better LTE speeds. The fw is 2.23 based. Will that be a problem if or when I return to ARHD which is on 2.22?
bruce7373 said:
I have the WWE edition and am currently with ATT. I'm considering their new update mainly to see if the new firmware/radio will give me better LTE speeds. The fw is 2.23 based. Will that be a problem if or when I return to ARHD which is on 2.22?
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That's a really good question. Regarding ViperOne I could tell that running 1.8.0 (which was on 1.54.xx base) with 2.22.xxx FW worked flawlessly. So I would guess this should work just fine.
At least it's worth a try. Maybe better ask in the ROM thread.
Used arhd on my vivid for a bit. Must say it was an ok rom but lots of issues in general with all new roms on the vivid. Hardware too outdated. Maybe I'll give it a shot. Really leaning to a de-senced one.
HTCNerdYoda said:
Flashing back stock recovery you won't loose anything. This just happens during the unlock process if done with HTCDev.
Good that you are not S-Off and FB, Twitter and so on are still installed, as otherwise you wouldn't be abled to perform the OTA. An OTA is only going to run if the whole system is unchanged.
Only thing that's quite likely going to happen, is that you root is lost after the OTA. Tthus you would have to flash TWRP and the SuperSu again, after the OTA.
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Ok, that's encouraging.
My CID is HTC__621 although I don't think I need that for just flashing back to stock recovery. My version is 1.54.709.12, so I downloaded the matching recovery from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376 and flashed it. I confirmed that the stock recovery was installed by booting to it and getting the red triangle etc.
Then I downloaded the OTA upgrade and told it to install. I didn't watch the installation progress, but eventually it went to the red triangle screen and finally rebooted. But I'm still on 1.54.709.12, so I take that to mean the OTA failed. When I go to system update, it checks and finds one available and offers to download it again, which I haven't done.
I'm wondering if 'disabling' the weibo program could have caused the update to fail? Or possibly I *did* actually uninstall a stock program or two that I mentioned at #6 and that's what's preventing the update?
Anyway, I made a complete nandroid backup on the external SD card before I flashed the recovery. It seems like the easiest approach now would be to flash a stock ROM for HTC__621 then do the OTA upgrade. After that, I could restore my HTC sync (the app) backup from the cloud, but if I wasn't happy with that I could recover the data portion of my nandroid backup?
Lanthanide said:
Ok, that's encouraging.
Anyway, I made a complete nandroid backup on the external SD card before I flashed the recovery. It seems like the easiest approach now would be to flash a stock ROM for HTC__621 then do the OTA upgrade. After that, I could restore my HTC sync (the app) backup from the cloud, but if I wasn't happy with that I could recover the data portion of my nandroid backup?
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In fact you are right. The OTA fails as something on the system has been changed that's critical to the OTA.
So I would back up the data on the phone I need, download a stock nandroid backup for your CID, install with twrp, re-flash stock recovery and perform the OTA again.
HTCNerdYoda said:
In fact you are right. The OTA fails as something on the system has been changed that's critical to the OTA.
So I would back up the data on the phone I need, download a stock nandroid backup for your CID, install with twrp, re-flash stock recovery and perform the OTA again.
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Ok, so I put on a stock nadroid backup for HTC__621, changed to stock recovery, but the OTA update is still failing at around the 30% mark.
Actually I've just noticed that the stock ROM I put on doesn't have the calc or flashlight apps, but when I originally bought the phone they were on there. I had subsequently installed them using the apps on this thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2699906
But maybe that is what is preventing me from doing the OTA now?
Edit: Right, so doing some more reading, it seems that HTC included these 'stock' apps in the /data directory instead of /system, so when doing the HTCDev install, they get wiped. But there was a note in that thread saying that for the One M7, they would actually do a hash of those apps too and if they weren't there the update would fail.
Someone linked to this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2703759 which says the APKs in the first one were from the M7, and these are from M8, and it also included another one called Seven Digital (yet another bloatware app I don't care about, hence why I didn't notice it was gone). Anyway I installed those 3 apps, but the OTA update still fails at around the 30% mark. I notice that the thread says preload APKs for 1.54.401.5, but my phone is running 1.54.709.12, so if they really are doing hashing for all of these apps, the update might be expectly a slightly different version and therefore fail the hash check?
Resolved!
Right, posting as new post because I solved it!
I searched through the collection thread and luckily found someone else who has HTC__621 who wanted to do the 4.4.3 upgrade as well. ckpv5 stepped in to lend a hand with this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54598052&postcount=1514
The TWRP stock ROM he posted there includes the flashlight and calculator app, as well as another one that looks like it was missing - WeChat. So now the OTA update has applied as expected. :highfive
I'll suggest Mr Hofs remove the existing nandroid backup for HTC__621 that he has there because it isn't complete.
Weirdly after all that was done, now that I have 4.4.3, the calc and flashlight apps are again missing; no sign of WeChat either. So I'll probably have to go through this whole performance again next time I want to OTA update?
Edit: More findings. In installing Xposed Framework on my phone, it can't do the 'classical' install because of S-on, instead it flashes it through recovery. So I suspect this could have been preventing the OTA update as well.
Lanthanide said:
Weirdly after all that was done, now that I have 4.4.3, the calc and flashlight apps are again missing; no sign of WeChat either. So I'll probably have to go through this whole performance again next time I want to OTA update?
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Because you relocked bootloader when you did the OTA update. So those files were deleted when you re-unlocked bootloader after OTA done.
There's a TWRP backup for the latest here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55097943&postcount=1744
Just a note : there is no need to relock bootloader to do OTA update.
ckpv5 said:
Because you relocked bootloader when you did the OTA update. So those files were deleted when you re-unlocked bootloader after OTA done.
There's a TWRP backup for the latest here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55097943&postcount=1744
Just a note : there is no need to relock bootloader to do OTA update.
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Ok, at least there's an explanation for what happened, but I didn't at any point explicitly lock the bootloader. All I did was:
1. Flash TWRP recovery
2. Flash the ROM you provided
3. Boot the phone, going through the setup stuff to configure wifi etc
4. Booted to fastboot and flashed to stock recovery
5. Rebooted phone, downloaded and installed OTA update
6. Booted to fastboot and re-flashed TWRP, ran nandroid backup and then installed superSU when offered
At what point would the locking of the bootloader have occurred?
Lanthanide said:
At what point would the locking of the bootloader have occurred?
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Re-unlocking bootloader is one scenario that may happen that remove the preload folder.
Restoring an old backup which doesn't have the preload folder is another scenario.
Anyway that is easily can be fix by pushing the preload folder from OTA zip to /data
then make a new backup for future OTA
ckpv5 said:
Re-unlocking bootloader is one scenario that may happen that remove the preload folder.
