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[Q] Xperia Play Beginners guide?

Hey guys! I'm picking up an Xperia Play in a couple of days and was looking for some general advice about the phone. This will be my first Android device, I've been on WebOS/Garnet for my last two phones. I'm just a little overwhelmed with the options presented by the Play and Android in general. For instance, I'm not sure if I should root my phone or not - what are the advantages?
Any other general guides to Android/the Play would be wonderful if any such guides exist. I'm looking to deck this thing out with every emulator on the market as well as get the PSXperia hack up and running (I've downloaded the program, but can't figure out how to use it).
You can sense my overall noobishness in general, I'm sure. Any advice or tips about this device would be great. I'm really excited about the Play and getting comfortable with Android. Thanks everybody!

kershner25 said:
Hey guys! I'm picking up an Xperia Play in a couple of days and was looking for some general advice about the phone. This will be my first Android device, I've been on WebOS/Garnet for my last two phones. I'm just a little overwhelmed with the options presented by the Play and Android in general. For instance, I'm not sure if I should root my phone or not - what are the advantages?
Any other general guides to Android/the Play would be wonderful if any such guides exist. I'm looking to deck this thing out with every emulator on the market as well as get the PSXperia hack up and running (I've downloaded the program, but can't figure out how to use it).
You can sense my overall noobishness in general, I'm sure. Any advice or tips about this device would be great. I'm really excited about the Play and getting comfortable with Android. Thanks everybody!
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congratz im waiting for mine is the mail right now lol
rooting allows you to have full access to the file system sorta like a administrator
on a windows machine since out the box you cant edit files or remove bloatware without root you cant install certain programs from the market without root
also having root and unlocked bootloader allows you to flash a custom recovery image which will allow you to flash customs roms(a custom version of android dev by a user here on xda or anywhere in general)
yes i highly recommend but if you ever plan on returning the phone to verzion for example you will have to revert it back to stock
and for the program psxperia you need to install the latest version of java from java.com
and if your on a windows machine you double click the psxperiatool.JAR file
and it should run not sure on OSX
in the end you made a good choice on choosing android as mainstream as it became its still a powerful system way better IMO than ios or even webos
since android has so many developers theres gonna be an endless amount of programs
will post new finds myself etc

edokassiah said:
and unlocked bootloader allows you to flash a custom recovery image which will allow you to flash customs roms(a custom version of android dev by a user here on xda or anywhere in general)
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You cannot flash the recovery image directly or you will mess up boot partition, you need to flash a kernel with embedded recovery built in

Thanks for the info. I'm confused about the locked/unlocked bootloaders. How do I know which one I'll have? And how "easy" of a process is rooting the phone if I don't plan to install any custom roms or anything?
Also, how does transferring .apk files from my PC to the device work?

kershner25 said:
Thanks for the info. I'm confused about the locked/unlocked bootloaders. How do I know which one I'll have? And how "easy" of a process is rooting the phone if I don't plan to install any custom roms or anything?
Also, how does transferring .apk files from my PC to the device work?
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If you havent unlocked your bootloader yourself it is locked there are many risks and advantages to unlocking your bootloader, but if you dont intend to flash custom roms there really is no need, just like with root, if you dont know what it is, you probably wont need it
transfering .apk's from your pc is easy, just copy the .apk to your sd card, then use a file manager to find the .apk, tap on it and the installer will pop up , you need to tick unknown sources in settings though

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1176367

AndroHero said:
You cannot flash the recovery image directly or you will mess up boot partition, you need to flash a kernel with embedded recovery built in
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hes asking about android in general not aiming specifically at the xperia play

If I root my phone, do I have to switch everything back in order to get updates? All I really want to root my phone for would be to remove bloatware/speed it up a bit, is there a better way than rooting?

There is plenty of tutorials here, I suggest that you read, read, and then......read some more

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1176367
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Thanks so much for this link, it's seriously going to help me while rooting my phone. This might be a dumb question, but bear with me - better safe than a bricked phone. The guide to rooting in that link says that I need to flash my Play to the .184 Generic UK firmware...am I understanding it correctly that I need flash this firmware onto my American Verizon Play? I want to make sure nothing is going to get screwed up regionally, as I'm going to want to keep getting OTA updates and all that.

Just to share my own experiences since I'm new to the Xperia Play (previously had an Acer Liquid.. crappy hardware but great community of devs.. anyways..)
I'd recommend rooting your phone off the bat - the simple reason is rooting will involve wiping your phone's data, so if you already have a few months of use that means having to restore everything which is tiresome. First thing when my phone arrived was follow the rooting guide here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1116090
After that however I wouldn't recommend messing around TOO much with custom firmwares and such etc.. get used to the phone as it is and figure out what you like, don't like. if your like me within a few weeks or months you'll want something new - this is when you might want to start looking at messing around with the phone - new home launchers or even a new ROM (if your phone can have it's boot loader unlocked, from what I understand mine can't). The games and Emulators should keep you busy as is
The only customizing I've done to my phone is rooting it with Gingerbreak and using the leaked Sony Launcher.

