Hi guys,
should I repair my broken display (I would do it myself so the cost will be way lower than buying a new phone) or should I buy the Moto E 2nd Gen LTE? I ask because I want to know if I should go with the new AMRv8 to have the (claimed) benefits of the new SoC and Marshmallow or if I'd still benefit from Marshmallow's new features like better battery life etc with the old AMRv7 and a 32-bit CPU.
I know the Z1c will probably never get an official Marshmallow update. I'd just use a custom ROM.
If I should go with the repair, is there any way to be certain I purchased a genuine Sorry display (no matter what the seller claims it to be)?
Last summer I broke my Z1c display, and I picked Chinese fake one. It was 25€ posted. The display is not genuine, and even had one dead pixel out of the box (very hard to find it, not seen when you use the phone). It works well, and I'm 100% satisfied.
The Snapdragon 410 will never be in the same league with the 800 performance wise. You're also trading 2 GB of RAM for 1 GB, 20 MP for 5 MP and 4K recording for 720p. You see the pattern?
If you want the Moto E as a second phone, yes sure that is OK, but swaping the Z1C for that... never!
templeka said:
The Snapdragon 410 will never be in the same league with the 800 performance wise. You're also trading 2 GB of RAM for 1 GB, 20 MP for 5 MP and 4K recording for 720p. You see the pattern?
If you want the Moto E as a second phone, yes sure that is OK, but swaping the Z1C for that... never!
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Yes, you are totally right. I am very well aware of that. That's why I'm still uncertain
I just received an answer to my other question and it states that the Moto E will never run on 64-bit because of the RAM size. Wouldn't make sense.
But I'm still wondering if it is not better to have an ARMv8 phone instead of ARMv7 because of features like better battery management and therefore longer battery life etc. Or will I experience these features with ARMv7 running Marshmallow as well?
If you're not interested in a phone that has all the above I wrote, sure, the Moto E does have a better battery life looking at the review on gsmarena but not by much (browsing battery life is same). I really don't know why you would want to get the Moto E though. Just the newer Android experience and a bit more battery wouldn't be a decisive factor for me considering all the downsides.
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If you're not interested in a phone that has all the above I wrote, sure, the Moto E does have a better battery life looking at the review on gsmarena but not by much (browsing battery life is same). I really don't know why you would want to get the Moto E though. Just the newer Android experience and a bit more battery wouldn't be a decisive factor for me considering all the downsides.
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Well, that's why I'm asking
If the new features aren't all that better I'll stick with my Z1c
Well that's your decision to make. Balance the pros and cons and decide what you want.
I already gave you my opinion on the matter. As I said before I don't see any big pros for the Moto but that's just my opinion. Don't think I can help you any more. The rest is up to you. :fingers-crossed:
I have used both devices.The Z1 Compact is simply on another level...Much better in everything (including better screen,camera,CPU,GPU,build quality) and it's waterproof.
Why a low-spec Moto E? Why not a Z3C or Z5C?
Are you stupid? When you'll go to Moto G from z1c u'll be shocked. Moto G is a low spec smartphone and may be laggy. But z1c is still one of the best phones, you know he was released in 2014 and in this year is very popular high-end phone.
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CmDaRkShAdOw said:
Are you stupid? When you'll go to Moto G from z1c u'll be shocked. Moto G is a low spec smartphone and may be laggy. But z1c is still one of the best phones, you know he was released in 2014 and in this year is very popular high-end phone.
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Watch your tongue, dickhead.
templeka said:
Well that's your decision to make. Balance the pros and cons and decide what you want.
I already gave you my opinion on the matter. As I said before I don't see any big pros for the Moto but that's just my opinion. Don't think I can help you any more. The rest is up to you. :fingers-crossed:
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You did help me a great deal :good:
My problem was that I didn't know if maybe the feature of ARM8 outrank the ones in ARM7. As it appears they don't.
I'll stick with my Z1c then. Thanks
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Why a low-spec Moto E? Why not a Z3C or Z5C?
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Well, why don't we think about this for a second? Why would anybody go for a low-spec Moto instead of Z3c or Z5c?
Could it be because he can't afford a Z3c or Z5c? Hm?
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Well, why don't we think about this for a second? Why would anybody go for a low-spec Moto instead of Z3c or Z5c?
Could it be because he can't afford a Z3c or Z5c? Hm?
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You're touchy.
@razzledazzle83 i wanna tell u something.. fu*k you. I only told you what I think about your decision.
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I understand you. And would be kinda though decision, on one hand, chinese digitizers and displays are often big degradation, bad display quality, random phantom touches and so on, on other hand, you would have new phone but much less capable. Personaly, I would maybe repair Z1c and sold it, and bought myself something different.
Anyway, good luck with decision, whatever you choose.
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@razzledazzle83 i wanna tell u something.. fu*k you. I only told you what I think about your decision.
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Telling someone that he is stupid is your way of telling someone your opinion? Go f*ck yourself, you polish c unt.
dusan92 said:
I understand you. And would be kinda though decision, on one hand, chinese digitizers and displays are often big degradation, bad display quality, random phantom touches and so on, on other hand, you would have new phone but much less capable. Personaly, I would maybe repair Z1c and sold it, and bought myself something different.