Restoring an old backup which doesn't have the preload folder is another scenario.
Anyway that is easily can be fix by pushing the preload folder from OTA zip to /data
then make a new backup for future OTA
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Ok, well like I said, I didn't explicitly choose the lock the bootloader at any point, and the nandroid backup that you created *did* have the extra apps in there (I confirmed their presence at step 3 in my sequence).
Note that I'm not trying to be argumentative, just explaining my experience in case this might help others in the future.
Hi all, please correct me if I placed this at the wrong thread.
I recently was flasing my phone with stock roms due to some technical difficulties I had. I realize the system will create an Android folder in my ext SD card. Is this normal? Do I need to be worry about it?
By the way, I am currently using 3.32.707.9 as my ROM, when I check my OS version in bootloader, there isn't anything there. Why is that so?
Can I flash back a lower version of ROM? For instance, 1.54.707.7
Thanks for helping in advance!
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jkidz91 said:
I recently was flasing my phone with stock roms due to some technical difficulties I had. I realize the system will create an Android folder in my ext SD card. Is this normal? Do I need to be worry about it? Totally normal, no need to worry.
By the way, I am currently using 3.32.707.9 as my ROM, when I check my OS version in bootloader, there isn't anything there. Why is that so? This is usually due to using an older version of TWRP (known bug). This number is useful for determining your current firmware version (hboot, radio, etc.) but you can also determine that by looking at the hboot number and radio numbers themselves
Can I flash back a lower version of ROM? For instance, 1.54.707.7 Yes. Usually, you want the ROM version (1.x, 2.x etc.) to correspond to your current firmware. But its usually been found that a higher number firmware will usually work with older (smaller number) ROMs
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Which version of TWRP should I be using for now?
How do I verify which firmware am I using?
jkidz91 said:
Which version of TWRP should I be using for now?
How do I verify which firmware am I using?
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What are your current hboot and radio baseband numbers?
Do you know what Android version you were on (4.4.2, 4.4.3, etc.) before you unlocked the bootloader and started flashing ROMs?
redpoint73 said:
What are your current hboot and radio baseband numbers?
Do you know what Android version you were on (4.4.2, 4.4.3, etc.) before you unlocked the bootloader and started flashing ROMs?
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Current hboot is 3.19.0.0000
Radio baseband: 1.25.21331147A1.06G_20.69.4196.01_F
Previously should be on 4.4.2...I guess...ROM version 1.54.707.7
jkidz91 said:
Current hboot is 3.19.0.0000
Radio baseband: 1.25.21331147A1.06G_20.69.4196.01_F
Previously should be on 4.4.2...I guess...ROM version 1.54.707.7
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Your hboot and radio numbers indicate your phone was either purchased with Lollipop firmware, or updated to LP firmware at some point.
You should use the latest version TWRP 2.8.7.
redpoint73 said:
Your hboot and radio numbers indicate your phone was either purchased with Lollipop firmware, or updated to LP firmware at some point.
You should use the latest version TWRP 2.8.7.
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Yea, I upgraded to LP through phone update once.
Btw, I installed the latest version of TWRP as u said and was prompt by it by saying "TWRP has detected an unmodified system partition" and for permission to allow modifications...should I allow it?
jkidz91 said:
Yea, I upgraded to LP through phone update once.
Btw, I installed the latest version of TWRP as u said and was prompt by it by saying "TWRP has detected an unmodified system partition" and for permission to allow modifications...should I allow it?
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I haven't seen this before, its a new feature for 2.8.7 (which you can have Googled just as easily as I just did):
we have created a new feature in TWRP that detects if the system partition has ever been mounted read/write. If not, you will be prompted asking if you want TWRP to mount system as read/write. If you choose not to allow TWRP to mount as read/write, TWRP won’t prompt to install SuperSU and TWRP won’t try to patch the stock ROM to prevent TWRP from being replaced by stock recovery.
https://twrp.me/site/update/2015/06/22/twrp-2.8.7.0-released.html
Its actually not at all clear anymore what you are trying to do. You've posted in 2 or 3 different threads, asking about flashing firmware, running the RUU, or now you've flashed TWRP and maybe flashing an old 1.54 based ROM? Can't tell what your plan or end goal is at this time; and I'm not sure you know either.
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I haven't seen this before, its a new feature for 2.8.7 (which you can have Googled just as easily as I just did):
we have created a new feature in TWRP that detects if the system partition has ever been mounted read/write. If not, you will be prompted asking if you want TWRP to mount system as read/write. If you choose not to allow TWRP to mount as read/write, TWRP won’t prompt to install SuperSU and TWRP won’t try to patch the stock ROM to prevent TWRP from being replaced by stock recovery.
https://twrp.me/site/update/2015/06/22/twrp-2.8.7.0-released.html
Its actually not at all clear anymore what you are trying to do. You've posted in 2 or 3 different threads, asking about flashing firmware, running the RUU, or now you've flashed TWRP and maybe flashing an old 1.54 based ROM? Can't tell what your plan or end goal is at this time; and I'm not sure you know either.
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Basically my goal is to update my phone to LP..sorry for the confusion caused. I have managed to update the phone according to the link you gave as for the TWRP, I did some Google search as well...and decided not to allow the function...am I doing correct on this?
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Basically my goal is to update my phone to LP..sorry for the confusion caused. I have managed to update the phone according to the link you gave
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Meaning you updated by RUU?
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as for the TWRP, I did some Google search as well...and decided not to allow the function...am I doing correct on this?
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So you updated (apparently) to LP by RUU. Now what are you trying to do? Its still not clear.
Are you trying to root? If so, I'd allow the change, and then flash SuperSU 2.46 to root.
The text and link I provided is pretty clear about the mentioned TWRP function. The main reason to say "no" is to have a fully stock image, of which you can make a nandroid backup. Otherwise, you will probably want to pick "yes".
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Meaning you updated by RUU?
So you updated (apparently) to LP by RUU. Now what are you trying to do? Its still not clear.
Are you trying to root? If so, I'd allow the change, and then flash SuperSU 2.46 to root.
The text and link I provided is pretty clear about the mentioned TWRP function. The main reason to say "no" is to have a fully stock image, of which you can make a nandroid backup. Otherwise, you will probably want to pick "yes".
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Correct me if I am wrong, if I would want to later on update my phone to higher OS, I should not allow TWRP to mount the system..correct?
Currently my situation is, I did not allow TWRP to do the mounting and I rooted the phone...and everything is working fine so far...does that mean I am safe?
jkidz91 said:
Correct me if I am wrong, if I would want to later on update my phone to higher OS, I should not allow TWRP to mount the system..correct?
