What is the best way to root G4, whilst keeping it "friendly" for warranty claims?!?
Hi, forgive me if this thread isn't in the appropriate section.
I have a bit of rooting experience, haven't done much in a few years though, (knowing that there are now several ways to root devices), and have just picked up the G4.
Now I'd like to root the G4, but keep the stock rom, (6.0) and mainly will be just running xposed to edit and muck around with LG's ugly skin. I'd still like to be able to receive OTA updates, (even if the OTA update may remove my root,) as well as hopefully still be fine if I needed to return the device under warren.
I've been reading around and apparently you must unlock the bootloader in order to root for Marshmallow? If i were to still do this, could I keep the stock recovery at least, or if not, would I be able to easily revert to stock with a stock recovery and relock the bootloader?
Apologies for my ignorance, just trying to figure out if I should really be rooting or just chuck on Nova launcher and be happy with LG's offerings. Cheers
Keep it on a stock rom and if yoi have a carrier varient then try to not change the boot logo lol idk just a guess.
Jared_Anderson said:
Hi, forgive me if this thread isn't in the appropriate section.
I have a bit of rooting experience, haven't done much in a few years though, (knowing that there are now several ways to root devices), and have just picked up the G4.
Now I'd like to root the G4, but keep the stock rom, (6.0) and mainly will be just running xposed to edit and muck around with LG's ugly skin. I'd still like to be able to receive OTA updates, (even if the OTA update may remove my root,) as well as hopefully still be fine if I needed to return the device under warren.
I've been reading around and apparently you must unlock the bootloader in order to root for Marshmallow? If i were to still do this, could I keep the stock recovery at least, or if not, would I be able to easily revert to stock with a stock recovery and relock the bootloader?
Apologies for my ignorance, just trying to figure out if I should really be rooting or just chuck on Nova launcher and be happy with LG's offerings. Cheers
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Yes to reflashing stock rom
Yes to relocking the bootloader
So you are clear to make whatever modifications you want, you can always revert safely.
Vseprz said:
Yes to reflashing stock rom
Yes to relocking the bootloader
So you are clear to make whatever modifications you want, you can always revert safely.
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Once your bootloader is unlocked, you cannot relock it. Your device will always show a message saying "Bootloader unlocked" after turned on. Warranty is likely to be declined then. BTW: You have to get your unlock.bin file from lg, agreeing to void your warranty. So, even if you smash your screen and they cannot see the message, lg knows it is out of warranty.
pen² said:
Once your bootloader is unlocked, you cannot relock it. Your device will always show a message saying "Bootloader unlocked" after turned on. Warranty is likely to be declined then. BTW: You have to get your unlock.bin file from lg, agreeing to void your warranty. So, even if you smash your screen and they cannot see the message, lg knows it is out of warranty.
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Since when do you have to get the unlock.bin? We unlock from fastboot. Have you confirmed by trying to relock from fastboot? I read otherwise from another thread.
Furthermore, a quick search around indicates people who have unlocked and rooted have had their warranty honored despite software changes.
Vseprz said:
Since when do you have to get the unlock.bin? We unlock from fastboot. Have you confirmed by trying to relock from fastboot? I read otherwise from another thread.
Furthermore, a quick search around indicates people who have unlocked and rooted have had their warranty honored despite software changes.
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Unlock from fastboot is only possible after flashing said unlock.bin file, which can only be obtained by lg and is unique for each device. Furthermore, I had an unlocked, bootlooping h815 and lg refused warranty to me (in Germany). Got my phone replaced by my vendor on eu law which only applies if the defect strikes in the first six months.
So, while some people are lucky to have their phone repaired despite an unlocked bootloader, I'm really happy for them, but lg is not bound to repair it on warranty
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Unlock from fastboot is only possible after flashing said unlock.bin file, which can only be obtained by lg and is unique for each device. Furthermore, I had an unlocked, bootlooping h815 and lg refused warranty to me (in Germany). Got my phone replaced by my vendor on eu law which only applies if the defect strikes in the first six months.