Anyway, good luck with decision, whatever you choose.
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Thanks. I chose to give it a chance and bought a spare part. Turned out it was an AUO manufactured part instead the JDI one shown in the pictures although I specifically asked about exactly this beforehand. But well, they agreed to a partial refund. It is not Sony branded since the touch screen is OEM, same quality just not Sony branded. Cost me about 38 € and I can't see any difference to the original display at all. I'm pretty satisfied
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Thanks. I chose to give it a chance and bought a spare part. Turned out it was an AUO manufactured part instead the JDI one shown in the pictures although I specifically asked about exactly this beforehand. But well, they agreed to a partial refund. It is not Sony branded since the touch screen is OEM, same quality just not Sony branded. Cost me about 38 € and I can't see any difference to the original display at all. I'm pretty satisfied
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I'm glad it worked out well. It's only important it works well and you are satisfied. Maybe you can leave link where you bought it. Cheers.
http://www.parts4repair.com/complete-screen-assembly-oem-for-sony-xperia-z1-compact-mini/
Bought it here. Very reasonable prices and shipping costs. Seller seems to be trustworthy.
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hey guyz,
As i am going to buy this phone next week so i am having some questions running around my head
like what are the key features and problems/issues of this phone?
I have seen some pretty good reviews of this phone on google and youtube but still wanted myself to be sure about this phone
1)is the yellow screen problem present in all xperia s?
2)what is the video playback support of this phone? (720 or 1080)
3)is there any force close or camera not responding problem with this phone?
4)i have seen many xperia phones with warm glow problem in portraits with camera.any chance of this happening in xperia s?
5)wifi or network signal drop issue?
any help will be appreciated
or any other phone that you can suggest
thanks guyz
1) i dont think so, i havent had any Problems regarding yellow tint
2) wow i dont really Know.. The screen is Not 1080 p as it doesnt have 1900x1200 (or 1080 i dunno) like the z
3) the camera is actually pretty quick and stable, but it will be even faster in JB Update. In the dark the camera is Not that good but flashing a cybershot mod or the Xperia v camera will almost fox this issue..
4) havent had that Problem
5) nope none at All. WiFi is a Bit worse than on my old iPhone 4(im ashamed) but still good
Hope i could help you But if i may ask, why buy an XS? Just take a Bit more money And buy a t or something
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Radixtrator said:
1) i dont think so, i havent had any Problems regarding yellow tint
2) wow i dont really Know.. The screen is Not 1080 p as it doesnt have 1900x1200 (or 1080 i dunno) like the z
3) the camera is actually pretty quick and stable, but it will be even faster in JB Update. In the dark the camera is Not that good but flashing a cybershot mod or the Xperia v camera will almost fox this issue..
4) havent had that Problem
5) nope none at All. WiFi is a Bit worse than on my old iPhone 4(im ashamed) but still good
Hope i could help you But if i may ask, why buy an XS? Just take a Bit more money And buy a t or something
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thanks for your reply
i have seen xperia t although it has 720p screen and high ppi it looks even worse that my current phone(xperia sola)
which samsung phone do you suggest?
HunainKhalid said:
hey guyz,
As i am going to buy this phone next week so i am having some questions running around my head
like what are the key features and problems/issues of this phone?
I have seen some pretty good reviews of this phone on google and youtube but still wanted myself to be sure about this phone
1)is the yellow screen problem present in all xperia s?
2)what is the video playback support of this phone? (720 or 1080)
3)is there any force close or camera not responding problem with this phone?
4)i have seen many xperia phones with warm glow problem in portraits with camera.any chance of this happening in xperia s?
5)wifi or network signal drop issue?
any help will be appreciated
or any other phone that you can suggest
thanks guyz
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1) No yellow tints since Week 16 (that means since May 2011)
2) Supports 1080p with most codecs with full speed, maybe a bit of lag with some.
3) I don't have any
4) Warm Glow Camera?
5) My networks drops a bit too much, but it must be my carrier. it sucks.
Felimenta97 said:
1) No yellow tints since Week 16 (that means since May 2011)
2) Supports 1080p with most codecs with full speed, maybe a bit of lag with some.
3) I don't have any
4) Warm Glow Camera?
5) My networks drops a bit too much, but it must be my carrier. it sucks.
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+1 thanks for the reply
i have seen some sony phones camera that give warm glow to the skin in portraits like camera in xperia p,sola etc
i am asking is this problem present in xperia s or not?
HunainKhalid said:
+1 thanks for the reply
i have seen some sony phones camera that give warm glow to the skin in portraits like camera in xperia p,sola etc
i am asking is this problem present in xperia s or not?
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Not aware of that. My images look good. no tint issues.
Which Samsung phone i would suggest? hm Thats easy: none.
Why buy a samsung phone? The Tablet might be pretty good but the phones are really ugly, made of cheap plastic and overpriced. If you dont want to spend a lot of money go for T or S. If you have a bit more to spare why not the Z or SP?
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Which Samsung phone i would suggest? hm Thats easy: none.
Why buy a samsung phone? The Tablet might be pretty good but the phones are really ugly, made of cheap plastic and overpriced. If you dont want to spend a lot of money go for T or S. If you have a bit more to spare why not the Z or SP?
