Like a lot of people I found myself with battery woes on the G4, at first my battery was comparable to my G3, if not a little bit better but over time, and certainly since MM was released, my battery life was quite frankly awful.
Long Story
I was losing power rapidly, even when I was barely touching the phone - so I finally decided to look into it. After carefully monitoring apps, wakelocks etc nothing looked out of place, everything was working normally until I installed my old faithful app - SetCPU, this is a nice basic app that just shows what your CPU has clocked too and how long it spent there in a given timescale and one thing alarmed me greatly. I was getting less than one minute of deep sleep in every 60 minutes the phone was running - now if I had been using the phone for 58 minutes of that hour I would expect this, only I hadn't!
I did more testing, and more testing and more testing but the results were the same, the phone barely entered deep sleep, and when it did it didn't stay there very long.
Now as I said, using all the other apps, and android stats, nothing looked particularly out of place and after a few days of trying everything under the sun to fix the problem I decided to go nuclear. I wiped the phone, installed no third party apps but setcpu and began testing. I left the phone for a period of 10 minutes to see what the deep sleep value was (looking for it to be somewhere between 80 and 100% of time, which it was!) and it seemed to be back to normal, working fine. So then I started to install my core apps, one by one running the same 10 minute test between each one, idea being eventually I would hit whatever app it was that caused me problems.
So I installed upwards of 30 apps, and everything was still fine, in 10 minutes of not using my phone I was getting around 9 minutes of deep sleep, which is what you would expect.
And then came facebook, now I know there are lots of reports of facebook being a bad app blah blah blah, but I have never seen facebook react like this before, and I don't know if it was marshmallow or a mixture of marshmallow and LG - but when facebook is installed my phone stopped sleeping again, at first it wasn't a huge change, but was noticeable it dropped to deep sleeping at about the 40% mark so I had 4 minutes deep sleep in my 10 minute test - force closing facebook made no difference, I tested it again and again, rebooted and again - same results.
I then installed facebook messenger, and my deep sleep dropped again, to about 20%.
I then uninstalled messenger - no change.
I then rebooted - back to 40%
I then removed facebook - no change
I then rebooted - back to 80+ %.
TLDR: The "Solution"
Now for some of you this won't be a solution as you will claim you need the apps, but there are third party alternatives out there that work pretty well without causing this issue.
Facebook (and facebook messenger) on stock MM builds (at least on the G4) causes the phone to hardly ever enter "deep sleep", this means it is always running a CPU clock, albeit the lowest setting, but it consumes far more power than it needs too especially when the phone is not in use.
After removing them my phone is now sleeping fine and my battery life is back to being very good - lost 4% in the last 8 hours (albeit idle, I was asleep), which is much better than losing 4% an hour that I was before facebook was removed.
Go give it a try, install setcpu, reset the timer close go back to your home screen then leave your phone for 10 minutes then check your deep sleep values, then try it after removing facebook (and rebooting).
Let me know how you get on.
Hold your horses!
You should try Amplify:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ryansteckler.nlpunbounce&hl=en_GB
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/mod-nlpunbounce-reduce-nlp-wakelocks-t2853874
I have used it to disable Facebook services and limit the wakelocks and alarms to every 3600 seconds. Last night I had 5hrs of deep sleep with no interruption whatsoever.
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Hold your horses!
You should try Amplify:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ryansteckler.nlpunbounce&hl=en_GB
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/mod-nlpunbounce-reduce-nlp-wakelocks-t2853874
I have used it to disable Facebook services and limit the wakelocks and alarms to every 3600 seconds. Last night I had 5hrs of deep sleep with no interruption whatsoever.
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only any use if you have root
So interesting...
Can you do those tests again after disabling the Marshmallow battery optimizing for Facebook app ?
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I was having these issues too after upgrading to MM. My battery life was appalling and Facebook was keeping the phone awake for hours at a time. I simply did a full factory reset, and then restored my phone from the most recent backup. My battery life is now excellent, even with Facebook and Messenger installed
There was a wakelock introduced with the new version of facebook about a week ago not sure if it is still relevant. It goes by the name of bugreporting service. Something like that. The same goes with FB messenger. I got pissed off with the official app because of this and got Metal instead
I don't run Facebook (never have) or any messaging other than Hangouts and battery is always great (2-3 days). If you don't need it...uninstall it.
Kindle app was always a great one for running constantly in the background for no reason. So I bought an actual Kindle and didn't use the app.
I totally agree with the OP, I started having the exact issues after I updated to the latest facebook and messenger apps and my phone was entering deep sleep at all. I removed them last night and its much much better now.
My girlfriend's g3 with mm gets this message lots of time
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Until a few weeks ago, the Facebook app had a setting where you could choose the sync frequency and I was able to set mine to every 4 hours.
This setting appears to have disappeared now. Could this be the problem?
Nope. It's not the solution. I uninstalled Facebook but am barely getting 2+ hours of screen-on time on v20b.
A Redditor mentioned that some process called 'logd' is eating up resources and killing battery life. I used Terminal Emulator to verify it.
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logd is a separate issue that no one has quite worked out what is causing it - it is to do with error reporting, either from LG or Google apps.
That redditor here. Logd isn't actually logging anything when its CPU usage hits 16% (the problem). You can verify by running logcat in adb shell while watching cpu usage in terminal emulator on phone.