So, while some people are lucky to have their phone repaired despite an unlocked bootloader, I'm really happy for them, but lg is not bound to repair it on warranty
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Ah I see. You have a h815. I have a h811. Our process differs there.
Hmmm, thanks for the info guys. Its not from a carrier, i bought it outright. Seems like i might just have to keep it stock, its not too bad as is, guess ill just have to live with it. Thanks for the help though.
Jared_Anderson said:
Hmmm, thanks for the info guys. Its not from a carrier, i bought it outright. Seems like i might just have to keep it stock, its not too bad as is, guess ill just have to live with it. Thanks for the help though.
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At least you can root with locked bootloader
Not under marshmallow
You can do none of things you listed keeping it stock. First of all google change policy and in marshmallow you need to flash modified boot.img in order to flash custom recovery and/or to root it. As you know the bootloader has to be unlocked but there is no way to relock it. So sorry, but impossible.
People need to understand a simple thing.
You either mod your device and lose warranty or you keep it stock.
It's that simple. People worried about warranties and ota updates are on the wrong site.
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Curious.....and I didn't see a thread about why some folks do so
none. its the same thing, just have it relocked when u send it in for warranty purposes + on stock
Like zephiK said: none. There is absolutely zero benefit to relocking the bootloader. On the contrary, there are many disadvantages:
if you ever have to unlock again, it will wipe your data
you cannot use most fastboot commands, which means that, unless you have root, you cannot flash radios, ROMs, backup your data, etc...
People relock their bootloader because, in my opinion, they are not very knowledgeable about how Nexus devices work, and have it in their head that, to be fully stock and receive/install OTA updates, you need to have a locked bootloader. Certainly not the case.
There was a guy on here who wanted to return his phone back to stock for warranty. His USB was broken. He could return everything to stock through the phone, except for locking the bootloader. If it was already locked, the problem wouldn't be there...
Not a good enough reason for me, but it could be a factor in your decision...
danger-rat said:
There was a guy on here who wanted to return his phone back to stock for warranty. His USB was broken. He could return everything to stock through the phone, except for locking the bootloader. If it was already locked, the problem wouldn't be there...
Not a good enough reason for me, but it could be a factor in your decision...
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Well in order to change anything he had to unlock the bootloader so...
danger-rat said:
There was a guy on here who wanted to return his phone back to stock for warranty. His USB was broken. He could return everything to stock through the phone, except for locking the bootloader. If it was already locked, the problem wouldn't be there...
Not a good enough reason for me, but it could be a factor in your decision...
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I still don't know if I believe that Samsung will not honor the warranty because the bootloader is unlocked, particularly on a device with a re-lockable bootloader.
As we know, HTC honored the warranty on the Nexus One, even though with an unlocked bootloader.
efrant said:
I still don't know if I believe that Samsung will not honor the warranty because the bootloader is unlocked, particularly on a device with a re-lockable bootloader.
As we know, HTC honored the warranty on the Nexus One, even though with an unlocked bootloader.
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it's not so much the OEM, its more of the carrier.
vzw will not honor anything if the bootloader is unlocked.
Like I said, it's not a factor for me. I unlocked with about 10 minutes of my first full charge, and don't see any value switching back. Everyone is different though, so I thought I would just share this detail, no matter how trivial...
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Well in order to change anything he had to unlock the bootloader so...
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Not really. You can flash a stock ROM and via ROM Manager - you just can't lock the bootloader...
Hey guys,
I'm sorry if this has been asked before - I did a search around but found nothing, surprisingly. Question is, if I flash my HTC One X (which is currently stock and on a plan with Vodafone, so full of 'bloatware' and 'outdated' builds) with the 'universal' (unlocked?) stock ROM will my original warranty be voided? My main reasons for wanting to do this is remove a few unnecessary apps that Vodafone include and make sure I'm receiving the latest OTA updates straight from HTC. Obviously I can continue to wait for the updates and turn a blind eye to the 'crapware', but if I'm able to flash the official stock ROM straight from HTC then I'd much rather do that, just need to make sure no warranty issues will arise as I'd hate to have such a beautiful device collecting dust because I was too impatient or ignorant to check beforehand.