Currently my situation is, I did not allow TWRP to do the mounting and I rooted the phone...and everything is working fine so far...does that mean I am safe?
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If its working fine (for whatever purposed you need root), than you're good.
Although obviously, if you want to modify the system partition in the future, you will need write protection for that partition disabled.
You can always make a stock TWRP backup (which you should do, anyway) with the system unmounted, to return to for future OTA. Or return to stock using the RUU.
You also need the stock recovery to update by OTA. So your phone is not going to OTA update (update will fail) in its present configuration (with TWRP installed), regardless.
redpoint73 said:
If its working fine (for whatever purposed you need root), than you're good.
Although obviously, if you want to modify the system partition in the future, you will need write protection for that partition disabled.
You can always make a stock TWRP backup (which you should do, anyway) with the system unmounted, to return to for future OTA. Or return to stock using the RUU.
You also need the stock recovery to update by OTA. So your phone is not going to OTA update (update will fail) in its present configuration (with TWRP installed), regardless.
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I need the Titanium backup to recover my apps and data ><
Hmmm..TWRP backup of the ROM...this is what you are talking about right?
Before that, does that mean that if the system has been tampered before, the OTA will not go in? This is what the link you gave just now talking about?
About the stock recovery, I am fully aware of this
I am really sorry if I keep causing trouble to you...I just want to double confirm...I have spent few days just to get my phone for working right...really exhausting to the mind ><
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Hmmm..TWRP backup of the ROM...this is what you are talking about right?
Before that, does that mean that if the system has been tampered before, the OTA will not go in? This is what the link you gave just now talking about?
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Yes, the new feature seems to be aimed at ensuring the ROM is untampered, for making a full "stock" backup for OTA purposes.
jkidz91 said:
I am really sorry if I keep causing trouble to you...
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No trouble at all. If I didn't enjoy helping, I wouldn't bother responding.
redpoint73 said:
Yes, the new feature seems to be aimed at ensuring the ROM is untampered, for making a full "stock" backup for OTA purposes.
No trouble at all. If I didn't enjoy helping, I wouldn't bother responding.
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Got it! Whenever I do back up, do I need to back up the data? As I already got the Titanium to backup all my user apps.
What I am saying is the recovery let me choose what to back up...I chose only system, and boot i think...
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No trouble at all. If I didn't enjoy helping, I wouldn't bother responding.
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Hi, after updating to Lollipop and using it for past few days, everything seems to be working fine...however, I have got a slight issue with Facebook app...whenever I am on my mobile data, I will have error loading the latest news feed. It is working fine on WiFi.
I have tested loading other apps with Mobile Data only...and they are working fine...I have researched online and some said I shall do a factory reset before and after a major update to OS...should I do this?
jkidz91 said:
Got it! Whenever I do back up, do I need to back up the data? As I already got the Titanium to backup all my user apps.
What I am saying is the recovery let me choose what to back up...I chose only system, and boot i think...
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If the intent was to just backup a "stock ROM" than no need to backup user data.
If the intent is to make a recovery image, that you can just revert to and start using with no (or very little other actions) than backup data. But as you said, you can restore data (at least app data) with Titanium.
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jkidz91 said:
Hi, after updating to Lollipop and using it for past few days, everything seems to be working fine...however, I have got a slight issue with Facebook app...whenever I am on my mobile data, I will have error loading the latest news feed. It is working fine on WiFi.
I have tested loading other apps with Mobile Data only...and they are working fine...I have researched online and some said I shall do a factory reset before and after a major update to OS...should I do this?
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If you updated by RUU then no need to factory reset. RUU already wiped all partitions, in a much more comprehensive way than factory reset.
Try clearing app cache for Facebook; or uninstalling Facebook app, and reinstalling, without restore data for that app with Titanium.
redpoint73 said:
If you updated by RUU then no need to factory reset. RUU already wiped all partitions, in a much more comprehensive way than factory reset.
Try clearing app cache for Facebook; or uninstalling Facebook app, and reinstalling, without restore data for that app with Titanium.
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Tried doing so...not working...anyway, can I run the RUU again to wipe off the entire phone and set up as new?
jkidz91 said:
Tried doing so...not working...anyway, can I run the RUU again to wipe off the entire phone and set up as new?
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You can run the RUU until the cows come home, if you want.
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You can run the RUU until the cows come home, if you want.
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What does that mean? >< i tried to do it...it failed...should I just download a stock 4.19.707.2 rom and flash it?
I'm sure there's a guide somewhere but I couldn't find one clear enough. I recently got my HTC 10 to replace my Galaxy S4 GPE and have a question. This is my first update after rooting my phone, and I received an OTA message today. With my s4, all i needed to do to update was use ODIN. I know it's different with the HTC 10, but want to be 100% sure I'm doing this right. From what I've read I need to:
1. Mount system as read only via twrp and restore my original system-image (which I did make)
2. Flash stock recovery
3. Boot into Android and take the OTA.
4. Flash TWRP and make a backup in read only mode of system-image (for the sake of convenience with future OTAs)
5. Flash supersu.
Is this right? I read some where that having an unlocked bootloader would make an error occur when taking the OTA. Is this right? How do you guys update? Does flashfire work with HTC 10 and how do I use it? I'm s-on, does that matter? I have the factory unlocked version of the HTC 10. I'm terrified of something going wrong during the update process. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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I'm sure there's a guide somewhere but I couldn't find one clear enough. I recently got my HTC 10 to replace my Galaxy S4 GPE and have a question. This is my first update after rooting my phone, and I received an OTA message today. With my s4, all i needed to do to update was use ODIN. I know it's different with the HTC 10, but want to be 100% sure I'm doing this right. From what I've read I need to:
1. Mount system as read only via twrp and restore my original system-image (which I did make)
2. Flash stock recovery
3. Boot into Android and take the OTA.
4. Flash TWRP and make a backup in read only mode of system-image (for the sake of convenience with future OTAs)
5. Flash supersu.
Is this right? I read some where that having an unlocked bootloader would make an error occur when taking the OTA. Is this right? How do you guys update? Does flashfire work with HTC 10 and how do I use it? I'm s-on, does that matter? I have the factory unlocked version of the HTC 10. I'm terrified of something going wrong during the update process. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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That's exactly right.
Never relock your bootloader. It's completely unnecessary and can only cause problems if you don't know exactly what you're doing. And again, it's completely unnecessary. People love to throw that idea out as a troubleshooting suggestion. Don't do it.
That's exactly how I update.
Used flashify to root my Samsung tablet once. I've never used it once on any of my HTC devices, so I can't offer any advice on that. I don't really see why it would be necessary though.
S-on/off does not matter for this process.