I removed logd by renaming the binary, it's over doubled by SOT from 1-2h to 4+h. As this is my first post on xda I can't link the thread I made on reddit about it -- but you'll find it on /r/lgg4 on the first page ("PSA: How to fix 6.0 / marshmallow logd battery drain (TWRP/root)")
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For the past 3 days my battery is dropping at an incredibly fast rate. Even if its idle it will drop about 20 % every half hour with little to no use. I rooted my phone and am now running fresh with kings kernel but no change. I an even dropping in airplane mode. What can it be? I left it at 90% connected to wifi with the sync off and when I woke up 6 hours later it was at 20%. Any solutions?
Sounds like mine, just turning on the screen drops the batter 1-2%.
Hit menu and click on settings. From there, go to About Phone and then to Battery. Note the awake time and turn the screen off for thirty seconds or so. Turn the screen back on and check the awake time again. If it's not within five to ten seconds of the time you noted before you turned the screen off, something is keeping your phone awake, which does a number on the battery.
square parts or system panel might give a better idea of what specifically is draining your battery, or preventing it from sleeping correctly.
It seems fine, about 15 seconds difference. The weird thing is this only started happening about 3 days ago, I rooted yesterday, and its still doing it.
Go for what Fachadick said. Download and install Spare Parts from the Android Market. Go to Battery History and click on the dropdown box where it says "other usage" and click on "partial wake usage". If anything is taking up one of those bars, that's your problem.
If there's nothing notable there, it could be damn near any of your applications. When you root, you lose settings for you apps (depending on how you rooted), so your autosyncs could be going crazy. Might wanna check those.
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Go for what Fachadick said. Download and install Spare Parts from the Android Market. Go to Battery History and click on the dropdown box where it says "other usage" and click on "partial wake usage". If anything is taking up one of those bars, that's your problem.
If there's nothing notable there, it could be damn near any of your applications. When you root, you lose settings for you apps (depending on how you rooted), so your autosyncs could be going crazy. Might wanna check those.
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What he said Rooting won't fix battery issues. Rooting and installing a new ROM is just like reinstalling your OS. It can fix things or not depending on how it is configured. Likewise it won't fix your phone if hardware is bad.
does it drop steadily or just the first 5-10% or so? There is a well documented issue where the trickle charge stops at 100% and then shuts off so the phone actually drains a bit before it kicks in again. When you first unplug it, the reading may drop quickly until it reaches the real level.
Likewise depending on what you have installed and how it is set up, there may be something keeping your phone from sleeping. Check for partial wake use like the previous poster said and that will tell you what process/application is keeping your phone awake and draining battery.
i had this same problem about the battery before i rooted my phone. after i rooted it i got overclock widget and i get through the day with so much more battery left. i make sure my battery is full right before i go to bed, i put it on airplane mode and go to bed wake up around 7 a.m.(my battery is always at 98 when i get up in the morning so 2% in about 8 hrs) and i get home around 8:30 and my battery is at 48%. and no i dont leave it lying around with the screen off. i constantly go on, text, internet etc.
hope it works for you too!
your friend.
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I am having this same problem and it started about 2 days ago. I downloaded Spare parts and looked up the partial usage (screenshots attached). I'm not sure what I'm suppose to determine from this. Mail is showing with more fill-in than any other program, when I click on it, I get the details. Can someone help?
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trhonda2000 said:
I am having this same problem and it started about 2 days ago. I downloaded Spare parts and looked up the partial usage (screenshots attached). I'm not sure what I'm suppose to determine from this. Mail is showing with more fill-in than any other program, when I click on it, I get the details. Can someone help?
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It doesn't appear (to me anyway) that you're having any issues with partial wake time. You may have a runaway app draining your battery and cpu - system panel is invaluable for hunting those down. It will show you each running process with exacly how much cpu it's used. It gets even better and gives evenmore detail if you let it monitor your system over time.
turn off latitude
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turn off latitude
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How did you get that from his screens? Not doubting you, but where do you see that?
Sent from my blah blah blah blah
Thanks for the help fachadick, where would I get "System Panel" from? Couldn't find in the market.
P.S. - I'm a lady LOL
trhonda2000 said:
Thanks for the help fachadick, where would I get "System Panel" from? Couldn't find in the market.
P.S. - I'm a lady LOL
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There I go, letting my prejudices get ahead of me again, sorry about that. I think in the market it’s called systempanel – one word.
So will the free version pinpoint the problem, or would I need to do the paid version?
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So will the free version pinpoint the problem, or would I need to do the paid version?
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to be honest, I'm not sure - I don't remember what kind of detail it gives you in the free version, but the app is so useful to monitor cpu and battery, as well as for hunting down rougue apps, I would recommend the paid version as a "required" app for all rooters.
when you load it up, the default screen is essentially a taskkiller - but more importantly, you can go into settings and have it show ALL processes, and if you select one of the apps or processes from that main screen, it tells you when it was started, how much cpu it used, how much memory its used, and at least in the paid version, a historical graph of cpu usage - so you can see exactly when it used the cpu over the past 2 hours, 8 hours, 1 day, 3 days, or over the past week.