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Well said :thumbup:
Sony's UI is awesome and better than TouchWiz.
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A few things you should be aware of:
The battery is NOT exchangeable,
There is NO µSD-Slot, so you only have the internal 32GB (ca. 28GB usable).
I own this phone now for 2 months, and i'm absolutely satisfied.
Actually there is no better phone available for the price of about 300,- € (about 350 - 400 $)
The Screen is very bright and crystal clear, like it.
Never had the illumination switched on, because then the display is so bright, worried of becoming blind
One last thing on playing videos:
Depending on the videoplayer (i use vlc) the phone CAN play 1080p videos (downsampled of course), because
the display is (only) HDready: 1.280x720p,
which is imho far enough for a handy display atm.
Compared the Screen with Sa****g S4 in the last days, using a hi-res photo ([email protected]), and saw no really big difference.
leine0104 said:
A few things you should be aware of:
The battery is NOT exchangeable,
There is NO µSD-Slot, so you only have the internal 32GB (ca. 28GB usable).
I own this phone now for 2 months, and i'm absolutely satisfied.
Actually there is no better phone available for the price of about 300,- € (about 350 - 400 $)
The Screen is very bright and crystal clear, like it.
Never had the illumination switched on, because then the display is so bright, worried of becoming blind
One last thing on playing videos:
Depending on the videoplayer (i use vlc) the phone CAN play 1080p videos (downsampled of course), because
the display is (only) HDready: 1.280x720p,
which is imho far enough for a handy display atm.
Compared the Screen with Sa****g S4 in the last days, using a hi-res photo ([email protected]), and saw no really big difference.
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:thumbup: thanks for the reply
Radixtrator said:
Which Samsung phone i would suggest? hm Thats easy: none.
Why buy a samsung phone? The Tablet might be pretty good but the phones are really ugly, made of cheap plastic and overpriced. If you dont want to spend a lot of money go for T or S. If you have a bit more to spare why not the Z or SP?
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xperia z here costs same as galaxy s4 (near about 650$) and xperia t price is the same as xperia s but the screen of xperia t is really worse
will go for xperia s
thanks for the reply
Yeas the screen is pretty much the same but dont forget Xperia T screen is bigger
I wish you a lot of fun with your new phone Dont forget to update to Jelly bean in the next couple of days(hopefully)
Radixtrator said:
Yeas the screen is pretty much the same but dont forget Xperia T screen is bigger
I wish you a lot of fun with your new phone Dont forget to update to Jelly bean in the next couple of days(hopefully)
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+1 thanks
i know the screens of xperia t and s are same both 720p but dont know why when i saw the xperia t the only thing that disappointed me was its screen it was not good at all even worse than my previous phone (xperia sola)
yeah my fiance recently got a TL...not sure if that has the same LCD as the T, but its a pretty noticeable difference over my Ion (which i think is similar to the S, but that is an xperia i've never seen in person). I was surprised that its so different, especially for video playback. I'm not saying it is terrible, but no matter the brightness setting, the contrast levels are completely different.
I know i've read that the Ion has one of the better screens...just didn't really notice how good it was until i compared it to an 'updated' version. kind of defeats the purpose imo...
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yeah my fiance recently got a TL...not sure if that has the same LCD as the T, but its a pretty noticeable difference over my Ion (which i think is similar to the S, but that is an xperia i've never seen in person). I was surprised that its so different, especially for video playback. I'm not saying it is terrible, but no matter the brightness setting, the contrast levels are completely different.
I know i've read that the Ion has one of the better screens...just didn't really notice how good it was until i compared it to an 'updated' version. kind of defeats the purpose imo...
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+1 thanks for the reply
you are right both the phones xperia s and xperia ion uses LED-backlit LCD while the xperia t and xperia tl uses TFT capacitive touchscreen
i think thats the reson.(all the phones have 720p display)
Been a long time apple user ..since the original iphone in 2007. had every version of it. Got bored of ios and switched to Galaxy s3 last year and been quite happy so far. Last week i traded the S3 for Sony Xperia ZL..and man..i love this hardware and the version of android..
The sony launcher is by far the best one i've seen compared to the touchwiz and others..I used to have so many launchers and widgets on my S3 whereas i have no launchers and widgets on ZL.. The built in has all the features i need,,
Got the iphone 5S for the wife..but the display on ZL is quite something..camera is great. Battery life is reasonable (compared to my old S3) and the standard android customization is very handy..
Don't think i'll ever go back to ios or other android devices for a while.
I like the Xperia ZL. But this phone has many problems. First it lost the signal. It has some lag. And now overheat. Tomorrow who know? I can affirm that I would like other phone.
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melquisedec said:
I like the Xperia ZL. But this phone has many problems. First it lost the signal. It has some lag. And now overheat. Tomorrow who know? I can affirm that I would like other phone.
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well not all ZL have problems. mine works perfect, for me its the best phone made by SONY, small big screen, nice hardware, cool camera etc.
just w8ting for the 4.3.
i had HTC One, iphone 5, S3, and the ZL its like perfect.
