Hi,
I have received new Nexus 5x LGH791, which is European version.
I live in North American and have T-moble service.
Would this phone with with T-mobile, including 4G LTE?
Also, would it work with Project Fi? I understand that Sprint is using CDMA and T-Mobile is GSM network, and this phone doesn't support CDMA. Can it still work with T-mobile only within Project Fi?
Thanks a lot for your help in advance!
two seconds of googling man. there are 3 versions:
North America:
GSM/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900MHz
UMTS/WCDMA: B1/2/4/5/8
CDMA: BC0/1/10
LTE (FDD): B1/2/3/4/5/7/12/13/17/20/25/26/29
LTE (TDD): B41
LTE CA DL: B2-B2, B2-B4, B2-B5, B2-B12, B2-B13, B2-B17, B2-B29, B4-B4, B4-B5, B4-B7, B4-B12, B4-B13, B4-B17, B4-B29, B41-B41
Verizon customers: If you have a new SIM card and are having problems activating it, try restarting your phone. If that doesn't work, call Verizon Customer Care at (800) 922-0204. You'll need your IMEI number, which you can find by going to Settings > About phone > Status > IMEI information.
Hong Kong:
GSM/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900MHz
UMTS/WCDMA: B1/2/5/8
TDS-CDMA : B34/39
LTE (FDD): B1/3/7/8/26
LTE (TDD): B38/39/40/41
LTE CA DL: B1-B3, B3-B3, B3-B7, B3-B8, B39-B41, B41C-B41C
Rest of world:
GSM/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900MHz
UMTS/WCDMA: B1/2/4/5/6/8/9/19
CDMA: not supported
LTE (FDD): B1/2 /3/ 4/5/7/8/9/17/18/19/20/26/28
LTE (TDD): B38/40/41
LTE CA DL: B1-B3, B1-B5, B1-B7, B1-B8, B1-B18, B1-B19, B1-B26, B3-B3, B3-B5, B3-B7, B3-B8, B3-B19, B3-B20, B3-B28, B5-B7, B7-B7, B7-B20, B7-B28, B40-B40, B41-B41
https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/6102470?hl=en
2x4 said:
two seconds of googling man. there are 3 versions:
North America:
GSM/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900MHz
UMTS/WCDMA: B1/2/4/5/8
CDMA: BC0/1/10
LTE (FDD): B1/2/3/4/5/7/12/13/17/20/25/26/29
LTE (TDD): B41
LTE CA DL: B2-B2, B2-B4, B2-B5, B2-B12, B2-B13, B2-B17, B2-B29, B4-B4, B4-B5, B4-B7, B4-B12, B4-B13, B4-B17, B4-B29, B41-B41
Verizon customers: If you have a new SIM card and are having problems activating it, try restarting your phone. If that doesn't work, call Verizon Customer Care at (800) 922-0204. You'll need your IMEI number, which you can find by going to Settings > About phone > Status > IMEI information.
Hong Kong:
GSM/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900MHz
UMTS/WCDMA: B1/2/5/8
TDS-CDMA : B34/39
LTE (FDD): B1/3/7/8/26
LTE (TDD): B38/39/40/41
LTE CA DL: B1-B3, B3-B3, B3-B7, B3-B8, B39-B41, B41C-B41C
Rest of world:
GSM/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900MHz
UMTS/WCDMA: B1/2/4/5/6/8/9/19
CDMA: not supported
LTE (FDD): B1/2 /3/ 4/5/7/8/9/17/18/19/20/26/28
LTE (TDD): B38/40/41
LTE CA DL: B1-B3, B1-B5, B1-B7, B1-B8, B1-B18, B1-B19, B1-B26, B3-B3, B3-B5, B3-B7, B3-B8, B3-B19, B3-B20, B3-B28, B5-B7, B7-B7, B7-B20, B7-B28, B40-B40, B41-B41
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi,
Thanks, I know that there are different phone versions. I was asking if my LGH791 'Rest of world' version of the phone would work with T-mobile's 4G LTE? I've read somewhere that T-mobile's 4G LTE works in B2 and B4 LTE bands, which this phone does support, and wanted to confirm that. Also, since Google's Project Fi works with T-mobile, then can this phone work with Project Fi also and stay only in T-mobile's network (not switching to Sprint's CDMA network)? Thanks!