Me Too - "Android System" extremely high - Stock 2.2
This is also happening to me from 4 days ago. I haven't installed any new apps in the last 15 days or so, and for good measure, i uninstalled the last 10 apps i installed before that. When i check battery usage, the "Android System" takes up between 60 and 70 percent. When i open it, it lists like this:
HTC Checkin Service
Settings
Upgrade Setup
Rosie Utility
Android System
Setup
Accounts & Sync
HTC Widget Download Manager
VPN Services
Network Location
com.android.qxdmlog
BrcmBluetoothServices
Settings Storage
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Bluetooth is off, 4g is off (when's cincinnati going live already!??! Just the heart of downtown and the mall)
Wifi is off, and I've been turning off gps now, but i always used to leave it on and made it through the day.
"Cell Standby" is next with 8%, everything else below that.
I kill everything with task manager now and it doesn't seem to help at all.
It is not possible to exaggerate how fast the battery is being drained. It drops by 1-2% each 45 seconds or so. I've done the Charge-for-8-hours-turn-off-charge-trickle-charge-unplug-trickle-charge-unplug-etc thing last night and no help. This is with no widgets installed, no live wallpaper, no music, when for months i can make it through the day with a little pandora, bluetooth while driving, a game or two, internet, maps, and several other apps throughout the day. I've stopped everything but messaging and phone calls and it still drains just as fast.
PLEASE HELP!
I don't know if this applies to anyone in this thread, but after installing a new rom sometimes I forget that the Gtalk/Gchat app resets itself to automatically sign in, and drains the battery while running in the background.
Changing it to not run automatically helps out for me, although I feel that I may have gotten slightly better battery life out of the rooted stock rom than running the King kernel I'm using right now. At least in terms of percentage drop. I never really reset my battery stats or recalibrate after installing a new rom, don't know how much that has an effect on the readings.
This is turning into a deal breaker
Its not latitude, off. Not ANYTHING as it still happens with everything off and all apps killed in task manager.
No background, no live wallpaper (even though i used to have one all day). No music (even though i used to have pandora on a couple hours a day). screen brightness is always low (even though i used to leave it above medium, and would turn it up to high to watch video or a game, and still made it most of the day before).
The phone's battery use thing swears its "Android System" thats taking by far the most, not even cell standby got larger when i unplugged it in the basement where there's no service.
i've turned off everything i could think of, no apps 'auto update' and i've put all syncing and updating and stuff to manual or off that i could find.
I don't think its a faulty battery because it is ridiculously noticeable that something has changed in that ANDROID SYSTEM is now a power hog. Why and what do to?????
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Its not latitude, off. Not ANYTHING as it still happens with everything off and all apps killed in task manager.
No background, no live wallpaper (even though i used to have one all day). No music (even though i used to have pandora on a couple hours a day). screen brightness is always low (even though i used to leave it above medium, and would turn it up to high to watch video or a game, and still made it most of the day before).
The phone's battery use thing swears its "Android System" thats taking by far the most, not even cell standby got larger when i unplugged it in the basement where there's no service.
i've turned off everything i could think of, no apps 'auto update' and i've put all syncing and updating and stuff to manual or off that i could find.
I don't think its a faulty battery because it is ridiculously noticeable that something has changed in that ANDROID SYSTEM is now a power hog. Why and what do to?????
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Have you pulled the battery lately? Give that a shot.
Hi there,
So I'd my Defy for a little over 2 months now and I have used the mentioned ROMs with it for at least a week each. It first had Eclair, I promptly changed that to a Pays version of Froyo and now i'm using Quarx CM7.
A lot of my friends have this phone and report battery life of over 24h. They do work in places where they can connect their phones to their laptops and car charger, and they are lighter users than me.
But I'm a med student so I get out in the morning around 6 am, unplug my phone and go to the hospital returning home around 8pm. 14h later my phone is already at 33% charge. I keep wifi turned off, 3G off and use my phone to check MedScape(a medical info repository) and e-mail/facebook 6 times a day and listen to music for 4h.
Is that a good battery life? i mean, for a new phone. I imagine that if I let my 3G i won't get to the middle of my afternoon without needing to recharge.
Around the forum I read about people with OVER 48h of battery life, HOW?
thanks in advance.
Also, as I know it will be asked. My signal reception is flawless all through my working environment.
The .sbf you flashed (for the kernel) is apparently a big factor in batterylife, which did you use under cm7 ?
Which version of cm7 are you running?
Also are you using setvsel?
My settings are 300/23, 600/33, 800/43, and i have gotten almost 5 days battery use on a single charge, with
-texting for atleast 48hr time, intervals of short(10min) periods as you would expect
-maybe 20 mins phoning
-wifi on for half the time when i forget it overnight etc(my profile disables wifi on screen off however-good for light, but battery drain if you lock phone a lot)
-Get the following: OSmonitor, Battery monitor widget.
These help to track what apps eat battery, and kill processes with minimal(1%) drain, that if you arent using then you may aswell take all the battery back that you can
What are your display settings? eg auto brightness, renderfx etc
Thanks
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I'm using the latest CM7 by quarx 5.1 and for base i'm currently using 3.4.2-177 nordic Blurless.
I wasn't currently using any undervolting settings to make a baseline screening of the phone with CM7 but i'll try yours and install the apps you've mentioned.
i'm using auto-brightness because of the bugs involved in disabling them in CM7 5.1. And haven't messed with renderfx so far.