I hope this answers all of your questions. Good luck.
jollywhitefoot said:
That's exactly right.
Never relock your bootloader. It's completely unnecessary and can only cause problems if you don't know exactly what you're doing. And again, it's completely unnecessary. People love to throw that idea out as a troubleshooting suggestion. Don't do it.
That's exactly how I update.
Used flashify to root my Samsung tablet once. I've never used it once on any of my HTC devices, so I can't offer any advice on that. I don't really see why it would be necessary though.
S-on/off does not matter for this process.
I hope this answers all of your questions. Good luck.
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Unfortunately the error I read about mentioning a modified file system showed up. I followed this guide and got errors and managed to recover from a bootloop. I think I will just wait a while and use a RUU to restore and update.
EDIT: and now I get the same error with my old backup. I think I messed up the "mount system as read only" part because I do remember flashing System over but if it was read only it should have given me an error?
Kryztof said:
Unfortunately the error I read about mentioning a modified file system showed up. I followed this guide and got errors and managed to recover from a bootloop. I think I will just wait a while and use a RUU to restore and update.
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Well I wrote that guide, so if you want to post what you did over in that thread I'll be happy to help you out. If you're US Unlocked that method should work 100%. I've never heard of anyone getting a bootloop from it.
U probably flashed a wrong stock recovery or something.
Would the steps described in the first post work for international HTC 10 (Europe) ?
CroCop18 said:
U probably flashed a wrong stock recovery or something.
Would the steps described in the first post work for international HTC 10 (Europe) ?
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You're talking about in this guide?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/guide-how-to-ota-receive-corrupt-message-t3378187
If you're interested in testing something, post over there. Short answer is no, the instructions in the OP have not worked on International devices. But @Captain_Throwback just posted an idea that might work.
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You're talking about in this guide?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/guide-how-to-ota-receive-corrupt-message-t3378187
Short answer is no, the instructions in the OP have not worked on International devices.
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Then how to revert an int. HTC 10 (1.90.401.5.) back to stock ? I have my system image backup and original recovery for my version...
Why does this have to be so complicated -.-
CroCop18 said:
Then how to revert an int. HTC 10 (1.90.401.5.) back to stock ? I have my system image backup and original recovery for my version...
Why does this have to be so complicated -.-
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/htc-10-stock-rom-ruu-t3378240/page5
Mr Hofs said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/htc-10-stock-rom-ruu-t3378240/page5
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So flashing a RUU.zip is the only way for int. HTC 10 ?
CroCop18 said:
Then how to revert an int. HTC 10 (1.90.401.5.) back to stock ? I have my system image backup and original recovery for my version...
Why does this have to be so complicated -.-
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It's not that complicated. Are you getting the System Corrupt error when you try to download the OTA?
If so, you have a few options for updating.
1) try the experimental option I'm working on in this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/guide-how-to-ota-receive-corrupt-message-t3378187)
2) RUU (the 1.90 ruu is available now I think, but if not, just use 1.80 then OTA
3) flash signed firmware to update your firmware and then use someone's system backup to update the system files
jollywhitefoot said:
It's not that complicated. Are you getting the System Corrupt error when you try to download the OTA?
If so, you have a few options for updating.
1) try the experimental option I'm working on in this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/guide-how-to-ota-receive-corrupt-message-t3378187)
2) RUU (the 1.90 ruu is available now I think, but if not, just use 1.80 then OTA
3) flash signed firmware to update your firmware and then use someone's system backup to update the system files
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Im not getting any error, I`m just checking on how to revert back to stock and not screw up something in the process lol.
I thought you can only flash an RUU which main version is the same as your phone or newer (capt. throwback wrote that in his twrp topic).
Anyway, looks like flashing an RUU is the safest way.
CroCop18 said:
Im not getting any error, I`m just checking on how to revert back to stock and not screw up something in the process lol.
I thought you can only flash an RUU which main version is the same as your phone or newer (capt. throwback wrote that in his twrp topic).
Anyway, looks like flashing an RUU is the safest way.
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That's correct about the RUU needing to be same or newer. What are you currently on? I assumed since you're wwe and trying to OTA then you were on 1.80.401.3.
RUU is definitely the safest way.
Hey there,
I've got my first HTC device some days ago (-> HTC 10), but coming from a Nexus 5 where things are handled differently, I'm currently quite confused on how all of this works with my HTC 10.
I'd like to apologize in advance if the following questions seem to be stupid or unnecessary, but I'd like to use my device to the fullest and therefore I need your help.
My device is not branded (as far as I can tell) and I've already unlocked it via the steps on htcdev.com + I've installed TWRP + SuperSU (thanks to my previous knowledge with my N5 this was somewhat easy).
Now I got my first OTA update and this is when things got complicated. Several questions popped up and I tried to answer them myself while looking over here, but after reading all those threads I'm even more confused than before :/
My questions are the following:
1) Is there any way to manually update your device with the newest OTA update WITHOUT losing any data? (see question 2)
2) Do I need a microSD card in order to do so? I've seen several YT videos where they did a backup of the current system, but there still was a data wipe after flashing, so why even bother doing a backup at all?
3) My device is unlocked but with S-ON. Do I need S-OFF after all? As far as I can tell I don't need this, but is there any scenario I'd probably need it? (see question 4)
4) I'm thinking about getting a custom rom (Leedroid seems to be pretty decent). Can you recommend any of those custom roms and do I need S-OFF in order to flash them?
5) S-OFF + Locked or S-OFF + Unlocked? What's the difference? Any issues with the warranty?
6) If I do use a custom rom (e.g. Leedroid), is there also a way to update it to further versions without losing any data?
7) Where do I get the latest firmware for manually updating my device? I've already found a thread for it (http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/stock-stock-collection-recovery-ruu-ota-t3359297), but my current firmware (1.90.401.5) or the one for the OTA update that already popped up (1.95.401.3) isn't listed over there. [EDIT: found my current firmware. Do I need to flash to it in order to do the OTA update?)
8) One last general question: as far as I understand it, unlocking your device is also the same as debranding it? I'm not sure if I'm mixing things up when reading about this. Is there any way to see if my device was branded before I did unlock/root it though?
I'm completely fine with losing my current data if that means that I can set it up my device in such a way that I can avoid any further data wipes when flasing/updating.
I'd be absolutely grateful if someone would answer those questions and help me to understand all of this.