Thanks for any suggestions or help,
DJ GLiTCH
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If you are going to flash any ROM (including stock) you will need to unlock your bootloader first (via HTC dev) and install CWM Recovery. The act of unlocking you bootloader voids your warranty. They keep a note of all of the phones that they have unlocked. You may still be covered for physical defects (although maybe not) and you definitely won't be covered for anything software related.
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If you are going to flash any ROM (including stock) you will need to unlock your bootloader first (via HTC dev) and install CWM Recovery. The act of unlocking you bootloader voids your warranty. They keep a note of all of the phones that they have unlocked. You may still be covered for physical defects (although maybe not) and you definitely won't be covered for anything software related.
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Not technically true.
HTC clearly state that unlocking your bootloader *may* void *certain* parts of your warranty. In other words if you screw up your phone as a result of flashing roms then your on your own. If your phone develops a fault then it's covered.
HTC can't possibly keep a note of what phones have been unlocked. How can they? When you go through HTCDev.com you get sent the unlock file which you then have to flash. Only because HTC sent you this file it does not mean that you have flashed it - you may have changed your mind afterwards.
Once you unlock your bootloader and flash a custom rom you can choose you revert back to Stock by relocking then flashing the Vodafone branded RUU file. Providing you don't balls up your phone during this process your entire warranty will remain intact, including software issues.
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Not technically true.
HTC clearly state that unlocking your bootloader *may* void *certain* parts of your warranty. In other words if you screw up your phone as a result of flashing roms then your on your own. If your phone develops a fault then it's covered.
HTC can't possibly keep a note of what phones have been unlocked. How can they? When you go through HTCDev.com you get sent the unlock file which you then have to flash. Only because HTC sent you this file it does not mean that you have flashed it - you may have changed your mind afterwards.
Once you unlock your bootloader and flash a custom rom you can choose you revert back to Stock by relocking then flashing the Vodafone branded RUU file. Providing you don't balls up your phone during this process your entire warranty will remain intact, including software issues.
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If you unlock and afterwards relock the bootloader again, in fastboot mode it says bootloader RELOCKED and not LOCKED. That`s how they see it.
I spoke to Vodafone Australia and they assured me that the act of unlocking alone does NOT void your warranty, however once you make a modification, warranty is gone. So yes, flashing another Rom will void warranty
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dr9722 said:
Not technically true.
HTC clearly state that unlocking your bootloader *may* void *certain* parts of your warranty. In other words if you screw up your phone as a result of flashing roms then your on your own. If your phone develops a fault then it's covered.
HTC can't possibly keep a note of what phones have been unlocked. How can they? When you go through HTCDev.com you get sent the unlock file which you then have to flash. Only because HTC sent you this file it does not mean that you have flashed it - you may have changed your mind afterwards.
Once you unlock your bootloader and flash a custom rom you can choose you revert back to Stock by relocking then flashing the Vodafone branded RUU file. Providing you don't balls up your phone during this process your entire warranty will remain intact, including software issues.
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Actually, as pointed out by Gee2012 above, the bootloader says Relocked if you lock it again - so it is fairly obvious. This is irrelevant anyway as they have your phone imei number which is most probably what they use - they aren't stupid!
And from what I have been reading - HTC are being funny when people are trying to claim on warranty even if it is a physical defect that you have, once you have unlocked your bootloader. See here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631610
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Actually, as pointed out by Gee2012 above, the bootloader says Relocked if you lock it again - so it is fairly obvious. This is irrelevant anyway as they have your phone imei number which is most probably what they use - they aren't stupid!
And from what I have been reading - HTC are being funny when people are trying to claim on warranty even if it is a physical defect that you have, once you have unlocked your bootloader. See here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631610
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Yes I know it says relocked but HTC arnt keeping a "note" as such at the point of unlocking via HTCDev.