Ok firstly i have only tested on 4.0, 4.1 and 5.0 so these suggestions are very likely to work but if certain settings are different in 5.1 then they may negatively affect you- just a thought
Undervolting is actually incredible on cm7 and works a charm, its still super responsive and load times are still less than that of any 2.2 i have tested WITH overclock
Start on about 300/600/800, 30/45/50 and go down marginally-different phones may have different yields to this due to apps running, previous cpu stress etc
(Remember to untick 'start on boot')
Also, the medical database you mentioned- does it contain any 3d renders etc?
This may require you to raise the voltage a little to keep it stable for anything you may to run aswell-- all the apps i have tested such as angry birds, 3d racer games work perfectly btw
Ok, there are extra options that allow you to further change the auto brightness inside the CMsettings under >Display>Automatic backlight
You might wish to experiment if you have time (decrease sensor check-times, lower overall brightness etc), however it likely isnt worth pursuing as the new Quarx beta shows brightness fixes in the changelog already, so just wait is my advice if you are short of time
Ooh and renderfx seemed to drain my battery more on any of the n1 settings, however it may be mix/match to get it right
Hum, I've had bad experiences with undervolting in 2.2 but I'll be sure to try it.
As far as medscape goes, it's just text, no image whatsoever it's just a big list with descriptions "acetaminophen - what does it do, how, dosages and stuff" really useful though
will post back when I have more info from the apps you've mentioned. So far I had used watchdog and it hasn't barked at any of my apps
As long as you take it slowly, undervolting is no problem- also try and minimize the amount of useless apps you have, since many of them run in the background by default without a way to exit them, meaning you constantly waste resources on them and thereby limit the amount of UC/V'ing you could acheive.
Ok thats cool, i was just curious as you clearly need/use that app often
Alrighty then, hopefully you can get some better battery life out of it -good luck
i don't actually have that many apps installed
3g watchdog, only on when 3g is.
angry birds
battery monitor widget
chrome to phone
documents to go
dropbox
evernote
facebook
epicurious
foursquare
gmail
goggles
mnote
msn mercury
music junk
music
pulse
sms backup
soundhound
talk
wifi manager
youtube
well, not that I've written it out, they are quite a few.
He probably means you should use something to kill useless apps running in the background. Look for Advanced Task Killer at the market and install it so you can kill apps that are running in the background but that you're not using.
@Behemia 5 days is awesome in my experience, and you are using your device the same way I am
could you please tell us which kernel are you using (savaged Zen maybe?) and which baseband (if you changed it)?
thanks!
im using cm7 with 3.4.3-11 kernel, undervolted to 300/18-600/30-800/45, kill apps with es task manager quite a lot, 3g or wifi is constantly on, and brightness is set to medium (for some reason auto brightness doesnt relly work for me), and i still cant get one day out of it. battery calibration helped a bit though (i recommend that app to everybody having battery life issues!). is that normal?
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So, I've done some of the changes proposed. Undervolted to 300/28 600/41 800/47. Installed Battery monitor Widget, OSmonitor left the phone with 3g off and wifi off when not in use(most of the time) and right now I've got 1% of battery left. That's 1d09h30min after unplug.
Below are the times in ms from the applications that I've used according to battery monitor widgets.
sms 814409
facebook 518805
contacts 355178
dialer 212996
gmail 195103
winamp 67868
medscape 2728
And here battery use report according to system
display 21%
phone idle 18%
stanby 17%
voice calls 15%
OS 7%
media 4%
winamp 4%
gmail 3%
facebook 2%
I'm not saying that 33h isn't good. But my use in this time has been way below my average for myself and the way below most of what I see described here. Plus I don't see any bloatware running nor I do see my apps hogging my battery. Facebook and Gmail push notifications are set to occurs over 2h apart.
Any ideas?
Also, as I finish this thread the phone finally vibrates and dies. Let's put it back to charge and look for more ideas.
thanks in advance everyone.
@lionheartpl
which kind of sim card do you own? i mean an old 64k or a brand new 128k? i upgraded mine from 64 to 128 due to a mobile operator change and my battery usage (same mod, same apps, same usage, same baseband) dropped from 2-3% hour usage to 1% in more than 1 hour. So battery usage has dropped a lot...
Running stock UK 2.1 i could get 4 days standby if i was just texting and a few calls. with the stock UK 2.2 undervolted to 300/22 600/32 1000/52 i can get 5 days easily but i cant see the point in it cos you dare not really use it, i would rather drop down to 1 or 2 days and give it some usage.
Hello everyone,
I'm getting a very good perfomance with the barebones froyo 1.5.6, check this behavior at night:
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That's like 2% loss in almost 8 hours!!!
Right now I am using the version 1.5.1 because I was told it has a better perfomance than the 1.5.6. I'll post my results in a few days.
Also, I use my Defy to be connected to windows messenger network all the time. I'm trying a strategy in order to not drain battery so much:
http://loqueselocomparto.blogspot.com/2011/08/messenger-en-android.html
Check it out
Even i m not getting a good battery life on CM7 RC1 V1, latest Nightly(9th Aug)
using base band switcher as i m from India
i lost around 18 to 20% every night between 12 to 8am.
over with minimum usage i can get 24 hrs thats witout any music and games, call for 30 mins
not sure what to do
some one please help
I can get about 2 days out of a charge. I am using 300/35 700/42 1000/50 and have had no problems. I recommend using battery calibration! A trick that I have learned is to let it charge to 100% do a battery calibration and then leave it plugged in for a while (30 mins). I have my wifi on all the time and run the smartass profile in settings.
good luck!