Greetings,
makit_
1) Yes..you can apply the OTA manually, which won't flash the firmware image in the update but you can then find a no-wipe version of the new firmware on xda and flash it. Check out the faq in the twrp thread
2) for flashing firmware packages generally yes its better to have an SD card but I *think* it's possible to do it by issuing fastboot commands
3) s-off is needed if you wanna flash a new firmware I believe
4) you don't need S-off to flash a new ROM that's compatible with your firmware. Leedroid should work for you (this answer can be easily found by checking out each ROM thread and reading the Prerequisites section)
5) yes, most of the time you can "dirty flash" a new version of the same rom on top of the old one without wiping. If any issues pop up, or if it's a new base with large differences, then a wipe is needed. You can usually tell if a wipe is required by checking out what the developer says in the thread when a new updated is posted
6) I'm sure it's in a thread somewhere, you gotta search (I think sneakyghost's thread might have them)! And again you need S-off if you wanna flash firmwares
not an expert but here's my thoughts...
1) Is there any way to manually update your device with the newest OTA update WITHOUT losing any data? (see question 2) Yes. But if you want official update from HTC or your carrier via OTA you should be on stock. If you're on custom ROM, you can always dirty flash. But updating to a newer build, ROM dev sometimes recommend a full wipe
2) Do I need a microSD card in order to do so? I've seen several YT videos where they did a backup of the current system, but there still was a data wipe after flashing, so why even bother doing a backup at all?
SD card is not a requirement but is recommended since a full back-up size is ranging from 5gb-10gb maybe more depending in how many apps you installed. Backup is also recommended so you can always go back/restore your working ROM in case you messed up updating.
3) My device is unlocked but with S-ON. Do I need S-OFF after all? As far as I can tell I don't need this, but is there any scenario I'd probably need it? (see question 4). You need s-off mostly on updating your firmware or converting your device to other carrier or if you want to be unlocked. Right now you can flash any custom roms you like since we do not have a major update yet eg.1.x to 2.x. Once 2.x firmware is released, You can easily flash this firmware. But if you're S-ON, you can only update your firmware via official OTA from your carrier or if @Sneakyghost provide specific firmware for your carrier (matching cid and mid) in this thread else you're stock at 1.x firmware and ROMs that will only work on that specific firmware.
4) I'm thinking about getting a custom rom (Leedroid seems to be pretty decent). Can you recommend any of those custom roms and do I need S-OFF in order to flash them? See my answer in #3
5) S-OFF + Locked or S-OFF + Unlocked? What's the difference? Any issues with the warranty? If you're S-off you can always revert back to S-on and return to stock for warranty purposes.
6) If I do use a custom rom (e.g. Leedroid), is there also a way to update it to further versions without losing any data? Yes. see also #1
7) Where do I get the latest firmware for manually updating my device? I've already found a thread for it (http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-...u-ota-t3359297), but my current firmware (1.90.401.5) or the one for the OTA update that already popped up (1.95.401.3) isn't listed over there. [EDIT: found my current firmware. Do I need to flash to it in order to do the OTA update?)See @Sneakyghost thread linked in #3. Firmware updating can be done via OTA or via fastboot(firmware zip can be downloaded) or full RUU (updating both ROM and firmware).
8) One last general question: as far as I understand it, unlocking your device is also the same as debranding it? I'm not sure if I'm mixing things up when reading about this. Is there any way to see if my device was branded before I did unlock/root it though? I think you meant sim unlocking here?? Generally, "unlocking" mostly mentioned in xda refers to bootloader
Tarima said:
1) Yes..you can apply the OTA manually, which won't flash the firmware image in the update but you can then find a no-wipe version of the new firmware on xda and flash it. Check out the faq in the twrp thread
2) for flashing firmware packages generally yes its better to have an SD card but I *think* it's possible to do it by issuing fastboot commands
3) s-off is needed if you wanna flash a new firmware I believe
4) you don't need S-off to flash a new ROM that's compatible with your firmware. Leedroid should work for you (this answer can be easily found by checking out each ROM thread and reading the Prerequisites section)
5) yes, most of the time you can "dirty flash" a new version of the same rom on top of the old one without wiping. If any issues pop up, or if it's a new base with large differences, then a wipe is needed. You can usually tell if a wipe is required by checking out what the developer says in the thread when a new updated is posted
6) I'm sure it's in a thread somewhere, you gotta search (I think sneakyghost's thread might have them)! And again you need S-off if you wanna flash firmwares
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Thanks for your response! The numeration is wrong though as I edited my post while you were already typing your answers, but I figured it out nonetheless
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side_flip15 said:
1) Is there any way to manually update your device with the newest OTA update WITHOUT losing any data? (see question 2) Yes. But if you want official update from HTC or your carrier via OTA you should be on stock. If you're on custom ROM, you can always dirty flash. But updating to a newer build, ROM dev sometimes recommend a full wipe
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When using a custom ROM, is it also possible to save your data so you can restore it after the full wipe?
side_flip15 said:
2) Do I need a microSD card in order to do so? I've seen several YT videos where they did a backup of the current system, but there still was a data wipe after flashing, so why even bother doing a backup at all?
SD card is not a requirement but is recommended since a full back-up size is ranging from 5gb-10gb maybe more depending in how many apps you installed. Backup is also recommended so you can always go back/restore your working ROM in case you messed up updating.
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As far as I can tell, when doing a backup, you dont save your data 'partition' as it is encrypted anyways. Do I assume right that when doing a backup, I cannot restore my data I had before doing the flash?
side_flip15 said:
3) My device is unlocked but with S-ON. Do I need S-OFF after all? As far as I can tell I don't need this, but is there any scenario I'd probably need it? (see question 4). You need s-off mostly on updating your firmware or converting your device to other carrier or if you want to be unlocked. Right now you can flash any custom roms you like since we do not have a major update yet eg.1.x to 2.x. Once 2.x firmware is released, You can easily flash this firmware. But if you're S-ON, you can only update your firmware via official OTA from your carrier or if @Sneakyghost provide specific firmware for your carrier (matching cid and mid) in this thread else you're stock at 1.x firmware and ROMs that will only work on that specific firmware.
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I've already seen the sunshine thread which is about turning S-OFF. While it is possible to go back to S-ON, it was recommended to let your device stay in S-OFF. Is there a high risk in bricking your device when trying to go back to S-ON?
side_flip15 said:
4) I'm thinking about getting a custom rom (Leedroid seems to be pretty decent). Can you recommend any of those custom roms and do I need S-OFF in order to flash them? See my answer in #3
5) S-OFF + Locked or S-OFF + Unlocked? What's the difference? Any issues with the warranty? If you're S-off you can always revert back to S-on and return to stock for warranty purposes.
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As far as I know, doing so will void your warranty. Won't they notice if I just revert it myself and then send it in for warranty?
side_flip15 said:
7) Where do I get the latest firmware for manually updating my device? I've already found a thread for it (http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-...u-ota-t3359297), but my current firmware (1.90.401.5) or the one for the OTA update that already popped up (1.95.401.3) isn't listed over there. [EDIT: found my current firmware. Do I need to flash to it in order to do the OTA update?)See @Sneakyghost thread linked in #3. Firmware updating can be done via OTA or via fastboot(firmware zip can be downloaded) or full RUU (updating both ROM and firmware).