BTW I dont like custom roms so im full stuck on 4.2.2 ,67 , as far as i know most of the people that face does issues are using roms...and i keep sayin Custom roms SUCK, just stick with official and dont screw your phone.:good:
danieldp1990 said:
well not all ZL have problems. mine works perfect, for me its the best phone made by SONY, small big screen, nice hardware, cool camera etc.
just w8ting for the 4.3.
i had HTC One, iphone 5, S3, and the ZL its like perfect.
BTW I dont like custom roms so im full stuck on 4.2.2 ,67 , as far as i know most of the people that face does issues are using roms...and i keep sayin Custom roms SUCK, just stick with official and dont screw your phone.:good:
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I'm on a custom ROM and I'm having exactly 0 issues from the phone itself. Some people just have bad luck.
I am waiting the update 4.3. Preying God mine fixed.
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TheTofu said:
I'm on a custom ROM and I'm having exactly 0 issues from the phone itself. Some people just have bad luck.
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well good to hear that, but almost all problems that people have they all uses custom roms.
danieldp1990 said:
well not all ZL have problems. mine works perfect, for me its the best phone made by SONY, small big screen, nice hardware, cool camera etc.
just w8ting for the 4.3.
i had HTC One, iphone 5, S3, and the ZL its like perfect.
BTW I dont like custom roms so im full stuck on 4.2.2 ,67 , as far as i know most of the people that face does issues are using roms...and i keep sayin Custom roms SUCK, just stick with official and dont screw your phone.:good:
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Well I'm using a custom ROM and I do not face any issues as well so you are wrong when you say that!
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einfachgaer said:
Well I'm using a custom ROM and I do not face any issues as well so you are wrong when you say that!
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well what I say is what I read on the web.
danieldp1990 said:
well not all ZL have problems. mine works perfect, for me its the best phone made by SONY, small big screen, nice hardware, cool camera etc.
just w8ting for the 4.3.
i had HTC One, iphone 5, S3, and the ZL its like perfect.
BTW I dont like custom roms so im full stuck on 4.2.2 ,67 , as far as i know most of the people that face does issues are using roms...and i keep sayin Custom roms SUCK, just stick with official and dont screw your phone.:good:
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i agree - i love the stock rom as well. I'm with bell in canada. My android version says 4.2.2 build number is 10.3.A.0.423
No updates according to update centre..is the latest .67 udpate not available to bell customers?
Generalities tend to be tough to back up.
As to your question about an upgrade - you should be able to install the "stock" generic 67 rom for your phone via flashtool, and have it work properly on Bell as what's important are the radio frequencies the phone supports. (and you "should" be able to flash it without wiping your data...
On latest Stock rom and 0 problems with this wonderful device. It's high end and a pleasure to use it.
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scifan said:
Generalities tend to be tough to back up.
As to your question about an upgrade - you should be able to install the "stock" generic 67 rom for your phone via flashtool, and have it work properly on Bell as what's important are the radio frequencies the phone supports. (and you "should" be able to flash it without wiping your data...
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How do i flash? I haven't done this before..Why isn't the latest build not available via OTA?
vhl71 said:
How do i flash? I haven't done this before..Why isn't the latest build not available via OTA?
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I have no idea why it wouldn't be available via OTA.
As far as how to flash... search under the development forum for the ZL for Flashtool. There's also a thread that shows all of the different "rom" versions... I'd look there as well...
I am also super lucky with my ZL. Latest stock firmware and it is my first Android phone, where I don't feel the need for having root access...
I am debating whether i should return my SP and get a ZL. Normally I don't like five inch phones but the ZL is so compact that it wouldn't bother me. I am having a hell of a time deciding. Good thing I have till the end of January. What do you guys think?
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I am debating whether i should return my SP and get a ZL. Normally I don't like five inch phones but the ZL is so compact that it wouldn't bother me. I am having a hell of a time deciding. Good thing I have till the end of January. What do you guys think?
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Do it. The SP is a nice phone, but the ZL is leagues better in every way. You wont believe how small it really is until you hold it.
Even though my beloved C6503 is away receiving RMA Support.
Leading me to purchase a C5303 as back-up in the meantime.
I can still thoroughly recommend the ZL over the SP.
If you watch a lot of videos, browse the internet heavily, likewise use messaging heavily, then you'll love the extra real estate, and increased sharpness, that comes with the 5", Full HD, ultra compact ZL.
Not to mention the ZL's noticeable increase in both performance, and internal storage.
The advantage of 5" 1080p over 4.6" 720p may read like hype.
But as you'll find out for yourself, once you've tried it you won't go back.
Especially in such compact form, with higher grade, build quality you'd expect in Sony's early 2013 top tier, that is found in the ZL.
Plus you still get a large, but more stylised notification light.
The only cons I find with the ZL is it does generate a lot of heat when worked hard.
More than the SP.
But then that's understandable considering what's under their respective hoods (Z runs hotter still being front/rear glass?!)
So I wouldn't recommend using a case with it.
The other con is the ZL is not as efficient as SP.
This is reflected in their respective Endurance Test ratings at GSM Arena, and sums up nicely my experience with them both.
Finally, I would only recommend buying a used ZL with at least a six month warranty, or preferably brand new with a twelve month warranty.
As I am not alone in my ZL suffering from SOD/Sleep Of Death late last year.