Chem57guru
Yesterday as I started my day, i pulled my GN from its charger (99%) and made my journey to uni. The trip takes about 50 mins. For the past month now Ive been using poweramp and have had no problems. But when i got to class i realised i had like 25% power during my trip and the back of the GN was a bit warm. I closed all programs and the power drain stopped. I was a bit concerned so a few hours later when i tried playing music again on poweramp but nothing drained the power. So maybe it was a freak occurrence?
So I went to bed last night and the phone was fine. something around 80% power. I woke up 5 hours into my sleep to check on my phone (its a bad habit) and went back to sleep for another 2-3 hours. When i woke up i found my phone had discharged a whole lot of power again randomly in that space of a few hours.
So what the hell happened in that time?! All I did was turn the screen on and turned it off. My usage patterns have not changed.
here is an screen shot of my power usage. You can see the first drop of power, thats nothing of concern as i was playing angry birds space before bed. Then you see the straight line as the phone was idle while i was sleeping. The next drop is when I woke up to check my phone and that's when the discharging happens again. Then you see it recovering when i woke up and closed all the background apps in hope that it would stop the power drain..which it did.
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Anyone have some ideas as to what is causing this?
Also keep in mind that before the first instance of power drain my phone configuration had not changed a single bit besides a light flow lite update the night before.
edit: oh FYI, running stock 4.0.2 on yakju
Any apps that you updated or installed yesterday? New rom? Did you make any changes to your phone at all since yesterday?
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Mitchmoney said:
Any apps that you updated or installed yesterday? New rom? Did you make any changes to your phone at all since yesterday?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
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No new apps, but some app updates. I know at least light flow was updated.
this random power discharge is really getting annoying. It happened again today.
A new symptom seems that the video doesnt load on the phone. for example, trying to load youtube or recorded videos saved on my phone.
Originally i thought my 3g was playing up but when it wouldnt load a video i recorded that was a bit unusual. in fact the gallery app froze and crashed.
Did you search the forum and install CPU Spy and Better Battery stats?
Get some data and find out what is causing wakelocks. Your phone has a lot of "wake" time.
See with CPU spy how much it is spending in Deep sleep and with Better Battery stats look what is preventing it from going into that state. If it's an app: simply remove it.
How's your signal service been lately? I get pretty stank reception at work so my gnex gets pretty warm at the top and battery life suffers. I just put it on airplane mode and reset the radio to force it to chill out for awhile
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Did you search the forum and install CPU Spy and Better Battery stats?
Get some data and find out what is causing wakelocks. Your phone has a lot of "wake" time.
See with CPU spy how much it is spending in Deep sleep and with Better Battery stats look what is preventing it from going into that state. If it's an app: simply remove it.
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Thanks ill try that. Just installed CPU spy. Is there an alternative to better battery stats? Don't really want to fork out something to debug this.
I originally used OS monitor, and i checked what was running while the abnormal discharge was happening but nothing showed up.
You make a good point about the amount of wake time though. That long stretch where i was sleeping, my phone shouldnt be waking up that much should it? It didnt seem to affect battery life that much.
pdiggitydogg said:
How's your signal service been lately? I get pretty stank reception at work so my gnex gets pretty warm at the top and battery life suffers. I just put it on airplane mode and reset the radio to force it to chill out for awhile
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Reception has been normal (since I'm around the CBD a lot)
csirac said:
Thanks ill try that. Just installed CPU spy. Is there an alternative to better battery stats? Don't really want to fork out something to debug this.
I originally used OS monitor, and i checked what was running while the abnormal discharge was happening but nothing showed up.
You make a good point about the amount of wake time though. That long stretch where i was sleeping, my phone shouldnt be waking up that much should it? It didnt seem to affect battery life that much.
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Better Battery Stats is the one I use and is recommended here a lot. It gives you insight in the wakelocks from the kernel, as well as from apps. Don't know about the alternatives. It's definately about the wakelocks. Your phone should be in Deep Sleep for 90% or so when you don't touch it (depending on your sync frequency off course).
Diger36 said:
Better Battery Stats is the one I use and is recommended here a lot. It gives you insight in the wakelocks from the kernel, as well as from apps. Don't know about the alternatives. It's definately about the wakelocks. Your phone should be in Deep Sleep for 90% or so when you don't touch it (depending on your sync frequency off course).
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The only account that is sync'ed is my gmail. The other two listed (twitter and dropbox) is turned off. Are there other options to turn the freq of when the phone syncs?
It's so strange because before these problems came about I had good battery life. ie: 3+hours of screen time.
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The only account that is sync'ed is my gmail. The other two listed (twitter and dropbox) is turned off. Are there other options to turn the freq of when the phone syncs?
It's so strange because before these problems came about I had good battery life. ie: 3+hours of screen time.
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You usually set it at System Settings, accounts & Synchronisation but some apps allow you to set it within the app... There are apps that allow you to make profiles so that, for instance at night, your device turns off all data. I used to use Juicedefender but that was IMHO more a placebo effect then a real improvement.