LTE Frequencies:
1700 MHz & 2100 MHz AWS band 4
1900 MHz PCS band 2 (in refarmed areas)
Lower 700 MHz band 12 (in development) / in service in selected areas
3G/4G Frequencies (WCDMA):
1700 MHz & 2100 MHz AWS band 4
1900 MHz PCS band 2 (in refarmed areas)
2G Frequencies (GSM/GPRS/EDGE):
1900 MHz PCS band 2
Should be fine. I don't see why you'd have a problem with Project Fi, it just wouldn't ever see CDMA.
---------- Post added at 11:56 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:54 PM ----------
You won't have band 12, but neither do I since we get to enjoy the lovely TV channel 51 instead.
exninja said:
LTE Frequencies:
1700 MHz & 2100 MHz AWS band 4
1900 MHz PCS band 2 (in refarmed areas)
Lower 700 MHz band 12 (in development) / in service in selected areas
3G/4G Frequencies (WCDMA):
1700 MHz & 2100 MHz AWS band 4
1900 MHz PCS band 2 (in refarmed areas)
2G Frequencies (GSM/GPRS/EDGE):
1900 MHz PCS band 2
Should be fine. I don't see why you'd have a problem with Project Fi, it just wouldn't ever see CDMA.
---------- Post added at 11:56 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:54 PM ----------
You won't have band 12, but neither do I since we get to enjoy the lovely TV channel 51 instead.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry for my noob question, would flashing a newer baseband/radio help to get band 12 on h791?
No, available frequencies would depend on hardware.
exninja said:
No, available frequencies would depend on hardware.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you. However, I found a few topics that some users had difficulties with band 12 with US version, by my understanding the issue is related to providers, mostly t-mobile. Do you know what this is all about?
No, I haven't really cared about band 12 since i found out my metro area wouldn't get it until they get rid of the TV station
Related
Oppo 7 Advertises:
Mexico & US:
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900MHz
WCDMA: 850/900/1700/1900/2100 MHz
FDD-LTE: Bands B1/4/17
AT&T Bands:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT&T_Mobility#Radio_frequency_summary
Here's my question:
I see 850 MHz for both GSM/GPRS/EDGE and HSPA+... Does this mean that it will default to HSPA+ when it exists?
I just don't want it to toggle from LTE to 2G, heh...
XpediencY said:
Oppo 7 Advertises:
Mexico & US:
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900MHz
WCDMA: 850/900/1700/1900/2100 MHz
FDD-LTE: Bands B1/4/17
AT&T Bands:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT&T_Mobility#Radio_frequency_summary
Here's my question:
I see 850 MHz for both GSM/GPRS/EDGE and HSPA+... Does this mean that it will default to HSPA+ when it exists?
I just don't want it to toggle from LTE to 2G, heh...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes. Default preference order is LTE, then HSPA+/WCDMA, then EDGE/GPRS/GSM
Anyone else notice the GSM Arena band listings for the OnePlus 3 states CDMA for the North America model? Anyone planning on using this phone for a carrier on a CDMA network, what are your thoughts?
Technology
GSM / HSPA / EVDO / LTE
2G bands GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - SIM 1 & SIM 2
3G bands HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700(AWS) / 1900 / 2100 - North America
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - Global model
CDMA2000 1xEV-DO - North America
4G bands LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 12(700), 17(700) - North America
LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 20(800), 38(2600), 40(2300), 41(2500) - Global model
Speed HSPA 42.2/5.76 Mbps, LTE Cat6 300/50 Mbps
GPRS Yes
EDGE Yes
There's no CDMA.
Is there a source? Personally I use AT&T, and I see if it is true what is showing, then it is 3g CDMA data only, but you say just no. Trying to help others who may be interested to know this what they may be getting...
According to the OnePlus website it does include CDMA, but it won't work on LTE on Sprint or Verizon. It does not have any of Sprint's LTE bands and does not have Verizon's main LTE band, and neither carrier would activate it because of that.