I sent my HOX back due to dust under the screen with the bootloader relocked and I received it back good as new (still unlocked).
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Yes I know it says relocked but HTC arnt keeping a "note" as such at the point of unlocking via HTCDev.
I sent my HOX back due to dust under the screen with the bootloader relocked and I received it back good as new (still unlocked).
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They gave your phone back due to a hardware issue - fair enough. But if you went back for example with poor signal quality, even if you have flashed your original RUU, I very much doubt they would consider that under warranty anymore. They know you have unlocked the bootloader and tinkered with the software (even tho you are now back on stock). Have a lock at the link that i posted - it seems to be pretty murky water!
I also think that it also varies from servicecenter to servicecenter how they cope with this procedure or protocol. Some are more strict than others. I once took a bricked I9000 (due to a bad flash) to Dynafix and they repaired it under warranty!
It was running a custom rom and kerrnel.
Thank you all very much for your responses. I'm sorry for the delay, but for some reason never received any email notifications of replies.
I understand that flashing 'may' void warranty, depending on how far you go with the whole unlocking the bootloader and custom roms, but my concern is with flashing a non-carrier orientated stock rom. Such that I can revive updates quickly and OTA without needing the delay of Vodafone and the like, as well as removing all of their 'useful apps' they include inside their roms which I cannot remove.
Not trying to go off topic here either, but I come from a Samsung background (upgraded from the original Galaxy S) and was just wondering if the flashing process is similar? Like I'm guessing there is no odin for HTC, but clockwork mod and the rest are still around, correct? Not after instructions, just curious, as I'm trying to avoid losing my warranty and would likely only flash stock roms (for the time being at least, until I cave in). Cheers.
According to Vodafone, you will lose your warranty regardless of what you flash whether its stock based or not. They also said that simply rooting voids it as well.
However you might be able to flash the stock RUU for voda which may cover your tracks. I'm not 100% though.
As for flashing, Im still stock at the moment but from what I gather it is the same with respect to clockworkmod recovery and what not. But just double check any OPs before you start though lol
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Hi guys, i have a question, i want to return my phone for warranty and i've read this thread that if your bootloader is showing 'relocked' you cannot return the device for warranty.
I am here to ask if there is a way to make the bootloader show 'locked' bootloader instead of 'relocked'?
it would be GREATLY appreciated if you could help me. thanks!
for those who want to relock their bootloader can follow the instructions here
There is no way to do that ATM.
If the problem is the hardware issue, HTC should honor the warranty.
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There is no way to do that ATM.
If the problem is the hardware issue, HTC should honor the warranty.
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actually i'm looking to sell the phone, the phone have no issues whatsoever, but if the person i sell to wants to claim warranty, it may be an issue.
Not possible. When you got your unlock bin from HTC, it logged the device info. There gonna know right away it was tampered with.
rayford85 said:
Not possible. When you got your unlock bin from HTC, it logged the device info. There gonna know right away it was tampered with.
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so that means there is no option to claim warranty unless i pay for the 'fines' or charges that incur to repair my device?
zincsnow said:
so that means there is no option to claim warranty unless i pay for the 'fines' or charges that incur to repair my device?
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Correct. From what I've read, unlocking voids the warranty instantly (even tho htcdev says it "could" void your warranty) So any repairs are gonna cost you.
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I saw this
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OK.. while trying to re-flash my phone after messing up, I tried to re-lock (fastboot oem lock) and it put up 3 messages, 1 succeed, 2 failed, on reboot of phone it read locked.
Yes!! Locked not re-locked ! I forgot I had not flashed stock recovery ! So triued to unlock, it worked but I could not flash stock recovery, failed, but I could re-lock with same LOCKED message, if I then went from HBoot to Fastboot I got a new menu SECURITY .. bellow locked a message SECURITY WARNING, if I select SECURITY menu then I get a new screen , KEYCARD failed, and reboots.