Other than that I eagerly await the return of my C6503 from RMA Support later this month.
To which I'll be gifting my C5303 to my Mum (Love you Mum!)
Look forward to your impression of ZL over the SP should you make the leap.
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Even though my beloved C6503 is away receiving RMA Support.
Leading me to purchase a C5303 as back-up in the meantime.
I can still thoroughly recommend the ZL over the SP.
If you watch a lot of videos, browse the internet heavily, likewise use messaging heavily, then you'll love the extra real estate, and increased sharpness, that comes with the 5", Full HD, ultra compact ZL.
Not to mention the ZL's noticeable increase in both performance, and internal storage.
The advantage of 5" 1080p over 4.6" 720p may read like hype.
But as you'll find out for yourself, once you've tried it you won't go back.
Especially in such compact form, with higher grade, build quality you'd expect in Sony's early 2013 top tier, that is found in the ZL.
Plus you still get a large, but more stylised notification light.
The only cons I find with the ZL is it does generate a lot of heat when worked hard.
More than the SP.
But then that's understandable considering what's under their respective hoods (Z runs hotter still being front/rear glass?!)
So I wouldn't recommend using a case with it.
The other con is the ZL is not as efficient as SP.
This is reflected in their respective Endurance Test ratings at GSM Arena, and sums up nicely my experience with them both.
Finally, I would only recommend buying a used ZL with at least a six month warranty, or preferably brand new with a twelve month warranty.
As I am not alone in my ZL suffering from SOD/Sleep Of Death late last year.
Other than that I eagerly await the return of my C6503 from RMA Support later this month.
To which I'll be gifting my C5303 to my Mum (Love you Mum!)
Look forward to your impression of ZL over the SP should you make the leap.
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I've had the ZL for about a week now and I am pretty impressed with it. The size of the phone considering the screen size is amazing. It is a solid feeling phone and the red one I bought looks great. The battery life isn't too great compared to SP but that is to be expected. I downclocked it a bit so it does better and doesnt get as hot. The screen is miles better than the SP and the extra internal memory is nice. I did like the fact that the SP didn't have the stupid shatterproof sheet on it and it was advertised as gorilla glass. I also wish the IR blaster was on the top so I could hold it like a remote. I would have taken having the charging pins instead of the IR blaster. Still it is a good phone and probably the best designed five inch phone ever. I would have waited and gotten the Z1 compact but it's just too small for me now. 4.6 is perfect but 5 inch is great if the size is that of the ZL.
The vibration on the ZL is really weird compared to the SP. Its very strong, not sure if that is bad or good. The camera is soooo much better though.
Glad to read you are enjoying ZL.
Having sent mine in for RMA Support last month.
And since, been using first C6603, followed by now C5303.
Its highlighted to me just how superior the ZL is to these two more popular and widely available models.
IMHO Sony made a major mistake not to release the ZL in the same markets globally as Z.
As for the ZL's very strong vibration.
Yes, it is far stronger than both Z and SP.
That's been my experience too.
I don't doubt you are also enjoying the ZL's far superior outdoor visibility too.
As the Z, and the SP, displays are really mediocre by comparison when used outdoors in daylight.
I sure do miss ZL's superior loudspeaker performance too.
Particularly when using Navigation incar, or hearing it ring when you are in noisy environments.
So looking forward to the return of my ZL.
And seeing if Sony will release a true successor to the compact, limited market release, ZL.
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Guys I am about to buy this phone very soon. Is flash bleeding still a problem? I am considering this or Z3 compact
amnher said:
Guys I am about to buy this phone very soon. Is flash bleeding still a problem? I am considering this or Z3 compact
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Just don't buy this phone. I don't think the flash bleed problem is related to the time of manufacturing. My phone is 14W10 and the flash bleed is so bad. Some users with older units reported not having the flash bleed problem at all.
I'd say don't waste your money on this phone. Waiting for the Z3 compact would be the wiser choice. Although for me I'd rather staying away from sony phones. Poor camera + removing the ability to move apps to SD without root even on JB + poor customer service really killed sony for me and this will be my last phone from them.
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Just don't buy this phone. I don't think the flash bleed problem is related to the time of manufacturing. My phone is 14W10 and the flash bleed is so bad. Some users with older units reported not having the flash bleed problem at all.
I'd say don't waste your money on this phone. Waiting for the Z3 compact would be the wiser choice. Although for me I'd rather staying away from sony phones. Poor camera + removing the ability to move apps to SD without root even on JB + poor customer service really killed sony for me and this will be my last phone from them.
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Oh thats too bad... I really love the water proofing of z1 compact
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Oh thats too bad... I really love the water proofing of z1 compact
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Why Z1c in particular?? ZR, Z1, Z2 are all waterproof. Samsung galaxy S5 is also waterproof. You're not short of options in this department. If you really like Sony why not get the Z2?
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Why Z1c in particular?? ZR, Z1, Z2 are all waterproof. Samsung galaxy S5 is also waterproof. You're not short of options in this department. If you really like Sony why not get the Z2?