My guess is it is possibly for abroad CDMA then.
I bought a LG-H791F and I did not remember to look where the correct model to my country.
In my city does not have 4G yet.
Will this version works in Brazilian 4G?
leuuuuu said:
I bought a LG-H791F and I did not remember to look where the correct model to my country.
In my city does not have 4G yet.
Will this version works in Brazilian 4G?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The LG-H791 is the international version of the Nexus 5x. It supports these LTE bands:
LTE (FDD) bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/9/17/18/19/20/26/28
LTE (TDD) bands: 38/40/41
LTE CA DL: B1-B3, B1-B5, B1-B7, B1-B8, B1-B18, B1-B19, B1-B26, B3-B3, B3-B5, B3-B7, B3-B8, B3-B19, B3-B20, B3-B28, B5-B7, B7-B7, B7-B20, B7-B28, B40-B40, B41-B41
The LTE bands available from all the different carriers in Brazil are:
LTE Bands: 3 - 7 - 28 - 38
Your device will work with any of the Brazilian carriers including Claro, Nextel, Oi, ON Telecom, SKY Brazil, TIM and VIVO. You won't have any problems. Good luck.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using XDA-Developers mobile app
fast69mopar said:
The LG-H791 is the international version of the Nexus 5x. It supports these LTE bands:
LTE (FDD) bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/9/17/18/19/20/26/28
LTE (TDD) bands: 38/40/41
LTE CA DL: B1-B3, B1-B5, B1-B7, B1-B8, B1-B18, B1-B19, B1-B26, B3-B3, B3-B5, B3-B7, B3-B8, B3-B19, B3-B20, B3-B28, B5-B7, B7-B7, B7-B20, B7-B28, B40-B40, B41-B41
The LTE bands available from all the different carriers in Brazil are:
LTE Bands: 3 - 7 - 28 - 38
Your device will work with any of the Brazilian carriers including Claro, Nextel, Oi, ON Telecom, SKY Brazil, TIM and VIVO. You won't have any problems. Good luck.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using XDA-Developers mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
But mine is LG-H791F and not LG-H791... The F is not the version of north america?
leuuuuu said:
But mine is LG-H791F and not LG-H791... The F is not the version of north america?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Okay. That's my fault. I overlooked the "F" in your model number. Sorry. Here are the specs for your LG-H791F:
B1 (2100) LTE
B2 (1900 PCS) LTE
B3 (1800 +) LTE
B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1) LTE
B5 (850) LTE
B7 (2600) LTE
B20 (800 DD)
LTEB28 (700 APT) LTE
You device supports LTE bands 3, 7 and 28 which are used by all the Brazilian carriers except SKY Brazil and ON Telecom which use Band 38.
The 3G bands that are supported by your device are as follows:
B1 (2100) UMTS
B2 (1900 PCS) UMTS
B5 (850) UMTS
B8 (900 GSM) UMTS
Now, your device does support all of the Brazilian carriers UMTS 3G & HSPA networks because all of the carriers use Band 1 and Band 5.
Also, you specific device supports all of the 2G networks as well for each carrier. Looks like you are good to go.
H791(F),maybe refer to FDD only model,network goes like
GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900,
UMTS850 (B5), UMTS900 (B8), UMTS1900 (B2), UMTS2100 (B1),
LTE2100 (B1),LTE1800 (B3),LTE1900 (B2), LTE1700/2100 (B4), LTE850 (B5), LTE2600 (B7), LTE800 (B20), LTE700 (B28)
Frequency band allocation of Brazil is same as Europe,Band 3 (1800) Band 7(2600) for most carriers,
And how did you get such an interesting version?Willing sharing a QPST QCN backup for band unlocking?
As the title states, is there a VZW specific radio for the Pixel 2 XL? I have the unlocked international version of the phone.
I've loaded a custom ROM, but the signal strength is poor and data is constantly dropping or switching from 4G > 3G.
CenFlo said:
As the title states, is there a VZW specific radio for the Pixel 2 XL? I have the unlocked international version of the phone.