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Sorry this might be a rather dumb question, but I always thought ROM and firmware are the same thing. Or is it that updating my device via OTA is updating my firmware, while installing something like Leedroid is altering my ROM?
Again, thanks for all your responses in advance! You're helping me out a lot!
Greetings,
makit_
When using a custom ROM, is it also possible to save your data so you can restore it after the full wipe?
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its possible but there's possibility that you might have some issue. Not sure though, never done that. I always use titanium backup to restore my apps.
As far as I can tell, when doing a backup, you dont save your data 'partition' as it is encrypted anyways. Do I assume right that when doing a backup, I cannot restore my data I had before doing the flash?
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Data partition can be backed up actually and can be restored.
I've already seen the sunshine thread which is about turning S-OFF. While it is possible to go back to S-ON, it was recommended to let your device stay in S-OFF. Is there a high risk in bricking your device when trying to go back to S-ON?
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Agree. there is no sense in reverting back to s-on unless if it's for warranty purposes.
Is there a high risk in bricking your device when trying to go back to S-ON?
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I would say NO. I never used sunshine to s-off. I am using a hardware s-off and I did not experience any issue going back to s-on.
As far as I know, doing so will void your warranty. Won't they notice if I just revert it myself and then send it in for warranty?
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On the device itself, I don't think so as long as you return it in full stock state. But if I remember correctly HTC dev requires you to provide your imei when requesting for unlock token bin file used to unlock bootloader, So if your unlock you device via HTC dev they have your imei in their record. They know that you already unlocked your device and warranty is void already.
Sorry this might be a rather dumb question, but I always thought ROM and firmware are the same thing
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Take a look at this link. It provides you a complete explanation between ROM and Firmware.
Or is it that updating my device via OTA is updating my firmware, while installing something like Leedroid is altering my ROM?
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Updating via official OTA usually updates ROM and firmware.
Installing a custom rom does not update firmware. Yes, it only alters ROM. But your ROM should always match your firmware at least the first digit of the firmware version (eg. 1.xx). For instance Android N (firmware veraion to be 2.x) arrives and LeeDroid updates its ROM to this, to be able to flash this latest custom rom, your firmware should also be at latest 2.x firmware else it will not boot. In this case, you need to update your firmware either via OTA, Fastboot or RUU.
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Thanks for your response! The numeration is wrong though as I edited my post while you were already typing your answers, but I figured it out nonetheless
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When using a custom ROM, is it also possible to save your data so you can restore it after the full wipe?
As far as I can tell, when doing a backup, you dont save your data 'partition' as it is encrypted anyways. Do I assume right that when doing a backup, I cannot restore my data I had before doing the flash?
I've already seen the sunshine thread which is about turning S-OFF. While it is possible to go back to S-ON, it was recommended to let your device stay in S-OFF. Is there a high risk in bricking your device when trying to go back to S-ON?
As far as I know, doing so will void your warranty. Won't they notice if I just revert it myself and then send it in for warranty?
Sorry this might be a rather dumb question, but I always thought ROM and firmware are the same thing. Or is it that updating my device via OTA is updating my firmware, while installing something like Leedroid is altering my ROM?
Again, thanks for all your responses in advance! You're helping me out a lot!
Greetings,
makit_
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Thats a thing that iam also interested in. Iam also new to htc.
I think with firmware they mean bootloader. But nobody gave me a good answer till now...
side_flip15 said:
its possible but there's possibility that you might have some issue. Not sure though, never done that. I always use titanium backup to restore my apps.
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I know that app by name, but never used it. Will take a look into it
side_flip15 said:
I would say NO. I never used sunshine to s-off. I am using a hardware s-off and I did not experience any issue going back to s-on.
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Do you mean like this? (found in another forum):
1. First step is to unlock bootloader:
a) If bootloader unlock is turned off on your phone, you need to turn it on first:
- Boot to Android OS and perform initial setup if necessary
- Go to Menu -> Developer settings and tick "Enable OEM unlock"
Run XTC 2 Tool and open "Bootloader unlock" tab, follow instructions to unlock your bootloader.
2. Reboot to download mode, open "HTC 10" tab and install twrp recovery, you can get it here:
[...]
or
[...]
3. Boot to Bootloader, and press "Reboot to recovery".
4. In "HTC 10" tab press "Do S-OFF button".
5. Wait for the process to finish. Done.
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On the device itself, I don't think so as long as you return it in full stock state. But if I remember correctly HTC dev requires you to provide your imei when requesting for unlock token bin file used to unlock bootloader, So if your unlock you device via HTC dev they have your imei in their record. They know that you already unlocked your device and warranty is void already.
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Yeah, I've done it this way. Sucks. But maybe it's not this bad at all. As I'm trying to be safe anyway, I probably only need to make use of the warranty if I'd accidentally drop my device. Those cases are still valid for warranty as far as I can tell (extract from the htcdev.com site: 'Please understand that you will not be able to return your device to the original state and going forward your device may not be held covered under the warranty for all claims resulting from the unlocking of the bootloader.'). Do you also know anything about this?
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Take a look at [... ]this link[/URL]. It provides you a complete explanation between ROM and Firmware.
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Thanks, will look into it.
side_flip15 said:
Updating via official OTA usually updates ROM and firmware.
Installing a custom rom does not update firmware. Yes, it only alters ROM. But your ROM should always match your firmware at least the first digit of the firmware version (eg. 1.xx). For instance Android N (firmware veraion to be 2.x) arrives and LeeDroid updates its ROM to this, to be able to flash this latest custom rom, your firmware should also be at latest 2.x firmware else it will not boot. In this case, you need to update your firmware either via OTA, Fastboot or RUU.
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Good to know. So in order to use the latest Leedroid and get rid of that OTA update notification, I should do the following:
1) Go back to stock (flash via RUU)
2) Hardware S-OFF (see above)
3) Flash latest OTA update
4) Custom Recovery again (TWRP) + Root (SuperSU)
5) Install latest Leedroid (have to read about it first, but afaik I have to install the zip of it via TWRP)
6) done
Is this correct or are there any mistakes?
And thanks a ton, you've helped me so much already!