I definately think you should install the mentioned apps and after such drain re-appeared analyse what happened.
So after a little bit of troubleshooting I narrowed the problem down to Light Flow Lite.
Last night I went to bed with 100% charge. It discharged normally throughout the night until 4 hours in when I received an email. I woke up about an hour later and saw this so i suspected it was light flow. I cleared the notification and went back to sleep. I woke up about 30 mins later and was sad to see that my fears were confirmed. Battery discharge had settled down and was acting as normal. Just to be 100% sure though, i sent an email to myself to set off a notification and left it for another 30 mins, and as you can guess, the battery started draining excessively again.
Here is the screenshot. First part obviously is when im sleeping. then that dip is the email coming in. That TINY TINY dip upwards is another email coming in a min after I cleared the original email. So the battery drain continues until i wake up and clear it again. This time no more notifications came through and the battery drain settles down.
Again keep in mind that I have used Light Flow Light for 2 months now without problems.
Anyone else experience problems with Light flow or Light Flow light since it was updated on the 20th March?
I have been great with my light flow lite..I had a problem with my own battery when I updated Google chrome.. uninstalling that fixed my problem..
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Hi,
I have huge problem which hasn't occurred for the first time. I left my t520 with 92% and fell asleep. When I woke up it was at 40%. I had wifi off, and turned off wifi scanning when eve n off (which caused drain esrlier). According to wake lock detector the process which keeps running can be seen under. Please help me. In settings it only says that android process (97% usage of battery) has used CPU for 10h42mi and stood awake for 7h45min
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P.s. This tab is complete rubbish....
i would suggest go into settings....->battery. this should show u what is using your battery the most. if its a app delete it and see if it works. if not i would recomend doing a factory reset. this is what i do when something eats my battery alot.
foxracer89 said:
Hi,
I have huge problem which hasn't occurred for the first time. I left my t520 with 92% and fell asleep. When I woke up it was at 40%. I had wifi off, and turned off wifi scanning when eve n off (which caused drain esrlier). According to wake lock detector the process which keeps running can be seen under. Please help me. In settings it only says that android process (97% usage of battery) has used CPU for 10h42mi and stood awake for 7h45min
http://imgur.com/wNEhSFt
P.s. This tab is complete rubbish....
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foxracer89 said:
Hi,
I have huge problem which hasn't occurred for the first time. I left my t520 with 92% and fell asleep. When I woke up it was at 40%. I had wifi off, and turned off wifi scanning when eve n off (which caused drain esrlier). According to wake lock detector the process which keeps running can be seen under. Please help me. In settings it only says that android process (97% usage of battery) has used CPU for 10h42mi and stood awake for 7h45min
http://imgur.com/wNEhSFt
P.s. This tab is complete rubbish....
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Are you using Songza? It has big problems right now with battery drain. The deal is, is probably not the device. There is an app that is causing your issue.
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The tab yesterday got from 30% to complete 0% with everything off (aeroplane mode, sync off etc.) just laying on the desk.
In settings its shows that battery is drained only by Android process.
I was thinking about what might be the cause and just realised that it started to happen just affter purchase of original samsung case for this tab. Is it possible that it had impact on one of the processes? Cause CPU is active almost all the time despite neither app running in the background... Maybe it's due to the magnetic thingy which wakes the screen?
foxracer89 said:
I was thinking about what might be the cause and just realised that it started to happen just affter purchase of original samsung case for this tab. Is it possible that it had impact on one of the processes? Cause CPU is active almost all the time despite neither app running in the background... Maybe it's due to the magnetic thingy which wakes the screen?
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If the magnet is turning the tablet on, the screen would be on, and you can see that even with the cover of the case closed. So if you can see the screen if off, then I would say no, the magnet is not causing your drain problem.
Do you have Skype installed? This is a known battery drain problem on Kitkat as well. Its a bug within Kitkat itself, so maybe that is why its being reported as the Android process, and not one of your apps.
take a screenshot of you battery
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If the magnet is turning the tablet on, the screen would be on, and you can see that even with the cover of the case closed. So if you can see the screen if off, then I would say no, the magnet is not causing your drain problem.
Do you have Skype installed? This is a known battery drain problem on Kitkat as well. Its a bug within Kitkat itself, so maybe that is why its being reported as the Android process, and not one of your apps.
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I don't think it's an app problem. I have only few apps installed (news reader, 2 games, fb and few random apps. I'll upload the screenshot when I'll be at home
Yep, my battery has started playing up. It likes to say it's 21% but then goes to 15, then between 2 and 4 within a couple of minutes. Sometimes runs on 1% for ages. But then dies, I turn it back on and it says 21%
Don't know if is root related. Our if I just need a hard reset. Going to try draining battery fully, then charging to full with device off
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I also have never seen such a huge battery drain on any samsung or android device. For once, if you dont need it, go into settings and location services. Just disable it completly with that switch. This reduces the drain a lot, but is still way to high...
For me, it drains about 20% overnight with location on (completly offline) and about 10% without location services.
I have the same problem as well. It will continuously drain from 90-50 in minutes and then 50-15 and so on. 1% sometimes lasts for 30 minutes+ and when I restart it will be 15+% again. I thought it might be because of custom roms so I reset it back to stock many times and same problem. The only apps I have installed are adobe reader and es file manager.