I realize this is a pretty nooby thing to do that annoys all the veterans, but I consider this to be a fairly crucial piece of information I need before I attempt to root my phone, so I'm just gonna go ahead and bump this thing before it gets lost in the shuffle.
In order to root with a locked bootloader on an American Verizon XPlay, I need to flash to the .184 generic UK firmware, then root, then OTA update, correct?

kershner25 said:
I realize this is a pretty nooby thing to do that annoys all the veterans, but I consider this to be a fairly crucial piece of information I need before I attempt to root my phone, so I'm just gonna go ahead and bump this thing before it gets lost in the shuffle.
In order to root with a locked bootloader on an American Verizon XPlay, I need to flash to the .184 generic UK firmware, then root, then OTA update, correct?
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No. That method will not work on the r800x (verizon xplay) to root yours you will need to see [How-to] R800x Root
Dont worry about annoying people lol . Who cares what others think? Everyone has to start somewhere.
But it would be better with a stickied thread for new users to look @.

So now, instead of the 3 step process linked previously in this thread, I have to unlock the bootloader and do a whole bunch of other stuff? This method is like 100x more complicated. Is there no other way? I don't intend to install any custom roms, I strictly want to root solely for freezing bloatware.

No i dont think so. You would be better asking for help from other r800x owners in that thread.
The exploit gingerbreak uses on 2.3.2 was patched in 2.3.3 (worldwide) and was also patched by verizon before they released the handset on 2.3.2. Up untill the bootloader was unlocked on the r800x rooting was not possible.
Ask in that thread and you should recieve the help/info you are after.

hiya mate right ive rooted and put on custom recovery but now its screwed up my cam , wifi , and the market so be warned im trying to fix this problem as we speak
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im new to this to really but having a play with no cam and no wifi and no market. the market is there but cant dwnload nothing is taking the piss can anyone help me please

Mozza2k11 said:
But it would be better with a stickied thread for new users to look @.
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There is one already stickied in the Q&A section.That it has gone practically unnoticed counters this statement.

kershner25 said:
Thanks so much for this link, it's seriously going to help me while rooting my phone. This might be a dumb question, but bear with me - better safe than a bricked phone. The guide to rooting in that link says that I need to flash my Play to the .184 Generic UK firmware...am I understanding it correctly that I need flash this firmware onto my American Verizon Play? I want to make sure nothing is going to get screwed up regionally, as I'm going to want to keep getting OTA updates and all that.
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Their is not such thing as a bricked phone
always is a way to fix it and usually its as simple as flashing a FTF
or whatever stock rom your device uses takes like 5 minutes tops lol
and logsemans guides will tell you anything you need to know
just use them for refrence
Xperia Play Super Compilation (Q&A Sticky)
and if you head down the path of rooting and stuff
messing with files
you wont be able to get ota updates lol.
it will "brick you"

I recentally made a quick video with tips for android users/beginners if you want to watch it. Thought it would help people. http://youtu.be/Pd5DerUoEcY

[Q] New Sprint update available to 4.53.651.1 - break root???

Any of you super smart devs tell me if the new update from Sprint broke the new root methods?
I applied it like an idiot, it doesn't fix hardly anything that's wrong. I've given up on Sprint. I want to head off to Cyanogenmod land, but am worried it might be broken now.
Thanks!!!

mmark27 said:
Any of you super smart devs tell me if the new update from Sprint broke the new root methods?
I applied it like an idiot, it doesn't fix hardly anything that's wrong. I've given up on Sprint. I want to head off to Cyanogenmod land, but am worried it might be broken now.
Thanks!!!
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Did it change your H Boot Version?

mmark27 said:
Any of you super smart devs tell me if the new update from Sprint broke the new root methods?
I applied it like an idiot, it doesn't fix hardly anything that's wrong. I've given up on Sprint. I want to head off to Cyanogenmod land, but am worried it might be broken now.
Thanks!!!
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honestly, why did you do that??i just looked at androidcentral.com and the update doesnt fix anything special..anyway im sure a dev will have a rooted version soon..and just like he said, did it change the hboot?

You should always assume that an OTA update will break root (since it will not have Superuser installed) and that it may NAND Lock your phone (take away your S-OFF). If you want the update just wait around for a short time and a rooted version will appear here.