Anyway the LOCKED was enough to get the phone swapped as its two weeks old, any way after charging and attempting RUU again it locked on black HTC screen most times it booted.
Still maybe this menu holds a key to S-OFF, and maybe the relock failing can be replicated, it seems to have sent only 1 of 3 parts if the file across, so if you phone is bricked maybe you can give it a shot for htc service cover by part re-locking in some way.
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and was hoping we could make some headway on it.
I noticed you are on Vodafone Australia.
I spoke to multiple stores and service reps and each of them said the same thing, that merely unlocking the bootloader will not void your warranty with them assuming a hardware fault. They even allowing discussion of bootloader unlocking in their community forum.
They did say however that flashing custom roms and rooting will void your warranty as per usual and any damage caused as a result of overclocking or messing with voltages etc is not covered.
I don't know if that is any help, but they seem pretty good about it so long as you didnt cause any actual damage yourself
kylec said:
I noticed you are on Vodafone Australia.
I spoke to multiple stores and service reps and each of them said the same thing, that merely unlocking the bootloader will not void your warranty with them assuming a hardware fault. They even allowing discussion of bootloader unlocking in their community forum.
They did say however that flashing custom roms and rooting will void your warranty as per usual and any damage caused as a result of overclocking or messing with voltages etc is not covered.
I don't know if that is any help, but they seem pretty good about it so long as you didnt cause any actual damage yourself
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Unfortunately I bought it outright from All phones. Don't think they'll accept it. but never mind anymore, I sold my HTC one x. I put up a *phone has boot loader unlocked* note on the ad
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I unlocked my bootloader several months ago, but now my SIM card readers (both of them) have gone out. I have no idea how, no water damage or anything like that has happened. They just stopped working. So I went complete stock firmware, locked bootloader, everything but I am still unable to take OTA updates like a new phone would be able to. I think this is because they banned my device from OTAs which I believe they do if you have messed with the device. I need to RMA my device so my question is would it be better to say that I didn't tamper with the device and run the risk of them finding out I did, which is pretty likely seeing as how my device has been banned from OTA updates, or tell them that I did unlock it and all of that but that I have relocked it and I am back to stock? If any of you have had a similar issue how did ASUS handle that? Thanks!
E3AANG11E3 said:
I unlocked my bootloader several months ago, but now my SIM card readers (both of them) have gone out. I have no idea how, no water damage or anything like that has happened. They just stopped working. So I went complete stock firmware, locked bootloader, and all of that but that I have relocked it.
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How to you relock bootloader?
mr_gourav2000 said:
How to you relock bootloader?
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Since I am a new user I cannot post links. But Google "Zenfone 2 bootloader unlock" and I followed the instructions of Grekky's Blog.
there is no such thing as relocking the bootloader. only thing you can do it flash the stock image to make it look stock (since an unlocked bootloader has a white splash screen) but im sure asus knows of this and will still check and see that the bootloader is indeed unlocked and not warranty it.
This is just something we all accepted as a consequence of unlocking our bootloaders. hell i have a screen thats getting worse and worse with a yellow/brownish line coming from the top of the phone, but alas i have an unlocked phone too.
You can replace the white splash screen by flashing a black splash screen image to try and cover up unlocking your bootloader. http://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone2/themes-apps/551-black-white-splashscreen-twrp-flash-t3141945 . If the reseller has no clue about custom recoveries and trying to flash a rom you'll be safe.
They fixed it, no questions asked. And yes, I was able to relock the bootloader.
Ok, I tried about every method and every stock rom I found on the net in order to relock the bootloader for my XT1922-3. And whenever I try to lock or unlock the bootloader I get the message "invalid boot state" and the next line read "OKAY". The bootloader remains unlocked. Bootloader shows "flashing_unlocked". Please, can anybody help me? I really don't know what else to do.
