Why are MTCB head units stuck at Android 4.4? - MTCB Android Head Units Q&A

Is there a hardware reason why there aren't more recent android builds for them?

What newer features make it worth the effort to develop on newer versions? Battery life? - really? "Material design?" - meh. Multiple SIM card support? - huh? Fingerprint reader support? Android pay?
Maybe just a bigger number is better?

mike.s said:
What newer features make it worth the effort to develop on newer versions
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I agree with you.
Lollipop 5.0 is quite buggy, only 5.1.1 works decently, but it will give no practical benefits to a 1GB device.
And about Marshmallow 6.0, it has not yet been released even for many 2015 smartphone models, and its true advantages on a battery-less device would be questionable... and to enjoy the material design also the native launcher and apps will have to be redesigned.

Rockchip hasn't and probably wont release the SDK for Lollipop or above for RK3188 and RK3066 devices.

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We have a chance for N

Today i see someone succesfully boot Android N on Xperia L. Which is Xperia L has a same proccesor with Redmi 1S (snapdragon 400) Maybe we can port the ROM into our device. What do you guys think about?
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As far as I could gather, yes, it is possible to get Nougat.
Things we will NOT GET, because of the GPU we have are: OpenGL 3.1 / Vulkan. Those two are only embedded in Adreno 400 and upwards.
This would mean that there is a chance for problems with games that might migrate above OpenGL 3.0 (which we have).
As far as I'm aware, the differences between 3.1 and 3.0 are in the addition of new libraries, so if the game needs those new libraries 100% and doesn't offer a fallback option, we won't be able to play them.
FortoszoneID said:
Today i see someone succesfully boot Android N on Xperia L. Which is Xperia L has a same proccesor with Redmi 1S (snapdragon 400) Maybe we can port the ROM into our device. What do you guys think about?
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Xperia L is different but Moto G 2013 is same as our device & CM14 unofficial is out, so we are getting it soon
simuhnck said:
Xperia L is different but Moto G 2013 is same as our device & CM14 unofficial is out, so we are getting it soon
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Yeah i also see cm14 unofficial for Peregrine
hope so
Redmi1s won't get any more
Actually not a problem of xiaomi but of **** Google.
This is Android (and OEMs and Qualcomm) not looking far ahead to support devices. They don’t care about customers. After sale support non-existent.
Why is Apple able to support iPhone 5s (same age as Nexus 5) with iOS 10 and later? Because Apple made it compatible with METAL apk from day 1. Because it has hardware encryption since day 1.
Why is Apple able to support iPhone 5 (4 years old) with iOS 10? Because Apple is willing to!!! IPhone 5 does not support METAL nor does it have ARMv8 chip…yet iPhone 5 is getting iOS 10…minus raise to speak to Siri…it is getting 99% of iOS 10 features.
Remember, major software updates also bring with it security features beyond “monthly patches.”
So, with all the resources of software (Google) and hardware (OEM’s and Qualcomm), Android cannot support Nexu 5 and the likes?! It is like buying a laptop (since most phones cost the same) and can only use it for 2 years. That’s insane!
When will Android community wake up and demand more? Google, OEMs, and Qualcomm will only listen if money talks.
And it is this crap that explains horrible re-sale value of Android flagships!