Greetings,
makit_
makit_ said:
1) Is there any way to manually update your device with the newest OTA update WITHOUT losing any data? (see question 2)
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If you are stock with only SU, then this is how I've gone about installing OTAs without wiping data:
1. Download ota (Settings>About>Software Updates) and move downloaded OTA from /data/data/com.htc.updater/files to sd card
2. In TWRP restore stock 'System Image' and 'Boot'
3. Reboot to Downloader
4. Flash stock recovery (fastboot.exe flash recovery xxx.img) --> can use current ota.zip > extract firmware.img from zip (if using 7zip -> rename .zip to .rar to extract fw)
5. Reboot to stock recovery
6. Install OTA in stock recovery
7. Reboot to Downloader
8. Reinstall TWRP (fastboot.exe flash recovery twrpxxx.img)
9. Backup stock 'System Image' and 'Boot'
10. In TWRP reflash SuperSu/Xposed/etc
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If you are stock with only SU, then this is how I've gone about installing OTAs without wiping data:
1. Download ota (Settings>About>Software Updates) and move downloaded OTA from /data/data/com.htc.updater/files to sd card
2. In TWRP restore stock 'System Image' and 'Boot'
3. Reboot to Downloader
4. Flash stock recovery (fastboot.exe flash recovery xxx.img) --> can use current ota.zip > extract firmware.img from zip (if using 7zip -> rename .zip to .rar to extract fw)
5. Reboot to stock recovery
6. Install OTA in stock recovery
7. Reboot to Downloader
8. Reinstall TWRP (fastboot.exe flash recovery twrpxxx.img)
9. Backup stock 'System Image' and 'Boot'
10. In TWRP reflash SuperSu/Xposed/etc
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This sounds very convenient and not far too different than what I was used to with my N5. Guess I'll give it a go! Already found a way to disable the HTC lock screen http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/help/disable-htc-10-lockscreen-t3418108 (which is annoying especially when using a different launcher as the lock screen background is still the one from the stock launcher). Only thing bugging me now is that BoomSound notification, but I guess I can live with that
makit_ said:
This sounds very convenient and not far too different than what I was used to with my N5. Guess I'll give it a go! Already found a way to disable the HTC lock screen http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/help/disable-htc-10-lockscreen-t3418108 (which is annoying especially when using a different launcher as the lock screen background is still the one from the stock launcher). Only thing bugging me now is that BoomSound notification, but I guess I can live with that
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may look at installing XPosed as they have a module "XNotifications" that lets you hide any type of notification
yankee1390 said:
may look at installing XPosed as they have a module "XNotifications" that lets you hide any type of notification
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Will also look into this. I've used Xposed on my N5 but wasn't sure the HTC 10 is already fully supported (have read something about that, but those threads were already 3-4 months old). Thanks!
So I'm trying to do the step-by-step instructions from yankee1390 because I guess that's the easiest way for me to handle things. Now I've already got my first (and hopefully only) issue with it: I did no backup when I first installed TWRP and before I've rooted my device. So in order to accomplisch step 2) (restore stock system image + boot in TWRP), can I use the files from the RUU provided here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/stock-stock-collection-recovery-ruu-ota-t3359297?
I've found the one matching my current firmware (1.90.401.5), so is it ok if I use those for step 2?
And by the way, I guess I have to do a backup after every OTA update (and before rooting) so I always have the right files for restoring, huh?
Greetings,
makit_
edit: may have found the solution to it Will update once I'm done.
makit_ said:
So I'm trying to do the step-by-step instructions from yankee1390 because I guess that's the easiest way for me to handle things. Now I've already got my first (and hopefully only) issue with it: I did no backup when I first installed TWRP and before I've rooted my device. So in order to accomplisch step 2) (restore stock system image + boot in TWRP), can I use the files from the RUU provided here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/stock-stock-collection-recovery-ruu-ota-t3359297?
I've found the one matching my current firmware (1.90.401.5), so is it ok if I use those for step 2?
And by the way, I guess I have to do a backup after every OTA update (and before rooting) so I always have the right files for restoring, huh?
Greetings,
makit_
edit: may have found the solution to it Will update once I'm done.
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Link didn't work on my app so can't confirm if that will work. However any TWRP stock backup that matches your current version should work. RUUs will wipe your data if you use them.
Definitely good idea to backup after each ota before modifying system partition to make next ota easier. Though usually someone on here can provide a backup if you don't get one.
I know that app by name, but never used it. Will take a look into it
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i suggest you purchase a pro version. It's a really a must-have app
Do you mean like this? (found in another forum):
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Yes. This is the process how to s-off using xtc2clip - A very handy tool that works almost every HTC devices. Support is great too.
Yeah, I've done it this way. Sucks. But maybe it's not this bad at all. As I'm trying to be safe anyway, I probably only need to make use of the warranty if I'd accidentally drop my device. Those cases are still valid for warranty as far as I can tell (extract from the htcdev.com site: 'Please understand that you will not be able to return your device to the original state and going forward your device may not be held covered under the warranty for all claims resulting from the unlocking of the bootloader.'). Do you also know anything about this?
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Yeah. They might not know we can s-off. lol
Good to know. So in order to use the latest Leedroid and get rid of that OTA update notification
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If you mean OTA notification from HTC, most of the custom ROMs already disabled that, I believe. And they provide you with their own OTA update (Not all, some do. Like ViperRom)
I should do the following:
1) Go back to stock (flash via RUU)
2) Hardware S-OFF (see above)
3) Flash latest OTA update
4) Custom Recovery again (TWRP) + Root (SuperSU)
5) Install latest Leedroid (have to read about it first, but afaik I have to install the zip of it via TWRP)
6) done
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This is correct but there is an easier way after you s-offed.
1. Download the latest firmware.zip, if you're not on the latest yet. Flash it via fastboot commands in download.
mode. Instruction is available in the link I provided earlier in @Sneakyghost firmware thread.
2. Flash TWRP.
3. Download your desired custom ROM (LeeDroid). This is in .zip file.
4. Reboot to recovery, wipe data/factory reset then flash the LeeDroid.zip. Just follow the instructions in aroma.
by the way, if you'll flash firmware.zip make you select the matching CID and MID of your device. You might end up bricking your device flashing a wrong firmware. If you can provide me your CID and MID, I'll link you to the correct firmware for your device. To do so, reboot to bootloader and type the following commands in cmd, remove your IMEI and SN and post the result here.
And thanks a ton, you've helped me so much already!
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You are welcome.
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I never done updating software via HTC official update. I don't know but for me I don't see any reason sticking to stock ROM. There are a lot of custom ROMs out there tweaked for better performance and battery life. They are also always updated to latest build.
side_flip15 said:
i suggest you purchase a pro version. It's a really a must-have app
Yes. This is the process how to s-off using xtc2clip - A very handy tool that works almost every HTC devices. Support is great too.
Yeah. They might not know we can s-off. lol
If you mean OTA notification from HTC, most of the custom ROMs already disabled that, I believe. And they provide you with their own OTA update (Not all, some do. Like ViperRom)
This is correct but there is an easier way after you s-offed.