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budget and screen size wise... and I think Z1c is better than ZR in every aspect
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budget and screen size wise... and I think Z1c is better than ZR in every aspect
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In that case I'd wait for the Z3 compact...hopefully all the problems that the Z1c has would be fixed "and much more" in the Z3c
Hello!
This Christmas I'mm gonna buy a new phone for myself. I'm really in love with Sony, and I also don't like more-than-5-inch displays, so the two options I'm considering are this phone (Z1 Compact) or the newer Z3 Compact.
The thing is, looking at specs, the biggest differences between them are a bit larger screen, a larger battery and the newer SD801 (in contrast with the SD800). I believe the camera sensor is the same, as is RAM, connectivity, etc.
I can buy the Z1 Compact from Amazon at 350€, or get it second-hand at 250-300€. However, the Z3 Compact I can get at Amazon for 460€, a bit less if I get it second-hand.
My question is: Is this difference in price worth it? Or would you recommend me to buy the Z1? (I think Sony confirmed that all "Z" family will upgrade to Lollipop, right?)
Go for the Z1C!
In my opinion the difference is minor, but the price is much higer.
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Hello!
This Christmas I'mm gonna buy a new phone for myself. I'm really in love with Sony, and I also don't like more-than-5-inch displays, so the two options I'm considering are this phone (Z1 Compact) or the newer Z3 Compact.
The thing is, looking at specs, the biggest differences between them are a bit larger screen, a larger battery and the newer SD801 (in contrast with the SD800). I believe the camera sensor is the same, as is RAM, connectivity, etc.
I can buy the Z1 Compact from Amazon at 350€, or get it second-hand at 250-300€. However, the Z3 Compact I can get at Amazon for 460€, a bit less if I get it second-hand.
My question is: Is this difference in price worth it? Or would you recommend me to buy the Z1? (I think Sony confirmed that all "Z" family will upgrade to Lollipop, right?)
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I think this is something you only know the answer for, here is a detailed video that explains the differences between the two devices :
Though, if I were you, I'd go for Z3 Compact as a device (even after looking to the price)
but, if I wan't to chose in terms of software, I think I'd go with Z1 Compact
cuz I believe not many users that already have Z1c (like me) would wonna switch to the almost the same Z3c!
which means no devs are gonna be there as well
So as I said, your personal needs control what decision you should make
Regards,
Omar.
Z1c. As previously stated not much difference (bigger display, faster CPU, 4k video) but much higher price.
Best regards,
Coempi
as z1c owner, i would pay the difference for z3c.
the display size and dual speakers win it for me as major improvements in my eyes.
huge downside z3c cant be rooted with locked bootloader, you must unlock BL to root :/
i would go for the z3 compact if i never bought my z1 compact because of the ps4 remote play and daulshock 4 compatibility
If money is not a problem, go for Z3c all the way.
But if you consider the extra money Z3c asks for, then by buying the Z1c you won't feel really bad, the differences are minor in my opinion. Of course a bigger screen in the same body and a bigger battery would be welcome, but I don't think they are important enough to justify the price difference.
Buy the Z3c . It's better than the Z1c, but that does not mean the z1c is bad.
I think the z3c is worth the cost of the upgrade, but as a z1c owner I will not upgrade unless sony changes their policy on unlocking wrt DRM keys, or someone finds an exploit. Root isn't optional for me, but I'm not willing to tank my camera performance to get it, so I'm sticking with my z1c until something comes along in this form factor that is better and also non-destructively root-able.
Z1 compact owner here:
If you already have a Z1c = don't get the Z3c
If you don't already have a Z1c = get the Z3c
Quite simple brah
there is 2 issues with the camera on z1 compact.
1) LED bled, and black marker made it ugly on my white phone.
2) My camera freeze once in a while. And recently, it freeze when i try to take consecutive shots. (First shot ok, 2nd shot freeze)
Get the z3. And z3 has double tap to wake. I doubt ps4 game would look nice on such small screen though.
Thank you! I'm more decided now on buying the Z1C!
Honestly, I don't need the PS4 Remote Play function (don't own one, to begin with). Also, losing the DRM keys and general camera functionality when rooting is a real bummer.
I watched the video Omar posted, very helpful! Also, the Z1C will get 5.0 Lollipop in this coming year, as is all the Xperia Z family, right?
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Thank you! I'm more decided now on buying the Z1C!
Honestly, I don't need the PS4 Remote Play function (don't own one, to begin with). Also, losing the DRM keys and general camera functionality when rooting is a real bummer.
I watched the video Omar posted, very helpful! Also, the Z1C will get 5.0 Lollipop in this coming year, as is all the Xperia Z family, right?
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Yes don't worry Sony has promised to bring official Lolipop to Z1 Compact alongside with the rest of Z family (in next the February or so)
also, Z1 Compact will get official Lolipop support from many AOSP-Based ROMs, as soon as CyanogenMod team do so
As I mentioned no worries about software for Z1C, it should get more custom support than Z3C ever will
Regards,
Omar.
Not a worthy phone to buy for Rs.15,000 more
Me too was confused between z1c and z3c
But after a lot of searching and review,i decided to go for z1c
I could go for z3c if sony priced it less.
The sales man tried to convinced me to buy z3c,then i convinced him
Go for the white version gud luck
The main problem now is z3c needs unlock BL to get root so you will loss warranty and some of Sony features. If you need root or want to backup your TA before unlock BL, Z1c is more recommended.