New Update

Got a new update for my K10-420ds. Just added an emergency button on power off screen a narrower notification panel and just some tweaks and supposedly updates to 5.1.1. I think this might be the final update for this phone. Just wanted to let you know. Does this mean that now the bootloader is unlock able?
sammessi10 said:
Got a new update for my K10-420ds. Just added an emergency button on power off screen a narrower notification panel and just some tweaks and supposedly updates to 5.1.1. I think this might be the final update for this phone. Just wanted to let you know. Does this mean that now the bootloader is unlock able?
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Wait, what? Some ok K10's are still on lollipop?
sammessi10 said:
Got a new update for my K10-420ds. Just added an emergency button on power off screen a narrower notification panel and just some tweaks and supposedly updates to 5.1.1. I think this might be the final update for this phone. Just wanted to let you know. Does this mean that now the bootloader is unlock able?
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Seems like you are late buddy. I already posted about the update long back. I also uploaded the firmware file if you ever need to refresh your phone.
Nougat will be coming for the phone according to some news articles.
pvineeth97 said:
Seems like you are late buddy. I already posted about the update long back. I also uploaded the firmware file if you ever need to refresh your phone.
Nougat will be coming for the phone according to some news articles.
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I am sorry but what you are trying to say is Snap 410 models of K10 are gonna be updated to Nougat? I've seen the article but upon asking the same to the CC, they just say that they are not allowed the disclose unlike Samsung who just said that my J7 Prime is gonna get a Nougat update and If at all they are gonna release an update for K10's, it would definitely be for the MTK models. I dont know to any extent but is it really possible to directly upgrade from Lollipop to Nougat. Just not so knowledgable in this Upgrade stuff.
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I am sorry but what you are trying to say is Snap 410 models of K10 are gonna be updated to Nougat? I've seen the article but upon asking the same to the CC, they just say that they are not allowed the disclose unlike Samsung who just said that my J7 Prime is gonna get a Nougat update and If at all they are gonna release an update for K10's, it would definitely be for the MTK models. I dont know to any extent but is it really possible to directly upgrade from Lollipop to Nougat. Just not so knowledgable in this Upgrade stuff.
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Yup this update N would be for MTK variants only. Why? because the LGk10 2017 is MTK variant only. Probably the Nougat which is built-in in 2017 will just ported to MTK 2016 variant like k430dsy
ArcherEmiya said:
Yup this update N would be for MTK variants only. Why? because the LGk10 2017 is MTK variant only. Probably the Nougat which is built-in in 2017 will just ported to MTK 2016 variant like k430dsy
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No not true bro. Most of the Qualcomm based phones have higher RAM like K420DS (Indian Variant) has 2 GB RAM and I believe that they will release Nougat for Qualcomm too.
As you know they always release new updates to Korean variants first.
Korean variants are : F670L,S etc. They have Qualcomm Snapdragon 410 same as other Qualcomm models except LG MS428. So I believe strongly it will be released for Qualcomm soon!
Keep looking here for new "Nougat" updates: http://opensource.lge.com/osSch/list?types=ALL&search=nougat
Hey guys. I have an AT&T lg k10 ( build number mxb48t). Does my phone have an MTK chipset (In other words, will I get an nougat update)?Also, do you know if there's and method available for a root? I have 6.0.1
Nobodyslight said:
Hey guys. I have an AT&T lg k10 ( build number mxb48t). Does my phone have an MTK chipset (In other words, will I get an nougat update)?Also, do you know if there's and method available for a root? I have 6.0.1
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Download app "AIDA 64" tap on cpu, and you will have listed cpu socket.
And no you will most likely not get nougat, none of 2016 models will. Specially mediatek versions, because of they are mediatek.
Professor Woland said:
Download app "AIDA 64" tap on cpu, and you will have listed cpu socket.
And no you will most likely not get nougat, none of 2016 models will. Specially mediatek versions, because of they are mediatek.
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Why do you say none of the 2016's will?
Nobodyslight said:
Why do you say none of the 2016's will?
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Because you don't launch next generation of phones if you are going to update software on last generation. Especially when is case of mid-range phones. Mid range phones are made to 'be' one year, then new generation comes up with new software and so on.. One more thing, phones that aren't flagships and have mtk chipset - the one that got any software update are rare (you can say that isn't any out there)
Professor Woland said:
Because you don't launch next generation of phones if you are going to update software on last generation. Especially when is case of mid-range phones. Mid range phones are made to 'be' one year, then new generation comes up with new software and so on.. One more thing, phones that aren't flagships and have mtk chipset - the one that got any software update are rare (you can say that isn't any out there)