1. Download the latest firmware.zip, if you're not on the latest yet. Flash it via fastboot commands in download.
mode. Instruction is available in the link I provided earlier in @Sneakyghost firmware thread.
2. Flash TWRP.
3. Download your desired custom ROM (LeeDroid). This is in .zip file.
4. Reboot to recovery, wipe data/factory reset then flash the LeeDroid.zip. Just follow the instructions in aroma.
by the way, if you'll flash firmware.zip make you select the matching CID and MID of your device. You might end up bricking your device flashing a wrong firmware. If you can provide me your CID and MID, I'll link you to the correct firmware for your device. To do so, reboot to bootloader and type the following commands in cmd, remove your IMEI and SN and post the result here.
You are welcome.
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Thanks for all your help. I will look into it when I need it. For now I'll stick with stock (see below)
side_flip15 said:
I never done updating software via HTC official update. I don't know but for me I don't see any reason sticking to stock ROM. There are a lot of custom ROMs out there tweaked for better performance and battery life. They are also always updated to latest build.
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I love using stock android, that's why I also loved using my Nexus 5. I used CyanogenMod with another device many years ago but I am willing to use a custom ROM for my HTC 10, but only after I already know how it feels with stock ROM. So I will stick with it for several weeks and see how it feels, and when I'm farmiliar with it, I will switch to a custom ROM So thanks a lot, you've given me a lot of information I will still need for further experimenting with my phone!
Piggybacking on this thread because my new-to-me HTC 10 is coming in the mail and I'm planning what to do with it. It is already bootloader unlocked and s-off. I would like to use Leedroid, ElementalX, Magisk, and Xposed.
I've never had an HTC device so I just want to make sure I'm doing this right. So I think this is what I need to do:
1) Flash TWRP via ADB
2) Flash SuperSU in TWRP
3) Flash everything else...Leedroid, ElementX, Xposed, Magisk. In that order? Can I flash them all at once (just keep adding zips to the TWRP list) or do I have to boot between each one?
Xposed is more important to me than a custom ROM, because I need to use Amplify and PowerNap to improve my battery life. Would it be better just to stay on stock instead of Leedroid?
@jrbmed08
TWRP is flashed via fastboot, not ADB.
No need to flash SuperSU via recovery since LeeDroid has root already.
You can flash everything at once.
Sent from my HTC 10
I love using stock android, that's why I also loved using my Nexus 5. I used CyanogenMod with another device many years ago but I am willing to use a custom ROM for my HTC 10, but only after I already know how it feels with stock ROM. So I will stick with it for several weeks and see how it feels, and when I'm farmiliar with it, I will switch to a custom ROM So thanks a lot, you've given me a lot of information I will still need for further experimenting with my phone!
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When I said stock ROM, i meant stock HTC ROM and it's not stock Android. It's a skinned android called HTC sense. . If you want a stock android to run in your HTC 10 you can flash a AOSP based custom ROM.
Magnum_Enforcer said:
@jrbmed08
TWRP is flashed via fastboot, not ADB.
No need to flash SuperSU via recovery since LeeDroid has root already.
You can flash everything at once.
Sent from my HTC 10
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Ah yeah, sorry, fastboot is what I meant. Thank you! I haven't had an unlocked bootloader in quite a while (was using TWRP and Sony stock-based ROMs on a locked Z3c), so it will be interesting to flash kernels and such again.
d_Schizzo said:
Thats a thing that iam also interested in. Iam also new to htc.
I think with firmware they mean bootloader. But nobody gave me a good answer till now...
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not only bootloader, it contains everything. radio.img and any other thing. "low-lewel-stuff", kernel etc, recovery (if stock signed firmware, which is not modded/removed). there are many important things inside.
but firmware is meant for every device the same. it contains everything so that this device can run/work properly.
Hi everyone, first time posting here.
I've recently purchased a HTC 10 from a friend. I'm looking to upgrade it to android version 7
The phone has TWRP recovery but no back up of a stock untouched ROM, ive tried looking for a stock UK H3G ROM (H3G_001) but I've been unable to find 1.
Could someone give me a little help on how to update my phone, possibly an idiot proof step by step guide. i just want the latest version available for my phone.
Thanks
Try this thread from a few weeks ago:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/help/stock-rom-required-htc-10-cid-h3g001-t3627726
Obviously you'd need a stock backup that matches the version you currently have.
Does your phone currently detect an available ota update?
Tarima said:
Does your phone currently detect an available ota update?
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When trying to update it says:
"Can't update software
there was an unexpected error and the file system may be corrupted. please contact HTC support..."
Tarima said:
Try this thread from a few weeks ago:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/help/stock-rom-required-htc-10-cid-h3g001-t3627726
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What would i have to do to use the stock recovery posted on that thread? which files should i use?
I'm running android 6.0.1 and software 1.80.771.1 You've given me hope lol
Billyboy961 said:
What would i have to do to use the stock recovery posted on that thread? which files should i use?
I'm running android 6.0.1 and software 1.80.771.1 You've given me hope lol
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So, if your system is rooted or modified in any way, you'll need to flash a stock system backup, matching the firmware version you currently have. Then flash stock recovery, and you'd be able to take the OTA.
If your system is already untouched, you would just need to flash the stock recovery, again matching your firmware version, and then take the OTA. There is a recovery for 6.0.1 in that link, but I'm not sure if it's for your firmware version. You could try to flash it and see if the OTA works.
Thinking about it more, if you're able to download the ota I think the best thing to do is to flash the OTA using twrp manually. See instructions in the faq located in the twrp thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ht...ery-twrp-touch-recovery-t3358139/post66347165
If you follow the instructions, you should be able to take the OTA including firmware, and not have to worry about restoring anything stock first.
Billyboy961 said:
Hi everyone, first time posting here.
I've recently purchased a HTC 10 from a friend. I'm looking to upgrade it to android version 7
The phone has TWRP recovery but no back up of a stock untouched ROM, ive tried looking for a stock UK H3G ROM (H3G_001) but I've been unable to find 1.
Could someone give me a little help on how to update my phone, possibly an idiot proof step by step guide. i just want the latest version available for my phone.
Thanks
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Is the phone S-Off?
Thanks for the help guys, ive needed my phone over the weekend so i didnt want to touch anything. first thing tomorrow il be trying to get it sorted. im pretty sure its S-ON
I've broke it. i tried installing the 6.0.1 image with twrp and now my phone wont boot and i cant access twrp
Ive put TWRP back on. still unable to boot the phone tho. red triangle with a "!"
i used a custom ROM, im back up and running thank god. leedroid saved me lol