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I have the same problem as well. It will continuously drain from 90-50 in minutes and then 50-15 and so on. 1% sometimes lasts for 30 minutes+ and when I restart it will be 15+% again. I thought it might be because of custom roms so I reset it back to stock many times and same problem. The only apps I have installed are adobe reader and es file manager.
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boy, you're digging out a two year old thread!!
if you have such a battery drain you have different (unsatisfying) choices:
1. try battery calibration or other roms
2. throw you tab away + buy a new one
3. buy a new battery
4. accept it (like me)
5. wait until someone brings an awesome new rom which will give an awesome battery life
(sorry for hidden sarcasm but this tablet is just a big disappointment (for me))
I don't think you should throw away devices or buy new batteries without first analyzing what the problem could be. If you are rooted, download an app such as Wakelock Detector and BetterBatteryStats first, make sure there isn't some rogue app or process that is constantly running in the background. Also, if you are running the 8.4 (or perhaps it also works with the 10.1 / 12.1), check out the link in my signature on how to reseat your battery. Many people have found success with all kinds of battery problems.
I'm having a slight problem.. How long can your G3 stay away from the charger? And with which kind of usage?
Mine is dead after 8~10 hours with absolutely light usage (1:30 sot, checking whatsapp, but not even responding the groups, no facebook usage). Every time I turn the phone on, BBS complains about 30~50% awake time, but when I open it up, I can't for the love of God find what the heck is causing it.
Example, it says phone was with the screen off for 30 minutes, with 50% awake. And every single option (but kernel wakelocks) shows apps with about 2, 3 minutes total wakelock time.
When I first bought it, I rooted it right away and restored my TitaniumBackup, and the phone was getting hot on my pocket. I mean, HOT. Battery couldn't get past 6 hours with the usage I had on my G2, and phone was unconfortable to handle and make a call.
And about that, it seems that the battery drains slower during calls, rather than the phone idling.
I started using Greenify and added every possible app to it, but it didn't help anything.
What may be my problem? How can I find what is causing such wakelocks?
Those pictures have been taken few hours ago, when I posted it on G+, and the screen on time represents 1:05hrs.
It hit 15% with 11:53hr total with 1:50h screen on time. Estimated recharge time is around 6 hours. It sucks
http://imgur.com/a/H0aLm
Flash a new Rom...like cloudy or something that works for your phone, but don't restore apps and data with titanium bu.
Don't restore android home or anything like that either....just restore apps....then you should be ok.
You battery useage is not normal, but this should fix it.
Cheers!
I'm using CloudyG3. I feel like it was good at the beginning, but gotten worse with time.
I'm seriously thinking about flashing it fresh and not restoring anything, letting Google do its stuff.
That should work....you probably restored an appnsetting that doesn't like the Rom....that's hard to troubleshoot and easier to re flash and start from scratch
Did it. Yet no solution.
I always get 45% phone awake, on BBS. The culprit seems to be Google Play Services. I've tried greenifiying a thousand of apps, but it doesn't seem to help.
http://imgur.com/a/8QCdG
It seems to be related to location services, but I've never had such problem in my life, and G3 GPS is pretty quick to get a lock on. Phone is also getting lukewarm on my pocket for no apparent reason (warm enough to notice it in pocket, at random moments)
That's still not normal.....not sure what to say. Maybe there is hardware failure. Sorry I can't be of more assistance....that should have solved it, but if it's Google play services, you can't even attribute it to a rogue 3rd party app.
Greenified Google Play Services..
http://imgur.com/ildhKIG
So, it IS a Google Play Services problem, but what is causing it? Also, how bad is to have GPlay Services greenified?
I get a 0.4% or less drop each hour that I have no screen time and I'm in wifi (with 2 gmail and 1 exchange accounts syncing/push notifications). I can easily go over two days on a single battery charge with perhaps 30 min of screen time. That is pretty typical from what I've read. Something is wrong with your phone/apps if you are getting well less than that.
sic0048 said:
I get a 0.4% or less drop each hour that I have no screen time and I'm in wifi (with 2 gmail and 1 exchange accounts syncing/push notifications). I can easily go over two days on a single battery charge with perhaps 30 min of screen time. That is pretty typical from what I've read. Something is wrong with your phone/apps if you are getting well less than that.
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Still working on that. A full day without a charge is more than enough for me.
Google Play Services finally got out from the top 3 battery sippers, but I don't know at what cost. It's greenified.
The top 5 currently is:
Screen (29% - 1:14 sot)
Android Operating System (14% - 16m 48s Total CPU, execution time 2h 2m)
Android System (12% - 29m 15s Total CPU, 11m 43s execution time)
Google Play Services (7% - 3m 8s Total CPU, 23m 11s execution time, 1m 59s GPS)
Inactive Phone (4% - Time in use 5h 48m 29s)
Phone was supposed to be dead by now. It still has 66% left, with 19hrs remaining. That is a -HUGE- improvement.
Usage is nowhere near I had with the G2 (1:14hr sot), but it now gives margin to use it more intensively. Hope it stays cool and economic like that tomorrow, when I'll start using it as a normal smartphone to me.
This is caused by Google tracking you. You should disable location reporting and if possible network location service (GPS only). I have a Tasker profile that enables and disables network location with screen. I get about 3%/hr with pretty moderate/heavy usage.