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But wouldn't you think that that Snapdragon editions would feature at least 7.0? I mean some of the components that make the 2017 K10 "new" aren't involving the software. It's mainly the hardware. A fingerprint sensor, better battery, and expanded ram are what would pull for an upgrade. I agree that the MTK variants are out of the question, but I feel like nougat isn't to far of a stretch for the Snapdragons
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But wouldn't you think that that Snapdragon editions would feature at least 7.0? I mean some of the components that make the 2017 K10 "new" aren't involving the software. It's mainly the hardware. A fingerprint sensor, better battery, and expanded ram are what would pull for an upgrade. I agree that the MTK variants are out of the question, but I feel like nougat isn't to far of a stretch for the Snapdragons
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Yes, there are new hardware things, but not big deal only fingerprint sensor the rest is just better version so it handles nougat smooth. I don't think that they will give nougat for just a half or ¼ devices (I don't know how many % are snapdragon versions) that's logic you must agree.
Professor Woland said:
Yes, there are new hardware things, but not big deal only fingerprint sensor the rest is just better version so it handles nougat smooth. I don't think that they will give nougat for just a half or ¼ devices (I don't know how many % are snapdragon versions) that's logic you must agree.
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I see what you mean, but the percentage that are snapdragon are the major carriers (AT&T, T-Mobile, etc). I just attempt a hopeful opinion on nougat. I mean look how long the Nexus 7 was supported.
Nobodyslight said:
I see what you mean, but the percentage that are snapdragon are the major carriers (AT&T, T-Mobile, etc). I just attempt a hopeful opinion on nougat. I mean look how long the Nexus 7 was supported.
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You can't compare any nexus or pixel device to any other phone when it's about software especially how long they maintains it.
pvineeth97 said:
No not true bro. Most of the Qualcomm based phones have higher RAM like K420DS (Indian Variant) has 2 GB RAM and I believe that they will release Nougat for Qualcomm too.
As you know they always release new updates to Korean variants first.
Korean variants are : F670L,S etc. They have Qualcomm Snapdragon 410 same as other Qualcomm models except LG MS428. So I believe strongly it will be released for Qualcomm soon!
Keep looking here for new "Nougat" updates: http://opensource.lge.com/osSch/list?types=ALL&search=nougat
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The first LG K10 2017 variant has MTK SoC and Mali GPU thats why I think they just gonna release it first on MTK 2016 variant. Well good luck for all of us with this rumors I wish Android N had no compatibility issue with some previous games and wish it can have root access also.
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Because you don't launch next generation of phones if you are going to update software on last generation. Especially when is case of mid-range phones. Mid range phones are made to 'be' one year, then new generation comes up with new software and so on.. One more thing, phones that aren't flagships and have mtk chipset - the one that got any software update are rare (you can say that isn't any out there)
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I kinda agree with you sir.
I have a qualcomm snapdragon LG k10 from metro pcs you think it would ever get 7.0?
shadowwolf86 said:
I have a qualcomm snapdragon LG k10 from metro pcs you think it would ever get 7.0?
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First read posts in this thread.
Yes you can have nougat on k10 but only if you buy 2017 K10
Seriously now, since there is next gen of K series there is 0,001% chance of getting nougat, besides that there is K10's with mtk chipset which is know for not getting too much updates.
Professor Woland said:
First read posts in this thread.
Yes you can have nougat on k10 but only if you buy 2017 K10
Seriously now, since there is next gen of K series there is 0,001% chance of getting nougat, besides that there is K10's with mtk chipset which is know for not getting too much updates.
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Actually, I've been following up on the news for the 2017 K10. Its only been released in india as of now, and looking at some other phones which had a similar lifetime (being recreated with the same name), it's possible that companies like at&t may not sell this phone. And if that's the case, then the likelihood of a nougat update (from said companies) is great. Offering a low budget phone like the K10 that has the latest OS is a great way to improve sales. I also don't thinks it's a fair assumption to say that there's a 0.001% chance. At&T just updated the g5 this last week.
Update for Noughat
ArcherEmiya said:
Yup this update N would be for MTK variants only. Why? because the LGk10 2017 is MTK variant only. Probably the Nougat which is built-in in 2017 will just ported to MTK 2016 variant like k430dsy
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Hi sorry but there wont be an Noughat 7.0 update
please find attached URL:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-k10/help/news-updates-k10-t3566332