There's no point in relocking it plain and simple that's why you haven't found anything about it. Even if you do relock it for the purposes of trying to trick Moto it literally tells them in the logcats it's been bootloader unlocked. Also once you request the key and use it it voids the warranty which Moto also knows about. If your trying to sell it just be honest and tell the person it's bootloader unlocked but it doesn't effect the phones performance
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There's no point in relocking it plain and simple that's why you haven't found anything about it. Even if you do relock it for the purposes of trying to trick Moto it literally tells them in the logcats it's been bootloader unlocked. Also once you request the key and use it it voids the warranty which Moto also knows about. If your trying to sell it just be honest and tell the person it's bootloader unlocked but it doesn't effect the phones performance
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I was just worried that something has gone wrong while unlocking. Thanks for the reply!
It should be possible to re-lock it like this (connect to PC in (stock) recovery mode --> fastboot oem lock begin --> flash stock ROM --> fastboot oem lock).
Also according to Motorola.
However it doesn't work on my device (XT1922-3). It returns confirmation messages with no single error, but it seems to ignore the command as the bootloader is still unlocked and still allows flashing other ROMS. I haven't seen anyone who succeeded in re-locking their Moto G6, except this person, although the same method is used.
General info:
- Motorola claims that just requesting an unlock code already voids the warranty (boooh!), except for the so called "Developer Editions". This however is a false statement if you bought your device in Europe, even if your bootloader is unlocked and have a custom ROM installed (they are required to follow the EU directives which means they can only withdraw the warranty on this basis when they can proof that the damage is caused by the custom software). I don't know about other regions.
- When unlocking a Motorola-device, it will be permanently detectible that it has been unlocked, even if you re-lock it afterwards. I've read that they use eFuses for this (clearing a value (possibly outside the partitions) or in some cases physically burn a small fuse). For restoring an eFuse you would need to know its initial value and set it again (generally not possible through known interfaces like USB,...).
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It should be possible to re-lock it like this (connect to PC in (stock) recovery mode --> fastboot oem lock begin --> flash stock ROM --> fastboot oem lock).
Also according to Motorola.
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Motorola doesn't even provide stock images for the XT1922 on their unlock support page. I assume they simply don't want users to relock their devices
However it doesn't work on my device (XT1922-3). It returns confirmation messages with no single error, but it seems to ignore the command as the bootloader is still unlocked and still allows flashing other ROMS. I haven't seen anyone who succeeded in re-locking their Moto G6, except this person, although the same method is used.
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So, giving the person making that statement the benefit of the doubt, s/he probably didn't unlock an XT1922-3.
General info:
- Motorola claims that just requesting an unlock code already voids the warranty (boooh!), except for the so called "Developer Editions". This however is a false statement if you bought your device in Europe, even if your bootloader is unlocked and have a custom ROM installed (they are required to follow the EU directives which means they can only withdraw the warranty on this basis when they can proof that the damage is caused by the custom software). I don't know about other regions.
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This. And there are people saying the EU is a bad thing in general
- When unlocking a Motorola-device, it will be permanently detectible that it has been unlocked, even if you re-lock it afterwards. I've read that they use eFuses for this (clearing a value (possibly outside the partitions) or in some cases physically burn a small fuse). For restoring an eFuse you would need to know its initial value and set it again (generally not possible through known interfaces like USB,...).
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Yup, Motorola, help users void their warranties outside the EU by not letting them relock again. Way to go, guys and gals
Thanks for the insightful post, FeeMale, much appreciated :good:
Atyth said:
Motorola doesn't even provide stock images for the XT1922 on their unlock support page. I assume they simply don't want users to relock their devices
So, giving the person making that statement the benefit of the doubt, s/he probably didn't unlock an XT1922-3.
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This. And there are people saying the EU is a bad thing in general
Yup, Motorola, help users void their warranties outside the EU by not letting them relock again. Way to go, guys and gals
Thanks for the insightful post, FeeMale, much appreciated :good:
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What? Why would they let you "re do" your warranty, when they tell you it's void as soon as you request an unlock code ? You can do all manner of stupid crap to brick your phone with an unlocked bootloader.
It allows you to try to flash the wrong firmware, to downgrade sensitive partitions (bootloader, gpt, etc) which would bork security updates and all manner of crap as well as bricking.