Well, try using an app that requires root permissions to see if it broke it, like titanium backup.

bpc4209 said:
Did it change your H Boot Version?
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Hboot version is 2.16.0001

It was not clear from your OP if you had already rooted and then took the OTA or you wanted to know if you could still root your phone.
That is the same Hboot as the previous OTA so you may still be able to root with Revolution if you have not already. If you did already root your phone you need to check to see if you still have S-OFF and a recovery that you can use to get CM loaded.

Boot to recovery (hold Vol - and Power button)
What version of HBoot is it?
Cardinal Rule:
Once rooted, never bother accessing the OTA section of your Sense ROM.

Sorry, I have never rooted and am a complete rooting noob.
[my reason is that I've had blown speakers, cracked screens, etc. and have had 5 different replacements from Sprint and don't want to void my warranty unless I can get it back to make it appear as though I've never rooted]
I did find that this Hboot version still seems to be supported with the new root methods. I have one real quick question, and I have a hard time sifting through the posts, threads, forums.
I want to root, flash a new ROM and want to be able to recover my stock Sprint ROM in case I need to send my phone back for the aforementioned issues. If I follow the root procedures and install Amon_RA's backup and backup the current ROM, I should be able to flash that ROM and get back to S-ON? or would I have to go through some procedure to get back S-ON?
Again, my apologies for posting what's been posted probably 1000 times, you can just link me to a thread....I haven't been successful in my searches for a definitive answer. And the "noob guide" sticky on the forum hasn't been updated to the new root methods, so I'm not sure what will brick me and what is usable.

yes, I will never OTA update after rooting, but in case I want to get back to a stock ROM from Sprint for warranty trade in purposes.
follow up noob question to rooting, all the proper radios and account information will be imported into my phone after flashing a new ROM? Or will I have to know specific radios, PRLs or basebands after I root. It's my primary device so I can't afford to be without.

Damn. Just rooted a few days ago under the assumption Sprint has moved on as far as supporting the EVO.... Dig root but I hope this doesn't create a problem when the update is forced on me.

You can always turn off auto update, and you can also hit cancel if the auto updater pops up. You do not Have to ever update your phone if you dont want to

And if you do decide that you want the update you can wait for a rooted version to appear on XDA and flash that.

m20120 said:
And if you do decide that you want the update you can wait for a rooted version to appear on XDA and flash that.
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*noob alert* Those normally appear in the Development forum, correct? Is there a particular title I should be looking for?

No offense, and I really mean that, but you should not root your phone if you are that worried about the consequences. If you aren't willing to accept that Sprint may be able to tell you rooted you phone then deny you warranty repairs just stick with what you have. Once you get past that point then its time to have some rooting fun.
Seriously though, everyone is going to tell you how great root is, but I bet 60% or better never actually do anything with their phone that would have required root to being with!

But to get back to a factory state, all I'd need to do is flash a Sprint RUU and turn S-ON. I'd assume that's pretty straight forward, I was just curious if anyone here knew the best instructions that were easy to follow.

mmark27 said:
But to get back to a factory state, all I'd need to do is flash a Sprint RUU and turn S-ON. I'd assume that's pretty straight forward, I was just curious if anyone here knew the best instructions that were easy to follow.
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Using older root methods (pre-Gingerbread), yes. But the new root method for GB/Hboot 2.16 installs a new, non-official hboot - 6.16. No one has been able to get the s-on tool to work or downgrade to a different hboot. You can flash an RUU that will take you back to stock, but you cannot gain s-on. Whether or not Sprint cares about the s-off 6.16 hboot, I don't know. Sprint is supposed to service rooted phones as long as the firmware is stock. If it's not, they'll RUU for you. You may have problems or you may not, kind of depends on who you deal with.
The revolutionary root method is still in a beta phase, what I believe they call a "developer preview" or something. Perhaps once it's released officially there will be an easy way to gain s-on.
I think that if you are worried about rooting or don't know why you would be rooting ("it seems cool" is not a legitimate reason) then you shouldn't do it. But that's just my opinion.
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my reason is that I'm sick of Sprint/HTC's flaky software that breaks things like wireless-n, my ability to stream music/contacts with my car stereo over bluetooth, icons constantly disappearing after reboot, Sense rebooting itself, etc. I don't care about its "cool" factor, I want control - its android, right? otherwise I'd just go get an ibone.
Thank you for that update on the 6.16 Hboot change and S-off/on status, its very helpful. Any thoughts on my question of new ROMs will know how to contact the Sprint network with all my information properly, or do I have to do something fancy to that.