I've loaded a custom ROM, but the signal strength is poor and data is constantly dropping or switching from 4G > 3G.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Probably has the correct LTE bands for Verizon.
xda member Atelesco posted this here at https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2-xl/help/european-pixel-2-xl-network-t3696261
On the Google Store site for the Pixel 2 it list the same bands for the US version as the GB version:
from the GB site
Channels
World-wide network/mobile compatibility with:1
GSM/EDGE: Quad-band (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+/HSDPA: Bands 1/2/4/5/8
CDMA EVDO Rev A: BC0/BC1/BC10
FDD-LTE : Bands 1*/2*/3*/4*/5/7*/8/12/13/17/20/25/26/28/29/30/32/66*2
TD-LTE: Bands 38*/40/412
Supports up to CAT 15 (800 Mbps DL/75 Mbps UL), 3x DL CA, 4 x 4 MIMO, 256-QAM DL and 64-QAM UL depending on operator support
1Pixel is an unlocked phone and works on major operator networks.
2*Indicates the bands that support 4x4 MIMO
michaelbsheldon said:
Probably has the correct LTE bands for Verizon.
xda member Atelesco posted this here at https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2-xl/help/european-pixel-2-xl-network-t3696261
On the Google Store site for the Pixel 2 it list the same bands for the US version as the GB version:
from the GB site
Channels
World-wide network/mobile compatibility with:1
GSM/EDGE: Quad-band (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+/HSDPA: Bands 1/2/4/5/8
CDMA EVDO Rev A: BC0/BC1/BC10
FDD-LTE : Bands 1*/2*/3*/4*/5/7*/8/12/13/17/20/25/26/28/29/30/32/66*2
TD-LTE: Bands 38*/40/412
Supports up to CAT 15 (800 Mbps DL/75 Mbps UL), 3x DL CA, 4 x 4 MIMO, 256-QAM DL and 64-QAM UL depending on operator support
1Pixel is an unlocked phone and works on major operator networks.
2*Indicates the bands that support 4x4 MIMO
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I did find this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2-xl/how-to/testing-performed-factual-information-t3702662
I've also tried all combo's of network type, but nothing seems to help. My 6P runs on VZW just fine using the "Global" for preferred network type.
There's also a post on one of the ROM threads where VZW peeps are having the same issues. I had to revert back to my 6P as the Pixel was unusable with the signal and data drops.
I'm thinking of buying G7+ Dual Sim, however I'm not sure how you check frequencies etc.
I would like to use it on TMobile in USA and also some network in Poland. Will this model work (LTE): LMG710EAW
From LG Site (specs)
2G Network
850(B5)/ 900(B8)/ 1800(B3)/ 1900(B2) MHz
3G Network
WCDMA 850(B5) / 900(B8) / 1900(B2) / 2100(B1) MHz
TD-SCDMA 1900MHz (B39) / 2000MHz (B34)
4G Network - FDD
2100(B1) / 1800(B3) / 850(B5) / 2600(B7) / 900(B8) / 700(B28) MHz
4G Network - TDD
2600(B38) / 1900(B39) / 2300(B40) / 2600(B41) MHz
TMobile USA
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4988
Can someone please help me figure this out? Will it work in USA?
thanks
shanekm said:
I'm thinking of buying G7+ Dual Sim, however I'm not sure how you check frequencies etc.
I would like to use it on TMobile in USA and also some network in Poland. Will this model work (LTE): LMG710EAW
From LG Site (specs)
2G Network
850(B5)/ 900(B8)/ 1800(B3)/ 1900(B2) MHz
3G Network
WCDMA 850(B5) / 900(B8) / 1900(B2) / 2100(B1) MHz
TD-SCDMA 1900MHz (B39) / 2000MHz (B34)
4G Network - FDD
2100(B1) / 1800(B3) / 850(B5) / 2600(B7) / 900(B8) / 700(B28) MHz
4G Network - TDD
2600(B38) / 1900(B39) / 2300(B40) / 2600(B41) MHz
TMobile USA
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4988
Can someone please help me figure this out? Will it work in USA?
thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ignore the LG site.