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This is caused by Google tracking you. You should disable location reporting and if possible network location service (GPS only). I have a Tasker profile that enables and disables network location with screen. I get about 3%/hr with pretty moderate/heavy usage.
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That isn't a option for me. I've successfuly recovered my last G2 4 times from robbers using tracking tools. I can't disable GPS.
I hear GPS only gets activated when necessary, so that doesn't seem to be a big deal. There are some useless trackings, sure, such as to show where I parked my car and stuff.
I'll try disabling Location Reporting and see if I can track it back.
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Looks like I can! But Google Play Services consumption is already low. The "problem" now is on the screen (unsolveable, I think. And I ain't downsampling it to 1080p) and Android System/Android OS.
Waiting for the Lollipop miracle, I guess.
Heck, I have yet to go below 5 hours of screen on time with CloudyG3 1.0.. Its been 5 days, and on the first two days i got 6 hours sot.
And thats not 6 sot/6 uptime, it went 20+ hours of uptime(off charger), with that amount of screen on.
I greenified a bit, am on art, and i'm not gonna lir to you, i tend to decrease my brightness lately, why?
Because i don't want a flashlight to my face in a dimmed room, and I can still perfectly percieve everything thats on my screen even with it not being 100% at all times..
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Can't say I'm happy with deep sleep "drain", but oh well, its not that bad...
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GTMoraes said:
Did it. Yet no solution.
I always get 45% phone awake, on BBS. The culprit seems to be Google Play Services. I've tried greenifiying a thousand of apps, but it doesn't seem to help.
http://imgur.com/a/8QCdG
It seems to be related to location services, but I've never had such problem in my life, and G3 GPS is pretty quick to get a lock on. Phone is also getting lukewarm on my pocket for no apparent reason (warm enough to notice it in pocket, at random moments)
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download wakelock detector and see what cpu wakelocks you have and on which version are you ?
suljo94 said:
download wakelock detector and see what cpu wakelocks you have and on which version are you ?
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It seemingly was Google Play Services that were draining the battery like mad. I'm using CloudyG3 1.1.
I had WLD already, and CPU wakelocks were little, if I remember well. Problem was on "Wakeup Triggers".
Sunday's a slow day, and the phone was pretty much the whole time on the wireless craddle, thus keeping charge at 100%. But the moments I took it off the charger and used it for a while on the living room, it seemed OK.
I've let it off the charger during the night to see how it would fare, and it dropped 10% in 9 hours, with virtually no screen on time (I checked the clock sometimes. Bet it doesn't even sums 20 second screen on time). It's nowhere near the 0,6%/h people claim, but I think I'm a pretty heavy user (4G, wifi, bluetooth all the time, no notifications disabled etc).
Funny that the G3 seems to take a while to drop from 100%, though.
Tomorrow's a full day, I leave in the morning and only get back home at 22hrs, with heavy usage. Phone was previously dying on me @ 14hrs.
If it works, it'll be nice. Weird that I've never had a issue with Google Play Services, and it seems that greenifying it did the trick.
GTMoraes said:
It seemingly was Google Play Services that were draining the battery like mad. I'm using CloudyG3 1.1.
I had WLD already, and CPU wakelocks were little, if I remember well. Problem was on "Wakeup Triggers".
Sunday's a slow day, and the phone was pretty much the whole time on the wireless craddle, thus keeping charge at 100%. But the moments I took it off the charger and used it for a while on the living room, it seemed OK.
I've let it off the charger during the night to see how it would fare, and it dropped 10% in 9 hours, with virtually no screen on time (I checked the clock sometimes. Bet it doesn't even sums 20 second screen on time). It's nowhere near the 0,6%/h people claim, but I think I'm a pretty heavy user (4G, wifi, bluetooth all the time, no notifications disabled etc).
Funny that the G3 seems to take a while to drop from 100%, though.
Tomorrow's a full day, I leave in the morning and only get back home at 22hrs, with heavy usage. Phone was previously dying on me @ 14hrs.
If it works, it'll be nice. Weird that I've never had a issue with Google Play Services, and it seems that greenifying it did the trick.
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disable location because play services checks it as mad or download xposed module lion tamer(donation) and set when it can check (in seconds) I am guessing that the nlp.... wakelock is the biggest in google play services:laugh:
lg are optimizing this in the new versions,
I think a lot of screen
I made a day through! Yeaaaahhhh
Not with some issues, though. This phone seems to be a bit wakelock happy.
First, it was Pushbullet that seemed to be stuck doing something. Greenified it and it's OK now.
But now it seems to be some issue with "com.android.internal.telephony.ACTION_CHECK_NETSTAT".
http://imgur.com/YAu4iNt
Is it the fast dormancy thing people talk about? The signal wasn't very strong today, but is it supposed to do a wakelock?
battery issue with lg g3
hi just got my Lg G3 the battery lasted me approx 12 hours with moderate usage and full screen display.
i installed juice defender and kept the screen display on auto.
i believe by doing that the battery drain will not be much.
my phone battery drain is only 4% in the past 3 hours.
try this solution
http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-x-att/general/guide-google-play-services-battery-t2822726
This is what I did along with using greenify to stop the wakelocks. Haven't had any issue at all with battery or deep sleep after this.