I don't know...last month I couldn't root 2 or 3 weeks ago root pops up for GB 2.3.3 I rooted my phone and to tell you the truth I ain't gonna lie I'm still a noob when it comes to rooting...but I think once you try it yo ass ain't never goin back lol cuz I've been on CM7 this whole time and I'm blown away I'm gonna try out vaelpak RC2 tonight when I get home there's just so much you can do...but that's jus my opinion
Spectacles, Testicles, Wallet & Watch, evO²·³·³

does anyone know what sense version this update is or is it still the crappy sense 1.0

Help me with 4.4 kit Kat root

My bootloader is still locked and I've never had root on this phone got it too late to unlock. I'd like to root and if I can get a custom recovery and flash a rom. Can anyone help?
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Gblake13 said:
My bootloader is still locked and I've never had root on this phone got it too late to unlock. I'd like to root and if I can get a custom recovery and flash a rom. Can anyone help?
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Right now, there is no way to root or unlock the bootloader in your situation. It sucks, but it's where we are.
Don't hold your breath for an exploit, either. Motorola/Verizon closed all known holes for BL-unlocking in the penultimate Jellybean OTA, and the only root method that worked in the last JB no longer works here.

Enough with the KK unlock and root threads.
I'm going to start reporting people that make these threads without doing some homework first.
If you have a locked bootloader, you're pretty much up the creek without a paddle. End of discussion
If there is an exploit available, trust me, you'll know about it.

gtmaster303 said:
Enough with the KK unlock and root threads.
I'm going to start reporting people that make these threads without doing some homework first.
If you have a locked bootloader, you're pretty much up the creek without a paddle. End of discussion
If there is an exploit available, trust me, you'll know about it.
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We can say this in every thread where they ask about root. We put warnings out prior to the OTA. Heck, we could probably put a sticky thread in this section about there being no root on KK, yet people will still ask. Why? Because they refuse to take 5 minutes to read through the other 37 KK related threads.

RikRong said:
We can say this in every thread where they ask about root. We put warnings out prior to the OTA. Heck, we could probably put a sticky thread in this section about there being no root on KK, yet people will still ask. Why? Because they refuse to take 5 minutes to read through the other 37 KK related threads.
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I of course can't speak for anyone else, but I knew the risks well before taking the update, and updated anyway.
I knew it was the very un-XDA thing to do, but frustration with the short battery life and UI lag on my phone was nearing a breaking point.
I tried to make the most of it; hence the "list of changes" thread, which hopefully has scared away locked users who are still n JB.

Any luck with a rootkeeper/root survival of any kind?

pnwsr6 said:
Any luck with a rootkeeper/root survival of any kind?
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Haven't seen it yet.

Strife89 said:
I of course can't speak for anyone else, but I knew the risks well before taking the update, and updated anyway.
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My story is somewhat different. I tried to find a way to get rooted KK on my phone (trying to play junior hacker again), ended up soft-bricking my phone to where the only way to fix it was to flash stock KK using RSDLite (did try RSD'ing JB first, but my bootloader was having none of that).
So now I'm hopelessly stuck with a completely stock phone without root.
I feel like the only way to get past this is to attack it politically, like if every single Verizon XDA user banded together and flooded Verizon corporate inboxes with legitimate reasons why we need unlocked bootloaders.
Or maybe if someone is good friends with a politician who is more left of center and concerned about consumer rights over corporations. Maybe convince them that it's better for the environment because potentially millions of phones could be saved from going into landfills if we mandate companies must allow bootloader to be unlocked when certain conditions are fulfilled, like if a phone reaches 1-year of age.

Strife89 said:
I of course can't speak for anyone else, but I knew the risks well before taking the update, and updated anyway.
I knew it was the very un-XDA thing to do, but frustration with the short battery life and UI lag on my phone was nearing a breaking point.
I tried to make the most of it; hence the "list of changes" thread, which hopefully has scared away locked users who are still n JB.
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I new I was losing root with it as well. I liked the features that KK brought with the update and still did it. The update finally got me using Smart Actions and I'm getting pretty decent battery life, nothing mind blowing, but pretty good. Buying a portable battery pack has pretty much solved the problem I had with nonroot. Now I can go about 2 days as long as I carry it around, lol. Luckily it's small.

if I have an unlocked BL, and the latest stock version on KK, how would I get root? Is it possible?
thanks.