And they should allow you to re-lock and indiscriminately let you just warranty and rma your stupid mistakes?
We all wish they would but...
You know the risk when you unlock. They clearly tell you on Motorola's web site, as well as all posts on XDA that show you how to unlock your bootloader.
And you think you got cheated somehow? Geez.
Follow their rules if you want your warranty. End of story.
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What? Why would they let you "re do" your warranty, when they tell you it's void as soon as you request an unlock code ?
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Did someone mentioned they should do this? (Re/un)locking the bootloader and warranty are two different things.
You can do all manner of stupid crap to brick your phone with an unlocked bootloader.
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Reality is that in 99%+ of the cases bricking a phone is done by dropping it in water or on hard surfaces,....
It allows you to try to flash the wrong firmware, to downgrade sensitive partitions (bootloader, gpt, etc) which would bork security updates and all manner of crap as well as bricking.
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In reality mostly the opposit happens. Many users with stock ROM and locked bootloaders are exposed to potential security risks, because they're not getting updates anymore after a while, or none at all (Motorola = 2 years). An unlocked bootloader and optionally a custom ROM can solve this.
And they should allow you to re-lock and indiscriminately let you just warranty and rma your stupid mistakes?
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As said before: a faulty screen, mic, button, speaker, mainboard,... has generally nothing to do with an unlocked bootloader.
We all wish they would but...
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It's not a wish anymore where I live. Off course, as said before: in the case the custom software broke your phone, you cannot make use of your warranty. I don't think anyone disagreed on that?
You know the risk when you unlock. They clearly tell you on Motorola's web site, as well as all posts on XDA that show you how to unlock your bootloader.
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Motorola smartphones are quite unique in this matter. My other phone didn't had a locked bootloader by default. I'm more secure with the latest Lineage OS than the older stock ROM. And this doesn't void warranty, even if bought in the US. Laptops/PCs all have unlocked bootloaders. Using custom software shouldn't void warranty. It's not so strange…
And you think you got cheated somehow? Geez.
Follow their rules if you want your warranty. End of story.
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This is your advice/opinion. Everyone is free to have different ones
FeeMale said:
Did someone mentioned they should do this? (Re/un)locking the bootloader and warranty are two different things.
It's not a wish anymore where I live. Off course, as said before: in the case the custom software broke your phone, you cannot make use of your warranty. I don't think anyone disagreed on that?
Motorola smartphones are quite unique in this matter. My other phone didn't had a locked bootloader by default. I'm more secure with the latest Lineage OS than the older stock ROM. And this doesn't void warranty, even if bought in the US. Laptops/PCs all have unlocked bootloaders. Using custom software shouldn't void warranty. It's not so strange…
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Yup, fortunately for us, here in the EU consumers still have rights. Motorola can put whatever they want in their policies, but these don't trump our rights. IMO it's a strange - even dangerous - statement that anyone needs to agree to the biddings of a private company to keep their warranty. This warranty is granted us by LAW. Why would anyone argue in the favour of a large private enterprise anyway? We need to be protected from them, not the other way around.
Atyth said:
Yup, fortunately for us, here in the EU consumers still have rights. Motorola can put whatever they want in their policies, but these don't trump our rights. IMO it's a strange - even dangerous - statement that anyone needs to agree to the biddings of a private company to keep their warranty. This warranty is granted us by LAW. Why would anyone argue in the favour of a large private enterprise anyway? We need to be protected from them, not the other way around.
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It's the same in the US. It falls under the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act of 1975, which was ruled to apply to smart phones in 2015 by the FTC. We can run 3rd party software all day long and it doesn't void the warranty. You root and the headphone jack craps out? It's covered. You root, run an overclocked kernel and burn up the cpu? Then they'd have to prove that whatever you did, broke the phone in order to void the warranty. If they can't, they gotta replace it. They won't even look into it at that rate. It isn't worth the cost of litigation. It's cheaper to just send you a new one.