Searching a phone under 5 inch for lineage

Hello,
I am searching for a phone under 5 inch for current lineage os (and likely with support for next versions). It seems to be nearly unpossible. It is quite hard to check all supported phones for the display screen. Does someone knows if there is somewhere an overview of lineage phones where I can sort or filter the display size? Does someone uses such a phone with lineage?
I use moto e 1St gen condor. 4.3 inch and cheap. Will upgrade from mokee marshmallow as soon as audioFx is fixed or replaced by viper.
Edit: official resurrection remix seems to be the better choice in terms of stable updates.
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Hello,
I am searching for a phone under 5 inch for current lineage os (and likely with support for next versions). It seems to be nearly unpossible. It is quite hard to check all supported phones for the display screen. Does someone knows if there is somewhere an overview of lineage phones where I can sort or filter the display size? Does someone uses such a phone with lineage?
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S4 Mini is good if you are happy with a small midrange phone, but be careful you get a version which has official Linage support ie I9195, i9192, I9190 and NOT variants like i9195L (though it's normally possible to get it running on those but support is limited)
Droid 4
Really happy that I can keep my Droid 4 running through several major version of CM and now Lineage OS 14.1. 4" screen and a nifty sliding keyboard (O where have they all gone?).
I only use it a music server now so I can't speak for it's cell capabilities but it's solid performer anyway.
dbsoundz said:
Hello,
I am searching for a phone under 5 inch for current lineage os (and likely with support for next versions). It seems to be nearly unpossible. It is quite hard to check all supported phones for the display screen. Does someone knows if there is somewhere an overview of lineage phones where I can sort or filter the display size? Does someone uses such a phone with lineage?
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I own a Wileyfox Swift, as I looked for a Dual SIM device with LTE at an affordable price.
It is 5 inches, which I consider too big now, so I wonder if you found a smaller one in the meantime?

Is Android 10 possible for Mi6?

As usual after every new OS release, I want to ask here is there a ready of hope for an update to this beast?
If at all yes from which developer are we going to see the support?
Android 10 looks more polished and better. I am sure our Mi6 hardware surely supports it.
Any positive answers are welcome.
Thanks for your understanding.
Not only Android 10, I think we are covered for next couple of Android versions. Snapdragon 835 is a fairly popular processor. We can safely say Qualcomm will support 835 couple more years. So if there is support, there will be custom ROMs. Also, even after that, some intelligent guy / team will port Android 13, 14, 15 to it, for sure.
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Not only Android 10, I think we are covered for next couple of Android versions. Snapdragon 835 is a fairly popular processor. We can safely say Qualcomm will support 835 couple more years. So if there is support, there will be custom ROMs. Also, even after that, some intelligent guy / team will port Android 13, 14, 15 to it, for sure.
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Oh I see... Very nicely put. I didn't know this. Thanks for opening my ?. You belong to either Google or Xiaomi or one of the leading developer in custom ROM 's.
Thanks that you got yourself bothered to answer me...