Ahoalton said:
if I have an unlocked BL, and the latest stock version on KK, how would I get root? Is it possible?
thanks.
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Flash a custom recovery via fastboot, and then flash SuperSU zip in recovery.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/orig-development/root-4-4-x-pie-motorola-devices-t2771623 <-- this thread (not saying it works) is getting popular with Motorola devices. I attempted it myself and got errors just like some other people. Only difference is they still had root and I don't. I suggest following the thread and seeing if it does someday work for us or somebody could attempt it themselves. I'm currently on windows 8.1 so that could be a problem.

megaghostgamer said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/orig-development/root-4-4-x-pie-motorola-devices-t2771623 <-- this thread (not saying it works) is getting popular with Motorola devices. I attempted it myself and got errors just like some other people. Only difference is they still had root and I don't. I suggest following the thread and seeing if it does someday work for us or somebody could attempt it themselves. I'm currently on windows 8.1 so that could be a problem.
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^^^He doesn't need an exploit since he has an unlocked BL. Also, this has been checked on the M and HD family of devices, it WILL NOT work because the the current KK updates have already patched the hole that this exploit is meant to take advantage of.

Ahoalton said:
if I have an unlocked BL, and the latest stock version on KK, how would I get root? Is it possible?
thanks.
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Yes!.. Just use URL="http://androidhosting.org/Devs/Dhacker29/msm8960/CWM6049-RAZR-HD_M-KITKAT.img"]custom recovery[/URL] and flash Superuser zip

And what about aka test points? Many Motorola models had such special test points using which you could get unlock of BL. How about our XT907? Any ideas about test points or shortcircuit of contacts?

No need now! Towelroot will root stock KK, and what magic it does allows Motopocalypse to unlock BL again.

http://www.droid-life.com/2014/06/16/motorola-bootloader-unlock-razr-hd-towelroot/
Confirmed working!
Root and bootloader unlock!
Sent from my Droid RAZR M

GnatGoSplat said:
No need now! Towelroot will root stock KK, and what magic it does allows Motopocalypse to unlock BL again.
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Towel Root only allows the root access that Motopocalypse needs. The old trust zone was accidentally (or purposely) put back into this OTA, that's what Motopocalyse exploits.
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RikRong said:
Towel Root only allows the root access that Motopocalypse needs. The old trust zone was accidentally (or purposely) put back into this OTA, that's what Motopocalyse exploits.
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Ah, I see. Good to know. :good:

Root for lg metropcs k10 (ms428)

Is there any working and safe root for ms428 (k10 metrocps variant)?
I have been looking everywhere. Tried kingoroot but still no go.
I am starting to get frustrated

I'm giving one more week then exchanging it. I too am surprised there's no root method out yet. I bricked and exchanged a device already. No success trying to recover the device either using the Spanish screenshot disaster explanation which doesn't work.

infamousvincci said:
Is there any working and safe root for ms428 (k10 metrocps variant)?
I have been looking everywhere. Tried kingoroot but still no go.
I am starting to get frustrated
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strange since kingroot worked for me but bricked my device i would suggest being patient and wait for one to come out since Kingroot and lieky other one click root ways are off the table for rooting the K10

AngryUserLG said:
strange since kingroot worked for me but bricked my device i would suggest being patient and wait for one to come out since Kingroot and lieky other one click root ways are off the table for rooting the K10
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Yeah im thnking of returning it to metropcs too.
No root means no happiness haha.
What unit can we get tho if we return it? Anything thats close to this k10?

infamousvincci said:
Yeah im thnking of returning it to metropcs too.
No root means no happiness haha.
What unit can we get tho if we return it? Anything thats close to this k10?
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I would say LG Stylo is closest but the camera isn't as good. Lens and size is nice but hardware processing is crap, but seems like every store has been on back order for them and with Stylo 2 out it's probably going to be shelved soon. I have faith in King root for solid success with k10 soon though.

AngryUserLG said:
strange since kingroot worked for me but bricked my device i would suggest being patient and wait for one to come out since Kingroot and lieky other one click root ways are off the table for rooting the K10
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DBoyFloyd said:
I would say LG Stylo is closest but the camera isn't as good. Lens and size is nice but hardware processing is crap, but seems like every store has been on back order for them and with Stylo 2 out it's probably going to be shelved soon. I have faith in King root for solid success with k10 soon though.
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We cant even use link2sd. This phone has 16gb rom but can let us use only 10gb. Smh.
No 3d games for us. And were not even allowed to mount the sd card as internal storage. Only portable.

Maybe the Galaxy J. I loved the Stylo but the GPS didn't work if the phone got hot.

I just got this pjone today because my old one broke and i had no way to research phones
Guy at metro over hyped it
Someone said there is an sd slot well where is it
And no root i even asked yhe ghy if i could root ot he said ya
Pissed

Xieon1 said:
I just got this pjone today because my old one broke and i had no way to research phones
Guy at metro over hyped it
Someone said there is an sd slot well where is it
And no root i even asked yhe ghy if i could root ot he said ya
Pissed
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Well, I can answer one of your questions. The sd card slot over laps the sim card slot.
We're all patiently waiting for root, my friend.

shooey_ said:
Well, I can answer one of your questions. The sd card slot over laps the sim card slot.
We're all patiently waiting for root, my friend.
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my patience is running out tho hahaha. 8gb worth of system files is crazy. they shouldve just put it as 8gb phone internal. instead of 16gb haha.