There are many good stuffs on z3c like better battery life(bcoz of s801), a bit bigger screen, dual front speaker and 4K recording w/ video stabilization(our 4K mod no stabilization), a bit better camera focus and more light weight.
But z1c is really good for its lower price and the looking is better because of metal bumper it looks like more a premium design and I think the LED notification is also better on z1c.
Hello guys, I wanna buy a new smartphone, have a S3 and now I'm tempted to buy the LG G3 with 32GB internal and 3GB RAM. Is a good option for nowadays?
Yes, it's still a good option. However, I would invest in the V10, because it's superior in every way, and will last you longer. The G3's development is dying in terms of stock based ROMs, which in my opinion are the best kind of ROMs.
It is a good choice, but if you're in America, go for the V10. Much better investment.
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Yes, it's still a good option. However, I would invest in the V10, because it's superior in every way, and will last you longer. The G3's development is dying in terms of stock based ROMs, which in my opinion are the best kind of ROMs.
It is a good choice, but if you're in America, go for the V10. Much better investment.
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I'm in Europe, portuguese. And why you say that. Isn't CM13 a good option?
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I'm in Europe, portuguese. And why you say that. Isn't CM13 a good option?
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It is, but the camera is of a lower quality in AOSP or CM based ROMs.
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It is, but the camera is of a lower quality in AOSP or CM based ROMs.
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Ohh okay thank you. It's normal then. But the focus is the same speed?
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Ohh okay thank you. It's normal then. But the focus is the same speed?
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No - ASOP won't have the drivers for the Laser-Autofocus and I guess OIS is out of reach as well - so no. CM/ASOP isn't going to be anywhere near as fast especially not that CM has no Camera 2 API implemented. The only choice would be a good Camera App to get somewhat good pictures as well, but they're still not going near Stock as it would have to rely on Software totally.
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I'd love to get the V10 but I neither do have the money noir do they sell it in Germany. Seems like LG hates Germany nowadays ... (curses)
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No - ASOP won't have the drivers for the Laser-Autofocus and I guess OIS is out of reach as well - so no. CM/ASOP isn't going to be anywhere near as fast especially not that CM has no Camera 2 API implemented. The only choice would be a good Camera App to get somewhat good pictures as well, but they're still not going near Stock as it would have to rely on Software totally.
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I'd love to get the V10 but I neither do have the money noir do they sell it in Germany. Seems like LG hates Germany nowadays ... (curses)
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I think in Portugal we don't have it too. And camera is not the most important thing to me so...
EHK! Just found out it 's going to be sold end of december here in Germany as well on Amazon !!!!
http://www.mobilegeeks.de/artikel/lg-v10/
Should probably release at the same time or close in the rest of Europe!
That taken aside:
The G3 is a phone made for people that are willing to do things like opening the phone and applying a Cooling Mod and take a lot of time into customization and tweaking of Stock roms in my opinion - and you loose to much out if you go the ASOP/CM route with it (in my opinion). It 's good - but it 's not perfect and certainly has it 's drawbacks. If you want to go the CM/ASOP route I'd rather suggest an OPO since that one has more reliable and stable kernels of high quality around like Boeffla or AK-Kernel around (eh he) and has it 's Camera ported for CM as well.
TLDR: In terms of value for the money you invest right now and CM-Support ->
1. OPO/OPO2
2. LG G3
3. LG G4
4. LG V10
That said excluding other good phones like the Nexus devices (can't list them all and don't have experience with them either)
Or perhaps go for an Xperia. Sony has a very friendly attitude towards devs, so you'll find busy development on an Xperia.
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Go for xperia z1 , its basically xperia z2=xperia z3 at very low price
Same cpu, same camera , same performance
Just less ram 2gb and lower quality screen, but still very good
Also xperia z1 is as smooth as z3 or z5 unlike lg g3 which is very laggy and slow, i have xperia z1 and as soon as i started using a friends g3 i could easily notice how slow is navigation through menu, and how aweful is the scrolling speed, looks like 20 fps compared to 60fps on the z1 , a legendary phone that never slows down. Or freezes or hangs up never, always responds in time no matter what you do or install in it.
Only downside of it, is its very low free ram, ,, always arround 300-400 mb(600-700 at best using ram boosters) .(compared to 1.2- 1.5 gb free ram on z2 and Z3)( ps: older xperia z has more free ram, arround the 800mb 900mb) Does make background apps to reload most of time ...
Still better phone than g3 imo. Hope i helped, not many users would tell you this advice
Also dont forget the z1 battery is like twice g3 battery life.
Or you could get z2 , a perfect phone, and has 3 times g3 battery backup ( screen on time) and about twice z1 sot. With my z2 average screen on time using 4g alltime is 7hours ( 5hours xperia z1 and like 3 and half or 4 hours if your lucky on g3
On wifi easily i get 8 to 9 .( this means quick email check, web navigation, some facebook, ) no games.