General Oxygen OS and Color OS merging

Hi friends,
Six years ago, we created OxygenOS based on the idea that fast and smooth software is fundamental for a good smartphone experience. Since then, OxygenOS has proven to be one of the best Android operating systems available on the global market.
We started as a small brand, but since last year when our product portfolio started expanding much more quickly, we’ve come to realize that we need significantly more resources and a larger technology platform to make sure each product can receive stable and timely software updates, while delivering a world-class user experience.
After a lot of evaluation and discussion, we’ve come up with a solid plan to best leverage our shared resources with OPPO. In order to improve efficiency and standardize the software experience across our portfolio, we’re working on integrating the codebase of OxygenOS and ColorOS.
This is a change that you will likely not even notice since it’s happening behind the scenes. We now have a larger and even more capable team of developers, more advanced R&D resources, and a more streamlined development process all coming together to improve the OxygenOS experience.
OxygenOS remains the OS for global OnePlus users as always, but now built on a more stable and stronger platform. This will apply to new devices in the future, while for existing devices that are still within the maintenance schedule, it will occur via an OTA update along with Android 12.
Most importantly, with this change, we are happy to announce an improved software maintenance schedule for the lifecycle of our open market smartphones:
Flagship product line (including T / R): The OnePlus 8 series and newer devices will receive 3 major Android updates and 4 years of security updates.
Nord / Nord CE: The first OnePlus Nord and newer Nord / Nord CE devices will receive 2 major Android updates and 3 years of security updates.
Nord N series: Starting from N10 and N100, all N series devices will receive 1 major Android update and 3 years of security updates.
(Note: Flagship devices released prior to the OnePlus 8 series will follow the previous schedule of 2 major Android updates and 3 years of security updates. Software update plans for carrier versions will follow the requirements of our carrier partners.)
We believe that OxygenOS will continue to offer the best Android experience possible for you. Thanks for your continued feedback and support.
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Let's hope Oxygen forms the larger part since Color OS is NOT popular at all.
Also means that we will get 3 yrs of OS updates and 4 yrs of security updates.
Merging the 2 might just be good for custom development since there will be more devs working on a standard codebase.
how to go to lastest color os from 11.2.8.8 ? must wipe data ?
brmbjn said:
how to go to lastest color os from 11.2.8.8 ? must wipe data ?
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Why ask that here?
djsubterrain said:
Why ask that here?
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because
Oxygen OS and Color OS merging !​
brmbjn said:
because
Oxygen OS and Color OS merging !​
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Wow you only read title
djsubterrain said:
Let's hope Oxygen forms the larger part since Color OS is NOT popular at all.
Also means that we will get 3 yrs of OS updates and 4 yrs of security updates.
Merging the 2 might just be good for custom development since there will be more devs working on a standard codebase.
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Well the language seems to imply that oxygen will be the base and color os will just be merging in backend stuff, which as long as it doesnt start adding proprietary chinese bloat doesnt seem too bad to me. The bigger news in my mind is their commitment to 3 years of OS and 4 years of security updates. When they announced the merge with oppo everyone thought "oh so they are just going to stop caring and not support their phones as well" but it seems they are keeping their word on it enabling a better update schedule with more resources.
Wait ! What ??? You got Oxygen os 11.2.8.8 ?
null0seven said:
Wait ! What ??? You got Oxygen os 11.2.8.8 ?
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Not yet.
I think next update is coloros
I used Oxygen os for few weeks but returned to coloros, i can feel battery is better
I can't wait maybe we get better AnTuTu scores then like colorOS who scores 800k and oxygenOS 750k
It's official! The next version of Oxygen OS will be replaced with color os! All oneplus phones will now run color OS from August 2021! RIP Oxygen OS!
I keep hearing that color os is more battery friendly. I am curious how it is going to work out.
Color OS = China
Oxygen = world wide
You can NOT replace google store for the rest of the world ! Not that easy ! They Loose a Big peace of the market !
null0seven said:
Color OS = China
Oxygen = world wide
You can NOT replace google store for the rest of the world ! Not that easy ! They Loose a Big peace of the market !
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*Piece.
PKkeys said:
It's official! The next version of Oxygen OS will be replaced with color os! All oneplus phones will now run color OS from August 2021! RIP Oxygen OS!
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Eh, no.
Huigie said:
Eh, no.
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I don't know where he found that info but it's not true easy. They will continue oxygen and with the Android 12 new look will be introduced and for sure Oxygen Os will be different than Color Os to recognize both brands.
Some good perspective on this topic:
The OxygenOS-ColorOS merger was inevitable, and I'm looking forward to it
OxygenOS is merging with ColorOS, and that has me excited. There's a lot of potential for great things to happen, if it all goes well!
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