I'm running out of patience also. I've posted requests on android forums twice asking why there is no support for this phone and still haven't gotten a reply. It makes no sense whatsoever, when I got my old L70 there was a big support forum for it and the LgK10 is a much better phone so why no support? Pissing me off.
At least I would like a reason from Android Forums for why they have ignored the K10.

Rogue_Jets said:
I'm running out of patience also. I've posted requests on android forums twice asking why there is no support for this phone and still haven't gotten a reply. It makes no sense whatsoever, when I got my old L70 there was a big support forum for it and the LgK10 is a much better phone so why no support? Pissing me off.
At least I would like a reason from Android Forums for why they have ignored the K10.
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I'd buy the L70 again. It was an awesome little phone. Totally agree re: lack of communication. It looks like we had someone post up a failed root attempt about two weeks ago, along with another dev mentioning he'd start on it with no response since.
Devs, we just want to know if there's someone out there actively working on the K10. I can absolutely respect the time it takes to get it done right, but we can't tell if we're waiting on someone or no one.
I'm about ready to jump ship for the J7 or an original G Stylo (if I can get my hands on one). The bloat and stock setup on the K10 are maddening.

Can temp obtain root
I can get root temp using kingroot
Usjng the latest version of kingroot and will either root, or fail all the way to the request research for root button
I lose the root as soon as my phone restarts
The first time I tried it I got root, and phone made no restarts.
The second time I tried to get root back it eventually failed all the way to the research screen but the device did reboot several times during the kingroot root.
The latest time I rooted it the same as the first, no reboot.
I believe part of the problem is keeping kingroot as the superuser app, I think if I replace it with super su it may keep root.
I've seen several people say supersu ends up brick phone
Screen shot below please put together since I can't post links yet
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anybody tried this? http://www.supersuroot.com/

wizzardsk said:
anybody tried this? http://www.supersuroot.com/
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Ive read the thread. Im not sure i follow tho.
Were suppose to install twrp first before we gain root access?
So that method is a flashable method then?

infamousvincci said:
Ive read the thread. Im not sure i follow tho.
Were suppose to install twrp first before we gain root access?
So that method is a flashable method then?
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Has anyone tried this and have proof that it works?

Xieon2 said:
I can get root temp using kingroot
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Out of curiosity, are you running the MS428?

shooey_ said:
Out of curiosity, are you running the MS428?
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I am but it looks like we may be screwed without any sort of help from the forums folks. It just doesn't make sense that they would bypass giving this phone any consideration for support.

Count me as someone else looking to root this phone

Xieon2 said:
I can get root temp using kingroot
Usjng the latest version of kingroot and will either root, or fail all the way to the request research for root button
I lose the root as soon as my phone restarts
The first time I tried it I got root, and phone made no restarts.
The second time I tried to get root back it eventually failed all the way to the research screen but the device did reboot several times during the kingroot root.
The latest time I rooted it the same as the first, no reboot.
I believe part of the problem is keeping kingroot as the superuser app, I think if I replace it with super su it may keep root.
I've seen several people say supersu ends up brick phone
Screen shot below please put together since I can't post links yet
i63.tinypic. com/wimv00.png
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what software version do you have?
I rooted before, then it bricked the phone. I sent it to warranty, after the sent it back, i cant root anymore

Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Battery Drain

First off, I am a newbie here, so please be kind.
I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 4 (SM-N910V), running Android 6.0.1 stock Verizon ROM.
I have been getting some strange battery issues. Not charging to 100%, shutting off at 35%, stuff like that.
I have wiped the cache partition and done a factory reset with no luck.
I have replaced the battery.
When I boot into recovery mode, I get dead Android, no command.
I don't know if the problems are related, but I suspect so.
Don't know what else to do. Any help would be appreciated.

soccerplayer00321 said:
First off, I am a newbie here, so please be kind.
I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 4 (SM-N910V), running Android 6.0.1 stock Verizon ROM.
I have been getting some strange battery issues. Not charging to 100%, shutting off at 35%, stuff like that.
I have wiped the cache partition and done a factory reset with no luck.
I have replaced the battery.
When I boot into recovery mode, I get dead Android, no command.
I don't know if the problems are related, but I suspect so.
Don't know what else to do. Any help would be appreciated.
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Do you have an unlocked bootloader (root)? You could try reflashing twrp with odin to get recovery back.