Gamer4Life said:
Go for xperia z1 , its basically xperia z2=xperia z3 at very low price
Same cpu, same camera , same performance
Just less ram 2gb and lower quality screen, but still very good
Also xperia z1 is as smooth as z3 or z5 unlike lg g3 which is very laggy and slow, i have xperia z1 and as soon as i started using a friends g3 i could easily notice how slow is navigation through menu, and how aweful is the scrolling speed, looks like 20 fps compared to 60fps on the z1 , a legendary phone that never slows down. Or freezes or hangs up never, always responds in time no matter what you do or install in it.
Only downside of it, is its very low free ram, ,, always arround 300-400 mb(600-700 at best using ram boosters) .(compared to 1.2- 1.5 gb free ram on z2 and Z3)( ps: older xperia z has more free ram, arround the 800mb 900mb) Does make background apps to reload most of time ...
Still better phone than g3 imo. Hope i helped, not many users would tell you this advice
Also dont forget the z1 battery is like twice g3 battery life.
Or you could get z2 , a perfect phone, and has 3 times g3 battery backup ( screen on time) and about twice z1 sot. With my z2 average screen on time using 4g alltime is 7hours ( 5hours xperia z1 and like 3 and half or 4 hours if your lucky on g3
On wifi easily i get 8 to 9 .( this means quick email check, web navigation, some facebook, ) no games.
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Ok thanks for the advice bro!
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Got my G3 at the end of May this year and still is my phone. And I can totally recommend it. Can keep up with the best of them. Camera is good too. I'm sure development will boom once we get stock Marshmallow. Here in the Philippines, there's only about a $50 difference between 32GB G3 and the leather 32GB G4. Hope I helped!
Yes, it's a good option, but i don't recommend you to keep the rom stock, you better install an aosp rom.
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I bought my 2nd hand LG G3 D855 , 5 weeks ago.
It is okay for the price (Without warranty).
Don't ever buy G3.
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Don't ever buy G3.
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Why mate?
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nelson1130 said:
Yes, it's a good option, but i don't recommend you to keep the rom stock, you better install an aosp rom.
(Sorry if my english is bad)
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Why you say that bro?
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I bought my lg g3 and is very pleased with it and if you apply thermal paste on it it will stop lag when you scroll an such. For me atleast!
Gamer4Life said:
Go for xperia z1 , its basically xperia z2=xperia z3 at very low price
Same cpu, same camera , same performance
Just less ram 2gb and lower quality screen, but still very good
Also xperia z1 is as smooth as z3 or z5 unlike lg g3 which is very laggy and slow, i have xperia z1 and as soon as i started using a friends g3 i could easily notice how slow is navigation through menu, and how aweful is the scrolling speed, looks like 20 fps compared to 60fps on the z1 , a legendary phone that never slows down. Or freezes or hangs up never, always responds in time no matter what you do or install in it.
Only downside of it, is its very low free ram, ,, always arround 300-400 mb(600-700 at best using ram boosters) .(compared to 1.2- 1.5 gb free ram on z2 and Z3)( ps: older xperia z has more free ram, arround the 800mb 900mb) Does make background apps to reload most of time ...
Still better phone than g3 imo. Hope i helped, not many users would tell you this advice
Also dont forget the z1 battery is like twice g3 battery life.
Or you could get z2 , a perfect phone, and has 3 times g3 battery backup ( screen on time) and about twice z1 sot. With my z2 average screen on time using 4g alltime is 7hours ( 5hours xperia z1 and like 3 and half or 4 hours if your lucky on g3
On wifi easily i get 8 to 9 .( this means quick email check, web navigation, some facebook, ) no games.
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Perhaps your friends model was dodgy? Because mine performed amazingly, better than any Z1 or Z3 for that matter. Also, the G3's camera is far superior to the Z3 and below, because unlike those models, the G3's camera is sharp. You'll notice a fair amount of image noise in a Z3 camera. Can't say anything about the more recent ones, however.
And battery is subjective to a LOT of things. You won't always get 7h SOT or whatever. I did once get 6 odd hours of SOT with ~25% left. But again, it's subjective.
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Yes, it's a good option, but i don't recommend you to keep the rom stock, you better install an aosp rom.
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Only go AOSP if you don't mind losing out on camera quality. Otherwise, stay with stock. And honestly, the camera is the G3's main selling point, if you don't mind so much about camera, go with a HTC or a Z3 or Z2. Not a Z1. Differences between the Z2 and 3 are negligible.
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Perhaps your friends model was dodgy? Because mine performed amazingly, better than any Z1 or Z3 for that matter. Also, the G3's camera is far superior to the Z3 and below, because unlike those models, the G3's camera is sharp. You'll notice a fair amount of image noise in a Z3 camera. Can't say anything about the more recent ones, however.
And battery is subjective to a LOT of things. You won't always get 7h SOT or whatever. I did once get 6 odd hours of SOT with ~25% left. But again, it's subjective.
Only go AOSP if you don't mind losing out on camera quality. Otherwise, stay with stock. And honestly, the camera is the G3's main selling point, if you don't mind so much about camera, go with a HTC or a Z3 or Z2. Not a Z1. Differences between the Z2 and 3 are negligible.
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Being honest, with the prize he have on the store i'll buy it, it's specs are great for his price. 329 euros 32GB and 3GB ram
Edit: 309 euros for the 16Gb with 2GB ram
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