It only lists bands which are supported DIRECTLY in that region, not the bands the phone supports via hardware.
Where are you buying the phone from? The seller should list the bands on the phone, but all the bands are printed on the box itself.
The phones also say "GSM only no CDMA" but WCDMA bands even work. I don't know if CDMA or WCDMA are the same thing or not.
Keep in mind ONLY the european version (not the EAW) can be rooted right now.
Here are the bands the EAW version supports:
. GSM: 850.900/1800/1900. WCDMA: 850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100. TD-SDMA: 1900/2000. LTE: B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/B13/B17/B20/B28/B38/B39/B40/B41
Working perfect for me here in Europe.
Falkentyne said:
Ignore the LG site.
It only lists bands which are supported DIRECTLY in that region, not the bands the phone supports via hardware.
Where are you buying the phone from? The seller should list the bands on the phone, but all the bands are printed on the box itself.
The phones also say "GSM only no CDMA" but WCDMA bands even work. I don't know if CDMA or WCDMA are the same thing or not.
Keep in mind ONLY the european version (not the EAW) can be rooted right now.
Here are the bands the EAW version supports:
. GSM: 850.900/1800/1900. WCDMA: 850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100. TD-SDMA: 1900/2000. LTE: B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/B13/B17/B20/B28/B38/B39/B40/B41
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Does this mean it will or will not work in USA TMobile? https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4988
I see that table lists:
1900 MHz (Band 2) 4G LTE
1700/2100 MHz (Band 4 and 66) 4G LTE
850 MHz (Band 5) 4G LTE
700 MHz (Band 12) 4G LTE
600 MHz (Band 71) 4G LTE
How do I match this up with those bands you've listed? It looks like Bands 66 and 71 are not supported by phone. Does that mean it will not work?
thanks
shanekm said:
Does this mean it will or will not work in USA TMobile? https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4988
I see that table lists:
1900 MHz (Band 2) 4G LTE
1700/2100 MHz (Band 4 and 66) 4G LTE
850 MHz (Band 5) 4G LTE
700 MHz (Band 12) 4G LTE
600 MHz (Band 71) 4G LTE
How do I match this up with those bands you've listed? It looks like Bands 66 and 71 are not supported by phone. Does that mean it will not work?
thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I answered this question earlier in your other post. Remember I own this phone on tmobile.
No one uses band 66 or 71 from what i've seen anywhere.
Tmobile uses band 4, 2 in some areas, or 12. At least from what I've seen.
You're overanalyzing things now.
I've tested the bands in the service menu.
Why don't you call t-mobile and ask them if they use a strange band like 66 in your area? I've never heard of that before.
Falkentyne said:
Ignore the LG site.
It only lists bands which are supported DIRECTLY in that region, not the bands the phone supports via hardware.
Where are you buying the phone from? The seller should list the bands on the phone, but all the bands are printed on the box itself.
The phones also say "GSM only no CDMA" but WCDMA bands even work. I don't know if CDMA or WCDMA are the same thing or not.
Keep in mind ONLY the european version (not the EAW) can be rooted right now.
Here are the bands the EAW version supports:
. GSM: 850.900/1800/1900. WCDMA: 850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100. TD-SDMA: 1900/2000. LTE: B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/B13/B17/B20/B28/B38/B39/B40/B41
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Does the LMG710EAW really support both bands 7 and 20? My research turned up that it supported band 7 (2600mhz) but not band 20 (800 mhz) or is this just due to them only listings bands from that region?
I ordered one without maybe doing my due diligence and Vodafone UK for 4G is bands 7 and 20
I have both LMG710EAW and LMG710ULM in hands, LMG710EAW doesn't seem to support B20, as in the parking area I get 4G on ULM but not with EAW.
But it's strange as today I had a look on the original packing of ULM, it's written with B20 support???
Also from LG site, FDD 4G Networks, without B20: 2100(B1) / 1800(B3) / 850(B5) / 2600(B7) / 900(B8) / 700(B28) MHz
https://www.lg.com/hk_en/mobile-phone/lg-LMG710EAW-128GB