No, not rooted. Have always been afraid to brick the device. If that is the direction that I have to go then I will give it a shot. I figure there are enough directions on here I could probably figure it out.

soccerplayer00321 said:
No, not rooted. Have always been afraid to brick the device. If that is the direction that I have to go then I will give it a shot. I figure there are enough directions on here I could probably figure it out.
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If you don't want to root, you could try flashing the cpd1 firmware with odin and that should overwrite what might be throwing off your battery calibration. Unless it's a hardware problem that is. Are you comfortable using odin? Also if you have no interest in rooting, you could flash the most recent firmware.

I am a little familiar with Odin. I used it to put Android 6.0.1 onto my phone. Cpd1? This is the first that I am hearing (or reading) anything about cpd1. I would be interested in rooting, the biggest problem that I have with doing so is that most of the instructions that I have found are written for someone who has a better grasp of this stuff that I do. Do you know of any simple step-by-step walkthroughs? One that a newbie like myself could actually follow.
From what I've read about rooting, I am definitely interested, but still paranoid about bricking the phone. I do have an S5 as a backup if need be, so I am reluctantly willing to give it a shot.

soccerplayer00321 said:
I am a little familiar with Odin. I used it to put Android 6.0.1 onto my phone. Cpd1? This is the first that I am hearing (or reading) anything about cpd1. I would be interested in rooting, the biggest problem that I have with doing so is that most of the instructions that I have found are written for someone who has a better grasp of this stuff that I do. Do you know of any simple step-by-step walkthroughs? One that a newbie like myself could actually follow.
From what I've read about rooting, I am definitely interested, but still paranoid about bricking the phone. I do have an S5 as a backup if need be, so I am reluctantly willing to give it a shot.
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I was just referring to the first mm firmware that ends with cpd1 and the reason I suggested that particular one was just in case you were thinking of rooting. If you use any of the "safe" firmwares you should be ok though. I agree about the rooting process, it's not the most user friendly thing I've ever seen, but it really isn't as bad as it looks. As long as your using the files provided in those threads there really isn't a huge risk in bricking your phone. Worst case scenario, you get into a jam that takes a little while to get out of so be sure that you leave yourself time to recover in case you can't use your phone for a couple hours. I think the worst part is the instability of kingroot which means you have to do all the adb commands as quick as possible and the fact that if you want mm you have to do the root process twice. These are the two posts that got me through it:
Lollipop
Marshmallow
Start with Lp first, it's necessary to unlock that before going to mm. If your problem is software related, installing the firmwares to root should fix things. Best of luck!

kevintm78 said:
I was just referring to the first mm firmware that ends with cpd1 and the reason I suggested that particular one was just in case you were thinking of rooting. If you use any of the "safe" firmwares you should be ok though. I agree about the rooting process, it's not the most user friendly thing I've ever seen, but it really isn't as bad as it looks. As long as your using the files provided in those threads there really isn't a huge risk in bricking your phone. Worst case scenario, you get into a jam that takes a little while to get out of so be sure that you leave yourself time to recover in case you can't use your phone for a couple hours. I think the worst part is the instability of kingroot which means you have to do all the adb commands as quick as possible and the fact that if you want mm you have to do the root process twice. These are the two posts that got me through it:
Lollipop
Marshmallow
Start with Lp first, it's necessary to unlock that before going to mm. If your problem is software related, installing the firmwares to root should fix things. Best of luck!
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First off, thanks for your help. I appreciate it.
I finally got around to trying to do this with my phone and I can't even get past the first step. Install King Root, 4.8.5. I've tried 4.8.5 and 5.0, and neither one of them can get root access. Don't know what else to try.

soccerplayer00321 said:
First off, thanks for your help. I appreciate it.
I finally got around to trying to do this with my phone and I can't even get past the first step. Install King Root, 4.8.5. I've tried 4.8.5 and 5.0, and neither one of them can get root access. Don't know what else to try.
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Did you ever have any luck with kingroot? If you haven't tried already, do a factory reset before you start the process and if it fails uninstall, reboot, reinstall and try again. I know it's a frustrating process and it seems to take most people many tries. When it fails on you how far does it get?

Kingroot was really frustrating. It would never get past 52%. After countless tries I moved to kingoroot. Kingo root worked on first try. Glad I unlocked and rooted my note 4
Sent from my SM-N910V using XDA-Developers mobile app

kevintm78 said:
Did you ever have any luck with kingroot? If you haven't tried already, do a factory reset before you start the process and if it fails uninstall, reboot, reinstall and try again. I know it's a frustrating process and it seems to take most people many tries. When it fails on you how far does it get?
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No luck on Kingroot. It usually dies around 25% or so. Sometimes a little before that and sometimes after that. It never even got into the 35% range.
What I think I am going to do is go back to kitkat, original samsung rom. Try Kingoroot and see if that works. If not, I will push lolipop to it and try kingoroot again. If that doesn't work, I will try to push Marshmallow to it and try one more time. Hopefully one of them will be successful.

Ive never had issues bringing a device back on OS but this N4 is kicking my a&% bad. bought a used ( basically new ) sm-n910v it was updated to 6.0.1 mm and I'm not crazy about the MM I like KK and ive tried every firmware file known to man ive tried to slowly step back from 6.0 to 5.1.1 then 5.0 then 4.4.4 and they all fail says binary fused to boot 1 or something else and with 5.1.1 gets right to the end 99% then fails. would like to root and BL unlock any suggestions would be great. thanx in advance.

fastjohnson said:
Ive never had issues bringing a device back on OS but this N4 is kicking my a&% bad. bought a used ( basically new ) sm-n910v it was updated to 6.0.1 mm and I'm not crazy about the MM I like KK and ive tried every firmware file known to man ive tried to slowly step back from 6.0 to 5.1.1 then 5.0 then 4.4.4 and they all fail says binary fused to boot 1 or something else and with 5.1.1 gets right to the end 99% then fails. would like to root and BL unlock any suggestions would be great. thanx in advance.
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I believe you can only get root on kk with a developer edition version of the v model. If it's a retail version and you want root it has to be at least 5.1.1 unfortunately. Have you tried the links in this post? Imo those are the best guides that I've seen to get your bootloader unlocked.

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I believe you can only get root on kk with a developer edition version of the v model. If it's a retail version and you want root it has to be at least 5.1.1 unfortunately. Have you tried the links in this post? Imo those are the best guides that I've seen to get your bootloader unlocked.
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Yah I've tried most of them 5.1.1 gets to 98% then pooches out its exciting then bombs out, lol 4.4 doesn't get passed cache then fails. I'm using Odin 30.9, high quality data cable, thing is I can't move 》 till I can root to unlock the bootloader. My CID is 150 so that's good and I'm factory resetting the phone and pulling the SD card so it cannot mess with the flash. I'm running the NO_ A boot firmware that flashed perfect. Maybe I'm doing something wrong but I'm following the directions to the point.

fastjohnson said:
Yah I've tried most of them 5.1.1 gets to 98% then pooches out its exciting then bombs out, lol 4.4 doesn't get passed cache then fails. I'm using Odin 30.9, high quality data cable, thing is I can't move 》 till I can root to unlock the bootloader. My CID is 150 so that's good and I'm factory resetting the phone and pulling the SD card so it cannot mess with the flash. I'm running the NO_ A boot firmware that flashed perfect. Maybe I'm doing something wrong but I'm following the directions to the point.
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It may not make a difference, but there is a newer version of Odin here that you could try.

kevintm78 said:
It may not make a difference, but there is a newer version of Odin here that you could try.
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I'll give it a shot, right now I'm a Lil burned out on trying this because my other phone LG g4 is boot looped for no reason so I'm down to just my N4 and my N3 my gf has it. I forsee a big cup of coffee at 3am and let the flashing begin. Oh FYI I did try I think Odin 3.10 version it failed quicker so I'll try this version in the morning. I appreciate your help very much you'll be the 1st to know if it pushes through. Merry Christmas btw.

back on topic, I'm seeing kernel wakelocks for msm_hsic_host on Oscar kernel v1.3 but I'm pretty sure that was not always the case. Since that kernel hasn't been updated in a little while, I'm looking at others. Anyone got a preferred kernel with JasmineROM 7?

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back on topic, I'm seeing kernel wakelocks for msm_hsic_host on Oscar kernel v1.3 but I'm pretty sure that was not always the case. Since that kernel hasn't been updated in a little while, I'm looking at others. Anyone got a preferred kernel with JasmineROM 7?
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Reflashed and thought the wakelocks were gone, but not so. msm_hsic_host appears to be related to cellular.

flyers00 said:
Kingroot was really frustrating. It would never get past 52%. After countless tries I moved to kingoroot. Kingo root worked on first try. Glad I unlocked and rooted my note 4
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What I've noticed with this bootloader unlock is, like right now I'm 5.1.1 and my bootloader is unlocked but not rooted. OK if I use the the no A boot 6.0.1 file to flash mm it's stay unlocked and you can be rooted but if you use the normal full firmware 6.0.1 cpd1 file you lose your unlocked BL and back to start. Normally you unlock a BL it's stays unlocked no matter what you do. OK bugs with the no A boot 6.0.1 mm file no WiFi that's it. I really dislike 5.1.1 it sucks so there's not a lot of choices here. Good work on this exploit though.